From peacemovies at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 08:44:10 2014 From: peacemovies at gmail.com (John Thielking) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:44:10 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 100% Gene Expression Is The Next Disaster On The GMO Front Message-ID: Hello, Things are going well for me in Eugene right now, if I don't include the latest tidbits from the Eugene Facebook group "GMOs: Separating the Hybrid Wheat from the rhetorical chaff". Below I have included some tidbits gleened from the discussion in that FB group. It doesn't look good for the home team. It all starts with an article published on the pbs web site, located here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/evolution/crispr-gene-drives/ In this article the authors are saying that the developers of a new fangled GMO technology are asking for input from stakeholders before they let their latest GMO technology escape into the wild. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to give feedback. There is no comments section on the pbs web site, no e-mail addresses for the authors and no specific institute mentioned that is promoting this new technology. Below I have pasted my comments about this article taken from my FB wall, along with a link to an article that talks about a letter that over 800 scientists have signed onto asking for a 5 year moratorium on the proliferation of GMOs. I'm sure that these scientists would also object to the 100% gene expression technique. Comments from FB: The people who want this and who want GMOs to proliferate think that this latest technique, which will cause 100% gene expression in subsequent generations instead of the current technology's 50% gene expression, is the ultimate solution. While the believers of Organics and labeling/banning of GMOs think that this technique is the ultimate problem, spelling disaster for Organics if it ever gets out into the wild and spreads GMO traits in the wild. The proponents of GMOs say that if Organics get contaminated with GMO gene expression (which they freely admit is possible through the mechanism of transferring say BT expression from a GMO crop to wild weeds and then back through the same mechanism in reverse to contaminate Organic crops) that they can simply do the reverse engineering process that is mentioned in the article and cancel out any proliferation of GMO traits in contaminated Organic crops. Well I say, that's BS. The Organic crop would not be genetically identical to the original after the contamination followed by the reversal, because the reversal would leave the Organic crop with a 100% expression of the "non-GMO" trait, something which up to that point had not occurred in nature. So I'm so sorry, but you just can't have it both ways. Either GMOs have to be banned worldwide or Organic crops will eventually (after 20-30 years or more) become cross-contaminated with GMO traits imported from wild weeds and the show will be over for the Organic movement. And, by the way, that 20-30 year estimate assumes that the current 50% gene expression technology is being used. If the 100% technique is used instead, then the time frame shrinks to 10 years or less, worldwide. Link to article about the 800 scientists (click on the "letter" link in the article to see the letter and the series of reports put out by the scientists). http://www.getholistichealth.com/40153/800-scientists-demand-global-gmo-experiment-end/ Good luck! Sincerely, John Thielking PS And a further slip down the GMO/label it ladder is revealed when reviewing the discussion I had with people in the FB group (which can be viewed by non members). It seems that some of the label it crowd (myself included) want to ban/destroy GMOs. But it is also true that the pro GMO side appears to have a few people who are against labeling who also want to destroy Organics. They are saying things like "some of the pesticides used on Organic crops are more hazardous to bees than Roundup" and things like that. It would be one thing if they were just being scientific like that statement suggests and railing against Organics. But they also say "so what" to the problem of cross contamination of Organics with GMO traits, saying that the Organic crops can be made whole by reversing the genetic engineering process that was mentioned above. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From peacemovies at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 20:03:21 2014 From: peacemovies at gmail.com (John Thielking) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 20:03:21 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 100% Gene Expression Is The Next Disaster On The GMO Front In-Reply-To: <1406996454.63450.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1406996454.63450.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I hope people get the significance of the difference (mathematically) between how much a particular gene is likely to proliferate in the wild with 50% expression per generation vs 100% expression per generation. In the case of 50% expression it is even possible that undesireable GMO traits will die out within a few generations due to natural selection and dilution. With the 100% expression method, there is no more dilution and the process of natural selection may not be as effective any longer. The difference is exponential, increasing by a factor of 2 every generation, until 10 years (10 generations) later you have 2 to the 10th power (1024 x) bigger a problem to deal with when 100% expression happens than with 50% expression. I hope people get that and also realize that if this new method becomes standardized for creating gmos it means game over for Organics. John Thielking On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Hey John, this went through. > > > On Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:44 AM, John Thielking < > peacemovies at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > Things are going well for me in Eugene right now, if I don't include the > latest tidbits from the Eugene Facebook group "GMOs: Separating the Hybrid > Wheat from the rhetorical chaff". Below I have included some tidbits > gleened from the discussion in that FB group. It doesn't look good for the > home team. > > It all starts with an article published on the pbs web site, located here: > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/evolution/crispr-gene-drives/ > > In this article the authors are saying that the developers of a new > fangled GMO technology are asking for input from stakeholders before they > let their latest GMO technology escape into the wild. Unfortunately, there > doesn't seem to be an easy way to give feedback. There is no comments > section on the pbs web site, no e-mail addresses for the authors and no > specific institute mentioned that is promoting this new technology. > > Below I have pasted my comments about this article taken from my FB wall, > along with a link to an article that talks about a letter that over 800 > scientists have signed onto asking for a 5 year moratorium on the > proliferation of GMOs. I'm sure that these scientists would also object to > the 100% gene expression technique. > > Comments from FB: > > The people who want this and who want GMOs to proliferate think that this > latest technique, which will cause 100% gene expression in subsequent > generations instead of the current technology's 50% gene expression, is the > ultimate solution. While the believers of Organics and labeling/banning > of GMOs think that this technique is the ultimate problem, spelling > disaster for Organics if it ever gets out into the wild and spreads GMO > traits in the wild. > > The proponents of GMOs say that if Organics get contaminated with GMO gene > expression (which they freely admit is possible through the mechanism of > transferring say BT expression from a GMO crop to wild weeds and then back > through the same mechanism in reverse to contaminate Organic crops) that > they can simply do the reverse engineering process that is mentioned in the > article and cancel out any proliferation of GMO traits in contaminated > Organic crops. Well I say, that's BS. The Organic crop would not be > genetically identical to the original after the contamination followed by > the reversal, because the reversal would leave the Organic crop with a 100% > expression