From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Nov  1 09:30:10 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:30:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [HCA-SantaClara] Covered Calif. Enrollment
	Workshop and Health Fair Sat. 11/2, San Jose
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Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 2:11 AM
Subject: [HCA-SantaClara] Covered Calif. Enrollment Workshop and Health Fair Sat. 11/2, San Jose
  
 
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Covered California Enrollment Workshop and Health FairWhat: The five million Californians without health insurance can now enroll in a new program called Covered California. Health insurance coverage will be offered to everyone, even if they have a pre-existing condition or can't afford it. Many low-income and middle class families will qualify for discounted premiums and federal subsidies to help pay for insurance. Assemblymember Bob Wieckowski is hosting a health fair to provide information about the program and help with enrollment. There will also be free and discounted health services provided at the fair by community partners.When:?Saturday, November 2 from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.?
Where:?Cherrywood Elementary School, 2550 Greengate Drive, San Jose
More Information:?Call (510) 440-9030.

    
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Nov  1 09:36:30 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [350 SV Chat] Nov 12, UCB,
	new strats for confronting climate
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Steve Raney <steve_raney at cities21.org>
To: 350-silicon-valley-chat at googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: [350 SV Chat] Nov 12, UCB, new strats for confronting climate
  


Anyone interested in carpooling to this evening UCB event? 350's co-founder one panelist:?

NEW STRATEGIES FOR CONFRONTING THE CLIMATE CRISIS


NOVEMBER 12, 2013, 8:00 pm, Doors open: 6:30 pm?
Wheeler Auditorium, UC Berkeley Campus.
ADMISSION FREE
Tickets required:?http://www.mariosaviolecture.eventbrite.com/?or at the door if available
?
?
with: Michael Brune, Executive Director., SIERRA CLUB;?
Phil Radford, Exec. Dir. GREENPEACE; ?
May Boeve, Exec. Dir. and Co-founder, ?350.org;?
Sharon Lungo, Co-Director, the?RUCKUS SOCIETY;?
and Gopal Dayaneni, MOVEMENT GENERATION/Justice and Ecology Project ?
Also: presentation of the Mario Savio Young Activist Award
Presented annually to honor the memory of Mario Savio (1942-1996), a spokesperson for Berkeley's Free Speech Movement (1964), and the spirit of moral courage and vision which he and countless other activists of his generation exemplified, to promote the ideals and values he struggled to advance throughout his life, and to recognize and encourage young activists striving to build a more humane and just society.
Event contact:?savio at sonic.net

co-sponsored by KPFA

http://www.kpfa.org/events/17th-annual-mario-savio-memorial-lecture-new-strategies-confronting-climate-crisis-november-1


Please message me directly to carpool
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Nov  1 12:57:39 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 12:57:39 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gore and partner and carbon bubble
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FYI,

There may or may not be anything new in this.  I think what
I find interesting about this is that "a former Goldman Sachs
executive" is talking about the financial risk of investing
in fossil fuels.  After all, Goldman Sachs is a major player
in Wall Street.  On the other hand, it was shown that Goldman
Sachs knowingly gave bad investment advice to clients leading
up to the mortgage meltdown.

Anyways, somehow, I am assuming that their statement may have a
little more credibility with the financial community.

So ...

"Gore & Blood: Growing 'Carbon Bubble' Threatens Earth and the Global 
Economy"
"Powerful duo advise individuals and institutions to divest from world's 
dirtiest energy sources and put their money towards saving the planet"

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/01-0

...

Here is a little info about Mr. Blood:
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=1585701&privcapId=32584452

Gerry



From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Nov  1 20:25:17 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Mexico Bans GM Corn YOU HAVE GOT TO READ THIS
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From: shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: Mexico Bans GM Corn
  


>Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 06:27:01 -0700
>From: Geraldo Cienmarcos <gary100dm at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: gary100dm at gmail.com
>
>Subject: Mexico Bans GM Corn
>
>
>Mexico Bans GM Corn in Latest Win Against Monsanto and Big Ag
>
>? - See more at:
>
>http://occupytest.devcloud.acquia-sites.com/article/mexico-bans-gm-corn-latest-win-against-monsanto-and-big-ag
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>personal mail from
>Gary in the valley.
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  4 18:13:30 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:13:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Pass ENDA
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FYI, please ignore the fundraising request after signing. Thanks.

Sincerely,

John Thielking


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To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 6:10 PM
Subject: Pass ENDA
 


Thanks for adding your name!

In 29 states, it?s still legal to be fired for being gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender. It's time for that to change. 

But -- Speaker Boehner affirmed that he will not bring the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to the floor for a vote. Let?s get 100,000 strong pressuring Boehner to end the days where LGBT Americans can be fired just because of who they love:

Forward this email to three friends right now and ask them to sign our petition demanding a vote on ENDA.

ADD YOUR NAME: http://dccc.org/ENDA


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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Nov  4 18:50:51 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:50:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Bay Area Climate Victory Vote - be there or watch
	live
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If anybody wants to ride up with me, let me know. I won't go alone.
Caroline

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From: 350 Bay Area.org <info at 350bayarea.org>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net> 
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 7:00 AM
Subject: Bay Area Climate Victory Vote - be there or watch live
 


NationBuilder  
  
Dear Caroline -- 

Great news! After two years of organizing and a
summer of meetings between activists and members of the Bay Area Air
Quality Management District's (BAAQMD's) Climate Protection Committee,
culminating in negotiations with Committee Chair John Avalos and Air
District executive staff, we're on the verge of a historic vote for
Bay Area Climate Action this Wednesday, November 6.

RSVP
to attend as history is made.

A strong Climate
Action Resolution was passed unanimously by the
BAAQMD Climate Protection Committee on October 23. This will put the
Bay Area on the path to reducing greenhouse gas emissions from 100
million tons per year to about 17.6 million tons. 

The
full Board
will vote on the Resolution this Wednesday, November
6. The Resolution:


Commits the Bay Area to an 80% reduction in greenhouse gas
emissions by 2050, compared to 1990 levels. This must happen worldwide
if we are to have any hope of keeping below 2?C of warming. 

Kicks off the creation of a Regional Climate Action Strategy to
achieve the needed greenhouse gas emissions reductions by 2050.
Directs Air District staff to develop a
near-term work program for climate protection, to be approved in the
first quarter of 2014.
It will be a long and challenging journey to develop and implement the
right Climate Action Plan for the Bay Area, but make no mistake, the
members of the BAAQMD Climate Protection Committee intend the Bay Area
to set a national example, and so do we.

Show
your support. Let's pack the room -RSVP
HERE if you you can come.

GO
HERE for WEBCAST LINK and AGENDAto watch
from your computer or mobile device.

350 Bay
Area's Bay Climate Action Plan (BayCAP) team is leading this campaign
and will stick with it through every phase. However, we also want to
express appreciation to our community partners: 350 Marin, 350 Silicon
Valley, 350 Sonoma, the Sierra Club, Bay Localize, Communities for a
Better Environment, the Bay Area Chapter of Physicians for Social
Responsibility and the SunFlower Alliance.

We are of course
deeply grateful to all the members of the BAAQMD Climate Protection
Committee who attended the meeting and voted for the Resolution, Susan
Adams (Marin County), John Avalos (San Francisco), Teresa Barrett
(Petaluma), John Gioia (Contra Costa County), David Hudson (San
Ramon), Jan Pepper (Los Altos), Mark Ross (Martinez) and Shirlee Zane
(Sonoma County) as well as 2013 BAAQMD Board Chair Ash Kalra (San
Jose), who attended the meeting in support of the Resolution even
though he's not on that Committee. 

Special thanks are due
to Committee Chair Avalos for helping us from the beginning, when we
first approached him at the Forward on Climate Rally in February. 

The draft Resolution included in the Committee's Agenda packet
was missing an element the BayCAP team considered essential, a
commitment to work toward achieving the 2050 goal. In addition key
citations of health impacts due to climate change were missing.
Directors Avalos, Adams, and Zane moved deliberately and effectively
to make sure those points were included in the Resolution. 

Director Gioia added a provision highlighting the fact that reducing
GHGs would have the co-benefit of reducing toxic and PM emissions,
improving the health of disproportionately impacted communities.

Furthermore, these Directors made sure the Committee voted on
October 23, so the full Board could vote on November 6 rather than
having to wait for another cycle of meetings to get the job done. 

Thank you for your initiative and diligence, Directors Adams,
Avalos, Gioia and Zane!

DoRSVP and join us for the vote on November 6 if you can.

Wait! Lots more going on this week!

Please check out 350 Bay Area's Events
Page to see a full listing. Of special interest:

Bay
Area Big Oil Getting Bigger? November 6 @ 7 pm 
Join 350 Bay Area, the Sunflower Alliance, Idle No More, CBE, and
the Ecology Center for a panel discussion with scientists and
community activists about East Bay refineries, their impact on our
health and climate, and what we can do. Idle No More will open up the
event, followed by a panel discussion with: 
	* Diane Bailey, Senior Scientist at NRDC
	* Greg Karras, Senior Scientist at CBE
	* Marilyn Bardet, Community Organizer with Good
Neighbors of Benicia, home to the Valero Refinery
	* Lyana Monterrey, Community Organizer in Pittsburgh,
proposed site of the WesPac Energy Infrastructure Project
350
Bay Area/SF at the San Francisco Green Festival November 9,
10
Come visit our table at the San Francisco
Green Festival. Hours are Saturday 10 to 6, and Sunday 11 to 5, Booth
1020. In addition to hundreds of fabulous exhibitors, there?s an
amazing lineup of speakers who will share their passion and experience
in greening the planet and our lives.


Thank you for
being a part of 350 Bay Area!350
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Nov  4 18:52:30 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:52:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Take action for Syria: humanitarian aid
In-Reply-To: <1649023406.1021228267@wfc.wfcDB.mail.democracyinaction.com>
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: RootsAction Team <info at rootsaction.org>
To: carolineyacoub at att.net 
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Take action for Syria: humanitarian aid
 


  
 


  
Share this action on Facebook 
Share this action on Twitter
 
The recent outpouring of public opposition to firing missiles into Syria was one of the most wonderful upsurges of activism that the world has seen in quite a while.

We see the suffering, most Americans told pollsters, but we want to send food and medicine, not missiles or guns.

Click here to tell the U.N., Congress and President Obama that we haven't forgotten about Syria -- and the people of that country need much more aid now.

We stopped the missiles, but we haven't stopped the guns flowing into Syria from the U.S. government under the label of"military aid."

And we haven't sent humanitarian aid at nearly the levels required.More people are at risk of death and suffering because of this aid failure than were likely to be killed by the missiles.

Doctors Without Borders has raised an alarm, reporting in mid-October that ?Syrian people are now presented with the absurd situation of chemical weapons inspectors driving freely through areas in desperate need, while ambulances, and food and drug supplies organized by humanitarian organizations, are blocked."

And the medical group added: "Influential countries gathered around a table, thrashed out an agreement on chemical weapons, and put it into practice. They have shown that such mobilization can be achieved. So where are the efforts to repeat this success with the burning issue of access for humanitarian aid?"

Click to send this message now: More food and medicine! No more guns and ammunition!

Thousands of Syrian refugees are being accepted by European governments. Since the conflict began two and a half years ago, the United States has granted asylum to fewer than 100 Syrian refugees. The U.S. government has made special provisions to open its doors to asylum seekers from some countries and could do so for Syria.

In late summer, advocates of missile strikes against Syria were claiming all sorts of humanitarian intentions. More quietly, the weapons and other military supplies now being shipped into Syria are touted as having humanitarian purposes. But what about bolstering aid to help the huge number of Syrians in desperate need of food, medicine, clothing and shelter?

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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Tue Nov  5 00:31:06 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 00:31:06 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] More trouble with GPCA LA's party governance
Message-ID: <3af7587a3b51a286b3a2e51d22c84bf7.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>

I think he means the Santa Rosa General Assembly.  Looks like yet more
Feinstein trouble.

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [Green Party of Los Angeles County/Partido Verde de Condado de
Los Angeles] There has been an illega...
From:    "Eugene Hernandez" <notification+p-_jji5_ at facebookmail.com>
Date:    Mon, November 4, 2013 5:31 pm
To:      "Green Party of Los Angeles County/Partido Verde de Condado de
Los Angeles"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Eugene Hernandez posted in Green Party of Los Angeles County/Partido Verde
de Condado de Los Angeles

There has been an illegal on line vote for representative to the NAPA
state convention and the only two legitimate representatives from L.A.
County are Deacon Alexander and Will Yeager.





From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  5 09:04:10 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:04:10 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Bay Area Climate Victory Vote - be there or
 watch live
In-Reply-To: <1383619851.86073.YahooMailNeo@web185304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <5277b6965be70_412c141380855149@worker2.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail>
	<1383619851.86073.YahooMailNeo@web185304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5279250A.70804@earthlink.net>


I'll go.

Gerry


Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> If anybody wants to ride up with me, let me know. I won't go alone.
> Caroline
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* 350 Bay Area.org <info at 350bayarea.org>
> *To:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 4, 2013 7:00 AM
> *Subject:* Bay Area Climate Victory Vote - be there or watch live
>
> NationBuilder
> 350 Bay Area
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=1>
>
> Dear Caroline --
>
> Great news! After /two years of organizing/ and a summer of meetings
> between activists and members of the Bay Area Air Quality Management
> District's (BAAQMD's) Climate Protection Committee, culminating in
> negotiations with Committee Chair John Avalos and Air District executive
> staff, we're on the verge of a historic vote for Bay Area Climate Action
> this Wednesday, November 6.
>
> _*RSVP to attend as history is made.*_
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/baaqmd_board_meeting_11_6?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=2>
>
> A strong _*Climate Action Resolution*_
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/baycap_resolution_for_air_district?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=3>
> was passed unanimously by the BAAQMD Climate Protection Committee on
> October 23. This will put the Bay Area on the path to reducing
> greenhouse gas emissions from 100 million tons per year to about 17.6
> million tons.
>
> *_The full_
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/baaqmd_board_meeting_11_6?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=4>_Board
> will vote on the Resolution this Wednesday, November 6_
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/baaqmd_board_meeting_11_6?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=5>*.
> The Resolution:
>
> Commits the Bay Area to an 80% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by
> 2050, compared to 1990 levels. This must happen worldwide if we are to
> have any hope of keeping below 2?C of warming.
>
> Kicks off the creation of a Regional Climate Action Strategy to achieve
> the needed greenhouse gas emissions reductions by 2050.
> Directs Air District staff to develop a near-term work program for
> climate protection, to be approved in the first quarter of 2014.
> It will be a long and challenging journey to develop and implement the
> right Climate Action Plan for the Bay Area, but make no mistake, the
> members of the BAAQMD Climate Protection Committee intend the Bay Area
> to set a national example, and so do we.
>
> **
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/baaqmd_board_meeting_11_6?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=6>*Show
> your support. Let's pack the **room -***_*RSVP HERE*_
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/baaqmd_board_meeting_11_6?e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=7>
> *if you you can come.*
>
> _*GO HERE for WEBCAST LINK and AGENDA*_
> <http://www.350bayarea.org/r?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.baaqmd.gov%2FThe-Air-District%2FBoard-of-Directors%2FAgendas-and-Minutes.aspx&utm_campaign=baaqmdbaycavote&n=8&e=3c25da7058845f91ef7539cd42abdfb73a5fca7a&utm_source=350bayarea&utm_medium=email>*to
> watch from your computer or mobile device.*
>
> 350 Bay Area's Bay Climate Action Plan (BayCAP) team is leading this
> campaign and will stick with it through every phase. However, we also
> want to express appreciation to our community partners: 350 Marin, 350
> Silicon Valley, 350 Sonoma, the Sierra Club, Bay Localize, Communities
> for a Better Environment, the Bay Area Chapter of Physicians for Social
> Responsibility and the SunFlower Alliance.
>
> We are of course deeply grateful to all the members of the BAAQMD
> Climate Protection Committee who attended the meeting and voted for the
> Resolution, Susan Adams (Marin County), John Avalos (San Francisco),
> Teresa Barrett (Petaluma), John Gioia (Contra Costa County), David
> Hudson (San Ramon), Jan Pepper (Los Altos), Mark Ross (Martinez) and
> Shirlee Zane (Sonoma County) as well as 2013 BAAQMD Board Chair Ash
> Kalra (San Jose), who attended the meeting in support of the Resolution
> even though he's not on that Committee.
>
> Special thanks are due to Committee Chair Avalos for helping us from the
> beginning, when we first approached him at the Forward on Climate Rally
> in February.
>
> The draft Resolution included in the Committee's Agenda packet was
> missing an element the BayCAP team considered essential, a commitment to
> work toward achieving the 2050 goal. In addition key citations of health
> impacts due to climate change were missing. Directors Avalos, Adams, and
> Zane moved deliberately and effectively to make sure those points were
> included in the Resolution.
>
> Director Gioia added a provision highlighting the fact that reducing
> GHGs would have the co-benefit of reducing toxic and PM emissions,
> improving the health of disproportionately impacted communities.
>
> Furthermore, these Directors made sure the Committee voted on October
> 23, so the full Board could vote on November 6 rather than having to
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  5 13:10:51 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:10:51 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CO2 Emissions Report
In-Reply-To: <52795E97.2090305@earthlink.net>
References: <52795E97.2090305@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <52795EDB.7050208@earthlink.net>


FYI,

The PBL Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency
(part of the Dutch government) has produced a report
on CO2 emissions.

http://infographics.pbl.nl/website/globalco2/
http://www.pbl.nl/en/publications/trends-in-global-co2-emissions-2013-report

Below is it's table of contents.  Please note that the
conclusion in part 4 is "signs of a slowdown in the
annual increase in global CO2", NOT a slowdown in
production of CO2".  The only year this century that
did not have a growth in emissions was 2009.  I presume
that was due to the economic downturn as a result of
the mortgage meltdown.

Gerry


================================

Summary 4

1    Introduction 6

2    Results 8
2.1  Slowdown in the historical increase in global CO2 emissions 8
2.2  Different trends in the six largest emitting countries/regions 10
2.3  Comparison between emissions in the various countries	15
2.4  Gas flaring emissions	20
2.5  Shale gas and oil production through hydraulic fracturing and
       oil sands exploitation	21
2.6  Industrial non-combustion sources	25
2.7  Climate change mitigation in the 21st century	26

3	Trends in energy supply and consumption	32
3.1  Introduction 32
3.2  Trends in fossil-fuel consumption and fuel mix	34
3.3  Trends in energy efficiency improvements	34
3.4  Trends in renewable energy sources	36
3.5  Trends in nuclear energy	37
3.6  Carbon capture and storage	39

4	Conclusion: signs of a slowdown in the annual increase in
          global CO2	42

Annex 46
Annex 1 Methodology and data sources over the 2010?2012 period	46

List of abbreviations and definitions	51

References 53

================================



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  5 13:57:16 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:57:16 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Censorship of Zinn's "People's History" backfires
Message-ID: <527969BC.3010509@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"'Howard Zinn Read-In' Celebrates Power of 'Dangerous' Education"
"Former Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels' attempt to censor Zinn's classic 
'A People's History' backfires, sparks ongoing interest in late 
historian's work."

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/05-6

Gerry


From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  5 21:22:19 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 21:22:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Wins and losses (so far) in Washignton State races
	tonight
Message-ID: <1383715339.69583.YahooMailNeo@web122902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Good news:

A $15 minimum wage initiative is winning in an early vote count.


http://mynorthwest.com/174/2188960/Initiative-for-15-wage-winning-early-vote-count

Now for the bad news:?
I-522, the GMO labeling initiative, is trailing in early election results:


http://mynorthwest.com/11/2388142/GMO-label-initiative-I522-trails-in-early-election-results

John Thielking
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  7 16:08:41 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:08:41 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Subsidies & Philippine Storm Now
In-Reply-To: <527C2ADB.5000502@earthlink.net>
References: <527C2ADB.5000502@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <527C2B89.5060403@earthlink.net>


FYI,

===========  Subsidies  ===========
"Global Fail: Govts Pour $500 Billion Into Fossil Fuel Subsidies"
"Governments are 'subsidizing the very activities that are pushing the
world towards dangerous climate change,' states new report"
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/07-8

Several infographics on this page:
http://www.odi.org.uk/subsidies-change-the-game


======  Phillipine Storm NOW  =======
"Philippines Braces for 'One of the Strongest Storms Ever'"
"With winds up to 195 mph Super Typhoon Haiyan 'among the most powerful
storms witnessed anywhere in modern times'"
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/07-10

======================================

Gerry


From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  7 18:34:38 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 18:34:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Justice For Andy Lopez Anyone?
Message-ID: <1383878078.46601.YahooMailNeo@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

In case you haven't yet heard, Andy Lopez, a 13 year old Mexican-American boy, was gunned down by a Sonoma County Sheriff's deputy on October 22, 2013.? The deputy thought that the toy bb gun that Lopez was carrying was a real assault rifle. According to testimony on kpfa.org Flashpoints radio program tonight, the entire incident from the time the Sheriff's deputy stopped his car to shooting the boy and handcuffing him and then returning to the car to report shots fired took 10 seconds (other accounts say that it took 10 seconds from stopping the car to firing the first shot).? In any event, it is difficult to justify this shooting of a young boy, especially since there was an active Air-Soft bb gun sporting movement in the Santa Rosa area that the Sheriff's deputy should have been aware of since he is a self described firearms expert. The mostly passive teenagers in Santa Rosa (think of San Jose teens just waking up in the morning) are now all fired
 up and have been having protests almost every day since October 22. 


There are two possible protests that I'm interested in going to on Saturday, November 9, 2013. One is at 1PM at 24th and Mission in SF. The other is in Santa Rosa from 1PM to 5PM.? The details are viewable by visiting:


http://www.answercoalition.org/national/news/justice-for-andy-lopez-national-day-of-protest.html

Is anyone on this list interested in going to either one of these protests? The one in SF would have the best known parking situation, with the best course of action to park at Daly City BART and take BART to 24th and Mission st.? Thanks.

Sincerely,

John Thielking

Or does anyone know of a protest planned for San Jose?
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  7 20:22:48 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 20:22:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Defend Fired Unionists Who Supported Mumia!
In-Reply-To: <CAAZ7QGgY-1ZVqt4f3OoPZ79UYvc3ovpzyUM8qQY2gsNX3FrGXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAZ7QGgY-1ZVqt4f3OoPZ79UYvc3ovpzyUM8qQY2gsNX3FrGXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1383884568.39386.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

James,

I'm thinking of going to this protest in Oakland at 3PM on Saturday November 9, 2013 right after I attend the Andy Lopez protest at 24th and Mission in SF at 1PM on Saturday November 9, 2013. Do you think you could make it to either one or both of these? Thanks.

Sincerely,

John Thielking
408-580-6027


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Chris Kinder <cskinder44 at gmail.com>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:55 PM
Subject: Defend Fired Unionists Who Supported Mumia!
 




All Out! Defend Fired Unionists Who Supported Mumia!

Hands Off the School Bus Union 5!
An Injury To One Is An Injury To All!

National Day of Solidarity on Saturday, Nov. 9th

The Labor Action Committee To Free Mumia Abu-Jamal urges you to come out to defend union school bus drivers who were fired by a union-busting transnational corporation for legally protesting unfair labor practices in Boston.?

These firings took place on the very day (November 1st) of a scheduled showing of the documentary, "Mumia: Long Distance Revolutionary," which the school bus drivers' union had helped to organize and promote!

A National Day of Solidarity with the five fired (one suspended) drivers, and with all Boston school bus drivers, has been organized for this Saturday, the 9th of November 2013. Protests are being held at offices of Veolia, the corporation responsible for these union-busting attacks.

Protest this Saturday, Nov. 9th:

In Oakland: Come to Veolia's offices at 1720 Broadway, at 3 PM, Saturday
?? ? Organized by Transport Workers Solidarity Committee
?? ? (1720 Broadway is 3 & ? blocks north of 12th St BART)

In Boston: Rally outside Freeport Bus Yard.?
?? ? Gather at: Dorchester Ave. & Hoyt St, Dorchester, at 1 PM Saturday
?? ?(at Dorchester & Hoyt on the 18 bus)

More information and details in the forwarded message below:

Begin forwarded message:

From: Tova Fry <tova.fry at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [Organizing] Director Stephen Vittoria on Boston premiere and School Bus 5
Date: November 6, 2013 4:07:00 PM PST
To: TWSC <organizing at transportworkers.org>
Reply-To: Tova Fry <tkfry at umich.edu>


Two more of the five were fired today, totaling four fired and one suspended! All out Saturday, 11/9, at 3pm at Veolia's 1720 Broadway, Oakland office to support the Boston School Bus 5 National Day of solidarity with the five and all the Boston school bus drivers. See below for one small example of how this union organizes solidarity.

Tova?

Oakland action: https://www.facebook.com/events/418384614951137/?ref_dashboard_filter=calendar

Boston info: web http://bostonschoolbus5.org/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Solidarity-the-Voice-of-United-School-Bus-Union-Workers/300080180003514?directed_target_id=0

----- Forwarded Message -----
"Mumia: Long Distance Revolutionary" Director Stephen Vittoria comments on Boston premiere and School Bus 5

http://www.mumia-themovie.com/blog.html

Boston Strong?
06/11/13 09:59 Filed in: Inside Look

Written by Stephen Vittoria?
(Los Angeles)

Rather than stand behind the dedicated men and women of Steelworkers Local 8751 ? the Boston School Bus Drivers Union ? the Mayor of Boston, along with the notorious transnational union-busting corporation Veolia, helped to orchestrate the demolition of union leadership, further weakening the rights of rank and file members. It was union busting at its worst and it?s become an all-too common practice in America as we watch corporations line up at their gluttonous trough while unions suffer.

In early October when drivers participated in a legal protest of Veolia?s unjust labor practices, Veolia illegally reached out to the Boston cops who were more than happy to forcibly remove the drivers. Veolia then illegally locked the gates to the bus holding lot and refused to allow the drivers back to work. Veolia and their partner in crime, Mayor Thomas Menino, then zeroed in on the five union leaders for termination. (The same Thomas Menino who when asked how he would handle the situation in Detroit said he would blow up the city and start over. Boston strong, eh?)

In a show of solidarity, union workers throughout Boston (and throughout the U.S., Latin America, South America, and elsewhere) have stepped up to support their brothers and sisters as they fight another corrupt machine for their rights.

On Friday, November 1, ?Mumia: Long Distance Revolutionary? was scheduled to screen in Boston. The Boston premiere of the film at Hibernian Hall was organized and sponsored by the Boston School Bus Union and the Women?s Fightback Network. At 10am that morning, the leadership of the union was fired by Veolia.

This was the environment and atmosphere that surrounded the film?s premiere. Some folks may have folded but not these courageous people. Instead of wallowing in the fact that they were under attack, their livelihood in jeopardy, the five leaders ? backed by the solidarity of the rank and file ? used the evening and the remarkable story of Mumia Abu-Jamal as a rallying point. They embraced Mumia?s struggle as their own ? and in fact it is. The fight for justice ? be it legal justice, rights in the workplace, education, healthcare, fair housing, and so forth is all the same struggle against corruption, oppression, and the chains of capitalism.

Late that evening after the Boston premiere, I received an email from Steve Gillis, one of the organizers (and now one of the School Bus Union 5) and he reported that three hundred people packed the hall and celebrated the life and revolutionary times of Mumia. In part, his email reported:

?You should know that your film reached deep into Boston's most oppressed communities last night, and that it did what only truly great film can do, provide a centerpiece and catalyst for new thought and vision about a better world, and how to move forward toward that goal.?

Steve?s note to me meant a great deal. It?s why filmmakers should make documentaries ? that moment when you realize your work touched a nerve and offered some truth, some hope, and some inspiration to others.

Also, our thanks to Steve Gillis, Chuck Turner, Andre Francois, and Monica Moorehead, who all spoke at the event ? their longtime support of Mumia Abu-Jamal and his struggle for freedom inspires me.

This message from: the Labor Action Committee To Free Mumia Abu-Jamal
PO Box 16222 ? Oakland CA 94610 ? 510-763-2347 ? www.laboractionmumia.org
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Nov  8 16:10:12 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:10:12 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] California has highest poverty (by alternate standard)
Message-ID: <527D7D64.6090204@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"California has worst poverty in nation when housing costs are considered"

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_24470868/california-has-worst-poverty-nation-when-housing-costs

"The new numbers show that a lot of people are "falling through the 
cracks," said Allison Pratt, the Alameda County Community Food Bank's 
director of policy and services. They don't qualify for assistance but 
can't make ends meet living in one of the country's most expensive regions."