of the "non-GMO" trait, something which up to that point had not > occurred in nature. So I'm so sorry, but you just can't have it both ways. > Either GMOs have to be banned worldwide or Organic crops will eventually > (after 20-30 years or more) become cross-contaminated with GMO traits > imported from wild weeds and the show will be over for the Organic movement. > > And, by the way, that 20-30 year estimate assumes that the current 50% > gene expression technology is being used. If the 100% technique is used > instead, then the time frame shrinks to 10 years or less, worldwide. > > Link to article about the 800 scientists (click on the "letter" link in > the article to see the letter and the series of reports put out by the > scientists). > > http://www.getholistichealth.com/40153/800-scientists-demand-global-gmo-experiment-end/ > > Good luck! > > Sincerely, > > John Thielking > > PS And a further slip down the GMO/label it ladder is revealed when > reviewing the discussion I had with people in the FB group (which can be > viewed by non members). It seems that some of the label it crowd (myself > included) want to ban/destroy GMOs. But it is also true that the pro GMO > side appears to have a few people who are against labeling who also want to > destroy Organics. They are saying things like "some of the pesticides used > on Organic crops are more hazardous to bees than Roundup" and things like > that. It would be one thing if they were just being scientific like that > statement suggests and railing against Organics. But they also say "so > what" to the problem of cross contamination of Organics with GMO traits, > saying that the Organic crops can be made whole by reversing the genetic > engineering process that was mentioned above. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mehmasarja at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 09:23:10 2014 From: mehmasarja at gmail.com (Mehmasarja) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:23:10 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 100% Gene Expression Is The Next Disaster On The GMO Front In-Reply-To: References: <1406996454.63450.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not knowing much about this I'm asking a question. If this can apply to the human race, here is the sequence of events I can see. First, we try to breed in disease resistance. Then we go for performance enhancement for the military, athletes, farm workers etc. Eventually we look at making people sterile to control certain populations in a war or as population control. The second point - isn't the control of diseases epi genetics I.e. Gene expression and not just genetics? Yudhvir > On Aug 2, 2014, at 8:03 PM, John Thielking wrote: > > I hope people get the significance of the difference (mathematically) between how much a particular gene is likely to proliferate in the wild with 50% expression per generation vs 100% expression per generation. In the case of 50% expression it is even possible that undesireable GMO traits will die out within a few generations due to natural selection and dilution. With the 100% expression method, there is no more dilution and the process of natural selection may not be as effective any longer. The difference is exponential, increasing by a factor of 2 every generation, until 10 years (10 generations) later you have 2 to the 10th power (1024 x) bigger a problem to deal with when 100% expression happens than with 50% expression. I hope people get that and also realize that if this new method becomes standardized for creating gmos it means game over for Organics. > > John Thielking > > >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Hey John, this went through. >> >> >> On Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:44 AM, John Thielking wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Things are going well for me in Eugene right now, if I don't include the latest tidbits from the Eugene Facebook group "GMOs: Separating the Hybrid Wheat from the rhetorical chaff". Below I have included some tidbits gleened from the discussion in that FB group. It doesn't look good for the home team. >> >> It all starts with an article published on the pbs web site, located here: >> >> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/evolution/crispr-gene-drives/ >> >> In this article the authors are saying that the developers of a new fangled GMO technology are asking for input from stakeholders before they let their latest GMO technology escape into the wild. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to give feedback. There is no comments section on the pbs web site, no e-mail addresses for the authors and no specific institute mentioned that is promoting this new technology. >> >> Below I have pasted my comments about this article taken from my FB wall, along with a link to an article that talks about a letter that over 800 scientists have signed onto asking for a 5 year moratorium on the proliferation of GMOs. I'm sure that these scientists would also object to the 100% gene expression technique. >> >> Comments from FB: >> >> The people who want this and who want GMOs to proliferate think that this latest technique, which will cause 100% gene expression in subsequent generations instead of the current technology's 50% gene expression, is the ultimate solution. While the believers of Organics and labeling/banning of GMOs think that this technique is the ultimate problem, spelling disaster for Organics if it ever gets out into the wild and spreads GMO traits in the wild. >> >> The proponents of GMOs say that if Organics get contaminated with GMO gene expression (which they freely admit is possible through the mechanism of transferring say BT expression from a GMO crop to wild weeds and then back through the same mechanism in reverse to contaminate Organic crops) that they can simply do the reverse engineering process that is mentioned in the article and cancel out any proliferation of GMO traits in contaminated Organic crops. Well I say, that's BS. The Organic crop would not be genetically identical to the original after the contamination followed by the reversal, because the reversal would leave the Organic crop with a 100% expression of the "non-GMO" trait, something which up to that point had not occurred in nature. So I'm so sorry, but you just can't have it both ways. Either GMOs have to be banned worldwide or Organic crops will eventually (after 20-30 years or more) become cross-contaminated with GMO traits imported from wild weeds and the show will be over for the Organic movement. >> >> And, by the way, that 20-30 year estimate assumes that the current 50% gene expression technology is being used. If the 100% technique is used instead, then the time frame shrinks to 10 years or less, worldwide. >> >> Link to article about the 800 scientists (click on the "letter" link in the article to see the letter and the series of reports put out by the scientists). >> http://www.getholistichealth.com/40153/800-scientists-demand-global-gmo-experiment-end/ >> >> Good luck! >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Thielking >> >> PS And a further slip down the GMO/label it ladder is revealed when reviewing the discussion I had with people in the FB group (which can be viewed by non members). It seems that some of the label it crowd (myself included) want to ban/destroy GMOs. But it is also true that the pro GMO side appears to have a few people who are against labeling who also want to destroy Organics. They are saying things like "some of the pesticides used on Organic crops are more hazardous to bees than Roundup" and things like that. It would be one thing if they were just being scientific like that statement suggests and railing against Organics. 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URL: From peacemovies at gmail.com Sun Aug 3 17:20:54 2014 From: peacemovies at gmail.com (John Thielking) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:20:54 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 100% Gene Expression Is The Next Disaster On The GMO Front In-Reply-To: References: <1406996454.63450.