'"Unemployment is still huge. We've cut housing. We've cut Head Start. 
We've cut nutrition programs," said Ron Haskins, co-director of the 
Brookings Center on Children and Families. "Now it's food stamps. ... 
That'll show up in these numbers next year."'

Gerry


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Nov  9 01:44:44 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 01:44:44 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FOE Energy Report
In-Reply-To: <527E0399.2060203@earthlink.net>
References: <527E0399.2060203@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <527E040C.5070802@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"Good Energy, Bad Energy" from
Friends of the Earth International:

http://www.foei.org/en/good-energy-bad-energy

Gerry


From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Sat Nov  9 17:33:59 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 17:33:59 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Opening for delegate, Santa Rosa General Assembly
Message-ID: <a5b5c56f-2034-400d-a90b-ca2c0f517cdc@email.android.com>

We have openings for one more delegate (preferably female since we are missing gender balance currently) and several alternates to the Santa Rosa General Assembly to take place next weekend. Here's some more info about it. 
http://sonomagreenparty.org/  you'd like to serve in this way, please contact me our one of the other Council members ASAP.

Green is GO!

Drew
RainbeauFriend @ RiseUp . Net
408.520.1652
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From info at movetoamend.org  Sat Nov  9 12:54:53 2013
From: info at movetoamend.org (Move to Amend)
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:54:53 +0000
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Intern with Move to Amend - Nov 25 Deadline
Message-ID: <527ea11d64b2a_6c5f9f9804724aa@worker2.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail>

A MESSAGE FROM THE MOVE TO AMEND CAMPAIGN
The Campaign to End Corporate Personhood and Demand Real Democracy
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We provide interns with tools and expertise required to become effective organizers. Interns work at the national level, learning the ropes of organizational development, communication, field organizing, fundraising, and legal research. Our intern team is integral to the success of Move to Amend!

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Nov 10 00:33:18 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:33:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [350 SV Chat] Weather Channel mini-series on
	Climate Change - "Tipping Points" Saturday evenings
In-Reply-To: <0a5601ceddbd$bfbaf060$3f30d120$@gmail.com>
References: <0a5601ceddbd$bfbaf060$3f30d120$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1384072398.16138.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Brian Haberly <brianhaberly at gmail.com>
To: 350-silicon-valley-chat at googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: [350 SV Chat] Weather Channel mini-series on Climate Change - "Tipping Points" Saturday evenings
  


It?s 6:25 pm Saturday night as I type this email, and I just stumbled on the 4th episode of a brand new mini-series about Climate Change on the Weather Channel called ?Tipping Points?.
?
The series airs new episodes every Saturday from 6-7 pm, and then repeats it at 9-10 pm and again at 12 midnight to 1 am if you want to set your DVR to record it.
?
Somewhat surreal watching this episode, as at the break, the live Weather Channel announcer gave an update on Super Typhoon Haiyan, which has slowed in intensity after racing through the Philippines (death toll still unknown since communications down in much of the country) and is now headed towards Viet Nam.? What better way to underscore the emergency and urgency of enacting meaningful changes globally no!
?
http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/tipping-points/main
Here?s a brief description of the miniseries: 

Together with the assistance of NASA, JAXA and leading Universities from all over the world, Tipping Points aggregates data to be analyzed and provides a clear timeline to change on this planet. Will we be ready?
Hosted by Climate Journalist and adventurer Bernice Notenboom, Tipping Points embraces commentary from leading climate scientists surveying the complexity of the major tipping points effecting our current climate and their impact on changing weather patterns around the globe.
Adventurous and informative, Tipping Points explores the interconnectedness of all the elements that make up our climate system that influence global and local weather patterns. The Earth is in a delicate equilibrium; once one factor reaches its respective tipping point the other factors will also breach stability. As the atmosphere heats up and the chemical makeup of the atmosphere shifts there will be repercussions felt on a global scale. These elements are what Bernice and her team of climate authorities are going to explore is some of the most remote locations on the planet.
From the canopies of The Amazon to the ice sheets of Siberia, these climate specialists will chase answers to behavioral patterns of tipping elements in the climate system affecting our weather systems.
How close to tipping are we? When will these climates tip and what will be the indicators? How will our climate and weather patterns be affected once stability has been ruptured? Will large-scale discontinuities be the biggest cause for climate catastrophes in this century? These are the questions Tipping Points dares to ask, and further answer.
Floods, droughts, extreme monsoons, fires, heat waves and hurricanes will be the indicator of the extent to which the weather can push, and how these life-threatening weather occurrences will effect weather norms on a global scale.
Join the world?s pre-eminent scientist as they go off the grid to explore the dangerous new tipping points making our weather systems more extreme and unpredictable. Discover the elements destabilizing our climate system and how these changes impact weather systems around the world.
Tune in to The Weather Channel's ground breaking docu-series, Tipping Points on October 19 at 9/8 C.
-----------------------
I hope you get a chance to watch some of the episodes and add to your knowledge and awareness of the effects being seen around the world already in 2013.
?
Brian Haberly
?
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Sun Nov 10 22:37:00 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:37:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MESSAGE FROM DEREK TENNANT - SOME QUESTIONAS
	ABOUT XL AND 350.ORG
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My Birthday Gift to You
Posted on November 10, 2013							by derektennant 											
					 
In dominant culture, today is the day you say to me, ?Happy Birthday!? Often this is accompanied by the gift of some trinket made of plastic, purchased with debt, and transported by oil. But if you know anything about me it is likely this: what I want is a culture that turns that paradigm on its head: a culture that thrives through a gift, or sharing, economy; and not one dependent upon oil, debt, genocide, and slavery. I crave a society where the occasion of my celebrating the day of my birth into this physical realm illuminates my desire to give myself to our world, a desire that I manifest by gifting others. Today I honor my desire by presenting you this gift: insight into one of the myriad ways that we are constantly being manipulated.
 Like you, I long for an effective path to transformation, both personal and cultural. I find as I research, however, that even in our resistance and our activism, we are being led down the path chosen by the powerful. Today I will point to just the surface of this issue using the Keystone XL pipeline (KXL) as my example.
 Some commentators have recently opened the discussion about the efficacy of nonprofit organizations. Chief complaints about this structure include the fact that many exist as the philanthropic arm of a capitalist body; in other words, as an entity meant to allow profit makers to appear to make amends for the misery their greed and manipulation cause with every passing day while still turning an ever-growing profit. Another big reason that nonprofits are a mask the hides corporate greed is the typical manner in which they are governed: that is to say, in return for large amounts of funding, for profit entities usually take a seat on the Board of Directors of any entity they fund. This limits the scope or depth of change that the nonprofit will ever manage to achieve, by restricting its actions to those that cannot hope to harm the interests of its masters. There are more, but this is intended to be a short post, and so I move on to my example of KXL.
 It is extremely important to look into the history, the genesis, of a major opponent of the pipeline. If you are unfamiliar with KXL, let me briefly say that it is a pipeline meant to transport Canadian tar sands across the American Midwest to refineries along the Texas Gulf Coast. There this bitumen, a poor relative of the oil we refine for use in our country, will be refined into a product that can be used in crude engines in other countries such as China. Note that there are already hundreds of functioning pipelines in the U.S.; the KXL is hardly noteworthy as it is not the first by far. The northern leg of KXL, extending from Canada halfway across our country, was already complete before the controversy began: the *XL* in its name stands for *eXtension Line* after all. And today, despite the efforts of many nonprofits and even activists who have used active resistance: chaining themselves to heavy equipment, blocking roads, even tree sitting in the path of the bulldozers, the KXL is 95% complete. Most of the public await the President?s decision about allowing the pipe to be used with bated breath. One could ask, ?Would he let it be built, at such large expense, if he did not intend to let it be used?? but we place such *hope* that Obama brings *change* that we blind ourselves to reality: his largest campaign donors stand to make billions from the further exploitation of oil. Why we would he *change* that?
 One of the main nonprofits that have campaigned against KXL is the group 350.org. Its founder and leading spokesperson is very well known, appreciated, and quoted: Bill McKibben. But this group is the red herring, the rat in the pantry, for many reasons. First, what do you know about the funding for this group? Tracing its history, it merged in 2007 with 1Sky, a nonprofit formed by the Clinton Global Initiative. It receives donations from the public, but over 60% of its budget since its inception came from just six grants, whose donors? identity is unverified by the organization itself. Tax returns show that the Rockefeller Foundation supports not only 350.org, but Middlebury College where McKibbon is on staff, with multi-million dollar grants. Second, Mr. McKibbon toured the country in the summer of 2013 trying to garner support to stop KXL. That tour was paid for by a hedge fund in Boston, which stood to gain if its investments in *green* technology will profit if the KXL is stopped. Full disclosure on the part of 350.org? Hardly. Third, as all of the environmental movement?s focus has been on stopping KXL, the companies that stand to profit from exploiting the tar sands have been quietly building up the railroad industry?s ability to transport tar sands as an alternative. They have already constructed loading and unloading facilities, built or purchased thousands of railway cars to move the sand and oil (and more coal, by the way), and ensured that no new regulations limiting their ability to transport tar sands across borders or through you town have been enacted. Note the recent increase in the number and severity of railway accidents involving oil and gas transport; is that a peek into what lies ahead for us? Thus KXL is merely a distraction, meant to keep our attention focused on the right hand while the left hand robs us of our future anyway.
 This post has already grown longer than I like, yet there are many more aspects to this problem than I have mentioned here. I will work on a longer piece, just not on my birthday morning. It is clear to me, and I hope now you have more clarity too, that as long as we work within the parameters of what this dominant culture allows we will never succeed in making effective change. Donating to 350.org, attending rallies that focus on KXL to the exclusion of the myriad ways by which oil itself is the enemy, thinking that signing the online moveon.org petition is all we have to do to effect change; these are all problematic methods and in the final analysis, terribly and fatally insufficient.
 And so my gift to you in honor of this anniversary of my birth: we are being effectively silenced when we think that support for a cause that appears to be a *good* act is in fact just furthering the desires of those who value profit over life. What does this tell us? Truth be told, it says what we know is true in our hearts yet can?t be brought into our conscious awareness without extreme discomfort: we must renounce oil and all its manifestations. If our goal is ending our dependence on oil, then let?s stop using oil. This is a hard truth, both in its severity and its disruptive potential. Yet anything less is *game over*, to paraphrase another well-known activist. And on my birthday, when I wish to be alive to gift you on many more anniversaries to come, this is especially distressing. I suppose, if you are stuck in the old paradigm and wish to give me something on my birthday, I would ask for this: tell me what you are willing to give up in order to reduce your dependence, your thirst, and your need for, oil.
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 11 00:45:08 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 00:45:08 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Letter from Russian Prison
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"Letter from an 'Arctic 30' Protester: Why I'm Not a Hooligan"
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/11/10-3

I case you did not hear about it, the "Arctic 30" were on a
Greenpeace boat protesting Russian drilling in the Arctic.

Gerry


From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Nov 11 02:58:08 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:58:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MESSAGE FROM DEREK TENNANT - SOME QUESTIONAS
	ABOUT XL AND 350.ORG
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He doesn't mention divestment. He doesn't mention 350's work with the Bay Area Air Quality people. He doesn't mention 350's projects all over the world that have nothing to do with KXL. The rally in Richmond? was about the bitumen coming in on railroad cars and being refined in a place where the corrosive nature of tar sands crude is bound to cause another disaster. Bill McKibbon doesn't need to be a saint. He has brought awareness to?and enlisted the participation? of? people worldwide. It would be helpful if the climate change warriors had a charismatic leader who could lead us to a stunning victory over the fossil fuel people. What we DON'T need are people trying to discredit a man and an organization that are giving us something to DO besides wring our hands hopelessly as our planet goes to hell.
Caroline
 

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 From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MESSAGE FROM DEREK TENNANT - SOME QUESTIONAS ABOUT XL AND 350.ORG
  


My Birthday Gift to?You 
Posted on November 10, 2013 by derektennant   
In dominant culture, today is the day you say to me, ?Happy Birthday!? Often this is accompanied by the gift of some trinket made of plastic, purchased with debt, and transported by oil. But if you know anything about me it is likely this: what I want is a culture that turns that paradigm on its head: a culture that thrives through a gift, or sharing, economy; and not one dependent upon oil, debt, genocide, and slavery. I crave a society where the occasion of my celebrating the day of my birth into this physical realm illuminates my desire to give myself to our world, a desire that I manifest by gifting others. Today I honor my desire by presenting you this gift: insight into one of the myriad ways that we are constantly being manipulated.
Like you, I long for an effective path to transformation, both personal and cultural. I find as I research, however, that even in our resistance and our activism, we are being led down the path chosen by the powerful. Today I will point to just the surface of this issue using the Keystone XL pipeline (KXL) as my example.
Some commentators have recently opened the discussion about the efficacy of nonprofit organizations. Chief complaints about this structure include the fact that many exist as the philanthropic arm of a capitalist body; in other words, as an entity meant to allow profit makers to appear to make amends for the misery their greed and manipulation cause with every passing day while still turning an ever-growing profit. Another big reason that nonprofits are a mask the hides corporate greed is the typical manner in which they are governed: that is to say, in return for large amounts of funding, for profit entities usually take a seat on the Board of Directors of any entity they fund. This limits the scope or depth of change that the nonprofit will ever manage to achieve, by restricting its actions to those that cannot hope to harm the interests of its masters. There are more, but this is intended to be a short post, and so I move on to my example of KXL.
It is extremely important to look into the history, the genesis, of a major opponent of the pipeline. If you are unfamiliar with KXL, let me briefly say that it is a pipeline meant to transport Canadian tar sands across the American Midwest to refineries along the Texas Gulf Coast. There this bitumen, a poor relative of the oil we refine for use in our country, will be refined into a product that can be used in crude engines in other countries such as China. Note that there are already hundreds of functioning pipelines in the U.S.; the KXL is hardly noteworthy as it is not the first by far. The northern leg of KXL, extending from Canada halfway across our country, was already complete before the controversy began: the *XL* in its name stands for *eXtension Line* after all. And today, despite the efforts of many nonprofits and even activists who have used active resistance: chaining themselves to heavy equipment, blocking roads, even tree sitting in the
 path of the bulldozers, the KXL is 95% complete. Most of the public await the President?s decision about allowing the pipe to be used with bated breath. One could ask, ?Would he let it be built, at such large expense, if he did not intend to let it be used?? but we place such *hope* that Obama brings *change* that we blind ourselves to reality: his largest campaign donors stand to make billions from the further exploitation of oil. Why we would he *change* that?
One of the main nonprofits that have campaigned against KXL is the group 350.org. Its founder and leading spokesperson is very well known, appreciated, and quoted: Bill McKibben. But this group is the red herring, the rat in the pantry, for many reasons. First, what do you know about the funding for this group? Tracing its history, it merged in 2007 with 1Sky, a nonprofit formed by the Clinton Global Initiative. It receives donations from the public, but over 60% of its budget since its inception came from just six grants, whose donors? identity is unverified by the organization itself. Tax returns show that the Rockefeller Foundation supports not only 350.org, but Middlebury College where McKibbon is on staff, with multi-million dollar grants. Second, Mr. McKibbon toured the country in the summer of 2013 trying to garner support to stop KXL. That tour was paid for by a hedge fund in Boston, which stood to gain if its investments in *green* technology
 will profit if the KXL is stopped. Full disclosure on the part of 350.org? Hardly. Third, as all of the environmental movement?s focus has been on stopping KXL, the companies that stand to profit from exploiting the tar sands have been quietly building up the railroad industry?s ability to transport tar sands as an alternative. They have already constructed loading and unloading facilities, built or purchased thousands of railway cars to move the sand and oil (and more coal, by the way), and ensured that no new regulations limiting their ability to transport tar sands across borders or through you town have been enacted. Note the recent increase in the number and severity of railway accidents involving oil and gas transport; is that a peek into what lies ahead for us? Thus KXL is merely a distraction, meant to keep our attention focused on the right hand while the left hand robs us of our future anyway.
This post has already grown longer than I like, yet there are many more aspects to this problem than I have mentioned here. I will work on a longer piece, just not on my birthday morning. It is clear to me, and I hope now you have more clarity too, that as long as we work within the parameters of what this dominant culture allows we will never succeed in making effective change. Donating to 350.org, attending rallies that focus on KXL to the exclusion of the myriad ways by which oil itself is the enemy, thinking that signing the online moveon.org petition is all we have to do to effect change; these are all problematic methods and in the final analysis, terribly and fatally insufficient.
And so my gift to you in honor of this anniversary of my birth: we are being effectively silenced when we think that support for a cause that appears to be a *good* act is in fact just furthering the desires of those who value profit over life. What does this tell us? Truth be told, it says what we know is true in our hearts yet can?t be brought into our conscious awareness without extreme discomfort: we must renounce oil and all its manifestations. If our goal is ending our dependence on oil, then let?s stop using oil. This is a hard truth, both in its severity and its disruptive potential. Yet anything less is *game over*, to paraphrase another well-known activist. And on my birthday, when I wish to be alive to gift you on many more anniversaries to come, this is especially distressing. I suppose, if you are stuck in the old paradigm and wish to give me something on my birthday, I would ask for this: tell me what you are willing to give up in order
 to reduce your dependence, your thirst, and your need for, oil.  
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Mon Nov 11 08:26:01 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:26:01 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Rally Monday to call on Stanford to Divest from Fossil
	Fuels
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Subject: Fw: [transitionpaloalto] Fwd: Join Us: Rally this Monday to call
on Stanford to Divest from Fossil Fuels
From:    "Derek Tennant"
Date:    Mon, November 11, 2013 7:35 am
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 Sorry for the late notice...

Derek


www.derekjoetennant.net

Each day the first day.
Each day a life.
Each morning we must hold out the chalice of our being
to receive, to carry, and give back.
It must be held out empty?
for the past must only be reflected
in its polish, its shape, its capacity.


Dag Hammarskj?ld, 1956?

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Vanessa Warheit <vwarheit at me.com>
To: transitionpaloalto at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: [transitionpaloalto] Fwd: Join Us: Rally this Monday to call on
Stanford to Divest from Fossil Fuels

?
Greetings,

Elliot and I will be at this event on Monday at 12:30 on Stanford campus.
Please join us in supporting these awesome Stanford students who are
fighting for their future! For anyone concerned about climate change, or
the economic carbon bubble, this is a big opportunity to make a difference
and get real traction for the divestment movement.

Best,

Vanessa

Forgive the brevity - sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:


From: Sophie Harrison via Fossil Free <divest at gofossilfree.org>
>Date: November 8, 2013 at 2:06:22 PM PST
>To: vanessaw at stanfordalumni.org
>Subject: Join Us: Rally this Monday to call on Stanford to Divest from
Fossil Fuels
>
>
Dear friends,
>Almost exactly one year ago, a movement was launched on the Stanford
campus calling for our school to divest from fossil fuels and lead the
fight against climate change. The devastating impacts of the climate
crisis on peoples? lives around the world are increasingly clear, but our
university - a ?leader is sustainability? - is continuing to invest in
the very fuels causing this destruction.
>Yet after months of growing pressure from the Stanford community, we have
reached a pivotal moment in our campaign. Next week, Fossil Free Stanford
is having our first meeting with Stanford?s full Advisory Panel on
Investment Responsibility and Licensing (APIR-L), the body tasked with
ensuring ethical management of Stanford?s endowment. It?s is an
incredible opportunity for us to make all the right arguments, but we
also know that arguments alone will never win this fight for us.
>That?s where you come in: we need your help to show just how much support
there is for fossil fuel divestment from the Stanford community.?The
APIR-L has told us that Stanford only divests when there is truly
widespread support for the action - so we need to show them just how
powerful that support is. This Monday, we are having a rally to support
the APIR-L taking moral leadership on this issue, and we need as many
people out as possible.
>Come join us this Monday, November 11th, at 12:30 in White Plaza for our
rally.?Please bring your friends. This is our biggest moment yet, and we
need your help to make it a success.
>We?ve got so much work left to do, but this is an incredibly important
step. Hope to see you on Monday, and looking forward to continuing to
fight for a more just and sustainable future together!
>Onwards,
>The Fossil Free Stanford team?
>--
>Not on campus, or can't attend? You can still help make next week a
success by?inviting your friends to our rally, or sharing our story
on?facebook?or?twitter. Please share?our petition?with all your networks
- the more new supporters before next week?s meeting, the better!
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Mon Nov 11 09:37:50 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:37:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MESSAGE FROM DEREK TENNANT - SOME QUESTIONAS
 ABOUT XL AND 350.ORG
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The reason I sent this out is so that we become more aware of who we are working with. There are no "pure" organizations out there, and we need to be aware of how the organizations we join are funded, and how people with ulterior motives worm their way into all our activities and organizations.

This post is not asking us to avoid 350.org or not participate in it. It is asking us to do so with our eyes open. Anyone who knows Derek understands that he is not advocating for us to do nothing. If you reread the post, he is calling on us to do more.

As Jesus said, we need to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.

Finally, more than almost anything I believe what we need now is NOT a charismatic leader for the movement. Eugene Debs once said the last thing we need is a Moses to lead us into the promised land - because anyone who could lead us in could turn around and lead us right back out. As the saying goes, WE are the leaders we have been looking for.


Sandy


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To: perrysandy <perrysandy at aol.com>; sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 2:58 am
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MESSAGE FROM DEREK TENNANT - SOME QUESTIONAS ABOUT XL AND 350.ORG



He doesn't mention divestment. He doesn't mention 350's work with the Bay Area Air Quality people. He doesn't mention 350's projects all over the world that have nothing to do with KXL. The rally in Richmond  was about the bitumen coming in on railroad cars and being refined in a place where the corrosive nature of tar sands crude is bound to cause another disaster. Bill McKibbon doesn't need to be a saint. He has brought awareness to and enlisted the participation  of  people worldwide. It would be helpful if the climate change warriors had a charismatic leader who could lead us to a stunning victory over the fossil fuel people. What we DON'T need are people trying to discredit a man and an organization that are giving us something to DO besides wring our hands hopelessly as our planet goes to hell.
Caroline


  
 
 
 
   From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
 To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:37 PM
 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MESSAGE FROM DEREK TENNANT - SOME QUESTIONAS ABOUT XL AND 350.ORG
  
 


My Birthday Gift to You
Posted on November 10, 2013							by derektennant 											
					 
In dominant culture, today is the day you say to me, ?Happy Birthday!? Often this is accompanied by the gift of some trinket made of plastic, purchased with debt, and transported by oil. But if you know anything about me it is likely this: what I want is a culture that turns that paradigm on its head: a culture that thrives through a gift, or sharing, economy; and not one dependent upon oil, debt, genocide, and slavery. I crave a society where the occasion of my celebrating the day of my birth into this physical realm illuminates my desire to give myself to our world, a desire that I manifest by gifting others. Today I honor my desire by presenting you this gift: insight into one of the myriad ways that we are constantly being manipulated.
 Like you, I long for an effective path to transformation, both personal and cultural. I find as I research, however, that even in our resistance and our activism, we are being led down the path chosen by the powerful. Today I will point to just the surface of this issue using the Keystone XL pipeline (KXL) as my example.
 Some commentators have recently opened the discussion about the efficacy of nonprofit organizations. Chief complaints about this structure include the fact that many exist as the philanthropic arm of a capitalist body; in other words, as an entity meant to allow profit makers to appear to make amends for the misery their greed and manipulation cause with every passing day while still turning an ever-growing profit. Another big reason that nonprofits are a mask the hides corporate greed is the typical manner in which they are governed: that is to say, in return for large amounts of funding, for profit entities usually take a seat on the Board of Directors of any entity they fund. This limits the scope or depth of change that the nonprofit will ever manage to achieve, by restricting its actions to those that cannot hope to harm the interests of its masters. There are more, but this is intended to be a short post, and so I move on to my example of KXL.
 It is extremely important to look into the history, the genesis, of a major opponent of the pipeline. If you are unfamiliar with KXL, let me briefly say that it is a pipeline meant to transport Canadian tar sands across the American Midwest to refineries along the Texas Gulf Coast. There this bitumen, a poor relative of the oil we refine for use in our country, will be refined into a product that can be used in crude engines in other countries such as China. Note that there are already hundreds of functioning pipelines in the U.S.; the KXL is hardly noteworthy as it is not the first by far. The northern leg of KXL, extending from Canada halfway across our country, was already complete before the controversy began: the *XL* in its name stands for *eXtension Line* after all. And today, despite the efforts of many nonprofits and even activists who have used active resistance: chaining themselves to heavy equipment, blocking roads, even tree sitting in the path of the bulldozers, the KXL is 95% complete. Most of the public await the President?s decision about allowing the pipe to be used with bated breath. One could ask, ?Would he let it be built, at such large expense, if he did not intend to let it be used?? but we place such *hope* that Obama brings *change* that we blind ourselves to reality: his largest campaign donors stand to make billions from the further exploitation of oil. Why we would he *change* that?
 One of the main nonprofits that have campaigned against KXL is the group 350.org. Its founder and leading spokesperson is very well known, appreciated, and quoted: Bill McKibben. But this group is the red herring, the rat in the pantry, for many reasons. First, what do you know about the funding for this group? Tracing its history, it merged in 2007 with 1Sky, a nonprofit formed by the Clinton Global Initiative. It receives donations from the public, but over 60% of its budget since its inception came from just six grants, whose donors? identity is unverified by the organization itself. Tax returns show that the Rockefeller Foundation supports not only 350.org, but Middlebury College where McKibbon is on staff, with multi-million dollar grants. Second, Mr. McKibbon toured the country in the summer of 2013 trying to garner support to stop KXL. That tour was paid for by a hedge fund in Boston, which stood to gain if its investments in *green* technology will profit if the KXL is stopped. Full disclosure on the part of 350.org? Hardly. Third, as all of the environmental movement?s focus has been on stopping KXL, the companies that stand to profit from exploiting the tar sands have been quietly building up the railroad industry?s ability to transport tar sands as an alternative. They have already constructed loading and unloading facilities, built or purchased thousands of railway cars to move the sand and oil (and more coal, by the way), and ensured that no new regulations limiting their ability to transport tar sands across borders or through you town have been enacted. Note the recent increase in the number and severity of railway accidents involving oil and gas transport; is that a peek into what lies ahead for us? Thus KXL is merely a distraction, meant to keep our attention focused on the right hand while the left hand robs us of our future anyway.
 This post has already grown longer than I like, yet there are many more aspects to this problem than I have mentioned here. I will work on a longer piece, just not on my birthday morning. It is clear to me, and I hope now you have more clarity too, that as long as we work within the parameters of what this dominant culture allows we will never succeed in making effective change. Donating to 350.org, attending rallies that focus on KXL to the exclusion of the myriad ways by which oil itself is the enemy, thinking that signing the online moveon.org petition is all we have to do to effect change; these are all problematic methods and in the final analysis, terribly and fatally insufficient.
 And so my gift to you in honor of this anniversary of my birth: we are being effectively silenced when we think that support for a cause that appears to be a *good* act is in fact just furthering the desires of those who value profit over life. What does this tell us? Truth be told, it says what we know is true in our hearts yet can?t be brought into our conscious awareness without extreme discomfort: we must renounce oil and all its manifestations. If our goal is ending our dependence on oil, then let?s stop using oil. This is a hard truth, both in its severity and its disruptive potential. Yet anything less is *game over*, to paraphrase another well-known activist. And on my birthday, when I wish to be alive to gift you on many more anniversaries to come, this is especially distressing. I suppose, if you are stuck in the old paradigm and wish to give me something on my birthday, I would ask for this: tell me what you are willing to give up in order to reduce your dependence, your thirst, and your need for, oil.


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 11 10:04:54 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:04:54 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
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I was inclined to think so until I recognized that they were not even 
smart enough to put wheels and a collapsible handle on their luggage--why should they be when Red Caps did all that for them?  Of course 
my  disillusionment with the Greatest doesn't change my evaluation of 
the Shittiest, my deGeneration, the one that climbed with Martin 
Luther King out of the abyss to peer from the ridgetop, and then steppedback from the brink of the Promised Land to settle for cocaine and 
luxury SUVs and McMansions instead of making the dream true.
We did succeed in preventing the war against Nicaragua, and probably 
we aided the liberation of South America such that US-backed torturers 
can now be prosecuted in Chile and Argentina, and victims of US -backed 
torturers could become presidents in Chile (Bachelet), Uruguay (Mujica) 
and Brazil (da Silva and Rouseff).   But Hollywood wars in Grenada and 
Panama and Kuwait enable the propagandists to claim we accomplished 
nothing, and that claim enabled the current crop of corrupt wars that 
continue today in Bush's fourth term.

Here's Professor Francis Boyle's poetic rant:


The Greatest Generation?
Oh really?
If they were so great
Then why did they send
Their Sons so willingly
Off to die

In Vietnam
A war  they started
While we suffered from
 
58,000 young men
Of my generation
Were murdered

By The Greatest Generation
Hundreds of Thousands
Of our Lives were destroyed
Plus
 3 million genocided Vietnamese
Not that ?gooks? mattered to The Greatest Generation
Then  neither did we their Sons

 
Why  didn?t The Greatest Generation
Rise up as One
And tell the American Empire
That you will not have our Sons
 
Over our dead bodies!
Hell no!
They will not go!
 
Why did The Greatest Generation
Not fight for US their Sons

Against the American Empire
As they did against the German
 and  Japanese Empires
We the Sons of the Greatest Generation were not worth it
 
They said they were liberating Peoples in Foreign Lands
Then why did The Greatest Generation send   their Sons
To fight and die
In that God-forsaken Land?
And to murder millions living in their own
Land?
 
 
Was this some blood-sport
we had to play
With them as  pony riders
and US  as  buzkashi goat carcasses
 
Was it  reverse Freudian Oedipal Complex
Them killing us off
before we got to  them
And took their place
 
Were we  blood-sacrifice to Moloch
With them as  Priests
And we as  sacrificial lambs
 
Were they our   Abrahams
Actually murdering  US  their  Isaacs
In  a Holocaust
To their  Genocidal Yahweh
 
Hard to say
What was going on
In the Minds of The Greatest Generation
If anything at all
Mindless Patriotism

The last refuge of them Scoundrels!
 
They knew all about War
then sent their Sons marching off
 Into the Valley of Death
Charge of the Light Brigade
 
The result was predictable

A Decimated Generation
A Shattered Generation
MY GENERATION!
BUT WE ENDED THEIR DAMN WAR!
 
The Greatest Generation?
Hell no!
A Pathetic Generation!
 
May they  ever be  tormented
By Their Own  Son?s  Souls
 
 
 
Professor Francis A. Boyle 

 
 
Francis A. Boyle
Law Building
504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820 USA
 		 	   		  
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 11 10:41:21 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:41:21 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Monday 7:30PM Ceasefire: Voices of Veterans for
 Peace--Stanford tonight!
In-Reply-To: <866e6102.00001930.00000015@Geoffhp.stanford.edu>
References: <866e6102.00001930.00000015@Geoffhp.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W326F7D4A0C2A38B7C57BE39EFF0@phx.gbl>


   Ceasefire: Voices of Veterans for PeaceMonday, November 11th, 7:30PMBuilding 200 (History Corner--near Hoover Tower), Room 203 (2d Floor)

Stanford Says No To War will host Emily Yates, singer-songwriter
 and member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, and Paul Chappell in a 
panel discussion on November 11 at 7:30pm.

Paul Chappell Chappell graduated from West Point in 2002, was deployed 
to Iraq, and left active duty as a Captain in 2009. He is the author 
of seven books about waging peace, ending war, the art of living, and 
what it means to be human, and serves as the Peace Leadership Director 
for the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation. He lectures nationally and 
internationally on peace leadership.
 

Event put on by Stanford Says No to War and cosponsored by:Amnesty International
International Socialist Organization
Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztl?n
Muslim Student Awareness Network
Peninsula Peace and Justice Center
Progressive Christians @ Stanford
Stanford Students for Queer Liberation  
 		 	   		  
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Mon Nov 11 17:44:30 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:44:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
In-Reply-To: <BAY177-W33786323AB8EDFEFA52DD19EFF0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY177-W33786323AB8EDFEFA52DD19EFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8D0AD5FDD1E39F6-EC0-3FCDE@webmail-m278.sysops.aol.com>


I think it is wrong and actually divisive for generations to point the finger at each other and cast blame. The blame lies with the corporate capitalist system, not with the American people who have been misled by politicians, the corporate media, and our corporate-controlled education system.  The "greatest generation" WAS great - how many of us would leave our families and communities for four or five years and risk our lives to defend what they understood was democracy and freedom?

The greatest generation was ruined by McCarthyism pure and simple. Political debate in America, which thrived from the late 19th century (and earlier) up through the early 1940s, was effectively ended. Communists, socialists, and their "fellow-travelers" were hounded out of Hollywood, the print media, radio, and every available means of communication, not to mention unions, community organizations, cultural groups, and even social clubs. When the left was shut out of the debate - as surely as Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala were shut out of the presidential debates - no wonder the result was war and "mindless patriotism".

We still suffer from McCarthyism today, where millions of people continue to believe communism is a "criminal conspiracy" as Nixon called it, rather than a viable and idealistic alternative to our broken economy. It is up to us to not be afraid to put forward radical solutions to society's problems. I joined the Greens because they are not afraid to be different - as they say, the color of courage is green. 

I think conditions today are actually more favorable than ever for proposing a new economic paradigm. For most people in the greatest generation, capitalism actually worked (see "Capitalism - A Love Story"). Now it is broken, failing to provide a living for millions and failing to protect the environment. It is time for people like us to step forward and change the world!


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 10:05 am
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?



I was inclined to think so until I recognized that they were not even 

smart enough to put wheels and a collapsible handle on their luggage
--why should they be when Red Caps did all that for them?  Of course 

my  disillusionment with the Greatest doesn't change my evaluation of 

the Shittiest, my deGeneration, the one that climbed with Martin 

Luther King out of the abyss to peer from the ridgetop, and then stepped
back from the brink of the Promised Land to settle for cocaine and 

luxury SUVs and McMansions instead of making the dream true.


We did succeed in preventing the war against Nicaragua, and probably 

we aided the liberation of South America such that US-backed torturers 

can now be prosecuted in Chile and Argentina, and victims of US -backed 

torturers could become presidents in Chile (Bachelet), Uruguay (Mujica) 

and Brazil (da Silva and Rouseff).   But Hollywood wars in Grenada and 

Panama and Kuwait enable the propagandists to claim we accomplished 

nothing, and that claim enabled the current crop of corrupt wars that 

continue today in Bush's fourth term.




Here's Professor Francis Boyle's poetic rant:




The Greatest Generation?
Oh really?
If they were so great
Then why did they send
Their Sons so willingly
Off to die
In Vietnam
A war  they started
While we suffered from
 
58,000 young men
Of my generation
Were murdered
By The Greatest Generation
Hundreds of Thousands
Of our Lives were destroyed
Plus 3 million genocided Vietnamese
Not that ?gooks? mattered to The Greatest Generation
Then  neither did we their Sons
 
Why  didn?t The Greatest Generation
Rise up as One
And tell the American Empire
That you will not have our Sons
 
Over our dead bodies!
Hell no!
They will not go!
 
Why did The Greatest Generation
Not fight for US their Sons
Against the American Empire
As they did against the German and  Japanese Empires
We the Sons of the Greatest Generation were not worth it
 
They said they were liberating Peoples in Foreign Lands
Then why did The Greatest Generation send   their Sons
To fight and die
In that God-forsaken Land?
And to murder millions living in their ownLand?
 
 
Was this some blood-sport
we had to play
With them as  pony riders
and US  as  buzkashi goat carcasses
 
Was it  reverse Freudian Oedipal Complex
Them killing us off
before we got to  them
And took their place
 
Were we  blood-sacrifice to Moloch
With them as  Priests
And we as  sacrificial lambs
 
Were they our   Abrahams
Actually murdering  US  their  Isaacs
In  a Holocaust
To their  Genocidal Yahweh
 
Hard to say
What was going on
In the Minds of The Greatest Generation
If anything at all
Mindless Patriotism
The last refuge of them Scoundrels!
 
They knew all about War
then sent their Sons marching off
 Into the Valley of Death
Charge of the Light Brigade
 
The result was predictable
A Decimated Generation
A Shattered Generation
MY GENERATION!
BUT WE ENDED THEIR DAMN WAR!
 
The Greatest Generation?
Hell no!
A Pathetic Generation!
 
May they  ever be  tormented
By Their Own  Son?s  Souls
 
 
 
Professor Francis A. Boyle 

 
 
Francis A. Boyle
Law Building
504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820 USA
 		 	   		  


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 11 18:48:32 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:48:32 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 3/4 support increase in minimum wage, says Gallup
Message-ID: <BAY177-W51CAA266EF31153D067D4E9EFE0@phx.gbl>

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165794/americans-raising-minimum-wage.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Politics


Current minimum wage is $7.25

Chart says the 1968 minimum wage of $1.60 (I remember washing dishes for $1.65) is worth $10.77 today.  




 		 	   		  
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Mon Nov 11 19:21:43 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:21:43 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on Veterans Day
In-Reply-To: <E47B196F-E541-4CE5-A5FE-15FEE7DB3443@extragalactic.net>
References: <E47B196F-E541-4CE5-A5FE-15FEE7DB3443@extragalactic.net>
Message-ID: <69795ce6-a7ee-4a8a-a5f7-3f40f4f48b6e@email.android.com>




-------- Original Message --------
From: Gloria Purcell <gloria at extragalactic.net>
Sent: Mon Nov 11 17:44:54 PST 2013
To: GPCA member general discussion <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>
Subject: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on Veterans Day

Nah, too much clarity and transparency....you don't seem to appreciate  
the benefits of byzantine bureaucracy coupled with a complete lack of  
morality.  Brian, Brian....
Gloria
(Sounds great; how to achieve it???!!!)
On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Brian wrote:

> Let's break up the Department of Defense into two separate agencies.
>
> One will keep the name of the Department of Defense, and will be  
> restricted to defending the borders of the USA.
> Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, USAF (ret.) claimed that this mission could  
> be fulfilled for just 20% of the budget consumed
> by the DoD today.
>
> The second we'll call the Department of Global Domination, and this  
> one will be responsible for maintaining the 700
> military bases around the world, flying the drone strikes that kill   
> farmers in their fields and anyone else in the vicinity,
> funding offensive weapons like the new $15 billion aircraft carrier,  
> and generally creating ill will around the world.
>
> Currently enlisted personnel and new recruits can choose which  
> agency they wish to join.  Those who  wish to
> participate in the honorable profession of national defense could do  
> so.   Those who yearn for adventure and the
> bragging rights from committing crimes around the world can do so as  
> long as the political will for funding them
> continues--with the caveat that the USA will not shield them from  
> international criminal liability for their crimes.
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> gpca-forum mailing list
> gpca-forum at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 11 19:23:26 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:23:26 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Letter from Russian Prison
In-Reply-To: <52809914.7000405@earthlink.net>
References: <52809914.7000405@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <52819F2E.3020102@earthlink.net>


Today Dana and I had a tour of the new Rainbow Warrior at
Pier 15 in San Francisco.  The tour guide said that the
piracy charge has NOT been dropped, that they are still
facing up to 22 years in prison.

Note: I usually think of whaling as the primary concern
of Greenpeace.  In the tour I saw no mention of whales,
but "climate chaos" was prominent.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/rainbow-warrior-2013-ship-tour/


Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> "Letter from an 'Arctic 30' Protester: Why I'm Not a Hooligan"
> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/11/10-3
>
> I case you did not hear about it, the "Arctic 30" were on a
> Greenpeace boat protesting Russian drilling in the Arctic.
>
> Gerry
> _______________________________________________
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From chrisbvail at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 11 19:53:25 2013
From: chrisbvail at yahoo.com (Kris)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:53:25 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on
 Veterans Day
Message-ID: <5dcecgwy3aiafvmdpxf2w2ao.1384228405709@email.android.com>

We already have the Coast Guard and the National Guard as separate services.  It hasn't made much difference.  And CIC is a crook?  Been there, done that.

Drew <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>From: Gloria Purcell <gloria at extragalactic.net>
>Sent: Mon Nov 11 17:44:54 PST 2013
>To: GPCA member general discussion <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>
>Subject: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on Veterans Day
>
>Nah, too much clarity and transparency....you don't seem to appreciate  
>the benefits of byzantine bureaucracy coupled with a complete lack of  
>morality.  Brian, Brian....
>Gloria
>(Sounds great; how to achieve it???!!!)
>On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Brian wrote:
>
>> Let's break up the Department of Defense into two separate agencies.
>>
>> One will keep the name of the Department of Defense, and will be  
>> restricted to defending the borders of the USA.
>> Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, USAF (ret.) claimed that this mission could  
>> be fulfilled for just 20% of the budget consumed
>> by the DoD today.
>>
>> The second we'll call the Department of Global Domination, and this  
>> one will be responsible for maintaining the 700
>> military bases around the world, flying the drone strikes that kill   
>> farmers in their fields and anyone else in the vicinity,
>> funding offensive weapons like the new $15 billion aircraft carrier,  
>> and generally creating ill will around the world.
>>
>> Currently enlisted personnel and new recruits can choose which  
>> agency they wish to join.  Those who  wish to
>> participate in the honorable profession of national defense could do  
>> so.   Those who yearn for adventure and the
>> bragging rights from committing crimes around the world can do so as  
>> long as the political will for funding them
>> continues--with the caveat that the USA will not shield them from  
>> international criminal liability for their crimes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpca-forum mailing list
>> gpca-forum at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum
>
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Nov 11 20:02:42 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:02:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on
	Veterans Day
In-Reply-To: <69795ce6-a7ee-4a8a-a5f7-3f40f4f48b6e@email.android.com>
References: <E47B196F-E541-4CE5-A5FE-15FEE7DB3443@extragalactic.net>
	<69795ce6-a7ee-4a8a-a5f7-3f40f4f48b6e@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1384228962.80107.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sounds like a plan.
 

________________________________
 From: Drew <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net>
To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:21 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on Veterans Day
  






________________________________
 From: Gloria Purcell <gloria at extragalactic.net>
Sent: Mon Nov 11 17:44:54 PST 2013
To: GPCA member general discussion <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>
Subject: Re: [gpca-forum] A Modest Proposal on Veterans Day
 

Nah, too much clarity and transparency....you don't seem to appreciate 
the benefits of byzantine bureaucracy coupled with a complete lack of 
morality.  Brian, Brian....
Gloria
(Sounds great; how to achieve it???!!!)
On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Brian wrote:


Let's break up the Department of Defense into two separate agencies.
>
>One will keep the name of the Department of Defense, and will be 
>restricted to defending the borders of the USA.
>Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, USAF (ret.) claimed that this mission could 
>be fulfilled for just 20% of the budget consumed
>by the DoD today.
>
>The second we'll call the Department of Global Domination, and this 
>one will be responsible for maintaining the 700
>military bases around the world, flying the drone strikes that 
 kill 
>farmers in their fields and anyone else in the vicinity,
>funding offensive weapons like the new $15 billion aircraft carrier, 
>and generally creating ill will around the world.
>
>Currently enlisted personnel and new recruits can choose which 
>agency they wish to join.  Those who  wish to
>participate in the honorable profession of national defense could do 
>so.   Those who yearn for adventure and the
>bragging rights from committing crimes around the world can do so as 
>long as the political will for funding them
>continues--with the caveat that the USA will not shield them from 
>international criminal liability for their crimes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>
>gpca-forum mailing list
>gpca-forum at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum

________________________________

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Tue Nov 12 10:38:33 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:38:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] More from Derek
Message-ID: <8D0ADED8657BE1E-1120-38EC@webmail-m268.sysops.aol.com>


Derek asked me to post this response. Sandy
________________________________________________


I am grateful to Sandyboth because he circulated my writing, and because he offered an eloquentexplanation to a heartfelt response. I thank Caroline; she writes what many arethinking, not just about my piece but about what is happening in our culture generally.First let me state my intentions: my work arises from my deep despair about thepath we are taking, my deeper belief that we can make it past these troubles,and my deepest love of life, our Earth, and all sentient beings. I am notangry, I regret any pain that my words may cause. But the nature of this trancewe abide by living in America means that usually pain is required before we canawaken to what is being done in our name. I welcome discussion; I will be briefin this reply but crave engagement, relationship, and input so please continuethe dialogue we have begun.

 

My point in the articlewas summed up in the last sentence: what have you done to end your dependenceon oil? Until we stop using oil we continue to drive towards the cliff ofextinction. Keystone XL is not the problem; burning fossil fuels is our problem.Caroline points to some of the questions most important in our time: isdivestment a viable tactic? Is it enough to withdraw our own support of thestock market, in this case, while leaving the system in place for others tomanipulate? Must we care about who is providing the salaries of the leaders ofthe organizations we support as volunteers, like 350.org? Since I can?t do itall myself, is it enough that I focus on one small part of the whole problem,and trust that others will pick up the slack? Or is it also important that I domore than is comfortable, tackle more of the problem than will fit easily intomy schedule? Is it enough to protest tar sands, while saying not a word aboutthe coal that creates so much of our electricity, or the oil that powers ourvehicles? Of course no one is perfect, myself included. How much imperfectionis acceptable in our leaders? Is it different because they are leading us, ormust we hold them to a higher standard? A charismatic leader is always atreasure, but if we give them too much power we always end up with unforeseenconsequences, often worse than the problems we are trying to overcome. Is it OKthat corporations fund the politicians that make the laws that try to regulatethem, while at the same time funding nonprofits that actually oppose them? Canthat strategy of paying both sides work in their favor? We are unable to *shop*our way to sustainability; it also feels like merely making personal lifestylechanges will be insufficient. What is the balance between personal growth andactive resistance? I agree with Caroline: we cannot continue to wring our handsand do nothing. I too, have no clear view of what will work and what won?t,what path will lead us from this morass. But I also know that as long as we continueto buy oil and oil byproducts, we send a message to this economy thatcorporations need to find more oil at any cost and to continue to supply uswith what we demand. It feels that we must walk our talk: if we wantsustainable energy and food then that is all we should be using and eating;anything less is selling out our sacred values. I will acknowledge that it isnearly impossible to accomplish this goal today; the system is so overwhelming,especially for those of us who live in cities. So possibly the most importantquestion is this: where does our responsibility for change begin, and wheredoes it lead? How important is personal integrity? 

May we begin to explorethese questions as we continue our work to wake up our friends and neighbors?Once we have a clearer understanding, then we will see how an organization like350.org can fit into our future. Please join the discussion.

 

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Tue Nov 12 10:49:04 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:49:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 350.ORG
Message-ID: <8D0ADEEFDDE06A0-1120-3A60@webmail-m268.sysops.aol.com>


My personal opinion isthat Derek is too negative about 350.org. While we should be aware that thereare powerful forces trying to manipulate it for evil purposes, there are alsotens of thousands of people involved in it who can become an even more powerfulforce against the fossil fuel industry. And while stopping XL is only a tinystep in ending climate destruction, it is nevertheless an important issue thathas galvanized the movement and can lead to greater victories.
 
While it is true that weas individuals have to stop consuming oil, personal lifestyle changes can neverdefeat the power of the corporations. Even McKibben has stated (see articlebelow) that we can all be as green as we want, but without a social movementthe planet is still going to die, and all of us with it.
 
Sharp discussion isgood, it creates change.
 
In the end, my opinionis that the outcome depends (as always) on what we do. We have to askourselves, are the organizations we are in capable of becoming powerfulvehicles for the kind of social change we need? If so, what are we doingto help them become that?
 
Sandy
 
 
 
Bill McKibben: "Being Green Won't Solve theProblem"
By Lindsay Abrams, Salon
16 September 13
  
Thewriter-turned-activist on leading the leaderless climate movement.
 
self-described"average 51-year-old book author with a receding hairline" turned"unlikely and somewhat reluctant" activist, Bill McKibben these daysis something of a rock star.
McKibbenfirst stepped into the climate scene with "The End of Nature," hisfirst book and one of the first to bring climate change to the public'sattention. More recently, he founded 350.org, an internationalactivist organization. In the course of 25 years, he's gone from writing forthe New Yorker to being a major player in a recent feature published there, whichargues that his work "successfully made Keystone the most prominentenvironmental cause in America."
Hisnew book, "Oiland Honey," is in large part an account of this new role.It's bookended by two major events: a protest at the White House against theKeystone XL pipeline that he organized, and at which he proudly got arrested, and a nationaltour promoting his fossil fuel divestment campaign.Running counter to the campaign narrative is McKibben's relationship with abeekeeper named Kirk, who lives, he writes, at the opposite extreme. Running alocal honey business, Kirk lives off the grid, and never even goes on theInternet.
McKibbenspoke with Salon about protests, beekeeping and how the climate movement hasfinally grown up. The interview has been lightly edited for space and clarity.
Theway you approach climate change has completely changed course since you firstwrote "The End of Nature." Then, you were bringing attention to theissue, but you were reporting on it. Thirteen books later, "Oil andHoney" is the memoir of an activist. Can you talk a bit about thattransformation?
Everyonebelieved, 25 years ago - at least I did - that people would see there's aproblem. That if scientists and the rest of us really explained to policy leaderswhat was going on in the world, then they would take care of the problem. Imean, that's how the system is supposed to work, right? You identify a problem- the biggest problem the world's ever faced, potentially - and people go towork and do something about it.
Iknow I thought that's what would happen, at some level, and I know that that'swhat all the scientists trotting up to Capitol Hill year after year thought.But at a certain point it just began to dawn on us, or many of us, that itwasn't working. And really the reason it wasn't working was the incrediblepower of the fossil fuel industry, based in wealth. They presented an almostinsurmountable obstacle, and we certainly were never going to outspend them. Sothe hunt was on for the other currencies we might work in. The only ones thatanyone could think of was currencies of movements: numbers, passion, spirit,creativity, occasionally spending one's bodies. And I guess with 350, and theKeystone fight, and the divestment battle that we're in now, that's one of theplaces from which they came.
It'sfunny, because I write about the environment, and I feel like a hypocrite whenI drink out of a plastic water bottle. You got to the point where you had to bearrested on the White House lawn for this.
Well,I don't know that I feel like a hypocrite anymore. I mean, I fly all the time,or I have for the past few years as we've organized 350. But this is a systemicproblem. It's going to be solved or not solved by a systemic solution. It'spast the point where we're going to manage to do it one light bulb at a time.The roof of my house is covered in solar panels. When I'm home, I'm a prettygreen fellow. But I know that that's not actually going to solve the problem.So a lot of people have to get on the train and go to Washington to be inprotests.
Youwrite in the book that you're not very comfortable taking on the role of anactivist. But you also say that the real radicals are a different groupentirely.
Wheneveranyone challenges anything, the powers that be try to paint them as extremists,or radicals, or whatever. And I think that's actually nonsense. I think if youlook at, say, Occupy, which is held up as the most radical thing going, orwhatever, well to a large degree what people in Occupy are asking for is asystem that works somewhat the way we were told in civics class it did: whereeverybody had some say in how things came out, and just because you have a tonof money doesn't mean you get to dominate everything.
Inthe case of climate, it's very clear who the radicals are. If you're the CEO ofan oil company, making a huge fortune by altering the chemical composition ofthe atmosphere, then you're doing something so radical that nobody in the '60swould ever have thought of it. I remember reading once that in the '60s, peoplegot really scared, because Abbie Hoffman or someone pretended he was going todump LSD in some town's water supply, and get everybody out of their minds as aprank. What Exxon does on a daily basis is a million times that, and it's goingto last for a million years. It's just craziness.
SoI don't buy that anyone thinks you're a radical for standing up for this. Andthe people that came to get arrested at the White House? They seemed as normalto me as it was possible to be.
Howso?
Well,they were incredibly diverse. They came, I think, from all 50 states, and therewere a wide range of ages. When I wrote the letter to ask people to come, Isaid I don't think it should just be college kids, because in our economy,maybe an arrest record is not the best thing on your r?sum? when you go out fora first job. But past a certain point, what the hell are they going to do toyou? We didn't ask people how old they were, but we did ask who the presidentwas when they were born, because we wanted a sense of what era people werefrom. And the two biggest groups came from the FDR and the Trumanadministrations. A guy was arrested on the last day with a sign around his neckthat said, "World War II Vet, Handle With Care." Most people were inties and dresses. It couldn't have been a more normal group of people.Scientists, students, preachers, businesspeople, retired people, just peoplewho understand that the climate fix we're in is truly dire. And one of the manythings it means is we've got to leave the carbon that's in the ground in theground. It's just so crazy to go open up vast, more fields for exploitation.
Iwrote an essay a few weeks back about how this is largely a leaderlessmovement. The thing that's really impressed me in the last six months is justthe degree to which this movement has spread out. I wrote an essay on this afew weeks back. It looks to me the way we'd like the energy system to look:millions of solar panels on millions of rooftops, not a few big power plantssomeplace. And the same with the movement - it is the most open-sourced,spread-out, horizontal, beautiful sprawling thing. Which is precisely what it'sgoing to have to be because standing up to the fossil fuel industry, which issuch a protean, sprawling thing itself, will require that kind of movement.
TheNew York Times just published an article about 350.org's divestment campaign,in which administrators are arguing that having stocks gives them influence.They say they can sway oil companies toward better practices from the inside -
Yeah,this seems like exactly the same article that people were using when theydidn't want to divest from South Africa 25 years ago. It's theoretically a goodargument, but they've been theoretically doing it for 25 years, right? And ithasn't worked at all.
Infact, the big oil companies have gone in the opposite direction. Ten years ago,BP was talking about being "beyond petroleum." In the last three orfour years, they've sold off their wind and solar divisions. That's just anexcuse for inaction. These are not people who are serious about engaging thisissue.
Happily,there are lots of boards of trustees and politicians who are. And we'llconvince the rest of them over time the old-fashioned way. It will just become clearthat students, faculty and alumni at colleges, and voters in various cities,and parishioners in churches and synagogues, just don't want to be involved andinvested in this mess.
Doyou see that as something that's more symbolic, or do you think it could have areal economic impact?
Ithink it'll have its real economic impact, oddly, through symbolic action. Wecan't bankrupt Exxon. But we can politically and morally bankrupt them. Wecan't bankrupt them financially in the short run - they have lots of money. Butwe can reduce their political power dramatically. When the United Church ofChrist, the oldest Protestant denomination in the country - it traces its rootsback to the pilgrims - when they say, we don't want to be invested in theseguys, involved with these guys, that counts.
WhenNelson Mandela got out of prison, one of the first foreign trips he took was tothe U.S. He did not go first to the White House, he went first to California,to say to people, thank you for your help in overcoming apartheid. We obviouslyliberated ourselves, but we couldn't have done it by ourselves.
Backto the book, one of its core ideas is the tension between localizing andglobalizing: Should we all be out protesting at the White House, or should weretreat to subsistence agriculture? Do you think there's a happy medium there?
Ithink it's sort of summed up in the physics of the problem. We have to adapt tothat which we can't prevent, which means all our communities are going to haveto start thinking hard about how they secure food and shelter in a difficultworld. We certainly learned that lesson in Vermont as Hurricane Irene sweptthrough. So for me, the most hopeful part of this whole book is all the stuffabout Kirk and his bees, and new ways of doing some of this stuff - and thepower and beauty of it.
Atthe same time, the trouble we see already was caused by raising the temperatureone degree. If we raise the temperature four or five degrees Celsius, which iswhat the scientists tell us we will do if we keep on our current path, then itdoesn't matter how organic your farm is - it's still not going to work. Youcan't grow food if it rains every day for 30 days, or if it doesn't rain at allfor 30 days. Then you're just stuck. So I think the mantra is: "Adapt tothat which you can't prevent, prevent that to which you can't adapt." Kirkwas working hard on the adaptation part, and I was doing my best on theprevention side.
Howare Kirk's bees doing?
Thiswas not a good year for honey, because it was very rainy and wet in the earlypart of the summer. But I just talked to him yesterday, and the queens-rearingbusiness is going well. It's good that he has a business that stands on severaldifferent legs, but he was disappointed in the honey crop.
Sothe honeybee die-off hasn't been affecting him?
Comparedto what could be going on, exactly right. You really should see how beautiful... I've got to say, I was just mesmerized learning about bees. There's justsomething about the fact that they manage to be both wild and sort ofdomesticated at the same time, in a way that no other creature I can think ofis.
Whatabout you? Do you plan on staying in the activist role for much longer?
Ithink this movement has many, many leaders, so I'll be happy to help if peopledo good things. But the young people I started 350 with were 21 and 22 when webegan. Now, at 28, 29, they're the most accomplished activists I know. Theydon't need much help from me - they're really fantastic at what they do.
Ithink it's important to realize that I'm not essential to it. That's kind of anodd thing to say since I've written a book about it, but for me, the mostimportant realization I had - I almost ended the book there - was when I got upon the stage at this big climate rally in D.C. in February, which was thebiggest thing of its kind ever. And the only thing I could think of to say was,"I've always wanted to see what the climate movement was going to looklike, and now I have."
 