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good questions. The article gives the example of wiping out mosquitos by creating an imbalance in the sex ratio between male and female. That gene is not supposed to be transmitted to any other species, but that is only in theory. I can imagine a nightmare scenario where some bacteria gets ahold of this gene and spreads it who knows where. It won't affect the bacteria, but it could get implanted in other species that reproduce sexually. I'm also against the genetic engineering of a super race of humans. This topic was covered in the Star Trek TV series in the episode where Kahn was leading a colony of genetically enhanced humans, tried to take over the Enterprise and was marooned on a desert planet which he escaped from once again in Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn the movie. As to the second question, I'm not sure if I was using the exactly correct terms when describing gene expression vs propagation. I think what I'm talking about with the 100% thing is more properly referred to as propagation. Thanks for sharing your concerns. John Thielking On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Mehmasarja wrote: > Not knowing much about this I'm asking a question. If this can apply to > the human race, here is the sequence of events I can see. > > First, we try to breed in disease resistance. Then we go for performance > enhancement for the military, athletes, farm workers etc. Eventually we > look at making people sterile to control certain populations in a war or as > population control. > > The second point - isn't the control of diseases epi genetics I.e. Gene > expression and not just genetics? > > Yudhvir > > On Aug 2, 2014, at 8:03 PM, John Thielking wrote: > > I hope people get the significance of the difference (mathematically) > between how much a particular gene is likely to proliferate in the wild > with 50% expression per generation vs 100% expression per generation. In > the case of 50% expression it is even possible that undesireable GMO traits > will die out within a few generations due to natural selection and > dilution. With the 100% expression method, there is no more dilution and > the process of natural selection may not be as effective any longer. The > difference is exponential, increasing by a factor of 2 every generation, > until 10 years (10 generations) later you have 2 to the 10th power (1024 > x) bigger a problem to deal with when 100% expression happens than with 50% > expression. I hope people get that and also realize that if this new method > becomes standardized for creating gmos it means game over for Organics. > > John Thielking > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Caroline Yacoub > wrote: > >> Hey John, this went through. >> >> >> On Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:44 AM, John Thielking < >> peacemovies at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Things are going well for me in Eugene right now, if I don't include the >> latest tidbits from the Eugene Facebook group "GMOs: Separating the Hybrid >> Wheat from the rhetorical chaff". Below I have included some tidbits >> gleened from the discussion in that FB group. It doesn't look good for the >> home team. >> >> It all starts with an article published on the pbs web site, located here: >> >> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/evolution/crispr-gene-drives/ >> >> In this article the authors are saying that the developers of a new >> fangled GMO technology are asking for input from stakeholders before they >> let their latest GMO technology escape into the wild. Unfortunately, there >> doesn't seem to be an easy way to give feedback. There is no comments >> section on the pbs web site, no e-mail addresses for the authors and no >> specific institute mentioned that is promoting this new technology. >> >> Below I have pasted my comments about this article taken from my FB wall, >> along with a link to an article that talks about a letter that over 800 >> scientists have signed onto asking for a 5 year moratorium on the >> proliferation of GMOs. I'm sure that these scientists would also object to >> the 100% gene expression technique. >> >> Comments from FB: >> >> The people who want this and who want GMOs to proliferate think that this >> latest technique, which will cause 100% gene expression in subsequent >> generations instead of the current technology's 50% gene expression, is the >> ultimate solution. While the believers of Organics and labeling/banning >> of GMOs think that this technique is the ultimate problem, spelling >> disaster for Organics if it ever gets out into the wild and spreads GMO >> traits in the wild. >> >> The proponents of GMOs say that if Organics get contaminated with GMO >> gene expression (which they freely admit is possible through the mechanism >> of transferring say BT expression from a GMO crop to wild weeds and then >> back through the same mechanism in reverse to contaminate Organic crops) >> that they can simply do the reverse engineering process that is mentioned >> in the article and cancel out any proliferation of GMO traits in >> contaminated Organic crops. Well I say, that's BS. The Organic crop would >> not be genetically identical to the original after the contamination >> followed by the reversal, because the reversal would leave the Organic crop >> with a 100% expression of the "non-GMO" trait, something which up to that >> point had not occurred in nature. So I'm so sorry, but you just can't have >> it both ways. Either GMOs have to be banned worldwide or Organic crops will >> eventually (after 20-30 years or more) become cross-contaminated with GMO >> traits imported from wild weeds and the show will be over for the Organic >> movement. >> >> And, by the way, that 20-30 year estimate assumes that the current 50% >> gene expression technology is being used. If the 100% technique is used >> instead, then the time frame shrinks to 10 years or less, worldwide. >> >> Link to article about the 800 scientists (click on the "letter" link in >> the article to see the letter and the series of reports put out by the >> scientists). >> >> http://www.getholistichealth.com/40153/800-scientists-demand-global-gmo-experiment-end/ >> >> Good luck! >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Thielking >> >> PS And a further slip down the GMO/label it ladder is revealed when >> reviewing the discussion I had with people in the FB group (which can be >> viewed by non members). It seems that some of the label it crowd (myself >> included) want to ban/destroy GMOs. But it is also true that the pro GMO >> side appears to have a few people who are against labeling who also want to >> destroy Organics. They are saying things like "some of the pesticides used >> on Organic crops are more hazardous to bees than Roundup" and things like >> that. 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In 1988, James Hansen testified about climate change to Congress: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/24/us/global-warming-has-begun-expert-tells-senate.html As you know, the U.S. has not done much about this since then. I guessed that psychology and sociology could probably say a lot about this. Recently I discovered that the American Psychological Association created a Task Force to look into "the Interface Between Psychology and Global Climate Change". And they created a report in 2011. The page below provides links to pdf files containing an executive summary, a full report, policy recommendations, and more: http://www.apa.org/science/about/publications/climate-change.aspx Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Aug 8 12:55:07 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:55:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "This Changes Everything" In-Reply-To: <53E52A68.7040604@earthlink.net> References: <53E52A68.7040604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53E52B1B.4010101@earthlink.net> FYI, "This Changes Everything" is a new book by Naomi Klein coming out in September. The full title is "This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate". "... that's why climate change isn't just a disaster. It's also our best chance to demand?and build?a better world." http://www.thischangeseverything.org/ "Naomi Klein: 'Our Economic Model Is at War with Life on Earth'" http://commondreams.org/news/2014/08/08/naomi-klein-our-economic-model-war-life-earth Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Aug 8 23:30:05 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 23:30:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SFMT in Palo Alto & San Jose Message-ID: <53E5BFED.9090908@earthlink.net> Aug 21 - Palo Alto - Mitchell Park Aug 26 - San Jose - St. James Park http://www.sfmt.org/schedule/ From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sat Aug 9 11:21:56 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:21:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: 48-Hour Countdown in Press Freedom Fight In-Reply-To: <1988145720.