  
 
 
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Dear John, 
When you think of jelly beans, you probably don't think of bigotry and discrimination. But the chairman of candy company Jelly Belly has donated thousands of dollars to roll back a law recently passed in California to prevent discrimination and hate against transgender students. 
This isn't the first time that Rowland has donated money to anti-gay causes. In 2012, he even hosted a rally for virulent homophobe Rick Santorum at Jelly Belly's factory in Fairfield, California. 
As a customer of Jelly Belly, I'm disappointed and outraged that my money is being used to fund hate. That's why I started my own campaign on CREDOMobilize.com, which allows activists to start their own petitions. My petition, which is to Herman G. Rowland, chairman of the board of Jelly Belly Candy Company, says the following: 
Selling your products to customers like me--customers who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, or allies--and then donating your profits to people who want to discriminate against us is hurtful and wrong. Pledge to stop donating to groups that promote discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the future and take back your $5,000 contribution to a group working on a statewide ballot initiative to repeal a humane and necessary new law that ensures transgender students have equal access to education in California.
Tell Jelly Belly's chairman to stop funding discrimination 
For years, schools in California disregarded the gender identification of transgender students. But in August, Gov. Brown signed AB 1266 into law, requiring public schools to allow transgender students to use public bathrooms, locker rooms, and join sports teams that match their gender identity. This law sets a precedent of tolerance and equality for schools around the country--a precedent that the extreme right and Jelly Belly's chairman want to reverse. 
A coalition of conservative groups is already mobilizing, using Jelly Belly Chairman Herman G. Rowland's $5,000 donation to smear the new law and roll back protections which will result in transgender students continuing to be bullied and isolated in their schools. 
I know the pain these students experience, because I was bullied for being transgender too. I was bullied since kindergarten for something I couldn't understand. I was isolated by parents and friends I expected to be on my side, and was treated like an outcast. Jelly Belly Chairman Rowland and his right-wing friends can't possibly understand the psychological trauma transgender kids experience, but he shouldn?t  perpetuate that trauma with this political effort to roll back California?s new law to protect kids. 
In the wake of last week's announcement that these extremists collected enough signatures to put the repeal of AB 1266 on the ballot, it's more important than ever that we fight back.1 If you sign my petition, we can make sure Jelly Belly Chairman Herman G. Rowland understands that supporting campaigns that stand for discrimination against his customers will be a costly decision. 
Will you join me and add your name to my petition to Herman G. Rowland, chairman of Jelly Belly, to demand he stop donating to groups that promote discrimination? 
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	1. "Opponents Of California Transgender Student Rights Law Get Signatures To Repeal," CBS Local, 11/10/13 

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I think organizations can be powerful vehicles for
good or bad.  I also think that organizations get
complacent, and lose sight of the original vision.
So one should not rely on organizations, one should
continually ask "What are we/they doing right?
What are we/they doing wrong?  What more can we/they
do?  Am I in the right organization(s)?  What should
I/we/they do different?

When a country goes to war, a LOT of things go into
the war effort.  I think that the climate chaos mess
is as serious (more serious?) than any war.  But so
far, our efforts are nowhere near the efforts put into
war.

Gerry


perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> My personal opinion is that Derek is too negative about 350.org. While
> we should be aware that there are powerful forces trying to manipulate
> it for evil purposes, there are also tens of thousands of people
> involved in it who can become an even more powerful force against the
> fossil fuel industry. And while stopping XL is only a tiny step in
> ending climate destruction, it is nevertheless an important issue that
> has galvanized the movement and can lead to greater victories.
> While it is true that we as individuals have to stop consuming oil,
> personal lifestyle changes can never defeat the power of the
> corporations. Even McKibben has stated (see article below) that we can
> all be as green as we want, but without a social movement the planet is
> still going to die, and all of us with it.
> Sharp discussion is good, it creates change.
> In the end, my opinion is that the outcome depends (as always) on what
> we do. We have to ask ourselves, are the organizations we are in capable
> of becoming powerful vehicles for the kind of social change we need? If
> so, what are we doing to help them become that?
> Sandy
> *Bill McKibben: "Being Green Won't Solve the Problem"*
> By Lindsay Abrams, Salon
> 16 September 13
> */The writer-turned-activist on leading the leaderless climate movement./*
> self-described "average 51-year-old book author with a receding
> hairline" turned "unlikely and somewhat reluctant" activist, Bill
> McKibben these days is something of a rock star.
> McKibben first stepped into the climate scene with "The End of Nature,"
> his first book and one of the first to bring climate change to the
> public's attention. More recently, he founded 350.org <http://350.org/>,
> an international activist organization. In the course of 25 years, he's
> gone from writing for the New Yorker to being a major player in a recent
> feature
> <http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/09/16/130916fa_fact_lizza>published
> there, which argues that his work "successfully made Keystone the most
> prominent environmental cause in America."
> His new book, "Oil and Honey
> <http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Honey-Education-Unlikely-Activist/dp/0805092846/saloncom08-20>,"
> is in large part an account of this new role. It's bookended by two
> major events: a protest at the White House against the Keystone XL
> pipeline that he organized, and at which he proudly got arrested
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mckibben/white-house-arrest_b_936175.html>,
> and a national tour
> <http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/pictures/bill-mckibben-and-350-org-on-the-do-the-math-tour-20121120>promoting
> his fossil fuel divestment campaign. Running counter to the campaign
> narrative is McKibben's relationship with a beekeeper named Kirk, who
> lives, he writes, at the opposite extreme. Running a local honey
> business, Kirk lives off the grid, and never even goes on the Internet.
> McKibben spoke with Salon about protests, beekeeping and how the climate
> movement has finally grown up. The interview has been lightly edited for
> space and clarity.
> *The way you approach climate change has completely changed course since
> you first wrote "The End of Nature." Then, you were bringing attention
> to the issue, but you were reporting on it. Thirteen books later, "Oil
> and Honey" is the memoir of an activist. Can you talk a bit about that
> transformation?*
> Everyone believed, 25 years ago - at least I did - that people would see
> there's a problem. That if scientists and the rest of us really
> explained to policy leaders what was going on in the world, then they
> would take care of the problem. I mean, that's how the system is
> supposed to work, right? You identify a problem - the biggest problem
> the world's ever faced, potentially - and people go to work and do
> something about it.
> I know I thought that's what would happen, at some level, and I know
> that that's what all the scientists trotting up to Capitol Hill year
> after year thought. But at a certain point it just began to dawn on us,
> or many of us, that it wasn't working. And really the reason it wasn't
> working was the incredible power of the fossil fuel industry, based in
> wealth. They presented an almost insurmountable obstacle, and we
> certainly were never going to outspend them. So the hunt was on for the
> other currencies we might work in. The only ones that anyone could think
> of was currencies of movements: numbers, passion, spirit, creativity,
> occasionally spending one's bodies. And I guess with 350, and the
> Keystone fight, and the divestment battle that we're in now, that's one
> of the places from which they came.
> *It's funny, because I write about the environment, and I feel like a
> hypocrite when I drink out of a plastic water bottle. You got to the
> point where you had to be arrested on the White House lawn for this.*
> Well, I don't know that I feel like a hypocrite anymore. I mean, I fly
> all the time, or I have for the past few years as we've organized 350.
> But this is a systemic problem. It's going to be solved or not solved by
> a systemic solution. It's past the point where we're going to manage to
> do it one light bulb at a time. The roof of my house is covered in solar
> panels. When I'm home, I'm a pretty green fellow. But I know that that's
> not actually going to solve the problem. So a lot of people have to get
> on the train and go to Washington to be in protests.
> *You write in the book that you're not very comfortable taking on the
> role of an activist. But you also say that the real radicals are a
> different group entirely.*
> Whenever anyone challenges anything, the powers that be try to paint
> them as extremists, or radicals, or whatever. And I think that's
> actually nonsense. I think if you look at, say, Occupy, which is held up
> as the most radical thing going, or whatever, well to a large degree
> what people in Occupy are asking for is a system that works somewhat the
> way we were told in civics class it did: where everybody had some say in
> how things came out, and just because you have a ton of money doesn't
> mean you get to dominate everything.
> In the case of climate, it's very clear who the radicals are. If you're
> the CEO of an oil company, making a huge fortune by altering the
> chemical composition of the atmosphere, then you're doing something so
> radical that nobody in the '60s would ever have thought of it. I
> remember reading once that in the '60s, people got really scared,
> because Abbie Hoffman or someone pretended he was going to dump LSD in
> some town's water supply, and get everybody out of their minds as a
> prank. What Exxon does on a daily basis is a million times that, and
> it's going to last for a million years. It's just craziness.
> So I don't buy that anyone thinks you're a radical for standing up for
> this. And the people that came to get arrested at the White House? They
> seemed as normal to me as it was possible to be.
> *How so?*
> Well, they were incredibly diverse. They came, I think, from all 50
> states, and there were a wide range of ages. When I wrote the letter to
> ask people to come, I said I don't think it should just be college kids,
> because in our economy, maybe an arrest record is not the best thing on
> your r?sum? when you go out for a first job. But past a certain point,
> what the hell are they going to do to you? We didn't ask people how old
> they were, but we did ask who the president was when they were born,
> because we wanted a sense of what era people were from. And the two
> biggest groups came from the FDR and the Truman administrations. A guy
> was arrested on the last day with a sign around his neck that said,
> "World War II Vet, Handle With Care." Most people were in ties and
> dresses. It couldn't have been a more normal group of people.
> Scientists, students, preachers, businesspeople, retired people, just
> people who understand that the climate fix we're in is truly dire. And
> one of the many things it means is we've got to leave the carbon that's
> in the ground in the ground. It's just so crazy to go open up vast, more
> fields for exploitation.
> I wrote an essay a few weeks back about how this is largely a leaderless
> movement. The thing that's really impressed me in the last six months is
> just the degree to which this movement has spread out. I wrote an essay
> on this a few weeks back. It looks to me the way we'd like the energy
> system to look: millions of solar panels on millions of rooftops, not a
> few big power plants someplace. And the same with the movement - it is
> the most open-sourced, spread-out, horizontal, beautiful sprawling
> thing. Which is precisely what it's going to have to be because standing
> up to the fossil fuel industry, which is such a protean, sprawling thing
> itself, will require that kind of movement.
> *The New York Times just published an article about 350.org's divestment
> campaign, in which administrators are arguing that having stocks gives
> them influence. They say they can sway oil companies toward better
> practices from the inside -*
> Yeah, this seems like exactly the same article that people were using
> when they didn't want to divest from South Africa 25 years ago. It's
> theoretically a good argument, but they've been theoretically doing it
> for 25 years, right? And it hasn't worked at all.
> In fact, the big oil companies have gone in the opposite direction. Ten
> years ago, BP was talking about being "beyond petroleum." In the last
> three or four years, they've sold off their wind and solar divisions.
> That's just an excuse for inaction. These are not people who are serious
> about engaging this issue.
> Happily, there are lots of boards of trustees and politicians who are.
> And we'll convince the rest of them over time the old-fashioned way. It
> will just become clear that students, faculty and alumni at colleges,
> and voters in various cities, and parishioners in churches and
> synagogues, just don't want to be involved and invested in this mess.
> *Do you see that as something that's more symbolic, or do you think it
> could have a real economic impact?*
> I think it'll have its real economic impact, oddly, through symbolic
> action. We can't bankrupt Exxon. But we can politically and morally
> bankrupt them. We can't bankrupt them financially in the short run -
> they have lots of money. But we can reduce their political power
> dramatically. When the United Church of Christ, the oldest Protestant
> denomination in the country - it traces its roots back to the pilgrims -
> when they say, we don't want to be invested in these guys, involved with
> these guys, that counts.
> When Nelson Mandela got out of prison, one of the first foreign trips he
> took was to the U.S. He did not go first to the White House, he went
> first to California, to say to people, thank you for your help in
> overcoming apartheid. We obviously liberated ourselves, but we couldn't
> have done it by ourselves.
> *Back to the book, one of its core ideas is the tension between
> localizing and globalizing: Should we all be out protesting at the White
> House, or should we retreat to subsistence agriculture? Do you think
> there's a happy medium there?*
> I think it's sort of summed up in the physics of the problem. We have to
> adapt to that which we can't prevent, which means all our communities
> are going to have to start thinking hard about how they secure food and
> shelter in a difficult world. We certainly learned that lesson in
> Vermont as Hurricane Irene swept through. So for me, the most hopeful
> part of this whole book is all the stuff about Kirk and his bees, and
> new ways of doing some of this stuff - and the power and beauty of it.
> At the same time, the trouble we see already was caused by raising the
> temperature one degree. If we raise the temperature four or five degrees
> Celsius, which is what the scientists tell us we will do if we keep on
> our current path, then it doesn't matter how organic your farm is - it's
> still not going to work. You can't grow food if it rains every day for
> 30 days, or if it doesn't rain at all for 30 days. Then you're just
> stuck. So I think the mantra is: "Adapt to that which you can't prevent,
> prevent that to which you can't adapt." Kirk was working hard on the
> adaptation part, and I was doing my best on the prevention side.
> *How are Kirk's bees doing?*
> This was not a good year for honey, because it was very rainy and wet in
> the early part of the summer. But I just talked to him yesterday, and
> the queens-rearing business is going well. It's good that he has a
> business that stands on several different legs, but he was disappointed
> in the honey crop.
> *So the honeybee die-off hasn't been affecting him?*
> Compared to what could be going on, exactly right. You really should see
> how beautiful ... I've got to say, I was just mesmerized learning about
> bees. There's just something about the fact that they manage to be both
> wild and sort of domesticated at the same time, in a way that no other
> creature I can think of is.
> *What about you? Do you plan on staying in the activist role for much
> longer?*
> I think this movement has many, many leaders, so I'll be happy to help
> if people do good things. But the young people I started 350 with were
> 21 and 22 when we began. Now, at 28, 29, they're the most accomplished
> activists I know. They don't need much help from me - they're really
> fantastic at what they do.
> I think it's important to realize that I'm not essential to it. That's
> kind of an odd thing to say since I've written a book about it, but for
> me, the most important realization I had - I almost ended the book there
> - was when I got up on the stage at this big climate rally in D.C. in
> February, which was the biggest thing of its kind ever. And the only
> thing I could think of to say was, "I've always wanted to see what the
> climate movement was going to look like, and now I have."
>
>
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Wed Nov 13 00:17:26 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:17:26 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [gpca-forum] Endorsing BOTH our Governor
 candidates should be a choice (from GPAC)]
Message-ID: <d7fc058f34645a60d42b397f3d66654e.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [gpca-forum] Endorsing BOTH our Governor candidates should be a
choice (from GPAC)
From:    "rubinarnol" <rubinarnol at aol.com>
Date:    Tue, November 12, 2013 12:56 pm
To:      gpca-forum at cagreens.org
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To the?GA/SGA/CCWG/CC: ?

At the regular County Council meeting of the Green Party of Alameda County
(GPAC), on November 10, 2013, we agreed, by consensus, that we consider
both Deacon Alexander and Luis Rodriguez to be qualified to represent the
GPCA as candidates for Governor (in the 2014 election).? Specifically, we
think it would be great for?both of them?to be campaigning as endorsed
Green Party Governor candidates next year.? We therefore would like a
choice to be added so that SGA delegates can co-endorse, or dual-endorse,
both Deacon and Luis.? (And since this will be a ranked-choice vote,
providing this option won't hurt anyone's preferences, rather, it will be
fully inclusive of the complete range of voting possibilities).??

Because it is unlikely that any of our statewide candidates will advance
past the Primary to the November 2014 General Election, the Primary season
is our?candidates' chance?to address the public in the role of candidate.
?It would benefit the Green Party for five candidates, rather than four,
to be able to play that role. ?This is in the Green Party spirit of "more
voices, more choices."? Let's expand our horizons and give ourselves the
option -- and the potential -- of?both?Deacon Alexander and Luis
Rodriguez?jointly?being our officially endorsed Green Party Governor
candidates.

Jan Arnold
For the GPAC County Council

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From eric at philosopherswheel.com  Wed Nov 13 11:26:26 2013
From: eric at philosopherswheel.com (Eric Meece)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 11:26:26 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
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Good comments Sandy. I agree generations blaming ewach other is useless. 
I do point the finger at the people though; it is up to them not to be 
misled, and it shouldn't be that difficult. McCarthyism could be cited 
correctly for blame on the war policies, although it was also because 
the military industrial complex responded habitually to communist 
threats (Truman and Johnson were not followers of McCarthy, but they did 
follow the complex's interests). Communism had some good points about 
controlling runaway capitalist greed, but its totalitarian methods and 
materialist values don't make it a viable method at all. But a better 
balance between socialism and capitalism that creates real rather than 
phony "freedom" and unequal prosperity, is being proposed now, and in 
the next decade-plus it will be put forward by Greens and others.

The Green values and platforms are an excellent roadmap of where we need 
to go. Green represents an advance on both democratic capitalism and 
socialism, taking the best of both and creating a new synthesis beyond 
the Marxist one. It respects the spiritual and inherent values of life, 
and brings individual freedom and collective responsibility into an 
ecology-like interaction and inter-dependence, like the person and the 
environment nourishing each other.

Eric the Green

On 11/11/2013 5:44 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> I think it is wrong and actually divisive for generations to point the 
> finger at each other and cast blame. The blame lies with the corporate 
> capitalist system, not with the American people who have been misled 
> by politicians, the corporate media, and our corporate-controlled 
> education system.  The "greatest generation" WAS great - how many of 
> us would leave our families and communities for four or five years and 
> risk our lives to defend what they understood was democracy and freedom?
> The greatest generation was ruined by McCarthyism pure and simple. 
> Political debate in America, which thrived from the late 19th century 
> (and earlier) up through the early 1940s, was effectively ended. 
> Communists, socialists, and their "fellow-travelers" were hounded out 
> of Hollywood, the print media, radio, and every available means of 
> communication, not to mention unions, community organizations, 
> cultural groups, and even social clubs. When the left was shut out of 
> the debate - as surely as Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala were shut out 
> of the presidential debates - no wonder the result was war and 
> "mindless patriotism".
> We still suffer from McCarthyism today, where millions of people 
> continue to believe communism is a "criminal conspiracy" as Nixon 
> called it, rather than a viable and idealistic alternative to our 
> broken economy. It is up to us to not be afraid to put forward radical 
> solutions to society's problems. I joined the Greens because they are 
> not afraid to be different - as they say, the color of courage is green.
> I think conditions today are actually more favorable than ever for 
> proposing a new economic paradigm. For most people in the greatest 
> generation, capitalism actually worked (see "Capitalism - A Love 
> Story"). Now it is broken, failing to provide a living for millions 
> and failing to protect the environment. It is time for people like us 
> to step forward and change the world!
> Sandy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
> To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 10:05 am
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
>
> *I was inclined to think so until I recognized that they were not even
> *
> *smart enough to put wheels and a collapsible handle on their luggage*
> *--why should they be when Red Caps did all that for them?  Of course
> *
> *my  disillusionment with the Greatest doesn't change my evaluation of
> *
> *the Shittiest, my deGeneration, the one that climbed ***with Martin
> **
> **Luther King* out of the abyss to peer from the ridgetop, and then 
> stepped*
> *back from the brink of the Promised Land to settle for cocaine and
> *
> *luxury SUVs and McMansions instead of making the dream true.*
>
> **
> *We did succeed in preventing the war against Nicaragua, and probably
> *
> *we aided the liberation of South America such that US-backed torturers
> *
> *can now be prosecuted in Chile and Argentina, and victims of US -backed
> *
> *torturers could become presidents in Chile (Bachelet), Uruguay (Mujica)
> *
> *and Brazil (da Silva and Rouseff).   But Hollywood wars in Grenada and
> *
> *Panama and Kuwait enable the propagandists to claim we accomplished
> *
> *nothing, and that claim enabled the current crop of corrupt wars that
> *
> *continue today in Bush's fourth term.*
>
>
> **
> *Here's Professor Francis Boyle's poetic rant:*
>
> **
> *
> *
> *_The Greatest Generation?_*
> *Oh really?*
> *If they were so great*
> *Then why did they send*
> *Their Sons so willingly*
> *Off to die *
> *In Vietnam*
> *A war  they started*
> *While we suffered from*
> **
> *58,000 young men*
> *Of my generation*
> *Were murdered *
> *By The Greatest Generation*
> *Hundreds of Thousands*
> *Of our Lives were destroyed*
> *Plus**** 3 million genocided Vietnamese*
> *Not that "gooks" mattered to The Greatest Generation*
> *Then  neither did we their Sons *
> **
> *Why  didn't The Greatest Generation*
> *Rise up as One*
> *And tell the American Empire*
> *That you will not have our Sons*
> **
> *Over our dead bodies!*
> *Hell no!*
> *They will not go!*
> **
> *Why did The Greatest Generation*
> *Not fight for US their Sons *
> *Against the American Empire*
> *As they did against the German**** and  Japanese Empires*
> *We the Sons of the Greatest Generation were not worth it*
> **
> *They said they were liberating Peoples in Foreign Lands*
> *Then why did The Greatest Generation send   their Sons*
> *To fight and die*
> *In that God-forsaken Land?*
> *And to murder millions living in their own **Land?*
> **
> **
> *Was this some blood-sport***
> *we had to play*
> *With them as  pony riders*
> *and US  as  buzkashi goat carcasses*
> **
> *Was it  reverse Freudian Oedipal Complex*
> *Them killing us off***
> *before we got to  them*
> *And took their place*
> **
> *Were we  blood-sacrifice to Moloch*
> *With them as  Priests*
> *And we as  sacrificial lambs*
> **
> *Were they our   Abrahams*
> *Actually murdering  US  their  Isaacs*
> *In  a Holocaust*
> *To their  Genocidal Yahweh*
> **
> *Hard to say*
> *What was going on*
> *In the Minds of The Greatest Generation*
> *If anything at all*
> *Mindless Patriotism *
> *The last refuge of them Scoundrels!*
> **
> *They knew all about War*
> *then sent their Sons marching off*
> * Into the Valley of Death*
> *Charge of the Light Brigade*
> **
> *The result was predictable *
> *A Decimated Generation*
> *A Shattered Generation*
> *_MY GENERATION!_*
> *_BUT WE ENDED THEIR DAMN WAR!_*
> **
> *The Greatest Generation?*
> *Hell no!*
> *A Pathetic Generation!*
> **
> *May they  ever be  tormented*
> *By Their Own  Son's  Souls*
> **
> **
> **
> *_Professor Francis A. Boyle_
> *
> **
> **
> *Francis A. Boyle*
> *Law Building*
> *504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.*
> *Champaign, IL 61820 USA*
> **
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 13 11:59:48 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 11:59:48 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Progressive Budget Blueprint" [Sanders]
Message-ID: <5283DA34.4080501@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"Sanders Goes on Offense Against Austerity with 'Progressive Budget 
Blueprint'"
"As budget committee meets again, progressive lawmakers declare 
full-throated defense of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid while 
saying 'Jobs, Not Cuts' is more sensible path"
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/13-3
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/budget/

(The latter page has a petition/)

I'm glad to see this.  From my reading, the only thing austerity
is good for is transferring wealth "upwards".

Gerry


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 13 12:26:40 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:26:40 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
In-Reply-To: <5283D262.8000005@philosopherswheel.com>
References: <BAY177-W33786323AB8EDFEFA52DD19EFF0@phx.gbl>,
	<8D0AD5FDD1E39F6-EC0-3FCDE@webmail-m278.sysops.aol.com>,
	<5283D262.8000005@philosopherswheel.com>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W16618F3F158904B6F924AE9EF90@phx.gbl>

My finger was pointed first of all at myself, though I'll suppose that wasn't obvious.

I found Professor Boyle's view provocative because I had arrived at that perception myself just a few days earlier in a discussion of militarism wherein one party started bragging about what a war hero his dad had been in WWII and for the first time in all these decades it occurred to me to ask "Well, didn't your war hero dad ever tell you that war is hell?  And why not?"

Why were the war heroes silent in the Vietnam controversy?  Why was there no Smedley Butler of the 1960s to take General Eisenhower's warnings about the Military Industrial Complex and run with them, and stand with Martin Luther King when he denounced Imperialism in his Riverside speech in 1967?   Of course we had the Winter Soldier hearings and the VVAW, but why did the Greatest Generation snub them?
As don't recall any effort to convince us that the war was right, but only the bald assertion that a communist Vietnam would be bad for America, and a lot of platitudes about duty and sacrifice and the price of freedom with no attempt at all to make a logical case for the war.

My rant about my deGeneration was born of my frustration at having accomplished nothing in almost ten years of full-time activism, which I attribute to a prevailing attitude of selfish, smug, and highly self-serving cynicism and apathy among those who have the skills and the resources to make a difference if they wanted to.   They anger me because for twenty years I was one of them.  I didn't even bother to vote most of the time, didn't even know Nader was running in 2000, didn't know about the mass mobe against the Iraq  war until after it was over.  It was because of my selfish apathy during those years, and the selfish apathy of a hundred million like me, that this country got so deep in Doo Doo Creek that we're starting to feel at home in it.  So I come to my activism work out of obligation to take responsibility for the mess that I created.

Where did those 100,000 people go who demonstrated in San Francisco against the Iraq war?  How come we could never get more than 1200 to lie down on the beach on a beautiful summer Sunday to demonstrate for impeachment?   There was a time when I idealized Carol Brouillet as something like the Lone Cypress, standing in the gale with the waves crashing around, and I believed that by standing as an inspiration to resistance she could make a distance.  I'm starting to feel that I've been swimming against the current in Doo Doo Creek for so long that I no longer even care that I'm getting nowhere.






Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 11:26:26 -0800
From: eric at philosopherswheel.com
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?


  
    
  
  
    Good comments Sandy. I agree
      generations blaming ewach other is useless. I do point the finger
      at the people though; it is up to them not to be misled, and it
      shouldn't be that difficult. McCarthyism could be cited correctly
      for blame on the war policies, although it was also because the
      military industrial complex responded habitually to communist
      threats (Truman and Johnson were not followers of McCarthy, but
      they did follow the complex's interests). Communism had some good
      points about controlling runaway capitalist greed, but its
      totalitarian methods and materialist values don't make it a viable
      method at all. But a better balance between socialism and
      capitalism that creates real rather than phony "freedom" and
      unequal prosperity, is being proposed now, and in the next
      decade-plus it will be put forward by Greens and others. 

      

      The Green values and platforms are an excellent roadmap of where
      we need to go. Green represents an advance on both democratic
      capitalism and socialism, taking the best of both and creating a
      new synthesis beyond the Marxist one. It respects the spiritual
      and inherent values of life, and brings individual freedom and
      collective responsibility into an ecology-like interaction and
      inter-dependence, like the person and the environment nourishing
      each other.

      

      Eric the Green

      

      On 11/11/2013 5:44 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:

    
    
        I think it is wrong and actually
            divisive for generations to point the finger at each other
            and cast blame. The blame lies with the corporate capitalist
            system, not with the American people who have been misled by
            politicians, the corporate media, and our
            corporate-controlled education system.  The "greatest
            generation" WAS great - how many of us would leave our
            families and communities for four or five years and risk our
            lives to defend what they understood was democracy and
            freedom?
         
        The greatest generation was ruined by McCarthyism pure and
          simple. Political debate in America, which thrived from the
          late 19th century (and earlier) up through the early 1940s,
          was effectively ended. Communists, socialists, and their
          "fellow-travelers" were hounded out of Hollywood, the print
          media, radio, and every available means of communication, not
          to mention unions, community organizations, cultural groups,
          and even social clubs. When the left was shut out of the
          debate - as surely as Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala were shut
          out of the presidential debates - no wonder the result was war
          and "mindless patriotism".
         