-139890495@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> References: <1988145720.-139890495@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: <53E666C4.4030003@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: If you haven't already, I encourage you to take action to support journalist James Risen, currently being threatened with prison by the Obama administration. One suggested action is outlined in the email below. I believe that attacks on journalists, including this, represent the single greatest threat to world peace, democracy, and a better life for all. All the other problems we face as a society would be more tractable if more people cultivated a voracious appetite for substantive investigative journalism and vigorous but respectful political discourse. Spencer Graves, Executive Director Effective Defense (effectivedefense.org) p.s. If you haven't already seen it, you might be interested in the 1-minute YouTube and companion blog on "Restrict secrecy more than data collection" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV8mHfu3mDw and http://sanjosepeace.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/restrict-secrecy-more-than-data-collection/). -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: 48-Hour Countdown in Press Freedom Fight Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:32:22 -0400 (EDT) From: RootsAction Team Reply-To: info at rootsaction.org To: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org The petition you signed -- "We Support James Risen Because We Support a Free Press" -- will be delivered in Washington next week. Please take a minute now to give the petition a final boost while Attorney General Holder ponders whether he wants Risen to go to jail. ** Forward this email to at least several friends, urging them to sign the petition. ** Then click here [ http://act.rootsaction.org/p/salsa/web/tellafriend/public/?tell_a_friend_KEY=9974 ] for fast sharing via Facebook and Twitter. We have thousands of pages of signers. But we need a lot more within the next 48 hours. We'll be carrying stacks of petitions to the front door of the Justice Department. Please help make our load heavier. This is a kind of chain letter for freedom of the press. You are an important link. Thank you! -- The RootsAction.org team PS Below is information to pass along to people you know who care about press freedom. ***** ***** ***** Please join with Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg to take action now for freedom of the press. He teamed up with us to launch an urgent petition -- at this crucial time for the First Amendment. To join with Ellsberg in signing the petition, click here. [ http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=9775 ] The U.S. government is threatening to jail "New York Times" reporter James Risen if he doesn't reveal a confidential source. Risen, who covers "national security," says he won't capitulate. Now you can let this journalist and top government officials know that you're in solidarity with his brave stand for a free press. Sign the petition "We Support James Risen Because We Support a Free Press." [ http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=9775 ] Why is your support so important? The Freedom of the Press Foundation has called the government's effort to force Risen to reveal a source "one of the most significant press freedom cases in decades." Daniel Ellsberg says: "The pursuit of Risen is a warning to potential sources that journalists cannot promise them confidentiality for disclosing Executive Branch criminality, recklessness, deception, unconstitutional policies or lying us into war. Without protecting confidentiality, investigative journalism required for accountability and democracy will wither and disappear." Amplify our combined voices. Click here to sign the petition to President Obama and Attorney General Holder. [ http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=9775 ] A recent brief from the Obama administration to the nation's top court "is unflinchingly hostile to the idea of the Supreme Court creating or finding protections for journalists," "Politico" reported. The newspaper added that Risen "might be sent to jail or fined if he refuses to identify his sources or testify about other details of his reporting." This threat is truly ominous. So much is at stake: for whistleblowers, freedom of the press and the public's right to know. And for democracy. Please sign the petition and share it with people you know. [ http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=9775 ] Our combined actions can really make a difference. -- The RootsAction.org team Background: > Freedom of the Press Foundation: Court Guts Reporter's Privilege [ > https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/blog/2013/07/court-guts-reporters-privilege-one-most-significant-press-freedom-cases-decades > ] > Truthout: Conversation With James Risen: Can Journalists Protect > Their Sources? 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Donate: https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/p/salsa/donation/common/public/?donate_page_KEY=7188 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/RootsAction Twitter: http://twitter.com/Roots_Action Click here to unsubscribe and stop ALL email from RootsAction. https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6503/p/salsa/supporter/unsubscribe/public/?Email=spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org&email_blast_KEY=168868 -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From wrolley at charter.net Sun Aug 10 13:44:31 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:44:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Drought and Water District Elections Message-ID: <53E7D9AF.6080609@charter.net> It seems that you can't ever keep up with all of the news. I remember taking part in a long range plan public input session for the Water District. Everyone thought that water banking at Semitropic Water Bank was a great idea. Now, the Santa Clara Valley Water District has enough water there to get it through this 4th year of our drought, but they can't get at it. The whole system falls apart when there is not enough water flowing through the system to allow necessary swaps to take place. See this article in the Mercury News: http://www.mercurynews.com/News/ci_26308365/Water-exchange-at-risk Note: one of the commenters links to the site of a candidate for Director of the Santa Clara Valley Water District. Now, with chances for a strong El Nino disappearing, how might we deal with year 5 of a drought? -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Since the show launched 2 years ago, co-hosts Laura Bonham and Egberto Willies have covered the connections between corporate rule and numerous other issues. Among these are: - A series on education ( here and? here ) including our most recent? interview with Jesse Hagopian a leader of the successful teacher test boycott in Seattle. - Spotlight on Detroit and Michigan where corporate economic injustice is playing out in real time against real people. Here , here , and here . (And don?t miss our interview with Robert Reich .) - Youth in Action focuses attention on the activism of young people. Listen to interviews with? Roshan Bliss and? Biola Jeje . More youth organizers will be featured in coming months. In addition to these,? find shows on the climate crisis, net neutrality, public banking, peace, Labor, and interviews with community organizers utilizing new techniques and tried and true methods in successful and ongoing campaigns. As we explore the connections between issues and corporate Constitutional rights, share organizing tips and techniques, and draw attention to the many aspects of corporate rule, we strengthen our movement and our resolve. This week Move to Amend Reports will feature Alyssa Macy, the Executive Director of the International Indian Treaty Council, to discuss indigenous rights, political organizing for power, and the Pacific Northwest Social Forum. Please join the discussion tomorrow (Thurs, Aug 7) at 5pm PT / 8pm ET ! This is a call-in program. Just dial (646) 652-2345 to join the conversation. If you can?t make it for the live show, please listen to the podcast, posted immediately following the show. From the trenches, Daniel Lee, David Cobb, Egberto Willies, George Friday,?Jerome Scott, Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap, Laura Bonham, Edgar Franks, Richard Monje, Virginia Rasmussen, Shara Smith, Johannes Epke, Jessica Munger and Paul Benson Move to Amend National Leadership Team&Staff -=-=- Move to Amend - PO Box 610, Eureka, CA 95502, United States This email was sent to sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org. To stop receiving emails: http://movetoamend.nationbuilder.com/unsubscribe -=-=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Aug 13 13:10:11 2014 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:10:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sunnyvale City Meeting on Homeless Cold Weather Shelter Message-ID: Hi Chuck [Jagoda], Predictably, the Council placed the gymnasium shelter item last on the agenda, hoping the audience would get bored and leave before it came up. Residents of the "snail" neighborhood near the Armory testified that the proximity of the shelter to their homes had motivated them to volunteer at the shelter, and that they had found that its clients were no danger to their community Opposition to the use of the gymnasium was usually presented in these terms: "Oh, we love the idea of a cold weather shelter but we object to the lack of notice of this proposal, and the use of this particular venue is inappropriate when alternatives are available." (Lack of notice is a good point. With adequate notice the myths of the dangerous child-raping drug-addicted homeless might have been addressed by the gymnasium advocates.) Alternatives discussed were the Georgia Travis Center in San Jose, which apparently is ready to roll but lacks operational financing, the Onizuka property (needs move-in portables), and a property at Fair Oaks and California. The Council very early established the principle that the County was responsible to lead the effort. They directed the City staff to survey available properties (in this timeframe--what a joke!) County was (according to Jim Davis) on vacation for the month of July. Ky Lee said that they would probably not even begin to address the issue of a cold weather shelter until their meeting early in September. The Council voted 5 to 2 to take the gym off the list of available sites for the cold weather shelter. Terry indicated that Lockheed was undertaking a long-term study of their defunct Mountain View campus, and that moving the security perimeter would be necessary if their vacant gym was to be opened as a shelter. That's the news as I see it. Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Aug 13 17:30:15 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:30:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sunnyvale City Meeting on Homeless Cold Weather Shelter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1407976215.75425.YahooMailNeo@web185304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Up until the point where I left at 11:30, Lynn was the only person who had mentioned the showers at the gymnasium as being a reason for using it. Do you suppose the portables at Onizuka would have showers? Do you think the NIMBYs would have felt differently if Davis had mentioned the showers? Caroline On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:10 PM, Brian wrote: Hi Chuck [Jagoda], Predictably, the Council placed the gymnasium shelter item last on the agenda, hoping the audience would get bored and leave before it came up.?? Residents of the "snail" neighborhood near the Armory testified that the proximity of the shelter to their homes had motivated them to volunteer at the shelter, and that they had found that its clients were no danger to their community Opposition to the use of the gymnasium was usually presented in these terms:? "Oh, we love the idea of a cold weather shelter but we object to the lack of notice of this proposal, and the use of this particular venue is inappropriate when alternatives are available."? (Lack of notice is a good point.? With adequate notice the myths of the dangerous child-raping drug-addicted homeless might have been addressed by the gymnasium advocates.) Alternatives discussed were the Georgia Travis Center in San Jose, which apparently is ready to roll but lacks operational financing, the Onizuka property (needs move-in portables), and a property at Fair Oaks and California. The Council very early established the principle that the County was responsible to lead the effort.? They directed the City staff to survey available properties (in this timeframe--what a joke!) County was (according to Jim Davis) on vacation for the month of July.? Ky Lee said that they would probably not even begin to address the issue of a cold weather shelter until their meeting early in September.? The Council voted 5 to 2 to take the gym off the list of available sites for the cold weather shelter.? Terry indicated that Lockheed was undertaking a long-term study of their defunct Mountain View campus, and that moving the security perimeter would be necessary if their vacant gym was to be opened as a shelter.? That's the news as I see it. 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For those who don't know Larry, he has served on the Fairfax town council for eleven years. He has twice served as Mayor. ? Fairfax, CA is the only Green Party majority town council in the United States. ? He also served a term on the Green Party of CA Coordinating Committee. ? You are all welcome to attend our kickoff event at his house on Sunday 9/7. ? It'll be one heck of a blowout party 45 minutes north of San Francisco and Berkeley.? http://www.larrybragman.org/campaign_kickoff Best wishes, Marnie Glickman Co-chair, Marin Green Party Member, Green Party of CA Coordinating Committee Former co-chair, Green Party of the United States 415.259.7121 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Who is going to distribute them? 2) table at working women 9 to 5 leadership training Saturday September 13, 2014 10 am to 3 pm table $25; table and a banner on the wall $50 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 15 16:59:48 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:59:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item Message-ID: <53EE9EF4.5070505@sbcglobal.net> Holiday Peace Fair first planning meeting 6 pm Wednesday Septembe 3, 2014 at the San Jose Peace Center From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Aug 15 19:00:19 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:00:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items In-Reply-To: <53EE924E.3050602@sbcglobal.net> References: <53EE924E.3050602@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1408154419.35093.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Who is doing the agenda? On Friday, August 15, 2014 4:06 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: 1)? order Green Pages - Summer of 2014 ? ? how many?? Who is going to distribute them? 2)? table at working women 9 to 5 leadership training ? ? Saturday September 13, 2014? 10 am to 3 pm ? ? table? $25;? table and a banner on the wall? $50 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Aug 15 19:01:24 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:01:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item In-Reply-To: <53EE9EF4.5070505@sbcglobal.net> References: <53EE9EF4.5070505@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1408154484.5616.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I'm going to this, but I'd love to have others go too. Caroline On Friday, August 15, 2014 5:00 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: Holiday Peace Fair first planning meeting 6 pm Wednesday Septembe 3, 2014 at the San Jose Peace Center _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From WB4D23 at aol.com Sun Aug 17 17:06:18 2014 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items Message-ID: Only Sandy, Spencer and Warner (plus two nonmembers) attended the July meeting; and the three of us agreed that there were too few present to be making decisions. So the August agenda is much as the July agenda. I will add the three events items in the usual place. Warner In a message dated 8/15/2014 7:00:51 P.M. 