        We still suffer from McCarthyism today, where millions of
          people continue to believe communism is a "criminal
          conspiracy" as Nixon called it, rather than a viable and
          idealistic alternative to our broken economy. It is up to us
          to not be afraid to put forward radical solutions to society's
          problems. I joined the Greens because they are not afraid to
          be different - as they say, the color of courage is green. 
         
        I think conditions today are actually more favorable than
          ever for proposing a new economic paradigm. For most people in
          the greatest generation, capitalism actually worked (see
          "Capitalism - A Love Story"). Now it is broken, failing to
          provide a living for millions and failing to protect the
          environment. It is time for people like us to step forward and
          change the world!
         
         
        Sandy
        -----Original Message-----

          From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>

          To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>

          Sent: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 10:05 am

          Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?

          

          
            
              
                I was inclined to think so until
                      I recognized that they were not even 

                    
                smart enough to put wheels and a
                      collapsible handle on their luggage
                --why should they be when Red
                      Caps did all that for them?  Of course 

                    
                my  disillusionment with the
                      Greatest doesn't change my evaluation of 

                    
                the Shittiest, my deGeneration,
                      the one that climbed with
                          Martin 

                        
                Luther King out
                      of the abyss to peer from the ridgetop, and then
                      stepped
                back from the brink of the
                      Promised Land to settle for cocaine and 

                    
                luxury SUVs and McMansions
                      instead of making the dream true.
                

                  
                We did succeed in preventing the
                      war against Nicaragua, and probably 

                    
                we aided the liberation of South
                      America such that US-backed torturers 

                    
                can now be prosecuted in Chile
                      and Argentina, and victims of US -backed 

                    
                torturers could become
                      presidents in Chile (Bachelet), Uruguay (Mujica) 

                    
                and Brazil (da Silva and
                      Rouseff).   But Hollywood wars in Grenada and 

                    
                Panama and Kuwait enable the
                      propagandists to claim we accomplished 

                    
                nothing, and that claim enabled
                      the current crop of corrupt wars that 

                    
                continue today in Bush's fourth
                      term.
                

                

                  
                Here's Professor Francis Boyle's
                      poetic rant:
                

                  
                

                    
                The Greatest Generation?
                Oh really?
                If they were so great
                Then why did they send
                Their Sons so willingly
                Off to die
                    
                In Vietnam
                A war  they started
                While we suffered from
                 
                58,000 young men
                Of my generation
                Were murdered
                    
                By The Greatest Generation
                Hundreds of Thousands
                Of our Lives were destroyed
                Plus
                     3 million genocided Vietnamese
                Not that ?gooks? mattered to The
                      Greatest Generation
                Then  neither did we their Sons
                    
                 
                Why  didn?t The Greatest
                      Generation
                Rise up as One
                And tell the American Empire
                That you will not have our Sons
                 
                Over our dead bodies!
                Hell no!
                They will not go!
                 
                Why did The Greatest Generation
                Not fight for US their Sons
                    
                Against the American Empire
                As they did against the German
                     and  Japanese Empires
                We the Sons of the Greatest
                      Generation were not worth it
                 
                They said they were liberating
                      Peoples in Foreign Lands
                Then why did The Greatest
                      Generation send   their Sons
                To fight and die
                In that God-forsaken Land?
                And to murder millions living in
                      their own
                    Land?
                 
                 
                Was this some blood-sport
                we had to play
                With them as  pony riders
                and US  as  buzkashi goat
                      carcasses
                 
                Was it  reverse Freudian Oedipal
                      Complex
                Them killing us off
                before we got to  them
                And took their place
                 
                Were we  blood-sacrifice to
                      Moloch
                With them as  Priests
                And we as  sacrificial lambs
                 
                Were they our   Abrahams
                Actually murdering  US  their
                       Isaacs
                In  a Holocaust
                To their  Genocidal Yahweh
                 
                Hard to say
                What was going on
                In the Minds of The Greatest
                      Generation
                If anything at all
                Mindless Patriotism
                    
                The last refuge of them
                      Scoundrels!
                 
                They knew all about War
                then sent their Sons marching
                      off
                 Into the Valley of Death
                Charge of the Light Brigade
                 
                The result was predictable
                    
                A Decimated Generation
                A Shattered Generation
                MY GENERATION!
                BUT WE ENDED THEIR DAMN WAR!
                 
                The Greatest Generation?
                Hell no!
                A Pathetic Generation!
                 
                May they  ever be  tormented
                By Their Own  Son?s  Souls
                 
                 
                 
                Professor Francis A. Boyle 

                    
                 
                 
                Francis
                      A. Boyle
                Law
                      Building
                504
                      E. Pennsylvania Ave.
                Champaign,
                      IL 61820 USA
                 
            
          
          
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Wed Nov 13 22:05:23 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:05:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Keystone XL Article
Message-ID: <8D0AF16A3964400-1AE8-11EAF@webmail-d231.sysops.aol.com>


This is a long but fascinating article on the evolution of the Keystone pipeline, its opponents, 350.org, and the famous hedge fund manager who, it turns out, lives right here in our back yard and wields enormous influence in California politics. I do not believe there are any clear conclusions here about the viability and effectiveness of 350.org, other than that they have obviously had an impact - they have delayed the pipeline significantly. As I said before, I believe the true nature of 350.org will become apparent only through the process of our participation in it (with our eyes wide open).

Sandy


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/09/16/130916fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 13 22:47:21 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:47:21 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in Santa
	Rosa
In-Reply-To: <BAY177-W20E22E8515817460744AED9EF80@phx.gbl>
References: <bc2b2.1fd61328.3fb54b1c@aol.com>,
	<BAY177-W20E22E8515817460744AED9EF80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W20355511CD97D6F74B15A09EF80@phx.gbl>



From: snug.bug at hotmail.com
To: wsb3attyca at aol.com
Subject: RE: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in Santa Rosa
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:46:57 -0800




I sleep on the floor at home anyway, so I'm willing to sleep on the floor in a shared motel room if anyone is 
willing to let me buy into that.

Brian 

From: WSB3ATTYCA at aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:37:32 -0500
Subject: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in Santa Rosa
To: perrysandy at aol.com; spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; andi at wrytor.com; snug.bug at hotmail.com
CC: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com






November 13, 2013
 
Folks!  Please accept my apology for not responding 
sooner...
I have just registered on-line at cagreens.org/ga -- November 
2013 link and re-reviewed the agenda.  Today is the deadline for 
registering at the $40/$20 rate.  Also, today is the last day to submit 
changes in our delegates information to agenda-team at cagreens.org.  The 
Logistics page lists motels.  The contact link to contact Susan Chunco 
for local hosting seems not to be working; so we are individually and 
collectively on our own regarding lodging (unless someone has other 
information).
 
My understanding after reading the email below, and speaking 
by telephone with Andrea yesterday, is that she is going to park her car in my 
driveway early Saturday morning and Sandy will meet us at my house, 867 North 
5th Street, San Jose, CA 95112.
What we need to agree on is whether we plan to stay overnight 
in Santa Rosa or plan to stay only for Saturday.  As presented at the 
October 24th GPSCC meeting, this Plenary has a very thin agenda.  The only 
reason I agreed to attend was to press the "SGA" issue.  Sandy's travel 
plan should get us there in sufficient time to object to the agenda and raise 
concerns and see how things progress. I do not want to "spoil" the experience 
for persons for whom this will be their first state party meeting, but I think 
we need some quick discussion for purposes of deciding if motel reservations are 
needed.
 
Warner  (408) 295-9353
 

In a message dated 11/11/2013 5:13:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
perrysandy at aol.com writes:

  My plan is to leave at 5:45 am Sat. morning, and make one stop in Oakland 
  to pick up Shamako Noble who asked me for a ride. If Warner's address is the 
  same as the one on his business card, I will pick him up there at 5:45 
  am.
   
  That should allow us to arrive in Santa Rosa at 8 am.
   
  At one time I commuted to Santa Rosa daily for a few weeks and found it 
  takes exactly two hours to get there, assuming traffic is light, which it 
  should be on the week-end. The East Bay route is quicker.
   
  Andrea, if you are planning on driving a separate vehicle, maybe you 
  could take the Peninsula - West Bay route and pick up Brian.
   
   
  Sandy
   
   
    		 	   		   		 	   		  
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed Nov 13 22:59:49 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:59:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in
	Santa Rosa
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I'm glad you folks seem to be getting together for the plenary. Tian and I got the stuff ready for Junior State today,? and Spencer printed some beautiful new literature, but I am hoping Jim can get back to me with a firm time to get there. I called around today and finally got the boy who is nominally in charge. He really had no idea about time.
Caroline
 

________________________________
 From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:47 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in Santa Rosa
  


 




________________________________
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com
To: wsb3attyca at aol.com
Subject: RE: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in Santa Rosa
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:46:57 -0800

 
I sleep on the floor at home anyway, so I'm willing to sleep on the floor in a shared motel room if anyone is 
willing to let me buy into that.

Brian 



________________________________
From: WSB3ATTYCA at aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:37:32 -0500
Subject: Travel and Lodging Plans for GPCA Plenary in Santa Rosa
To: perrysandy at aol.com; spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; andi at wrytor.com; snug.bug at hotmail.com
CC: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com

November 13, 2013 
? 
Folks!? Please accept my apology for not responding 
sooner... 
I have just registered on-line at cagreens.org/ga -- November 
2013 link and re-reviewed the agenda.? Today is the deadline for 
registering at the $40/$20 rate.? Also, today is the last day to submit 
changes in our delegates information to agenda-team at cagreens.org.? The 
Logistics page lists motels.??The contact link to contact Susan Chunco 
for local hosting seems not to be working; so we are individually and 
collectively on our own regarding lodging (unless someone has other 
information). 
? 
My understanding after reading the email below, and speaking 
by telephone with Andrea yesterday, is that she is going to park her car in my 
driveway early Saturday morning and Sandy will meet us at my house, 867 North 
5th Street, San Jose, CA 95112. 
What we need to agree on is whether we plan to stay overnight 
in Santa Rosa or plan to stay only for Saturday.? As presented at the 
October 24th GPSCC meeting, this Plenary has a very thin agenda.? The only 
reason I agreed to attend was to press the "SGA" issue.? Sandy's travel 
plan should get us there in sufficient time to object to the agenda and raise 
concerns and see how things progress. I do not want to "spoil" the experience 
for persons for whom this will be their first state party meeting, but I think 
we need some quick discussion for purposes of deciding if motel reservations are 
needed. 
? 
Warner? (408) 295-9353 
? 
In a message dated 11/11/2013 5:13:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
perrysandy at aol.com writes: 
My plan is to leave at 5:45 am Sat. morning, and make one stop in Oakland  to pick up Shamako Noble who asked me for a ride. If Warner's address is the  same as the one on his business card, I will pick him up there at 5:45  am. 
>? 
>That should allow us to arrive in Santa Rosa at 8 am. 
>? 
>At one time I commuted to Santa Rosa daily for a few weeks and found it  takes exactly two hours to get there, assuming traffic is light, which it  should be on the week-end. The East Bay route is quicker. 
>? 
>Andrea, if you are planning on driving a separate vehicle, maybe you  could take the Peninsula - West Bay route and pick up Brian. 
>? 
>? 
>Sandy 
>? 
>? 
>?   
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Thu Nov 14 10:45:44 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:45:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
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Thanks for your comments, Eric. My problem with McCarthyism is not simply with its followers, it is with the whole political environment it created, where economic cooperation and community were banished from political discourse, as was any possibility of peace with socialist countries. This led to Korea, Iran, Guatemala, Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, etc. Even if Truman and Johnson were not immediate followers of McCarthy, they followed his paradigm that peace with communists was not an option.

I do not think there is anything about communism (in the sense of a cooperative economy) that is inherently totalitarian. In fact, I believe it corresponds 100% with the Green values you enumerate. Personally, I am a Christian and I find that the ideal of a cooperative economy is fully consistent with my values (see Acts chapter 2). On the other hand, I find capitalism is rather abhorrent. The whole idea of depriving one group of people of their means of subsistence in order to force them to work for another (for the other's profit) is wrong and actually not consistent with Green values as I understand them.

I also understand that the Greens include a wide range of views. I respect that and enjoy the discussion.


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Meece <eric at philosopherswheel.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?


          
    
Good comments Sandy. I agree      generations blaming ewach other is useless. I do point the finger      at the people though; it is up to them not to be misled, and it      shouldn't be that difficult. McCarthyism could be cited correctly      for blame on the war policies, although it was also because the      military industrial complex responded habitually to communist      threats (Truman and Johnson were not followers of McCarthy, but      they did follow the complex's interests). Communism had some good      points about controlling runaway capitalist greed, but its      totalitarian methods and materialist values don't make it a viable      method at all. But a better balance between socialism and      capitalism that creates real rather than phony "freedom" and      unequal prosperity, is being proposed now, and in the next      decade-plus it will be put forward by Greens and others. 
      
      The Green values and platforms are an excellent roadmap of where      we need to go. Green represents an advance on both democratic      capitalism and socialism, taking the best of both and creating a      new synthesis beyond the Marxist one. It respects the spiritual      and inherent values of life, and brings individual freedom and      collective responsibility into an ecology-like interaction and      inter-dependence, like the person and the environment nourishing      each other.
      
      Eric the Green
      
      On 11/11/2013 5:44 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
    
    
        
I think it is wrong and actually            divisive for generations to point the finger at each other            and cast blame. The blame lies with the corporate capitalist            system, not with the American people who have been misled by            politicians, the corporate media, and our            corporate-controlled education system.  The "greatest            generation" WAS great - how many of us would leave our            families and communities for four or five years and risk our            lives to defend what they understood was democracy and            freedom?
        
 
        
The greatest generation was ruined by McCarthyism pure and          simple. Political debate in America, which thrived from the          late 19th century (and earlier) up through the early 1940s,          was effectively ended. Communists, socialists, and their          "fellow-travelers" were hounded out of Hollywood, the print          media, radio, and every available means of communication, not          to mention unions, community organizations, cultural groups,          and even social clubs. When the left was shut out of the          debate - as surely as Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala were shut          out of the presidential debates - no wonder the result was war          and "mindless patriotism".
        
 
        
We still suffer from McCarthyism today, where millions of          people continue to believe communism is a "criminal          conspiracy" as Nixon called it, rather than a viable and          idealistic alternative to our broken economy. It is up to us          to not be afraid to put forward radical solutions to society's          problems. I joined the Greens because they are not afraid to          be different - as they say, the color of courage is green. 
        
 
        
I think conditions today are actually more favorable than          ever for proposing a new economic paradigm. For most people in          the greatest generation, capitalism actually worked (see          "Capitalism - A Love Story"). Now it is broken, failing to          provide a living for millions and failing to protect the          environment. It is time for people like us to step forward and          change the world!
        
 
        
 
        
Sandy
        
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          From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
          To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
          Sent: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 10:05 am
          Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?
          
          
            
              
                
I was inclined to think so until                      I recognized that they were not even 
                    
                
smart enough to put wheels and a                      collapsible handle on their luggage
                
--why should they be when Red                      Caps did all that for them?  Of course 
                    
                
my  disillusionment with the                      Greatest doesn't change my evaluation of 
                    
                
the Shittiest, my deGeneration,                      the one that climbed with                          Martin 
                        
                
Luther King out                      of the abyss to peer from the ridgetop, and then                      stepped
                
back from the brink of the                      Promised Land to settle for cocaine and 
                    
                
luxury SUVs and McMansions                      instead of making the dream true.
                

                  
                
We did succeed in preventing the                      war against Nicaragua, and probably 
                    
                
we aided the liberation of South                      America such that US-backed torturers 
                    
                
can now be prosecuted in Chile                      and Argentina, and victims of US -backed 
                    
                
torturers could become                      presidents in Chile (Bachelet), Uruguay (Mujica) 
                    
                
and Brazil (da Silva and                      Rouseff).   But Hollywood wars in Grenada and 
                    
                
Panama and Kuwait enable the                      propagandists to claim we accomplished 
                    
                
nothing, and that claim enabled                      the current crop of corrupt wars that 
                    
                
continue today in Bush's fourth                      term.
                
                

                  
                
Here's Professor Francis Boyle's                      poetic rant:
                

                  
                

                    
                
The Greatest Generation?
                
Oh really?
                
If they were so great
                
Then why did they send
                
Their Sons so willingly
                
Off to die                    
                
In Vietnam
                
A war  they started
                
While we suffered from
                
 
                
58,000 young men
                
Of my generation
                
Were murdered                    
                
By The Greatest Generation
                
Hundreds of Thousands
                
Of our Lives were destroyed
                
Plus                     3 million genocided Vietnamese
                
Not that ?gooks? mattered to The                      Greatest Generation
                
Then  neither did we their Sons                    
                
 
                
Why  didn?t The Greatest                      Generation
                
Rise up as One
                
And tell the American Empire
                
That you will not have our Sons
                
 
                
Over our dead bodies!
                
Hell no!
                
They will not go!
                
 
                
Why did The Greatest Generation
                
Not fight for US their Sons                    
                
Against the American Empire
                
As they did against the German                     and  Japanese Empires
                
We the Sons of the Greatest                      Generation were not worth it
                
 
                
They said they were liberating                      Peoples in Foreign Lands
                
Then why did The Greatest                      Generation send   their Sons
                
To fight and die
                
In that God-forsaken Land?
                
And to murder millions living in                      their own                    Land?
                
 
                
 
                
Was this some blood-sport
                
we had to play
                
With them as  pony riders
                
and US  as  buzkashi goat                      carcasses
                
 
                
Was it  reverse Freudian Oedipal                      Complex
                
Them killing us off
                
before we got to  them
                
And took their place
                
 
                
Were we  blood-sacrifice to                      Moloch
                
With them as  Priests
                
And we as  sacrificial lambs
                
 
                
Were they our   Abrahams
                
Actually murdering  US  their                       Isaacs
                
In  a Holocaust
                
To their  Genocidal Yahweh
                
 
                
Hard to say
                
What was going on
                
In the Minds of The Greatest                      Generation
                
If anything at all
                
Mindless Patriotism                    
                
The last refuge of them                      Scoundrels!
                
 
                
They knew all about War
                
then sent their Sons marching                      off
                
 Into the Valley of Death
                
Charge of the Light Brigade
                
 
                
The result was predictable                    
                
A Decimated Generation
                
A Shattered Generation
                
MY GENERATION!
                
BUT WE ENDED THEIR DAMN WAR!
                
 
                
The Greatest Generation?
                
Hell no!
                
A Pathetic Generation!
                
 
                
May they  ever be  tormented
                
By Their Own  Son?s  Souls
                
 
                
 
                
 
                
Professor Francis A. Boyle 
                    
                
 
                
 
                
Francis                      A. Boyle
                
Law                      Building
                
504                      E. Pennsylvania Ave.
                
Champaign,                      IL 61820 USA
                 
            
          
          
            
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 14 11:15:02 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:15:02 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Capitalists Idea
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I think this idea is overly simplistic, but still useful.

Capitalists are to ordinary people as farmers are to farm animals.

Gerry


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From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:25:41 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Preach In on climate change
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 14 16:02:06 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:02:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: tell the FDA to not destroy organics
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FYI


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Food Democracy Now! Team <info at fooddemocracynow.org>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:29 PM
Subject: tell the FDA to not destroy organics
 


 
Don't let new food safety rules wipe out the local food movement!

Take a stand for the local food movement!
Don't let the FDA toss your local salad - Tell the FDA to fix the food safety rules to protect America's farmer, not drive them out of business! 

Dear John,
If you think being forced to eat Monsanto?s unlabeled GMOs is an outrage, what would you say about having the same man who wrote that corporate loophole for Monsanto more than 20 years ago at the FDA being in charge of writing food safety rules that could wipe out America?s small and mid-sized farms in an avalanche of burdensome regulations?
That?s right, at this moment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is currently considering rules that will determine how the 2010 Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) will be implemented and it?s not pretty
Not only is former Monsanto attorney and super lobbyist Michael Taylor, the man who crafted the FDA?s 1992 policy that won?t allow GMO labeling in the U.S., back at the FDA, but under the Obama administrationMichael Taylor has been appointed the food safety czar and is responsible for crafting new rules that could drive tens of thousands of America?s small, local and organic family farmers out of business.
The current proposed rules are so bad they will create such burdensome costs on local food producers, threatening to bankrupt family farmers who are the backbone of the growing local food movement, farmers markets, Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) and farm to school programs that many Americans like you support.
Right now there?s a comment period at the FDA that ends this Friday, November 15th, and we need your help to protect America?s local food movement and the family farmers that grow our local, organic food. 

Click here to automatically tell the FDA to protect America?s family farmers and the local food movement.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1093?t=7&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
Click here to add a personal comment: If you are a family farmer or food producer let the FDA know how these rules will impact you.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1092?t=10&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
Small and midsize family farmers shouldn?t be forced out of business because factory farms and giant corporations have created greater risks in our food supply. Stand up for local food and family farmers!
Even more incredible than having a former Monsanto lobbyist write these new food safety rules is the fact that the Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) is also a guiding force in crafting these local food, family farm killing regulations.
That?s right, the GMA, the same corporate lobbying front group that just illegally donated $11 million to defeat GMO labeling in Washington state has been working with the FDA and former Monsanto lobbyist Michael Taylor to craft regulations to help drive the best local, organic farmers out of business.
From the GMA?s website: ?GMA worked closely with legislators to craft the FDA Food Safety 
Modernization Act and will work closely with the FDA to develop rules and guidance to implement the provisions of this new law."
Lend your voice to help protect America?s growing local food movement and organic and sustainable family farmers.
If we want a vibrant alternative to our current industrialized food system, we can?t allow the FDA, Monsanto and the GMA to write regulations that will drive the best farmers we have out of business.
During 2010, when the Food Safety Modernization Act originally passed, Food Democracy Now! members generated more than 20,000 phone calls to Congress to help pass the Tester-Hagan and Manager Amendments which would have protected small and mid-sized farmers that are engaged in direct sales to consumers, but now the FDA is working to undermine those hard won protections.
Growing food and agricultural products is an inherently risky business. There are a lot of steps where things could go wrong. Disease, decomposition and bacteria are a natural part of growing, harvesting, processing, packaging, shipping and handling food.
Unfortunately, the massive industrialization of our food supply in the past 40 years has resulted in previously avoidable food safety outbreaks.? The rise of antibiotic resistance in factory farms, E. coli tainted meat and outrageous outbreaks of salmonella in peanut butter and half a billion eggs prove that it is America?s industrial food supply that increases food safety risks.
Rather than focus on the real problems, the new rules drafted by the FDA for the Food Safety Modernization Act have attempted to place a ?one-size-fits-all? approach that will force many small and mid-sized family farmers out of business.
According to the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition, these new rules could impact more than 30,000 small farms and cost some farmers as much as half their profits just to comply with excessive food safety plans that are more appropriate for factory farm and industrial scale producers.
Thanks for taking part in food democracy!
Dave, Lisa and the Food Democracy Action! Team
Sources:
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http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1088?t=13&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
2. ?Will Feds Bankrupt Small Farms With Food Safety Rules?? Huffington Post, November 5, 2013
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1089?t=15&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
3. ?Fear the Turtle: FDA's One Sided Food Safety Regulations,? Huffington Post, November 4, 2013
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1090?t=17&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
4. ?4 Foods That Could Disappear If New Food Safety Rules Pass?, Mother Jones, November 6, 2013
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 14 16:03:53 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:03:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: tell the FDA to not destroy organics
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To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:29 PM
Subject: tell the FDA to not destroy organics
 


 
Don't let new food safety rules wipe out the local food movement!

Take a stand for the local food movement!
Don't let the FDA toss your local salad - Tell the FDA to fix the food safety rules to protect America's farmer, not drive them out of business! 

Dear John,
If you think being forced to eat Monsanto?s unlabeled GMOs is an outrage, what would you say about having the same man who wrote that corporate loophole for Monsanto more than 20 years ago at the FDA being in charge of writing food safety rules that could wipe out America?s small and mid-sized farms in an avalanche of burdensome regulations?
That?s right, at this moment the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is currently considering rules that will determine how the 2010 Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) will be implemented and it?s not pretty
Not only is former Monsanto attorney and super lobbyist Michael Taylor, the man who crafted the FDA?s 1992 policy that won?t allow GMO labeling in the U.S., back at the FDA, but under the Obama administrationMichael Taylor has been appointed the food safety czar and is responsible for crafting new rules that could drive tens of thousands of America?s small, local and organic family farmers out of business.
The current proposed rules are so bad they will create such burdensome costs on local food producers, threatening to bankrupt family farmers who are the backbone of the growing local food movement, farmers markets, Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) and farm to school programs that many Americans like you support.
Right now there?s a comment period at the FDA that ends this Friday, November 15th, and we need your help to protect America?s local food movement and the family farmers that grow our local, organic food. 