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To date, we?ve had over 150,000 views and more than 30 sampling sites launched, thanks to over 370 donations from citizen scientists sampling the ocean from La Jolla to Alaska and including the Hawaiian islands. A handful of those sites are also supported into the future thanks to your efforts. We had no idea what to expect when we started, but your support and this broad interest makes us even more motivated to continue! Our Findings Using the most sensitive methods to measure your water samples, we have detected only cesium-137, the ?legacy? cesium that remains from 1960s atmospheric weapons testing. This isotope is still in all ocean basins because of its relatively long 30-year half-life, which means it takes a long time to decay away. Levels of cesium-137 in all 43 samples analyzed thus far average 1.5 Bequerels per cubic meter of water, which is equivalent to one-and-a-half decay events per second per metric ton of water. This is a very small number if we compare it to the 7,400 Bq/m3 used by US EPA as the drinking water limit, and the millions of Bq/m3 of cesium detected in the ocean off Japan in 2011 at the peak of the accident, which at that level are of considerable concern for direct negative impacts on marine biota and human health. The Fukushima reactors also released cesium-134 into the ocean and because it has a shorter half-life (2 years) any cesium-134 detected in the ocean today must have come from Fukushima. Though we do detect this isotope in abundance off Japan, cesium-134 is not YET present in any of the sample collected by citizen scientists along the North American west coast and Hawaii. Our instruments are capable of detecting as little as 0.2 Bq/m3 so the concentration of cesium-134 is below this level. We emphasize that cesium-134 has not been detected ?YET? as it has been detected offshore of North America by Canadian oceanographers. It?s difficult to predict when these radionuclides will arrive onshore because the mixing of offshore and onshore waters is complicated, and not represented in the simple models that predicted the arrival onshore of Fukushima radionuclides this year. The uncertainty in the predictions by these ocean models only emphasizes the importance of collecting samples from along the shores. Remember too that while those models predict increasing levels of both cesium isotopes for the next 2-3 years, the highest published prediction is for 20-30 Bq/m3, or well below what is thought to be of human health or fisheries concern. But it?s important to continue making observations with real data! Your continued support will help us monitor how, when, and where offshore water reaches the beaches and what levels of cesium isotopes are transported by that water. New Offshore Sampling These finding have led to some exciting additions to the Our Radioactive Ocean project including the collection of around 50 new samples collected offshore using the Research Vessel Point Sur from Moss Landing Marine Labs. The RV Point Sur left Dutch Harbor, AK, on the Aleutian chain and headed to Eureka, CA, collecting both surface ocean and water at various depths (many thanks to Curtis Collins & crew!). Even though we were not funded to participate, it was too good an opportunity to pass up. Now we?ll need to raise enough funds through OurRadioactiveOcean.org to get these samples analyzed so we can resolve that critical offshore to onshore gradient in cesium isotopes. So keep an eye out on new results from this RV Point Sur cruise and spread the word to potential donors. We appreciate our supporters who help us sample along their favorite beaches, but we need to do more than just beach sampling to resolve what levels are in the oceans and how quickly they will end up along the coast line. Website Updates The second part of this email is to alert you to some updates to the website. We?ve added a ?news and events? button, so you can track media coverage and updates on events, similar to the public lectures Ken gave in June along the West Coast (one of those lectures from Vancouver Aquarium is available to view). Also, keep the sampling photos coming, as we get lots of positive feedback on your involvement and our growing list of sponsors! Finally, as we enter the fall, we?ll be working on web improvements, some you can?t see, but others you can. We want to automate the system to alert all of the sponsors of a given site when their fundraising goal is met and when the sample data appear. Right now we only alert the single person leading the sampling effort because this is done by hand. We also want to improve our presentation of the results, with easier viewing and downloading of the data ? but that is a bigger job. If you have suggestions for any other improvements for us to consider, please email us at ourradioactiveocean at whoi.edu. We are planning to keep the Our Radioactive Ocean project going as long as there is interest, so tell your friends about us, and let them know they can propose new sampling locations, or they can support continued monitoring at existing sites or help fund our capacity building campaign which is raising funds so we can process more samples. Thanks again for your interest, Ken Buesseler & Colleen Durkin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This group is trying to pull together people from Move to Amend, the California Clean Money Campaign, Common Cause, DreamMenders, the Green Party, the Mid-Peninsula Peace & Justice Center, and anyone else with time and interest in electoral reform. Electoral reform may not be anyone's most important issue, but progress on global warming, public health, and virtually any other major issue facing humanity today is largely blocked by dysfunctions in how the public gets information about politics and decides how to vote in elections, as noted by Lawrence Lessig and many others (see Wikipedia, "Electoral reform in the United States"). I hope to see you this Saturday. Best Wishes, -- Spencer Graves, PhD Executive Director Effective Defense 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.effectivedefense.org -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Aug. 23rd -- Despite the Prop. 49 derailment, we move on! Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:05:27 -0700 From: Eitan Fenson Reply-To: Eitan Fenson To: Spencer Graves Derailed: The Meaning of the California Supreme Court?s Disqualification of Prop 49 DESPITE THE DERAILMENT WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER Bring a friend to discuss how to respond to the CA Supreme Court decision; how to support the Disclose Act; how to approach the Sept. 8 vote on Citizens United in the U.S. Senate, how to get local federal and state legislators to support a 28th amendment, how to make local candidates accountable to voters for a 28th amendment, how to gain voter pledges, whether to form a Democracy Coalition in Santa Clara County, what to do for the Nov. 2016 ballot locally and statewide, and discuss other great ideas surfacing since the California Supreme Court decision. GET BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS. OVERTURN CITIZENS UNITED ONLY REAL HUMAN BEINGS ARE ENTITLED TO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REGULATE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIO NO SIGNFICANT REFORMS ARE POSSIBLE WITHOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM. Meeting to Dialogue & Take Further Action: Saturday, August 23, 2014, 3-5 PM AACI, 2400 Moorpark Ave., SJ Room 304 Contact Richard Hobbs at 408-460-2999 richhobbs at msn.com, Eitan Fenson at 650-302-8760 eitan at scc-mta.org, or Gerry Hunt at 408-266-0107 gwhunt97 at comcast.net. to unsubscribe: https://scc-mta.org/civicrm/mailing/optout?reset=1&jid=712&qid=141431&h=adc26793c5902794 -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From WB4D23 at aol.com Wed Aug 20 15:55:25 2014 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda Message-ID: <50e58.5274c23e.4126815d@aol.com> I replied to Caroline's earlier inquiry on this. I have not seen a copy of my reply show up in my email box. Warner In a message dated 8/20/2014 9:03:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carolineyacoub at att.net writes: Anybody know who is doing the agenda for the Green meeting? Caroline _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Wed Aug 20 18:19:38 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:19:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda In-Reply-To: <50e58.5274c23e.4126815d@aol.com> References: <50e58.5274c23e.4126815d@aol.com> Message-ID: <53F5492A.7080009@structuremonitoring.com> Hi, Warner, Caroline et al.: ALL: Warner agreed to do the agenda. He sent an email to "sosfbay-discuss" Aug. 17, subj: agenda items. If you did NOT receive same, please let us know. WARNER: I received your August 17 email subj: agenda items, which Caroline either did not receive or overlooked (possibly because a spam filter trapped it). If you are referring to a more recent email from you to sosfbay-discuss, please do the following: 1. Send a copy to me and I will repost to the list. 2. Have you asked AOL tech support about this? If yes, could you please summarize for me what you asked and their response? When you press "send", your message to sosfbay should go (1) from your computer to AOL, then (2) from AOL to cagreens.org, then (3) from cagreens.org back to AOL, and finally (4) from AOL back to you. AOL tech support should have tools see if the email makes it through all four of these steps. If the problem is with steps (1) or (4), AOL should be able to help you understand what you need to do to fix it. If the problem is in step (2), it's an AOL problem, and they should be able to fix it. If the problem is with step (3), that's an issue for someone with the Green tech support team. CAROLINE: Could you please check to see if you received the August 17 email mentioned above (perhaps in your spam)? If it's too late to check for that, please ask Warner to resend and call you after he's done that so you can check immediately to see if it has arrived? Spencer On 8/20/2014 3:55 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > I replied to Caroline's earlier inquiry on this. I have not seen a copy > of my reply show up in my email box. Warner > > > In a message dated 8/20/2014 9:03:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > carolineyacoub at att.net writes: > > > Anybody know who is doing the agenda for the Green meeting? > Caroline > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Aug 21 04:00:17 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 04:00:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Greens Meeting, Thursday July 24th Message-ID: <53F5D141.9010005@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Below please find a draft agenda for the next meeting, Thursday, August 28. Warner agreed to prepare the agenda. Unfortunately, he is having trouble with emailing to sosfbay-discuss, so I'm transmitting this report from the last meeting. Only 3 regular members attended. They declared the lack of a quorum and pushed time sensitive issues to the County Council and pushed the rest of the agenda to August. Spencer ################### Earlier this evening, we had a only 3 regular members for our monthly meeting (Warner, Sandy and me) plus 3 guests (Patrick McKercher of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend group, plus "Nicci" Elaine Claremont and Marco Garcia, who plan to attend the Occupy National Gathering in Sacramento, July 31 - August 3). Patrick talked about Prop 49 on this November's ballot, which I've mentioned before. He noted that the SCC-MTA had created BDECR (Build Democracy, End Corporate Rule), which had tried to collect the required number of signatures (~53,000) to place an advisory initiative on the Santa Clara County ballot and had collected only between 4,000 and 5,000 by the deadline. This experience actually is placing them in a leadership position to help the state-wide Prop 49 campaign, currently being formed by MOVI (Money Out, Voters In). While many other organizations helped, MOVI seems to have been the acknowledged leader in getting Prop 49 on the ballot. They managed to get SB 1272 introduced into the California state Senate, and they worked with other organizations like the California Clean Money Campaign (caclean.org) to get it passed; SB 1272 is the "Overturn Citizens United Act," which mandated an advisory measure, which is Prop 49. Below please find a draft agenda for that next meeting. As always, please send any corrections, additions or questions to the entire list. SANDY HAD TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS: * Tomorrow evening, Friday, July 25, 7 - 9 PM, San Jos? Peace & Justice Center: Film: "Beware the Emergency Financial Manager" about Rev. Edward Pinkney, who is currently being prosecuted on vote fraud charges under laws that could send him to prison for 25 years. He claims the Right wingers are after him, because he has tried to challenge the legality of some of the actions surrounding the bankruptcy of Detroit, MI (http://www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=201407091124192). * July 30, noon, there will be a rally to celebrate the birthday of Medicare. See the separate email from Sandy. Spencer GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting August 28, 2014 San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Between Santa Clara and San Fernando Streets) 7:00 pm: pre-meeting 7:30 pm: Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Treasurer's Reportm, Jim Doyle (5 minutes): Bank balance: $1,109.42. Annual contribution to SJPJC now due: $150 Report on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use: Updated list has been requested and should be received in a few days. (Spencer) Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council: To the best of my knowledge, the California State Green party has decided to accept whatever we have. (Spencer) Continue Discussions regarding GPSCC web page(s) and email list(s): If you have problems with the web site, please report such to Spencer Graves (spencer.graves at prodsyse.com). If you are not allowed to send to sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, please try to sign up again for the list. If you can send an email to the list that others on the list receive but you don't, please call tech support at your Internet Service Provider (ISP). They should be able to watch to see if the email reaches a server belonging to cagreens.org. If it doesn't, it's a problem they can fix. If it does, they should then be able to watch to see if it comes back to them from cagreens.org. If it doesn't, please report it to me (spencer.graves at prodsyse.com). I don't know how to fix it, but I'll use that information to try to obtain a solution. If it comes back from cagreens.org, then again it's a problem your ISP should be able to fix. Warner and Drew (15 minutes) Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that was previously established by the GPCA's former executive manager,? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee also remove, delete and terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was / were previously established by the GPCA's executive manager,? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) Report on Single Payer Work; Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report on Climate Change Work -- Caroline (15 Minutes) Discussion of status of tabling supplies (10 Minutes) Plans for Tabling Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 Minutes) Continued Strategy Discussions; Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) Sandy: Report on compiling summary of past year's events and activities. Warner: Visioning exercise: Write and read statements for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015 (2.1 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Proposition 49, recently placed on the ballot for the November General Election, will ask the voters the following: "Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth, may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only?" From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 21 16:52:29 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:52:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] tabling opportunity Message-ID: <53F6863D.9070103@sbcglobal.net> Here is the program for the Working Women 9 to 5 org event /Date:/ Saturday, September 13, 2014 /Time:/ 10:00am - 3:00pm /Place:/ 2302 Zanker Road, Great