Click here to automatically tell the FDA to protect America?s family farmers and the local food movement.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1093?t=7&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
Click here to add a personal comment: If you are a family farmer or food producer let the FDA know how these rules will impact you.
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1092?t=10&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
Small and midsize family farmers shouldn?t be forced out of business because factory farms and giant corporations have created greater risks in our food supply. Stand up for local food and family farmers!
Even more incredible than having a former Monsanto lobbyist write these new food safety rules is the fact that the Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) is also a guiding force in crafting these local food, family farm killing regulations.
That?s right, the GMA, the same corporate lobbying front group that just illegally donated $11 million to defeat GMO labeling in Washington state has been working with the FDA and former Monsanto lobbyist Michael Taylor to craft regulations to help drive the best local, organic farmers out of business.
From the GMA?s website: ?GMA worked closely with legislators to craft the FDA Food Safety 
Modernization Act and will work closely with the FDA to develop rules and guidance to implement the provisions of this new law."
Lend your voice to help protect America?s growing local food movement and organic and sustainable family farmers.
If we want a vibrant alternative to our current industrialized food system, we can?t allow the FDA, Monsanto and the GMA to write regulations that will drive the best farmers we have out of business.
During 2010, when the Food Safety Modernization Act originally passed, Food Democracy Now! members generated more than 20,000 phone calls to Congress to help pass the Tester-Hagan and Manager Amendments which would have protected small and mid-sized farmers that are engaged in direct sales to consumers, but now the FDA is working to undermine those hard won protections.
Growing food and agricultural products is an inherently risky business. There are a lot of steps where things could go wrong. Disease, decomposition and bacteria are a natural part of growing, harvesting, processing, packaging, shipping and handling food.
Unfortunately, the massive industrialization of our food supply in the past 40 years has resulted in previously avoidable food safety outbreaks.? The rise of antibiotic resistance in factory farms, E. coli tainted meat and outrageous outbreaks of salmonella in peanut butter and half a billion eggs prove that it is America?s industrial food supply that increases food safety risks.
Rather than focus on the real problems, the new rules drafted by the FDA for the Food Safety Modernization Act have attempted to place a ?one-size-fits-all? approach that will force many small and mid-sized family farmers out of business.
According to the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition, these new rules could impact more than 30,000 small farms and cost some farmers as much as half their profits just to comply with excessive food safety plans that are more appropriate for factory farm and industrial scale producers.
Thanks for taking part in food democracy!
Dave, Lisa and the Food Democracy Action! Team
Sources:
1. ?Top 10 Reasons for Farmers, Consumers, and Organizations to Weigh in on Proposed Food Safety Rules?, NSAC, October 11, 2013
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1088?t=13&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
2. ?Will Feds Bankrupt Small Farms With Food Safety Rules?? Huffington Post, November 5, 2013
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1089?t=15&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
3. ?Fear the Turtle: FDA's One Sided Food Safety Regulations,? Huffington Post, November 4, 2013
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1090?t=17&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
4. ?4 Foods That Could Disappear If New Food Safety Rules Pass?, Mother Jones, November 6, 2013
http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/1091?t=19&akid=1060.479272.C70LEd
 

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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Thu Nov 14 19:30:48 2013
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:30:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda for GPSCC Meeting Thursday Nov 21st --
	Please Comment
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GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY 
Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting 
November 21, 2013 
San  Jose Peace and Justice Center,  
48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA  
(Between  Santa Clara and San Fernando) 
7:00 pm ? Eat and chat (No speaker announced at time of  preparation of 
this draft agenda) 
7:30 pm ? Begin meeting 
Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select 
Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) 
Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) 
Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) 
Report  on status of P. O. Box ? Continued from September meeting ? Tian 
Harter   
(5  minutes) 
Report  on November 16-17th Santa Rosa GPCA Plenary ?  
Plenary  Delegates (20 Minutes)  
Discussion  and Proposal to Instruct GPSCC Standing General Assembly  
Delegates re voting for GPCA endorsements  of state office candidates ?  Spencer 
Graves (15  minutes) 
Notes:  Current plans are for SGA delegates to  vote on GPCA endorsement of 
GPCA state office candidates during the week  immediately following  
the  Plenary.  This meeting will be the  last GPSCC general meeting before  
the  voting period ends November  24th.  The GPSCC SGA delegates  are:   
Jim  Doyle, Drew Johnson, John Thielking, Betsy Wolfe-Graves and  Spencer 
Graves. 
Proposal  regarding GPSCC endorsements of local candidates ? Spencer Graves 
(15 minutes) ?  Continued from October meeting; see text of proposal 
following these agenda  proposals 
Health  Care Committee Report  ?  (10 Minutes) 
Environment  Committee Report --  (10  Minutes) 
Report  from Jr. Statesman November 16th (5 Minutes) 
Discussion of status of tabling supplies ? (10 Minutes)  
Plan  for Tabling ? Need to identify event coordinators -- (15 Minutes)  
Downtown  Health Fair October 25th 
Holiday  Peace Fair December 14th 
Others? 
Proposal  re GPSCC blog ? Spencer Graves  
(10  Minutes)  Continued from October  Meeting; see text proposal below

(2 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) 
### 
Spencer Graves Proposal re GPSCC local  candidates endorsements.  Prop 14  
has in essence transformed the primary into the only election for minor  
parties.  We can appear on the  general election ballot only if we come in 
first or second in the primary.  That strongly encourages minor parties  to 
coordinate with one another to the maximum extent that their membership will  
allow.  We cannot control which  candidates pull papers and file to run, but 
we can control endorsements and  recruitment of candidates to file papers.  
There was discussion of this in the email list of the GPCA Standing  General 
Assembly <gpca-votes at cagreens.org>.  Sanda Everette indicated there have  
already been contacts between the statewide Coordinating Committee of the  
California Greens and representatives of Peace and Freedom and Libertarian  
parties.  Sanda said, "We were  hoping that there could be a full statewide 
slate with candidates running from  the three parties and no one competing with 
another third party candidate."   
RESOLUTION:  The Green Party  of Santa Clara County will attempt to contact 
other minor parties in Santa Clara  County, attend their meetings, and 
invite them to ours for the following  purposes: 
1.  The Santa Clara Greens  will agree to endorse candidates of other minor 
parties for races where we do  not have our own candidate.  "Minor  
parties" in this case will refer primarily to the Peace and Freedom and the  
Libertarian parties. 
2.  The Santa Clara Greens  will attempt to coordinate with other minor 
parties to develop joint procedures  for recruiting candidates to run for 
offices in a way that can maximize our  chances of winning.   
Spencer  Graves Proposal re GPSCC blog.   
PROPOSED:  The Santa Clara  Greens will authorize the creation of a blog on 
its web site.  The party will elect at least two blog  editors.  At least 
one editor  (different from the author) must approve any text posted as a 
blog.  All blogs must be consistent with the  ten key values and be labeled as 
the opinion of the author and not necessarily a  position of the Green Party 
of Santa Clara County.  Also, claims that might be controversial  should be 
justified with a footnote giving a reference to an appropriate source  with 
not links when appropriate web sites are available.  
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 14 19:47:30 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:47:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Hope For The Homeless
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Subject: Hope For The Homeless
 


Check out what Austin is doing to help the chronically homeless:


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 15 14:34:30 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:34:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Huge news!
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FYI


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Nita and Shaunna, UltraViolet" <info at weareultraviolet.org>
To: John F Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 2:30 PM
Subject: Huge news! 
 


 
Thank Prosecutor Kym Worthy for charging Renisha's killer with murder and let her know we're counting on her to bring justice for Renisha McBride and her family.?
Click Here  
Dear John,
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy just announced that the man who shot unarmed teen Renisha McBride as she sought help after a car accident will be charged with murder and possession of an illegal firearm.1
This quick investigation couldn't have happened without the nearly 60,000 of us who demanded action alongside groups like the Detroit NAACP and Color of Change. Together, we made sure yet another story of the senseless shooting of a black teenager didn't go unnoticed.
But our work isn't done. We know from past cases like Trayvon Martin's that Stand Your Ground laws can lead to killers getting away with the murder if they think someone looks "threatening," and Renisha's killer is claiming "self-defense" even though he shot Renisha through a locked screen door.
Can you thank Prosector Kym Worthy for charging Renisha's murderer and let her know we're counting on her to deliver a strong prosecution to get justice for Renisha and her family?
Click here to sign the letter.
Thanks for getting us a step closer toward justice for Renisha.?
--Nita, Shaunna, Kat, Karin, Malinda, Adam, and Gabriela, the UltraViolet team
Source:
1. Renisha McBride's alleged shooter to be charged with murder, ABC News, November 15, 2013?
Murder charges against the man who killed Renisha McBride, Fox News Detroit, November 15, 2013 
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Fri Nov 15 14:55:58 2013
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:55:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Critique of SGA for Santa Rosa Plenary
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THE  STORY OF AN ILLEGITIMATE ?SGA? (SO  FAR) 
Written by Warner S. Bloomberg III  November 15.  2013 
For  years there have been discussions and draft proposals about forming   
a  GPCA Standing General Assembly (SGA) that would operate electronically 
to  conduct administrative and other state party business, and thereby allow 
time  for more ?political?  and organizing work at state party meetings 
(aka General Assemblies of  Delegates, aka GA; aka Plenaries).  At the May 2012 
San Francisco Plenary, such a proposal was placed on the  agenda by the 
Bylaws Committee as part of an overall revision of the GPCA  Bylaws.  The 
proposals were  discussed during the Saturday morning session, and numerous 
concerns were  expressed.  The Presenter (Michael  Feinstein) then separated the 
SGA part of the proposals from   
the  others and called for a vote on the non-SGA proposals.  When a vote 
was taken, those draft  Bylaws amendments received only about 50% support ?  
well under the 80% required for a Bylaws amendment. 
That  discussion and vote was held on May 12, 2012.  No record of the 
discussions and  concerns is included in the record of decisions for that 
Plenary.  However, Michael Feinstein placed what  he characterized as a Bylaws 
interpretation on the agenda for the next meeting  of the GPCA Coordinating  
Committee (CC) on June 4, 2012 (night before the Primary Election).  The 
operative language of the proposal  was as follows: 
??the  CC interprets the existing bylaws that allow it to set the next GA, 
to set   
the  next GA as an SGA based upon the SGA proposal of May 13, for the 
following  purposes:  ?voting upon the  individual sections of the SGA proposal , 
to address the outstanding concerns  from the San Francisco General 
Assembly (and in the process allow the SGA to  conduct its review of the CC 
interpretation).? 
The  proposal was approved by the CC on a 10-1-1 vote.  Based on this vote, 
  
a  SGA was formed.  As part of its  activation, an on-line vote was 
conducted self=approving itself and various  amendments of GPCA Bylaws were 
assertedly enacted; including revision of GA  voting procedures to reduce the 
previous 2/3rds threshold for ordinary decisions  to 60% and to reduce the voting 
threshold for policy matters and Bylaws  amendments from 80% to 2/3rds.  
The  SGA also eliminated the Regional Representative members on the 
Coordinating  Committee and replaced those with an all at-large CC elected by the  
SGA. 
At  the June 2013 Napa Plenary, I objected to the Agenda on the ground that 
  
the  supposed CC Bylaws interpretation was required to be presented to an 
actual GA  for confirmation or rejection.  As  expressly noted at the 
beginning of the proposal considered by the CC on June 4,  2012: 
?Bylaws  7-3.2 Bylaws Interpretation specifies that ?In cases of bylaw 
ambiguity or  procedural disagreement, the General Assembly shall decide for 
itself the  meaning of its bylaws or or the appropriate procedure to be 
followed.  Between General Assembly meetings, the  Coordinating Committee shall 
decide these questions subject to review at the  next General Assembly meeting?
.? 
After  discussion, the vote to approve the Agenda was 19-12-5, or 61% for  
approval.  Under the GPCA Bylaws as  published on June 4, 2012, the Agenda 
would not have been approved as less than  2/3rds; but because the 
Facilitators used the SGA changes, the Agenda was deemed  to be approved by a vote 
above the ?new? 60% threshold.  Of particular note, the CC members did  not 
dispute any of the concerns about its failure to allow the GA to affirm or  
reject the CC?s Bylaws ?interpretation?; instead they argued that there 
simply  was not sufficient time to add it to the Agenda given other matters that 
had  been scheduled for the Meeting (e.g., adoption of a budget).  But the 
vote to approve the Agenda, even  using a disputed threshold, did not resolve 
the objection ? it only left it off  the GA Agenda and the objection 
remains unresolved.  (In Robert?s Rules of Order terms, the  item was ?tabled?.)  
And the CC  again has failed to place this issue on the Agenda for the 
current November 2013  Plenary (where the expediency excuse of ?not enough time?
 will not be  credible). 
The  GPCA Bylaw that supposedly was ?interpreted? by the CC was:  ?Section 
5.1.  Regular Meetings.  Section 5-1.1  Meeting frequency.  The General 
Assembly shall meet at least  twice a year. Date and location for next meeting 
shall be determined by the  close of each meeting.?  So there  were many 
problems with  
the  CC June 4, 2012 ?interpretation? of this (or any other) Bylaw as an 
excuse to  grossly exceed its authority to restructure the GPCA through what 
amounted to  the CC making Bylaws amendments ? which is only allowed to be 
done by a General  Assembly of Delegates. 
First,  there was no ?ambiguity? in the Bylaw.  And although it was argued 
that  
the  ?interpretation? was needed because a date and location for the next 
GA had not  occurred at the May 2012 Plenary, that circumstance has occurred 
many times in  the past and the CC simply has recruited a host and 
proceeded with the  scheduling of the next Plenary on that basis.  So the ?
interpretation? not only  violated the Bylaw it purported to interpret because the 
language of the Bylaw  itself was plain, the ?interpretation? also was  
unnecessary. 
The  ?SGA? proposed by and organized under the rationale of the Bylaw 
interpretation,  was not and is not a ?meeting?.  It  is an email subscription 
list that conducts electronic discussions and votes on  an electronic 
bulletin board.  At no  time is any individual at the same place with anyone else 
at the same time.  It operates only by internet  communications.  Therefore, 
there is  no such thing as  
an  SGA ?meeting? and the SGA created by the CC vote could not be a 
substitute for   
a  Plenary.   
Second,  and most importantly, the CC engaged in conduct that was 
unauthorized by the  GPCA Bylaws.  The ?interpretation?  was more than considering 
the GPCA Bylaws text; it created a totally new  structure in the GPCA 
amounting to Bylaws amendments that had not been approved  by any GA.  Even the 
proposal for  the CC meeting admitted that there had been no consensus at the 
May 2012 San  Francisco Plenary.  The  long-followed practice in the GPCA 
under such circumstances has been to review  the concerns and bring back a 
similar proposal or set of proposals at the next  GA.  So, adding to the 
violation of  the Bylaws, the proposal, itself, was speculative and conjectural 
about what the  Delegates at the Plenary occurring just weeks earlier had been 
thinking either  individually or collectively.  And  the CC vote failed to 
follow the long-standing practice of a measured  consideration of Bylaws 
amendments ? as had been the case with all previous  Bylaws amendments proposals 
(i.e., there was no urgency to create a ?SGA? in  June 2012).  While one 
can assume  the ?best intentions? on the part of the CC members who voted to 
approve the  ?interpretation?, those votes also can be described as a 
recourse to expediency  and a betrayal of trust by those holding that office. 
Third,  the CC failure to include its Bylaws ?interpretation? on the 
Agenda for the Napa  June 2013 meeting was an additional violation of the GPCA 
Bylaws.  That Plenary was the first GA since the  June 4, 2012 CC vote.  In 
the  meantime, the SGA ?self-approval? of the CC ?interpretation? that 
invalidly  created the ?SGA? by violating the GPCA Bylaws was itself invalid and 
 illegitimate.  These kinds of  shenanigans are sometimes referred to as ?
boot strapping?.  Another way of describing it is  ?circular thinking? (a 
kind of illogic used for self-justification).  Whatever words you want to call 
it, the  failure and then obstruction by the CC to allow GA consideration 
of the  ?interpretation? has created a question of illegitimacy on all 
actions by the  SGA and GPCA decisions using SGA created procedures. 
At  minimum, the Santa Rosa November 2013 Plenary needs to confront this 
issue.  Unless the CC will relent and place the  issue as the first item on 
the Agenda, GA time needs to be taken just to get the  matter before the 
Plenary Delegates.  Then, at least an hour of Agenda time will be needed to 
discuss the  issues and reach either confirmation or rejection of the CC June 4. 
2012  ?interpretation.  There is time to  do this.  There is no need to 
spend  time on whether an illegitimate SGA should even consider endorsement of a 
 cannabis legalization initiative.  The GPCA approved such a position at 
the San Jose Plenary (which was put  on the Agenda by Green Issues Working 
Group at the GA in the same session when  it was approved).  This GA can  
quickly endorse a similar initiative (although the failure to describe the  
initiative is another flaw in the proposed Agenda).  Likewise, as in the past, 
the Plenary  Delegates can endorse candidates for state office ? even with the 
Governor  position having two candidates (e.g., endorse both as proposed by 
the Alameda  County GP).  Sending those  endorsements to an illegitimate 
SGA should be avoided. 
What  happens if the GA rejects the CC ?interpretation??  GPCA Bylaws as 
existed on June 4, 2013  would need to be republished as the current GPCA 
Bylaws.  The GA also would need to appoint the  current (or other) CC members 
on an interim basis to serve until the next  GA.  That would be necessary 
because  the current CC members were ?elected? by a process created by invalid 
SGA Bylaws  revisions.  The currently  constituted SGA could be authorized 
to conduct votes on specific limited issues  (e.g., candidates and ballot 
issues), but given how the SGA has been manipulated  to accomplish what some 
have characterized as a ?coup?, any other SGA authority  needs to be 
carefully specified and expressly limited by future Bylaws  amendments approved by 
previous Bylaws authority and procedures.   
Yes;  the situation is a ?mess? and correcting it will take time and 
energy and  patience and persistence.  But we  are a community supposedly guided 
by  
the  Ten Key Values.  Continuing the  charade of an illegitimate ?SGA? 
makes us  
a  political party of expediency with the ?ends justifying the means?.  I 
thought that was somebody  else!!! 
Warner S. Bloomberg III joined the GPCA as a disaffected Democrat in 1994  
and served four years as a County Council Member of the Green Party of Santa 
 Clara County.  He also served four  years as the Coordinator of the 
Campaign and Candidates Working Group and served  four years as  
a GPCA Delegate to the GPUS Party National Committee.  He also served over 
a year on the GPCA  Coordinating Committee, including twice on the Budget 
Committee, and resigned  from the CC in 2012 in protest over the matters 
described above.  The opinions expressed are solely those  of the writer, 
although they also may represent the opinions of at least other  GPSCC members.
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 15 22:46:26 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:46:26 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Critique of SGA for Santa Rosa Plenary
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Below is an unauthorized digest of Mr. Bloomberg's Complaint, created by a sometime paralegal 


who prefers to remain anonymous, that I attempted to post to the gpca-forum list.  I did get an 
obscene response  from Hank Chapot.









THE [digest of the] STORY OF AN ILLEGITIMATE ?SGA? Written by Warner Bloomberg III (SO FAR)

 
The idea of freeing up GPCA state party meetings to allow more time for ?political? 
and organizing work by creating an electronic (email) Standing General Assembly (SGA) 
to conduct state party business has been discussed for some years.  At the May, 2012 
Plenary such a proposal was presented, inspiring some (unrecorded) expressions of
 concerns, but it was not voted upon.  At the subsequent June, 2012 meeting of the 
Coordinating Committee (CC) Michael Feinstein brought up a ?Bylaws interpretation?
 item which passed 10-1-1 and provided that the CC was allowed to set the next General
 Assembly (GA), that the GA should be an SGA, and that it should vote on the May SGA 
proposal and address the associated concerns.   

An SGA was formed, by on-line vote it self-approved, and several Bylaw amendments 
were voted upon reducing the voting threshold from 2/3 to 60% for ordinary decisions 
and from 80% to 2/3 for other decisions, and also eliminating Regional Representatives
 from the CC and replacing them with at-large Reps elected by the SGA.

At the June, 2013 Plenary, Warner Bloomberg objected to the Agenda on grounds that 
section 7-3.2 of the Bylaws requires that the CC's interpretations of the Bylaws be 
approved by the GA.  The vote to approve the Agenda was 19-12-5, or 61%.  This 
failed to meet the 2/3 requirement of the Bylaws as they existed before the CC's 
interpretations gave the SGA putative license to reduce the requirement to 60%.  The
 CC members did not dispute concerns about the lack of GA approval for its
 ?interpretation? of the Bylaws; they simply declared that time constraints did not
 permit discussion.  The CC has not put the issue on the current November, 2013 Agenda
either, even though time seems to be available.

Bylaw Section 5.1 provides that  ?Date and location for next [General Assembly] 
meeting shall be determined by the close of each meeting.?  The CC's use of 
interpretation of this provision to permit amendment of the Bylaws grossly exceeded 
its authority.  The CC's ?interpretation? was not necessary?the section is not 
ambiguous, and failures to schedule meetings have been handled more prosaically in 
the past.  The SGA's electronic discussion and vote tabulation can not be considered
 a ?meeting? that can substitute for a Plenary.  

More importantly, the ?interpretation? went far beyond the Bylaw text to restructure 
the GPCA, in effect amending the Bylaws with no approval from the GA, though
 long-standing practice has been to review concerns and bring the proposals back to 
the GA.  There was no urgency to justify this, and the CC's votes supporting this
 represented a recourse to expediency and a betrayal of trust.

In addition, the failure to submit the ?interpretation? to the GA in June, 2013 
violated the Bylaws.  SGA ?self-approval? of the CC ?interpretation? that invalidly
created the SGA by violating the GPCA Bylaws was itself invalid and illegitimate.  
Such shenanigans cast a cloud of illegitimacy on all SGA actions and procedures.

Unless the CC will place this issue first on the November, 2013 Agenda, GA time will 
be taken up simply to get the matter into discussion. There's no need to spend time 
on endorsement of a cannabis legalization initiative.   The GPCA approved such a
 position at the San Jose Plenary, and this GA can quickly endorse a similar initiative.  
 
If the GA rejects the CC ?interpretation?, GPCA Bylaws as extant June 4,  2013 would 
need to be republished as the current GPCA Bylaws, and the GA would need to appoint 
interim CC members to serve until the next GA (because the current CC members were 
?elected? by an invalid process).  The current SGA could be authorized to vote 
on specific limited issues (e.g., candidates and ballot issues), but its authority 
needs to be specified and limited by future Bylaws  amendments approved by previous 
Bylaws authority and procedures.
 
Correcting this mess will take energy and patience and persistence. But our Ten Key 
Values are inconsistent with an illegitimate ?SGA? operating on expediency with the
?ends justifying the means?. I thought that was somebody else!!!


From: WB4D23 at aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:55:58 -0500
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Critique of SGA for Santa Rosa Plenary







THE 
STORY OF AN ILLEGITIMATE ?SGA? (SO 
FAR)
Written by Warner S. Bloomberg III  November 15. 
2013
 
For 
years there have been discussions and draft proposals about forming 

a 
GPCA Standing General Assembly (SGA) that would operate electronically to 
conduct administrative and other state party business, and thereby allow time 
for more ?political? 
and organizing work at state party meetings (aka General Assemblies of 
Delegates, aka GA; aka Plenaries).  
At the May 2012 San Francisco Plenary, such a proposal was placed on the 
agenda by the Bylaws Committee as part of an overall revision of the GPCA 
Bylaws.  The proposals were 
discussed during the Saturday morning session, and numerous concerns were 
expressed.  The Presenter (Michael 
Feinstein) then separated the SGA part of the proposals from 

the 
others and called for a vote on the non-SGA proposals.  When a vote was taken, those draft 
Bylaws amendments received only about 50% support ? 
well under the 80% required for a Bylaws amendment.
 
That 
discussion and vote was held on May 12, 2012.  No record of the discussions and 
concerns is included in the record of decisions for that Plenary.  However, Michael Feinstein placed what 
he characterized as a Bylaws interpretation on the agenda for the next meeting 
of the GPCA Coordinating 
Committee (CC) on June 4, 2012 (night before the Primary Election).  The operative language of the proposal 
was as follows:
 
??the 
CC interprets the existing bylaws that allow it to set the next GA, to set 

the 
next GA as an SGA based upon the SGA proposal of May 13, for the following 
purposes:  ?voting upon the 
individual sections of the SGA proposal , to address the outstanding concerns 
from the San Francisco General Assembly (and in the process allow the SGA to 
conduct its review of the CC interpretation).?
 
The 
proposal was approved by the CC on a 10-1-1 vote.  Based on this vote, 

a 
SGA was formed.  As part of its 
activation, an on-line vote was conducted self=approving itself and various 
amendments of GPCA Bylaws were assertedly enacted; including revision of GA 
voting procedures to reduce the previous 2/3rds threshold for ordinary decisions 
to 60% and to reduce the voting threshold for policy matters and Bylaws 
amendments from 80% to 2/3rds.  The 
SGA also eliminated the Regional Representative members on the Coordinating 
Committee and replaced those with an all at-large CC elected by the 
SGA.
 
 
At 
the June 2013 Napa Plenary, I objected to the Agenda on the ground that 

the 
supposed CC Bylaws interpretation was required to be presented to an actual GA 
for confirmation or rejection.  As 
expressly noted at the beginning of the proposal considered by the CC on June 4, 
2012:
 
?Bylaws 
7-3.2 Bylaws Interpretation specifies that ?In cases of bylaw ambiguity or 
procedural disagreement, the General Assembly shall decide for itself the 
meaning of its bylaws or or the appropriate procedure to be followed.  Between General Assembly meetings, the 
Coordinating Committee shall decide these questions subject to review at the 
next General Assembly meeting?.?
 
After 
discussion, the vote to approve the Agenda was 19-12-5, or 61% for 
approval.  Under the GPCA Bylaws as 
published on June 4, 2012, the Agenda would not have been approved as less than 
2/3rds; but because the Facilitators used the SGA changes, the Agenda was deemed 
to be approved by a vote above the ?new? 60% threshold.  Of particular note, the CC members did 
not dispute any of the concerns about its failure to allow the GA to affirm or 
reject the CC?s Bylaws ?interpretation?; instead they argued that there simply 
was not sufficient time to add it to the Agenda given other matters that had 
been scheduled for the Meeting (e.g., adoption of a budget).  But the vote to approve the Agenda, even 
using a disputed threshold, did not resolve the objection ? it only left it off 
the GA Agenda and the objection remains unresolved.  (In Robert?s Rules of Order terms, the 
item was ?tabled?.)  And the CC 
again has failed to place this issue on the Agenda for the current November 2013 
Plenary (where the expediency excuse of ?not enough time? will not be 
credible).
 
The 
GPCA Bylaw that supposedly was ?interpreted? by the CC was:  ?Section 5.1.  Regular Meetings.  Section 5-1.1  Meeting frequency.  The General Assembly shall meet at least 
twice a year. Date and location for next meeting shall be determined by the 
close of each meeting.?  So there 
were many problems with 
the 
CC June 4, 2012 ?interpretation? of this (or any other) Bylaw as an excuse to 
grossly exceed its authority to restructure the GPCA through what amounted to 
the CC making Bylaws amendments ? which is only allowed to be done by a General 
Assembly of Delegates.
 
First, 
there was no ?ambiguity? in the Bylaw.  
And although it was argued that 
the 
?interpretation? was needed because a date and location for the next GA had not 
occurred at the May 2012 Plenary, that circumstance has occurred many times in 
the past and the CC simply has recruited a host and proceeded with the 
scheduling of the next Plenary on that basis.  So the ?interpretation? not only 
violated the Bylaw it purported to interpret because the language of the Bylaw 
itself was plain, the ?interpretation? also was 
unnecessary.
 
The 
?SGA? proposed by and organized under the rationale of the Bylaw interpretation, 
was not and is not a ?meeting?.  It 
is an email subscription list that conducts electronic discussions and votes on 
an electronic bulletin board.  At no 
time is any individual at the same place with anyone else at the same time.  It operates only by internet 
communications.  Therefore, there is 
no such thing as 
an 
SGA ?meeting? and the SGA created by the CC vote could not be a substitute for 

a 
Plenary.  
 
Second, 
and most importantly, the CC engaged in conduct that was unauthorized by the 
GPCA Bylaws.  The ?interpretation? 
was more than considering the GPCA Bylaws text; it created a totally new 
structure in the GPCA amounting to Bylaws amendments that had not been approved 
by any GA.  Even the proposal for 
the CC meeting admitted that there had been no consensus at the May 2012 San 
Francisco Plenary.  The 
long-followed practice in the GPCA under such circumstances has been to review 
the concerns and bring back a similar proposal or set of proposals at the next 
GA.  So, adding to the violation of 
the Bylaws, the proposal, itself, was speculative and conjectural about what the 
Delegates at the Plenary occurring just weeks earlier had been thinking either 
individually or collectively.  And 
the CC vote failed to follow the long-standing practice of a measured 
consideration of Bylaws amendments ? as had been the case with all previous 
Bylaws amendments proposals (i.e., there was no urgency to create a ?SGA? in 
June 2012).  While one can assume 
the ?best intentions? on the part of the CC members who voted to approve the 
?interpretation?, those votes also can be described as a recourse to expediency 
and a betrayal of trust by those holding that office.
 
Third, 
the CC failure to include its Bylaws ?interpretation? on the Agenda for the Napa 
June 2013 meeting was an additional violation of the GPCA Bylaws.  That Plenary was the first GA since the 
June 4, 2012 CC vote.  In the 
meantime, the SGA ?self-approval? of the CC ?interpretation? that invalidly 
created the ?SGA? by violating the GPCA Bylaws was itself invalid and 
illegitimate.  These kinds of 
shenanigans are sometimes referred to as ?boot strapping?.  Another way of describing it is 
?circular thinking? (a kind of illogic used for self-justification).  Whatever words you want to call it, the 
failure and then obstruction by the CC to allow GA consideration of the 
?interpretation? has created a question of illegitimacy on all actions by the 
SGA and GPCA decisions using SGA created procedures.
 
At 
minimum, the Santa Rosa November 2013 Plenary needs to confront this issue.  Unless the CC will relent and place the 
issue as the first item on the Agenda, GA time needs to be taken just to get the 
matter before the Plenary Delegates.  
Then, at least an hour of Agenda time will be needed to discuss the 
issues and reach either confirmation or rejection of the CC June 4. 2012 
?interpretation.  There is time to 
do this.  There is no need to spend 
time on whether an illegitimate SGA should even consider endorsement of a 
cannabis legalization initiative.  
The GPCA approved such a position at the San Jose Plenary (which was put 
on the Agenda by Green Issues Working Group at the GA in the same session when 
it was approved).  This GA can 
quickly endorse a similar initiative (although the failure to describe the 
initiative is another flaw in the proposed Agenda).  Likewise, as in the past, the Plenary 
Delegates can endorse candidates for state office ? even with the Governor 
position having two candidates (e.g., endorse both as proposed by the Alameda 
County GP).  Sending those 
endorsements to an illegitimate SGA should be avoided.
 
What 
happens if the GA rejects the CC ?interpretation??  GPCA Bylaws as existed on June 4, 2013 
would need to be republished as the current GPCA Bylaws.  The GA also would need to appoint the 
current (or other) CC members on an interim basis to serve until the next 
GA.  That would be necessary because 
the current CC members were ?elected? by a process created by invalid SGA Bylaws 
revisions.  The currently 
constituted SGA could be authorized to conduct votes on specific limited issues 
(e.g., candidates and ballot issues), but given how the SGA has been manipulated 
to accomplish what some have characterized as a ?coup?, any other SGA authority 
needs to be carefully specified and expressly limited by future Bylaws 
amendments approved by previous Bylaws authority and procedures. 

 
Yes; 
the situation is a ?mess? and correcting it will take time and energy and 
patience and persistence.  But we 
are a community supposedly guided by 
the 
Ten Key Values.  Continuing the 
charade of an illegitimate ?SGA? makes us 
a 
political party of expediency with the ?ends justifying the means?.  I thought that was somebody 
else!!!
 
Warner S. Bloomberg III joined the GPCA as a disaffected Democrat in 1994 
and served four years as a County Council Member of the Green Party of Santa 
Clara County.  He also served four 
years as the Coordinator of the Campaign and Candidates Working Group and served 
four years as 
a GPCA Delegate to the GPUS Party National Committee.  He also served over a year on the GPCA 
Coordinating Committee, including twice on the Budget Committee, and resigned 
from the CC in 2012 in protest over the matters described above.  The opinions expressed are solely those 
of the writer, although they also may represent the opinions of at least other 
GPSCC members. 
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 17 18:09:33 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 18:09:33 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Bernie Sanders May Run for President in 2016"
Message-ID: <528976DD.5060907@earthlink.net>


"Americans are ready for a populist message like his, senator says"

"The Burlington (VT) Free Press reports that Sanders may run if no one 
else with progressive views takes the plunge."

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/17
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20131115/NEWS03/311150043/Sanders-wants-progressive-2016-presence

Gerry


From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Sun Nov 17 22:16:50 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:16:50 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Bernie Sanders May Run for President in 2016"
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References: <528976DD.5060907@earthlink.net>
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"No one else with progressive views", uh Dr. Jill Stein is not chopped
liver, ehem.  Of course what is really meant is if no progressive Democrat
(namely Kucinich, and there are very few others that would fit that bill).

So we (very likely with Dr. Jill Stein) will be running against Sanders.

Green is GO!

Drew

> "Americans are ready for a populist message like his, senator says"
>
> "The Burlington (VT) Free Press reports that Sanders may run if no one
> else with progressive views takes the plunge."
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/17
> http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20131115/NEWS03/311150043/Sanders-wants-progressive-2016-presence
>
> Gerry
> _______________________________________________
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 17 22:59:42 2013
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:59:42 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Impressions from Santa Rosa
Message-ID: <BAY177-W131B0CE26BB75433AB55A99EE40@phx.gbl>

I met some nice people I'd like to see again, saw some faces I've seen elsewhere but couldn't quite place.

It was great to see some young people who seem enthusiastic about the Greens.

I'll suppose that most of the CC members who voted for Mike's coup were there.  It seemed the consensus
was that expediency trumped legality--which much disappointed me because I've seen the Republicans  and the Democrats both corrupted by that ethic since 9/11.

What's occurring to me now is who didn't show up.  None of the NorCal celebrities showed up except Sanda and Marnie.  Barry Hermanson did a cameo teach-in about signature-gathering strategies at a Campaigns working group. Nancy Mancias appeared in the "bar room" and soon left.  Marnie didn't 
stay long.  Richmond, Fairfax, and Humboldt County appear to have been no-shows.  

Brian 


 		 	   		  
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 23:35:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [sanjosepeacecenter] Film "Gasland Part 2" with
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Mon Nov 18 21:00:24 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:00:24 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Luis Rodriguez Candidate Statement @ Green Party of
 California General Assembly
Message-ID: <164496b38410b384bc57f5bdbe28e3a2.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [gpca-grow] Luis Rodriguez Candidate Statement @ Green Party of
California General Assembly
From:    "Edy Alvarez" <valleycollegegreens at msn.com>
Date:    Mon, November 18, 2013 2:23 pm
To:      "gpca-grow at cagreens.org" <gpca-grow at cagreens.org>
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCUguceh-io

Website: Rodriguezforgovernor.org
Facebook: Luis Rodriguez for California



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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Mon Nov 18 21:20:19 2013
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:20:19 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Derek's AlJazeera interview today
Message-ID: <8c4f6b29af4339173fdfbb8384954558.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [dagreenparty] Derek's AlJazeera interview today
From:    "Drew" <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net>
Date:    Mon, November 18, 2013 6:16 pm
To:      "dagreenparty" <dagreenparty at lists.riseup.net>
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: My AlJazeera interview today
To: DerekT at RiseUp.net
Date:    Mon, November 18, 2013 4:29 pm
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Hi!
Following our March to Heal the Valley last month, we decided on a program
of *Moral Mondays* during which, on the third Monday of the month, we
would gather at the entrance to Apple World Headquarters over the lunch
hour and ask that Apple begin to pay a fair share of taxes to help those
in our county who need help. I did two radio interviews for broadcast
today about our event, KGO and KCBS, and an interview with AlJazeera as
part of a documentary they are making about a security guard struggling to
live in this high-cost location on what is barely more than the minimum
wage.
I recorded audio of two of the interviews on my *Samsung* phone.? I make
that distinction, as the interview you can hear makes reference to that in
the very beginning (the interviewer mentions she has an Apple phone). She
also mentions my shoes, which are Vibram Five Fingers, the T-shirt I wear
that says *I May Be Illegal* to spark a conversation about racism, and the
small model tent I bring to these events: it is about a foot high and a
foot across, made for camping displays. Here I present the Aljazeera
interview. The interview starts in earnest at the 3 minute mark.
http://derekjoetennant.net/aljazeera%2018nov.wav

D
www.derekjoetennant.net

Each day the first day.
Each day a life.
Each morning we must hold out the chalice of our being
to receive, to carry, and give back.
It must be held out empty?
for the past must only be reflected
in its polish, its shape, its capacity.

Dag Hammarskj?ld, 1956


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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Nov 18 23:29:11 2013
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 23:29:11 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Funeral
Message-ID: <528B1347.6090603@aceweb.com>

Peggy Lewis, who was a significant Sacramento Green for a long time, has 
died.
There is a memorial service of some type Thursday at 2 PM in Antioch. 
Anyone want to go?
I'd love to, but I don't have wheels. I suppose if I can't find anything 
I'm going to find a way
to get there by transit, but I'd love to have company....

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest addition: pictures and words from EBBP's Mario Brothers Ride.
There is a New Mexico flag on a pair of Hawaii quarters in my home.




From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Nov 19 10:53:26 2013
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:53:26 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: TODAY! Build Democracy,
	End Corporate Rule Campaign Kickoff
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Date: 	Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:45:48 +0000
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From fredtyoshida at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 19 11:36:20 2013
From: fredtyoshida at yahoo.com (fred yoshida)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:36:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [dagreenparty] Luis Rodriguez Candidate Statement
	@ Green Party of California General Assembly
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Drew-? Thanks for the information on Luis Rodrigues for Governor.? All those interested there is a meeting tonight November 19th regarding the move to amend at 6:45 at the Laborers Union Local 270 Hall at 509 Emory Street in San Jose.? Speakers include MTA leader David Cobb, State Senator Jim Beall, and City Council member Ash Kalra go to http://www.scc-mta.org/?for more information.
?
Thanks and go Green,? ? Fred Yoshida



On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:34 AM, Drew <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net> wrote:
  
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [gpca-grow] Luis Rodriguez Candidate Statement @ Green Party of
California General Assembly
From:? ? "Edy Alvarez" <valleycollegegreens at msn.com>
Date:? ? Mon, November 18, 2013 2:23 pm
To:? ? ? "gpca-grow at cagreens.org" <gpca-grow at cagreens.org>
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCUguceh-io

Website: Rodriguezforgovernor.org
Facebook: Luis Rodriguez for California



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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed Nov 20 11:23:54 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:23:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpca-forum] Fw: Dec. 4th: Statewide Mobilization
	to Fight Jail Expansion
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: [gpca-forum] Fw: Dec. 4th: Statewide Mobilization to Fight Jail Expansion
  
 
While I have my doubts about the viability of the GPCA due to the internal issues never being dealt with honestly, here is a current action by an organization that is doing the work that the Green Party should be doing.

Peace,

Will Yeager

  


 
  
Click here to RSVP 
? ? ???    Dear?Will ,? 
On?December 4th, Sheriffs throughout the state will be begging the Board of State and Community Corrections for millions of dollars to build more cages for our children.?Come to Sacramento and help us show that communities across the state are united: No New Jails!
 
Over 33 of California's 58 counties have plans to build new jails.? While some of them claim to be reformers, we know we won't be able to pass sentencing reform or bring our loved ones home unless we stop building cages. These projects put our counties in fiscal jeopardy, and steal resources from the life-affirming programs and services that get people out of jail and keep them out.? 
What happens December 4th will determine whether counties build new jails or reduce their jail populations.
 
But, as usual, what they aren't counting on is us. We're going to pack the hearing room with as many activists as we can possibly mobilize. 
  
Where:?Board of State and Community Corrections (BSCC),?660 Bercut Drive,?Sacramento 
When:Wed. Dec 4th, hearing starting at 9am, rally at 1pm, lobby visits in the afternoon. 
 
These new jails will be around for decades to come - which means, in the words of a seasoned activist, that?they're building cages for young people whose parents haven't even been born yet.? 
See you in Sacramento!
  
 Emily Harris
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 20 14:36:06 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:36:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: We just stopped a War,
	now how about that War Budget?
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:37 PM
Subject: We just stopped a War, now how about that War Budget?
 


 
?
Take action today!
Tell Congressto support a Budget for People, Peace and the Planet. 
Cut the bloated military budget - Meet dire needs at home - Reinvest in our future

On December 13th, Congress will wrap up a vital round of Budget negotiations. They?re poised to further slash already devastated services and programs across the country, while continuing to spend $1 trillion a year on war and militarism. 

After $5 trillion dollars and a decade spent on bloody military excess in the Middle East, with no real gains for democracy, security or stability. Just as the American people said no to the US bombing Syria...
?
- We?re saying enough is enough-

The Green Shadow Cabinethas joined with several organizations to call for a 25%-50% cut to military spending to meet neglected, urgent needs at home, including:
	* Adequately funding critical social needs, including food stamps, Social Security, improved and expanded Medicare for all, and public education including
college,
	* Creating a full employment public jobs program to jump start thegreen economy- making wars for oil obsolete and rescuing our climate future, and
	* Rebuilding vital infrastructure.
In addition, today we?re launching a petition to build public support for a Budget for People, Peace and the Planet, which will be delivered with the open letter to Congress and the White House on the 10th of December. Join the campaign by signing the petition, and join us in Washington DC on the 10th.??? ??? ????????
- Sign the petition here-
Thank you.
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 20 14:39:52 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:39:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Mother. Hero. Prisoner.
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Jasmine at Amnesty International USA <alerts at takeaction.amnestyusa.org>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: Mother. Hero. Prisoner.
 


Human Rights Action - Amnesty International USA 
 
     
 Yorm Bopha fought to protect other people?s right to housing. Now help get her home.  



 
?Since she?s been in prison, it?s like the warmth has gone. It?s like we?ve lost part of our body ? our right arm.? Yorm Bopha?s husband, Sakhorn.

Yorm Bopha is a Cambodian activist who peacefully but vocally challenged the local authorities and developers who were tearing her community apart. She is wife to Sakhorn and mother to Lyhour. And she is a prisoner in a Phnom Penh jail, convicted on false charges in order to keep her quiet.

Yorm Bopha has an appeal hearing this Friday, which could be her last chance for release. Act now to help get this courageous activist home. 

   
Dear John,

Yorm Bopha is an inspiring person.

She took up a microphone and led local activists - most of whom are women - in resistance. She knew there were risks, but she did it for her community, her family and their future.

Help Get Yorm Bopha home so she can continue to defend her community's right to housing.

First the authorities began to threaten and harass Yorm Bopha. Then, in September 2012, she was arrested for planning an assault on two men.

Despite the lack of evidence linking her to the attack, she was convicted last December of "intentional violence with aggravating circumstances," and is serving a three-year sentence. She shares a cramped cell she with several other women. The prison rations are so poor that she relies on the food her family and community members bring her each week. Her hearing this Friday may be her last chance of release.

?All I can think about is my mom. I want her to come out of prison quickly, to come home.' Yorm Bopha's son, Lyhour.

Yorm Bopha is being held unjustly - help get her home.

While Yorm Bopha is in prison, her family is suffering. Husband Sakhorn says without her around, the warmth has gone from their lives. 

The heavy fine the family was forced to pay to her alleged victims has crippled them financially. With Sakhorn unable to work selling cloth due to ill health, their 10-year-old son Lyhour can no longer go to school. But he is inspired by his mom's activism and following in her footsteps by joining community marches for her release.

Join Sakhorn, Lyhour and their neighbors in Cambodia - sign our petition to call for Yorm Bopha's release.

We asked Sakhorn what your support would mean to him and Lyhour, and he told us: ?It brings hope that my wife can be released... It shows us justice could exist.'

Please show that justice is possible- and help get Yorm Bopha home.

Thank you,

Jasmine Heiss
Individuals at Risk Campaigner
Amnesty International USA

P.S. Yorm Bopha's case is one of several in Amnesty's 2013 Write for Rights campaign. During Write for Rights, activists like you join together to keep mailing letters, tweeting, sending urgent emails - for as long as it takes to bring Yorm Bopha, and others like her, home. Sign up to Write for Rights!


     
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 20 18:04:30 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:04:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: John,
	a federal agency is considering undoing some of the harm in
	Citizen's United. Add your name to our petition.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: Fw: John, a federal agency is considering undoing some of the harm in Citizen's United. Add your name to our petition.
 


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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:40 PM
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John, Citizens United was one of the Supreme Court?s worst decisions ever, but it will take a constitutional amendment to undo it completely?a huge undertaking that will take years to accomplish.

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Wed Nov 20 18:14:35 2013
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:14:35 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda for GPSCC Meeting Thursday Nov 21st
 -- Please Comment
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Hello, All:  Below please find information on the Standing General 
Assembly (SGA) items currently under consideration.  Tomorrow evening, 
we need to decide how Santa Clara County's SGA delegates should vote on 
these items. From my perspective, the decision on all but one of the 
seven items is fairly obvious.  For Governor, we have a choice of 
whether to endorse Deacon Alexander or Luis Rodriguez, either, or both 
in what order.


Spencer


On 11/14/2013 7:30 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>
> *G**REENPARTYOF SANTACLARACOUNTY*
>
> DraftAgendaforMonthlyGeneralMeeting
>
> November 21,2013
>
> San JosePeaceandJusticeCenter,
>
> 48South7thStreet,San Jose,CA
>
> (Between Santa ClaraandSan Fernando)
>
> 7:00pm -- Eat andchat (No speaker announced at time of preparation of 
> this draft agenda)
>
> 7:30pm -- Beginmeeting
>
> SelectFacilitator,Note taker,Time keeper,andVibes 
> watcher(s);SelectAgendaPreparerfor next meeting;Affirmor 
> modifydraftagenda(5 Minutes)
>
> IntroductionsandAnnouncements(10Minutes)
>
> Treasurer'sReport-- JimDoyle(5 minutes)
>
> Report on status of P. O. Box -- Continued from September meeting -- 
> Tian Harter
>
> (5 minutes)
>
> Report on November 16-17^th Santa Rosa GPCA Plenary --
>
> Plenary Delegates (20Minutes)
>
> Discussion and Proposal to Instruct GPSCC Standing General Assembly 
> Delegates re voting for GPCA endorsements of state office candidates 
> -- Spencer Graves (15 minutes)
>
> Notes:Current plans are for SGA delegates to vote on GPCA endorsement 
> of GPCA state office candidates during the week immediately following
>
> the Plenary.This meeting will be the last GPSCC general meeting before
>
> the voting period ends November 24th.The GPSCC SGA delegates are:
>
> Jim Doyle, Drew Johnson, John Thielking, Betsy Wolf-Graves and Spencer 
> Graves.
>


ID 31 - Election: Coordinating Committee, one female seat, November 2013 
- June 2015:  There is only one candidate:  Margaret Elysia Garcia 
(www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/garcia). 
The options are her, "No other candidate", write in, or abstain.  I 
recommend we vote for her.


ID 32 - Election: Coordinating Committee, one male seat, November 2013 - 
June 2015:  There is only one candidate:  Shamako Noble 
(www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/noble 
<http://www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/noble>). 
The options are as before.  I recommend we vote for him.


ID 33 - GPCA position on California Cannabis Hemp Initiative 2014: The 
options are to endorse, take no position, oppose, or abstain.  I 
recommend we vote first to endorse and second for no position.


ID 34 - GPCA endorsement for Governor in June 2014 primary election:  
There are two candidates:  Deacon Alexander 
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-deacon-alexander-governor 
<http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-deacon-alexander-governor>) 
and Luis Rodriguez 
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-luis-rodriguez-governor 
<http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-luis-rodriguez-governor>). 
We have five SGA delegates, and we can instruct them to vote 
differently.  In this case, my inclination is to instruct 3 of our 
delegate to vote for Rodriguez first and Alexander second and the other 
2 delegates to vote the opposite.  However, I could easily be persuaded 
otherwise.


       * Longer term, I think we should work to recruit exactly one 
candidate to run for different offices while coordinating with other 
third parties under a slogan like, "Vote -- but not for bribery."


       * For next year, what do you think about working with the League 
of Women Voters and other third parties to organize a series of debates 
for offices that rarely get much attention in the media these days?  I 
think we can help build the party and generate more interest in the 
primary -- and our candidates -- by helping organize such debates.  We 
need also a good outreach program, notifying the media of the events, 
inviting all candidates for a given office, using an empty chair for any 
who do not show, and using on-line resources like "Ballotopedia" to 
summarize the kind of people who should vote for each candidate or 
initiative.


ID 35 - GPCA endorsement for Secretary of State in June 2014 primary 
election:  One candidate:  David Curtis 
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-david-curtis-secretary-state)


ID 36 - GPCA endorsement for Treasurer in June 2014 primary election:  
One candidate:  Ellen Brown 
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-ellen-brown-treasurer) 



ID 37 - GPCA endorsement for Controller in June 2014 primary election:  
Laura Wells 
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-laura-wells-controller) 




> Proposal regarding GPSCC endorsements of local candidates -- Spencer 
> Graves (15 minutes) -- Continued from October meeting; see text of 
> proposal following these agenda proposals
>
> Health Care Committee Report -- (10Minutes)
>
> Environment Committee Report --(10 Minutes)
>
> Report from Jr. Statesman November 16^th (5 Minutes)
>
> Discussionofstatusoftablingsupplies-- (10 Minutes)
>
> Plan forTabling-- Need to identify event coordinators -- (15Minutes)
>
> Downtown Health Fair October 25th
>
> Holiday Peace Fair December 14^th
>
> Others?
>
> Proposal re GPSCC blog -- Spencer Graves
>
> (10 Minutes)Continued from October Meeting; see text proposal below
>
>
> (2HoursEstimatedCumulativeTimes.Goal:Adjournby 9:30pm)
>
> ###
>
> Spencer Graves Proposal re GPSCC local candidates endorsements.Prop 14 
> has in essence transformed the primary into the only election for 
> minor parties.We can appear on the general election ballot only if we 
> come in first or second in the primary.That strongly encourages minor 
> parties to coordinate with one another to the maximum extent that 
> their membership will allow.We cannot control which candidates pull 
> papers and file to run, but we can control endorsements and 
> recruitment of candidates to file papers.There was discussion of this 
> in the email list of the GPCA Standing General Assembly 
> <gpca-votes at cagreens.org>.Sanda Everette indicated there have already 
> been contacts between the statewide Coordinating Committee of the 
> California Greens and representatives of Peace and Freedom and 
> Libertarian parties.Sanda said, "We were hoping that there could be a 
> full statewide slate with candidates running from the three parties 
> and no one competing with another third party candidate."
>
> RESOLUTION:The Green Party of Santa Clara County will attempt to 
> contact other minor parties in Santa Clara County, attend their 
> meetings, and invite them to ours for the following purposes:
>
> 1.The Santa Clara Greens will agree to endorse candidates of other 
> minor parties for races where we do not have our own candidate."Minor 
> parties" in this case will refer primarily to the Peace and Freedom 
> and the Libertarian parties.
>
> 2.The Santa Clara Greens will attempt to coordinate with other minor 
> parties to develop joint procedures for recruiting candidates to run 
> for offices in a way that can maximize our chances of winning.
>
> Spencer Graves Proposal re GPSCC blog.
>
> PROPOSED:The Santa Clara Greens will authorize the creation of a blog 
> on its web site.The party will elect at least two blog editors.At 
> least one editor (different from the author) must approve any text 
> posted as a blog.All blogs must be consistent with the ten key values 
> and be labeled as the opinion of the author and not necessarily a 
> position of the Green Party of Santa Clara County.Also, claims that 
> might be controversial should be justified with a footnote giving a 
> reference to an appropriate source with not links when appropriate web 
> sites are available.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed Nov 20 22:16:41 2013
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:16:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda for GPSCC Meeting Thursday Nov 21st
	-- Please Comment
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We are probably? going to need somewhere around ten minutes for the Peace Fair.
Caroline
 

________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: WB4D23 at aol.com; Sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda for GPSCC Meeting Thursday Nov 21st -- Please Comment
  


Hello, All:? Below please find information on the Standing General Assembly (SGA) items currently under consideration.? Tomorrow evening, we need to decide how Santa Clara County's SGA delegates should vote on these items.? From my perspective, the decision on all but one of the seven items is fairly obvious.? For Governor, we have a choice of whether to endorse Deacon Alexander or Luis Rodriguez, either, or both in what order.? 


Spencer 


On 11/14/2013 7:30 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
 
GREENPARTYOF SANTACLARACOUNTY 
>DraftAgendaforMonthlyGeneralMeeting 
>November 21,2013 
>San JosePeaceandJusticeCenter, 
>48South7thStreet,San Jose,CA  
>(Between Santa ClaraandSan Fernando) 
>? 
>7:00pm ? Eat andchat (No speaker announced at time of preparation of this draft agenda) 
>7:30pm ? Beginmeeting 
>? 
>SelectFacilitator,Note taker,Time keeper,andVibes watcher(s);SelectAgendaPreparerfor next meeting;Affirmor modifydraftagenda(5 Minutes) 
>? 
>IntroductionsandAnnouncements(10Minutes) 
>? 
>Treasurer?sReport? JimDoyle(5 minutes)  
>? 
>Report on status of P. O. Box ? Continued from September meeting ? Tian Harter  
>(5 minutes) 
>? 
>Report on November 16-17th Santa Rosa GPCA Plenary ?  
>Plenary Delegates (20Minutes)  
>? 
>Discussion and Proposal to Instruct GPSCC Standing General Assembly ?Delegates re voting for GPCA endorsements of state office candidates ? ?Spencer Graves (15 minutes) 
>Notes:? Current plans are for SGA delegates to vote on GPCA endorsement of GPCA state office candidates during the week immediately following  
>the Plenary.? This meeting will be the last GPSCC general meeting before  
>the ?voting period ends November 24th.? The GPSCC SGA delegates are:?  
>Jim Doyle, Drew Johnson, John Thielking, Betsy Wolf-Graves and Spencer Graves.    

ID 31 - Election: Coordinating Committee, one female seat, November
    2013 - June 2015:? There is only one candidate:? Margaret Elysia
    Garcia
    (www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/garcia).? The options are her, "No other candidate", write in, or abstain.? I recommend we vote for her.? 


ID 32 - Election: Coordinating Committee, one male seat, November
    2013 - June 2015:? There is only one candidate:? Shamako Noble (www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/noble).? The options are as before.? I recommend we vote for him.? 


ID 33 - GPCA position on California Cannabis Hemp Initiative 2014:?
    The options are to endorse, take no position, oppose, or abstain.? I
    recommend we vote first to endorse and second for no position.? 


ID 34 - GPCA endorsement for Governor in June 2014 primary
    election:? There are two candidates:? Deacon Alexander (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-deacon-alexander-governor) and Luis Rodriguez (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-luis-rodriguez-governor).? We have five SGA delegates, and we can instruct them to vote differently.? In this case, my inclination is to instruct 3 of our delegate to vote for Rodriguez first and Alexander second and the other 2 delegates to vote the opposite.? However, I could easily be persuaded otherwise.? 

???? 
????? * Longer term, I think we should work to recruit exactly one
    candidate to run for different offices while coordinating with other
    third parties under a slogan like, "Vote -- but not for bribery." 


????? * For next year, what do you think about working with the
    League of Women Voters and other third parties to organize a series
    of debates for offices that rarely get much attention in the media
    these days?? I think we can help build the party and generate more
    interest in the primary -- and our candidates -- by helping organize
    such debates.? We need also a good outreach program, notifying the
    media of the events, inviting all candidates for a given office,
    using an empty chair for any who do not show, and using on-line
    resources like "Ballotopedia" to summarize the kind of people who
    should vote for each candidate or initiative. ? 


ID 35 - GPCA endorsement for Secretary of State in June 2014 primary
    election:? One candidate:? David Curtis
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-david-curtis-secretary-state)


ID 36 - GPCA endorsement for Treasurer in June 2014 primary
    election:? One candidate:? Ellen Brown
    (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-ellen-brown-treasurer)? 


ID 37 - GPCA endorsement for Controller in June 2014 primary
    election:? Laura Wells
(www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-laura-wells-controller)? 




 
>? 
>Proposal regarding GPSCC endorsements of local candidates ? Spencer Graves (15 minutes) ? Continued from October meeting; see text of proposal following these agenda proposals 
>? 
>Health Care Committee Report ?? ?(10Minutes) 
>? 
>Environment Committee Report --? (10 Minutes) 
>? 
>Report from Jr. Statesman November 16th (5 Minutes) 
>? 
>Discussionofstatusoftablingsupplies? (10 Minutes)  
>? 
>Plan forTabling? Need to identify event coordinators -- (15Minutes)  
>Downtown Health Fair October 25th 
>Holiday Peace Fair December 14th 
>Others? 
>? 
>Proposal re GPSCC blog ? Spencer Graves  
>(10 Minutes)? Continued from October Meeting; see text proposal below  
> 
>? 
>(2HoursEstimatedCumulativeTimes.Goal:Adjournby 9:30pm) 
>? 
>### 
>? 
>?Spencer Graves Proposal re GPSCC local candidates endorsements.? Prop 14 has in essence transformed the primary into the only election for minor parties.? We can appear on the general election ballot only if we come in first or second in the primary.? That strongly encourages minor parties to coordinate with one another to the maximum extent that their membership will allow.? We cannot control which candidates pull papers and file to run, but we can control endorsements and recruitment of candidates to file papers.? There was discussion of this in the email list of the GPCA Standing General Assembly mailto:gpca-votes at cagreens.org.? Sanda Everette indicated there have already been contacts between the statewide Coordinating Committee of the California Greens and representatives of Peace and Freedom and Libertarian parties.? Sanda said, "We were hoping that there could be a full statewide slate with candidates running from the three parties and
 no one competing with another third party candidate."?  
>? 
>??????????? RESOLUTION:? The Green Party of Santa Clara County will attempt to contact other minor parties in Santa Clara County, attend their meetings, and invite them to ours for the following purposes: 
>? 
>????????????????? 1.? The Santa Clara Greens will agree to endorse candidates of other minor parties for races where we do not have our own candidate.? "Minor parties" in this case will refer primarily to the Peace and Freedom and the Libertarian parties. 
>? 
>??????????????? 2.? The Santa Clara Greens will attempt to coordinate with other minor parties to develop joint procedures for recruiting candidates to run for offices in a way that can maximize our chances of winning.?  
>? 
>Spencer Graves Proposal re GPSCC blog.?  
>? 
>??????????? PROPOSED:? The Santa Clara Greens will authorize the creation of a blog on its web site.? The party will elect at least two blog editors.? At least one editor (different from the author) must approve any text posted as a blog.? All blogs must be consistent with the ten key values and be labeled as the opinion of the author and not necessarily a position of the Green Party of Santa Clara County.? Also, claims that might be controversial should be justified with a footnote giving a reference to an appropriate source with not links when appropriate web sites are available.  
>? 
>?   
> 
>
>_______________________________________________
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-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: http://www.structuremonitoring.com/   
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 21 11:24:51 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:24:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] TPP set to destroy the Internet as we know it
Message-ID: <1385061891.52619.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hey - 

I just got this terrifying email from Demand Progress about something called the "Trans-Pacific Partnership" (TPP). 

Apparently the TPP would make SOPA-like Internet censorship the norm
 -- compromising the rights of internet users all over the world.  The 
US government has kept negotiations over the TPP completely secret. But 
WikiLeaks leaked a chapter from the proposal. And it's terrible news for
 internet freedom. 

Take a stand against SOPA-like Internet censorship. Say ?no? to the 
TPP: 
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/TPP3/?referring_akid=2396.298162.tZhBRa&source=taf 

Over the past two years, we've defeated SOPA and its look-alike 
bills time and time again. We stood up and said: We don?t want 
censorship. We don't want ISPs shutting off internet connections or 
blocking websites. We don't want our private data shared with copyright 
trolls. We don't want infringement accusations with no due process. 

But the TPP contains all of these provisions and more. They?ve 
realized they can?t pass SOPA through the democratic process -- because 
the people don?t want it -- so they're using the secret treaty process 
to pass it by other means. 

The world's governments are trying to circumvent the public to 
destroy Internet freedom. We have to fight back: 
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/TPP3/?referring_akid=2396.298162.tZhBRa&source=taf 

They thought they could keep it all secret until the very last 
minute, and then force Congress to approve the treaty with no debate, no
 public oversight, and no amendments. 

We know what they're trying to do and we can stop them. WikiLeaks 
has taken the first step. A loud public outcry is the only thing that 
can throw a wrench in their plans to implement SOPA-like censorship 
worldwide. But we need to act now -- before it's too late. 

Click here to tell Congress: reject the TPP -- while there's still 
time: 
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/TPP3/?referring_akid=2396.298162.tZhBRa&source=taf 

Thanks.

Sincerely,

John Thielking
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Nov 22 08:53:46 2013
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:53:46 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Time change for Dec. 9 Rally in San Jose -
	Important!
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Time change for Dec. 9 Rally in San Jose - Important!
Date: 	Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:15:18 -0700
From: 	Javier Padilla, Restore the Delta <javier at restorethedelta.org>



Dear Restore the Delta Supporter,
Please make note of the time change for the DECEMBER 9th Rally in San Jose.

Say NO to the Tunnels Rally
December 9th, _11am-1pm_
Santa Clara Valley Water Board
5700 Almaden Expressway, San Jose

Board workshop starts at 9am: "Local Costs and Benefits" to Santa Clara 
Valley Water District
/**Public comments encouraged**/

Secretary John Laird of California Natural Resources will be making a 
presentation in favor of the BDCP/tunnels; our purpose will be to show 
the board that the BDCP is a bad idea financially.
*The other rallies are still as scheduled, on (please see previous email 
for more information):*

  * December 13th at the Capitol (Sacramento) at/11:30AM./

and,

  * December 17th march in _Los Angeles_ at /12PM./


Please let us know if you can commit to any of these dates by replying 
to this e-mail or calling (209) 475-9550, and the best way to contact 
you on short notice, as these events can change dates./*These events are 
a surprise; we are organizing an orderly and legal counter presence to 
the peripheral tunnels.*/
Thank you, once again.
---------------
Javier Padilla - Volunteer Coordinator
10100 Trinity Parkway, Suite 120
Stockton, CA 95219
(209) 475-9550


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From perrysandy at aol.com  Fri Nov 22 12:06:18 2013
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:06:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOOD MARGARET FLOWERS LETTER
Message-ID: <8D0B5D570AC8B02-964-5B594@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com>


It is important to avoid the trap of getting dragged into defending Obamacare. Sandy

Open letter to MoveOn: Time to change course on Obamacare 
November19, 2013
MargaretFlowers, Secretary of Health
Dear MoveOn,
It is with great sadness that I watch youmaking last-gasp desperate attempts to save Obamacare and Obama?s reputation.You look foolish when you say that ?Of course, it?s a good law? at the sametime as your constituents see through the Obamacare illusion.  The law is becoming less popularbecause people are beginning to see through the false partisan claims ofDemocrats.  And worse, you are actually playing right into theRepublican?s trap, really the trap of Wall Street and big business interests.
It?s time for honesty. Obamacare is policythat has roots in the Nixon administration, was updated by the HeritageFoundation, a Right-wing think tank, and supported by people like NewtGingrich. It was first put in place by Republican Governor Mitt Romney inMassachusetts (where it has not worked). The ACA further privatizes our healthcare by pouring hundreds of billions of public dollars into the pockets ofprivate health industries. It is accelerating the privatization of our publichealth insurances, gutting our safety net and fomenting greater consolidationof our health delivery system into private hands. It sets the stage tocompletely privatize the pillars of the old Democratic Party: Social Securityand Medicare.
Obamacare is the opposite of single payer.And supermajorities of those who vote for Democrats support single payer,Medicare for All. This is one of the reasons that people are not in the streetsto save it. In this time of health care crisis in which 80 million went withoutneeded care last year because of the cost and 4 million families went bankruptbecause of medical costs and illness over the past two years, why do you thinkit is so hard to sell them on Obamacare? Because it is the opposite of whatpeople want and need.
Yes, Obamacare is failing. It?s just amatter of time before the complex, bureaucratic, insurance-based law collapses.It may limp along for years as the government throws hundreds of billions ofmore dollars into it and the Department of Health and Human Services continuesto cave in to every health industry demand, but eventually it will fall underthe burden of its insurance-based corruption, for-profit healthcare and waste.
And what will we have then? The Republicanswill sing the song of Wall Street to the far corners of the country thatgovernment can?t do anything right and they?ll have Obamacare as their posterchild. Your constituents will feel even more betrayed than they do now by thesold-out Democrats who sided with corporate interests instead of their voters.The health reform vacuum will be filled by deregulation of the healthindustries and the end of public health insurance.
The human cost of this result is thathealth care will be fully commoditized as a profit center rather than a publicgood. Only the wealthy will be able to afford care. Health professionals willbe slaves to the industry and forced to care for only the profitable patients.Preventable deaths and human suffering will be even greater than they are now.
Obamacare is not worth saving and morepeople are waking up to that fact. Don?t let yourself fall further behind thepeople on this issue. Poverty is growing in this country. Austerity measuresare being forced upon us. Real human suffering is the result. Now is the timeto be bold.
If the Democrats truly want to be incontrol again, if you want the people to rally behind your party, then you mustembrace a bold agenda now. It is time to do the right thing. Tell the truth.Put the blame where it belongs ? not on government but on the health industriesthat wrote the law to their advantage and are incapable of putting the needs ofthe people before their insatiable crusade for profits.
Tell the people that Obamacare is the wrongdirection. It is corporate-run healthcare. The Democrats tried to work withinthe current system, but now see that is impossible. It is time to join the restof the civilized world, including our neighbors to the North and South, whotreat healthcare not as a commodity but as the public good that it should be.
The Constitution clearly states that thegovernment may tax for the general welfare. Just as taxes pay for roads,schools, fire departments and more, what better use could we have for our taxesthan to invest them in solving our healthcare crisis, not through greedy healthcorporations but through our American institution, Medicare? The best path for the American people right now is to scrap Obamacare,immediately extend Medicare to every person and double social securitybenefits. This will create an economic stimulus effect not seen since the NewDeal.
Don?t miss this opportunity. During theDepression, it was the New Deal Democrats who stood up and did what was rightfor the people. The Democrats must do that again or become irrelevant. Thepeople will love the Democrats for this. They will rally to your side. And wewill be a stronger country for it.
Take control of the message and the policydebate now ? save Social Security and Medicare by expanding them. Save thepeople of America. Show the Right Wing that they are the fools for opposing alaw that came out of their camp and show the people that the Democrats arecapable of promoting policies that put public interests first.
It is time for a total remaking of theparty you have allied with and if that is not possible (and the corruption ofthe Democratic Party looks very deep, so it is probably impossible), it is timeto replace that party with one that really represents the people, not thecorporate interests.
~ MargaretFlowersMD, Serves as Secretary of Health in the General Welfare Branch of the GreenShadow Cabinet
 
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Fri Nov 22 16:28:16 2013
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:28:16 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC Minutes, Thursday Nov 21st
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Please post additions, corrections, comments, to this list.


7:30 meeting starts: SelectFacilitator,Note taker,Time keeper,andVibes 
watcher(s);SelectAgendaPreparerfor next meeting;Affirmor 
modifydraftagenda(5 Minutes)


facilitator:  Caroline


Note taker:  Spencer


time keeper:  Caroline


Vibes watcher:


agenda preparer for the next meeting:  Sandy

>> IntroductionsandAnnouncements(10Minutes)


Caroline Yacoub:


Andrea Dorey


Michael "Pirate" Mike Clift, occupirate at gmail.com, 
occupyveteranssanfrancisco.weebly.com
# OVSF (observer, bay area organizer, Veterans for Peace activist, 
visiting)


James D. Cartmill, occupy1Liberty at gmail.com, 
independentcitizenmedia.weebly.com
#ICM3 #OSFTV #occupySFTV (independent journalist and freedom fighter, 
visiting -- independent citizen media)


        * Mike & James are carrying a Veterans for Peace (VFP) flag 
across America for peace and to eliminate veterans' homelessness.


Brian Good


Sandy Perry -


Spencer Graves

>> Treasurer'sReport-- JimDoyle(5 minutes)


Holiday Peace Fair - Caroline Yacoub (10 minutes)


       2nd Saturday in December:

>> Report on status of P. O. Box -- Continued from September meeting -- 
>> Tian Harter
>> (5 minutes)
>> Report on November 16-17^th Santa Rosa GPCA Plenary --
>> Plenary Delegates (20Minutes)


Andrea:  If you are a candidate, you cannot be a spokesperson for the 
Green Party.


Brian (and Sandy):  Brian went to Candidate & Campaign working group.  
Barry _______ gave a pitch to the working group but spent little time 
with the Plenary otherwise.  He gave a good pitch about calling people 
to getting signatures for the gubernatorial and other statewide 
candidates.  He suggested getting a list from the Secretary of State.  
The forms for that will be sent to us  on Dec. 28 -- will be on-line at 
the Green Party web site.  Must organize the effort:  Must collect 
10,000 signatures between Dec. 27 and Feb. 20.  (Sandy)


       The final item was Mike's proposal, but Brian couldn't understand 
it.


Sandy:  Finance Group.  + Issues group.  They want a Green Shadow 
Cabinet for the State.  One guy promoted Community Choice Aggregation.  
Plenary votes:  Warner's objections regarding the agenda were overruled.

>> Discussion and Proposal to Instruct GPSCC Standing General Assembly 
>> Delegates re voting for GPCA endorsements of state office candidates 
>> -- Spencer Graves (15 minutes)
>> Notes:Current plans are for SGA delegates to vote on GPCA endorsement 
>> of GPCA state office candidates during the week immediately following
>> the Plenary.This meeting will be the last GPSCC general meeting before
>> the voting period ends November 24th.The GPSCC SGA delegates are:
>> Jim Doyle, Drew Johnson, John Thielking, Betsy Wolf-Graves and 
>> Spencer Graves.


SUMMARY:  There is only one option for each of items 31-33 and 35-37.  
Those options all seem sensible, and the group agreed to instruct our 
SGA delegates to vote for that option.  Item 34 was candidates for 
Governor.  People had questions and concerns about both candidates.  
There was a consensus for letting the SGA delegates decide for 
themselves, with a suggestion to perhaps vote first for Rodriguez, 
second for nobody, and third for Alexander. Alexander got such poor 
support, because someone said he had officially run before but had not 
campaigned:  If you are going to ask people to spend time collecting 
signatures to get your name on the ballot, etc., you must campaign.

>
> ID 31 - Election: Coordinating Committee, one female seat, November 
> 2013 - June 2015:  There is only one candidate:  Margaret Elysia 
> Garcia 
> (www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/garcia 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/garcia>). 
> The options are her, "No other candidate", write in, or abstain.  I 
> recommend we vote for her.
>
>
> ID 32 - Election: Coordinating Committee, one male seat, November 2013 
> - June 2015:  There is only one candidate:  Shamako Noble 
> (www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/noble 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/committees/coordinating/election-bios/2013-11/noble>). 
> The options are as before.  I recommend we vote for him.
>
>
> ID 33 - GPCA position on California Cannabis Hemp Initiative 2014:  
> The options are to endorse, take no position, oppose, or abstain.  I 
> recommend we vote first to endorse and second for no position.
>
>
> ID 34 - GPCA endorsement for Governor in June 2014 primary election:  
> There are two candidates:  Deacon Alexander 
> (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-deacon-alexander-governor 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-deacon-alexander-governor>) 
> and Luis Rodriguez 
> (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-luis-rodriguez-governor 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-luis-rodriguez-governor>). 
> We have five SGA delegates, and we can instruct them to vote 
> differently.  In this case, my inclination is to instruct 3 of our 
> delegate to vote for Rodriguez first and Alexander second and the 
> other 2 delegates to vote the opposite.  However, I could easily be 
> persuaded otherwise.
>

Deacon Alexander ran before but did not run a campaign.


Luis Rodriguez at one time was trying to run as a candidate for both the 
Greens and Peace & Freedom.  Sandy will stand aside regarding Luis.  But 
we look bad if we don't have a candidate.


We let the SGA make up their own minds, prefer that at least some abstain.


All others:  We support the single option.

>
>       * Longer term, I think we should work to recruit exactly one 
> candidate to run for different offices while coordinating with other 
> third parties under a slogan like, "Vote -- but not for bribery."
>
>
>       * For next year, what do you think about working with the League 
> of Women Voters and other third parties to organize a series of 
> debates for offices that rarely get much attention in the media these 
> days?  I think we can help build the party and generate more interest 
> in the primary -- and our candidates -- by helping organize such 
> debates.  We need also a good outreach program, notifying the media of 
> the events, inviting all candidates for a given office, using an empty 
> chair for any who do not show, and using on-line resources like 
> "Ballotopedia" to summarize the kind of people who should vote for 
> each candidate or initiative.
>
>
> ID 35 - GPCA endorsement for Secretary of State in June 2014 primary 
> election:  One candidate:  David Curtis 
> (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-david-curtis-secretary-state 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-david-curtis-secretary-state>)
>
>
> ID 36 - GPCA endorsement for Treasurer in June 2014 primary election:  
> One candidate:  Ellen Brown 
> (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-ellen-brown-treasurer 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-ellen-brown-treasurer>) 
>
>
>
> ID 37 - GPCA endorsement for Controller in June 2014 primary 
> election:  Laura Wells 
> (www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-laura-wells-controller 
> <http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014/statewide-candidate-questionnaire-laura-wells-controller>) 
>
>
>
>
>> Proposal regarding GPSCC endorsements of local candidates -- Spencer 
>> Graves (15 minutes) -- Continued from October meeting; see text of 
>> proposal following these agenda proposals
>> Health Care Committee Report -- (10Minutes):


       There was a great Downtown Health Fair on Oct. 25 with Supv. 
Cortese.  Got many cards signed for HR 676.  The Board of Supervisors 
has been on record for a long time supporting Single Payer.  Simitian 
wants to rediscuss this endorsement of Single Payer.

>> Environment Committee Report --(10 Minutes)


       Derek (?) expressed concern about whether there may be some 
problems in 350.org.


       350.org has managed to mobilize people all over this planet.  
Caroline is very supportive of 350 Silicon Valley. Nobody is perfect.  
350 Silicon Valley has good people and many good ideas.

>> Report from Jr. Statesman November 16^th (5 Minutes)


        Caroline said this as the best attended Junior State in over 10 
years.  We had 3 tables: One was for making buttons.  That was the best 
table in the house, from Caroline's perspective.  One of the other 
tablers registered Green.  The kids weren't old enough to vote but asked 
good questions & wanted to talk.  There from 1:05 to after 5 PM.  Jim 
and John came.  Caroline ran the button machine.  Jr. State is the most 
fun.  $1 for a button -- made $42 (gave away 4 at the beginning).

>> Discussionofstatusoftablingsupplies-- (10 Minutes)


       Caroline needs help from Drew to find some of the tabling supplies.


       We need tabling materials on climate change.


       Brian can try to print Donkey fliers 
(www.cagreens.org/santaclara/resources/flyers/donkey.pdf 
<http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara/resources/flyers/donkey.pdf>)


       Caroline would also like something like 
"http://www.theguardian.com/environment/interactive/2013/nov/20/which-fossil-fuel-companies-responsible-climate-change-interactive". 
Brian will look into how to make a poster of this for Caroline.

>> Plan forTabling-- Need to identify event coordinators -- (15Minutes)


Sandy: Tabling weekly at DeAnza.  As of yesterday, there is now an 
official Green Party Club at DeAnza.


>> Downtown Health Fair October 25th
>> Holiday Peace Fair December 14^th
>> Others?
>> Proposal re GPSCC blog -- Spencer Graves
>> (10 Minutes)Continued from October Meeting; see text proposal below
>>
>> (2HoursEstimatedCumulativeTimes.Goal:Adjournby 9:30pm)
>> ###
>> Spencer Graves Proposal re GPSCC local candidates endorsements.Prop 
>> 14 has in essence transformed the primary into the only election for 
>> minor parties.We can appear on the general election ballot only if we 
>> come in first or second in the primary.That strongly 
>> encouragesparties other than the top two to coordinate with one 
>> another to the maximum extent that their membership will allow....


No.  We might negotiate cross endorsement with the Peace & Freedom 
party.  However the ideological gap with other parties (esp. 
Libertarians) is too great.


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:www.structuremonitoring.com

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 22 17:47:54 2013
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:47:54 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Common Dreams articles
In-Reply-To: <52900796.5040909@earthlink.net>
References: <52900796.5040909@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5290094A.8030708@earthlink.net>


Common Dreams has a number of articles on climate
change, too numerous to provide the individual links.
The headlines for the main page are

"Fracking-Friendly Bills Flourish as Industry Donations Skyrocket"
"No KXL, No Problem: Tar Sands Production Fast Expanding"

http://www.commondreams.org/


It also has a health care article:

"21 Ways the Canadian Health Care System is Better than Obamacare"
by Ralph Nader
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/11/22-1


And if you are concerned about NSA spying, there's:

"Who's Least Critical of NSA Spying? Democrats"
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/11/21-5


Gerry


From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 25 07:51:33 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:51:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Free Zulu Movement has sent you a message
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References: <52936e74dd76f_639d11b2884943f9@production-change-main-resque-08.mail>
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FYI


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 25 15:51:41 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:51:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Bank of America
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FYI.? Please sign and share. Thanks.


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To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: Bank of America
 


Change.org Responsive Template Baseline  
 
          
John - There's a new petition taking off on Change.org, and we think you might be interested in signing it:    
 
   
Bank of America: Stop refusing to accept my payment. Be a leader and help change this practice.    
By Rebekka Mackey   
Miami, Florida     
  Sign Rebekka's Petition       
I need help getting Bank of America to stop from taking my home. My situation is far too common, but not discussed. The law should be?fixed to prevent this from hurting anyone else.
My mama got sick almost 5 years ago and passed away just 2 weeks after we discovered she had cancer. At that time, she had a mortgage. I thought I was doing the right thing to call and inform the bank of her passing and letting them know that I would be assuming her $800 monthly mortgage payment. But I never should have told them.
From that point on, they absolutely refused to accept any payment. By law, as the heir, if I had tried to pay off the mortgage in full, they would have had to accept it, but if the heir can only afford to continue the payments, it is up to the bank's discretion as to whether or not they will accept payment, or foreclose on the home.
In my case, they chose to take my home. I tried everything..I tried paying over the phone, they refused. I tried sending in a check, they returned it. I begged and pleaded and screamed at them for 3 months. They didn't care. It was not until after they officially filed foreclosure that I understood why. This is when they called trying to arrange a deal, after I was backed into a corner with no way out.
This "deal" included higher interest and a higher payment (more than triple), which I just don't have the income to afford to agree to. It is a common "deal" they try to force on people who find themselves in my situation. I have not been able to grieve in all this time because my stomach has been so wound up in knots worried about my future, where I will go, what I will do.?The home?has been in my family since it was built. It is full of the memories I shared with my mom. This home is so much more to me than just a house.
I am not asking for a handout. All I want is for the bank to stop this foreclosure and let me pay the same $800 monthly mortgage payment my mama was paying. That is what I have been fighting for the whole time- the right to assume my mother's debt and pay it. My mama took the homeless and unwanted into her homes (she had 2, I already lost the other. The bank bought it at the foreclosure auction in September..it was used purely to take in folks down on their luck, and help them get back on their feet, housing as many as 11 people at a time).
Since her passing, I have done the same. Now I am the one seeking out someone who will take me in, and it's for no good reason. It is purely because the bank got greedy and wanted more than what was originally agreed on. There are enough homeless disabled veteran's put out on the street, why add?two more for no?legitimate reason??Please help me put pressure on them to do the right thing. Please sign this petition.
The photo is of my mom and grandparents, the day they brought my mom home, to the house I am losing, for the first time in 1954.  
 
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From RainBeauFriend at RiseUp.net  Tue Nov 26 03:46:08 2013
From: RainBeauFriend at RiseUp.net (Drew)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:46:08 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-grow] Fwd: Press release on Green Party of
	California Endorsement of Luis J. Rodriguez for Governor
	(please use widely)
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From: luis j rodriguez
Date: Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Subject: Press release on Green Party of California Endorsement of Luis J.
Rodriguez for Governor (please use widely)


Luis 2014

Rodriguez

For Governor of California

__________________________________________________



For Immediate Release: November 25, 2013

Contact: Anthony D. Prince, 818-898-0013



*?Imagine a New California? ? The Green Party of California Endorses Luis
J. Rodriguez runs for Governor*



LOS ANGELES, CA ? The Green Party of California after a week of online
voting endorsed author and community leader Luis J. Rodriguez for governor
of California. Luis has embarked on a grassroots campaign, breaking new
ground by calling for the end of poverty. The campaign champions aligning
resources to meet needs by providing livable and meaningful work or income,
healthy and clean communities, free quality health care for all, the
overhaul of the criminal justice system, and ensuring arts, culture and
expression outlets in every neighborhood.



?This campaign is an imaginal poetic journey,? says Rodriguez. ?It must be
part of a movement for transformative and healing change that goes beyond
elections and campaigns. Yet we also aim to win.?



Luis J. Rodriguez has been socially and politically active in California
since the age of 16 when he was arrested during the August 29, 1970 Chicano
Moratorium Against the Vietnam War in East Los Angeles. Within three years,
he left gangs, drugs and a street life to become a leader, thinker and
organizer, working for urban peace, social justice, labor equity, and
immigrant rights. At 22, he ran for a Los Angeles Unified School District
board seat, impacting future races for progressives and people of color.
For the past 25 years, he?s also been a journalist, poet, fiction writer,
children?s book writer, lecturer, and essayist. He has 15 books in multiple
genres, including the bestselling?and often banned?memoir ?Always Running,
La Vida Loca, Gang Days in L.A.?



In 2012, the *L.A. Weekly* named Luis one of the 60 most fascinating people
in Los Angeles.



?We won?t accept corporate money or be part of the discredited two-party
system,? adds Rodriguez. ?This is an independent campaign that seeks the
endorsement of the Green Party, other independent electoral parties,
organizations, and individuals. The campaign strives to incorporate
visionary and practical leaders whose input and experiences stand to anchor
a statewide, ground up, movement for real solutions to real problems.?



For more on the Luis J. Rodriguez for Governor campaign, a website has been
created www.rodriguezforgovernor.org. Checks can be made out to ?Campaign
for Luis J. Rodriguez? and sent to PO Box 328, San Fernando CA 91341. For
more information, call 818-898-0013.


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 26 08:31:13 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:31:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: No Thanksgiving for Kmart workers
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To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:26 AM
Subject: No Thanksgiving for Kmart workers
 


  
The email below is from Justin Uebelhor, a CREDO activist in Chicago, Illinois. Justin started a petition on CREDO Mobilize, where activists can launch their own campaigns for progressive change. Will you help Justin pressure CEO Eddie Lampert to respect Kmart workers and let them spend Thanksgiving with family by signing his petition and sharing it with your friends and family?  

________________________________
  
Don't force Kmart workers to give up Thanksgiving.  

   
Dear John, 
Kmart recently announced that, unlike other retailers, it won't close on Thanksgiving or simply open for a few hours on Thursday afternoon--it's asking workers to give up the holiday entirely. Kmart is planning to open up stores at 6 a.m. on Thanksgiving Day and stay open for 41 hours straight. 
As a former Kmart employee, I was shocked to hear that my former co-workers would be forced to spend the holiday away from their families. That's why I started my own campaign on CREDOMobilize.com, which allows activists to start their own petitions. My petition, which is to Eddie Lampert, CEO of Kmart's parent company, Sears Holdings, says the following: 
Respect your workers and let them spend the holidays with their families. Cancel your plan to open Kmart on Thanksgiving.
Tell Sears Holdings' CEO: Let Kmart workers spend Thanksgiving with family. 
Thanksgiving isn't just the day before holiday shopping begins. It's a day when most Americans gather together with friends and family and give thanks -- some traveling thousands of miles just to celebrate the day with loved ones. 
I worked at a Kmart store in Indiana for more than five years throughout high school and college. Over that time I worked on a few Thanksgivings, but I lived close enough to my family that I still had a chance to spend time with them over the holidays. 
Many of my co-workers weren't so lucky -- with relatives traveling into town for the holidays, they lost precious time with their loved ones. Considerate managers would do their best to work with employees to be flexible, but that only goes so far when corporate policies put the bottom line before families. Now, Kmart's expanded hours on Thanksgiving make matters even worse -- stretching an already thin workforce even thinner -- and employees from around the country have found signs in their break rooms stating that no time-off requests will be accepted over the holiday. 
At Kmart, employees are asked to make sacrifices for hourly wages just above the minimum. My former coworkers worked long shifts on ever-changing schedules, rarely receiving enough hours to make ends meet. They shouldn't be strong-armed into working on Thanksgiving, as has been reported, and separated from their families.1 
In the midst of a nationwide groundswell of workers organizing for fair wages and better treatment at fast-food restaurants and retail stores, now is the perfect time to spotlight Kmart's treatment of its workers.  Let's have those workers' backs and build public pressure on Kmart's parent company, Sears Holdings, which has struggled financially and can't afford to lose customers to other stores over the holidays. 
Will you join me and add your name to my petition to Sears Holdings CEO Eddie Lampert to demand he respect workers and allow them to spend Thanksgiving with family? 
Thank you for your support. 
Justin Uebelhor    
1. Jillian Berman, "Another Kmart Sign Emerges Demanding Employees Work Holidays," Huffington Post, 11/08/13  

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 27 19:52:20 2013
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:52:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Pledge to Not Shop on Thanksgiving
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Subject: Pledge to Not Shop on Thanksgiving

Hi,

In retail, Thanksgiving and Christmas Day are the only two holidays that workers traditionally receive. Now that many stores are choosing to open on Thanksgiving, that break is being taken away, denying retail workers the rare opportunity to spend a holiday with their families. And most of these workers are only being paid minimum wage for their trouble. 
?
A holiday should not be a luxury for the rich ? all workers deserve time to spend with loved ones.

That's why I signed a petition to Retail CEOs.

Will you sign this petition? Click here:

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/pledge-to-not-shop-on?source=s.em.cp&r_by=913001

Thanks!

John Thielking
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From wrolley at charter.net  Sat Nov 30 07:54:56 2013
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 07:54:56 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: FW: [sv4dean] rally against the Tunnels this
	coming Monday
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Please pay attention to this and attend if you can.   A long time ago, 
the Green Party CA co-sponsored the first public organizing meeting for 
Restore the Delta.  That came from Green Issues Working Group.

I've worked with Dem. Swanee Edwards to get more people involved in our 
county.

Wes


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Subject: 	FW: [sv4dean] rally against the Tunnels this coming Monday
Date: 	Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:37:19 -0800
From: 	Swanee Edwards <swanee at garlic.com>
To: 	'Wes Rolley' <wrolley at charter.net>



Wes,

I will be downtown tomorrow for a Holiday event. Will be meeting with 
Dennis to talk about the Delta sometime during the afternoon. Our Club, 
The Loma Prieta Chapter of the Sierra Club and many more are helping to 
get the word out about this rally on Dec.9^th .

Ever Onward,

Swanee

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*Subject:* [sv4dean] rally against the Tunnels this coming Monday

/   The Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley is cosponsoring
a rally organized by Food and Water Watch and Restore the Delta
*Monday December 9,  11:00AM to 1:00PM*
*Santa Clara**Valley Water Board, 5700 Almaden Expwy, San Jose*/

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/This rally is to raise awareness about the proposal to build a new, 
environmentally destructive peripheral twin tunnel system, which is 
being discussed by our local water district's board of directors.
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