Room, 2nd Floor, San Jose, CA We are excited to announce that Santa Clara County Supervisor Cindy Chavez will be joining us as our keynote speaker. Ms. Chavez is a force for change in San Jose, championing working women's issues and an end to wage theft, and we are honored to have her join the 9to5 California Conference. /Panels and trainings:/ * *Wage Theft* Ruth Silver Taube, Workers Rights Attorney, Katherine and George Alexander Community Law Center * *Living Wages* Elly Matsumura, Working Partnerships USA * *Making the Election Connection* Jessica Bartolow, Western Center on Law and Poverty * *Promoting Workplace Flexibility* Ana B. Fortez, US DOL Women's Bureau $25 for a table, $50 for a table and a banner on the wall. I atteended two years ago, got hooked and worked on one of their projects for several months. The final result was a bill in the state legislature that did not make it out of committee. However, these people, 9 to 5 Working Women, persist and this year the corresponding bill made it out of committee. Jim Doyle From perrysandy at aol.com Thu Aug 21 21:10:02 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Greens Meeting, Thursday July 24th In-Reply-To: <53F5D141.9010005@prodsyse.com> References: <53F5D141.9010005@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <8D18BD614F9A9B0-AF0-C48F@webmailstg-vd09.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, Here is the summary of local 2013-14 GP activities I was assigned to compile for the agenda point below. Sandy GREEN PARTY OF SANTACLARA COUNTY ACTIVITIES 2013-14 Weekly ? Tableat De Anza College Feb 27, 2013 - Speakat Oak Grove HS Apr 7, 2013 - Tableat David Cobb appearance at SBLC Apr. 13, 2013 - Helporganize and table at Andrew Hill Health Fair Apr 27, 2013 - Tableat Junior State May 1, 2013- SponsorMay Day A2K at De Anza College May 8, 2013 - Tableat Spring into Green, De Anza College Jun 15, 2013 - Tableat Juneteenth Jun 22, 2013 - Participatein Napa State Assembly Aug 3, 2013 - Participatein Richmond Summer Heat Sept 6, 2013 - Co-sponsor,table, and speak at Single Payer Health Care forum at Seventrees Sept 16, 2013 - Speakat Jill Stein event in SF Oct 7 ? 10, 2013 - Participate in March to Heal the Valley Nov 16, 2013 - Participatein Santa Rosa State Assembly Nov 19, 2013 - Tableat Move to Amend campaign event Dec 14, 2013 - Tableat Peace Fair Dec 2013-Mar 2014 ? Signature drive collected over 1200signatures for GP candidates Jan 18, 2014 ? Co-sponsor MLK Freedom Games in Menlo Park Jan 23, 2014 - Tableat Club Day at De Anza Jan 30, 2014 - SponsorSharat Lin talk on Syria & Iran at De Anza Feb 7, 2014 - Participatein Camp Wellstone De Anza College Feb 27, 2014 - Speakat Oak Grove Mar 11, 2014 - Sponsor3 workshops at LEAD Conference, De Anza Apr 9, 2014 - Tableat Gayle Mclaughlin San Jose appearance Apr 5, 2014 - Tableat Junior State Apr 12, 2014 - Co-sponsorAndrew Hill Health Fair Apr 22, 2014 - SponsorEarth Day action at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) Apr 22, 2014 - Tableat Earth Day at SJSU Apr 24, 2014 - Tableat Club Day at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) Apr 28, 2014 - SponsorLuis Rodriguez appearance at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) Apr 30, 2014 - SponsorHip Hop performance at De Anza College (Global Climate Convergence) May 1, 2014 - Co-sponsorHefas appearance at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) May 15, 2014 - Tableat De Anza Carnival May 23, 2014 - Sponsorcampaign appearance by Laura Wells & Ellen Brown at De Anza May 27, 2014 - Co-sponsorappearance by Father Michael Lapsley at de Anza May 27, 2014 ? Lucinda Gutierrez house meeting for LuisRodriguez May 28, 2014 ? Table at Free Higher Education event at DeAnza Jun 17, 2014 - SponsorSharat Lin talk ?On the Border? at De Anza -----Original Message----- From: Spencer Graves To: sosfbay-discuss Sent: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 4:00 am Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Greens Meeting, Thursday July 24th Hello, All: Below please find a draft agenda for the next meeting, Thursday, August 28. Warner agreed to prepare the agenda. Unfortunately, he is having trouble with emailing to sosfbay-discuss, so I'm transmitting this report from the last meeting. Only 3 regular members attended. They declared the lack of a quorum and pushed time sensitive issues to the County Council and pushed the rest of the agenda to August. Spencer ################### Earlier this evening, we had a only 3 regular members for our monthly meeting (Warner, Sandy and me) plus 3 guests (Patrick McKercher of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend group, plus "Nicci" Elaine Claremont and Marco Garcia, who plan to attend the Occupy National Gathering in Sacramento, July 31 - August 3). Patrick talked about Prop 49 on this November's ballot, which I've mentioned before. He noted that the SCC-MTA had created BDECR (Build Democracy, End Corporate Rule), which had tried to collect the required number of signatures (~53,000) to place an advisory initiative on the Santa Clara County ballot and had collected only between 4,000 and 5,000 by the deadline. This experience actually is placing them in a leadership position to help the state-wide Prop 49 campaign, currently being formed by MOVI (Money Out, Voters In). While many other organizations helped, MOVI seems to have been the acknowledged leader in getting Prop 49 on the ballot. They managed to get SB 1272 introduced into the California state Senate, and they worked with other organizations like the California Clean Money Campaign (caclean.org) to get it passed; SB 1272 is the "Overturn Citizens United Act," which mandated an advisory measure, which is Prop 49. Below please find a draft agenda for that next meeting. As always, please send any corrections, additions or questions to the entire list. SANDY HAD TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS: * Tomorrow evening, Friday, July 25, 7 - 9 PM, San Jos? Peace & Justice Center: Film: "Beware the Emergency Financial Manager" about Rev. Edward Pinkney, who is currently being prosecuted on vote fraud charges under laws that could send him to prison for 25 years. He claims the Right wingers are after him, because he has tried to challenge the legality of some of the actions surrounding the bankruptcy of Detroit, MI (http://www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=201407091124192). * July 30, noon, there will be a rally to celebrate the birthday of Medicare. See the separate email from Sandy. Spencer GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting August 28, 2014 San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Between Santa Clara and San Fernando Streets) 7:00 pm: pre-meeting 7:30 pm: Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Treasurer's Reportm, Jim Doyle (5 minutes): Bank balance: $1,109.42. Annual contribution to SJPJC now due: $150 Report on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use: Updated list has been requested and should be received in a few days. (Spencer) Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council: To the best of my knowledge, the California State Green party has decided to accept whatever we have. (Spencer) Continue Discussions regarding GPSCC web page(s) and email list(s): If you have problems with the web site, please report such to Spencer Graves (spencer.graves at prodsyse.com). If you are not allowed to send to sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, please try to sign up again for the list. If you can send an email to the list that others on the list receive but you don't, please call tech support at your Internet Service Provider (ISP). They should be able to watch to see if the email reaches a server belonging to cagreens.org. If it doesn't, it's a problem they can fix. If it does, they should then be able to watch to see if it comes back to them from cagreens.org. If it doesn't, please report it to me (spencer.graves at prodsyse.com). I don't know how to fix it, but I'll use that information to try to obtain a solution. If it comes back from cagreens.org, then again it's a problem your ISP should be able to fix. Warner and Drew (15 minutes) Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that was previously established by the GPCA's former executive manager,? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee also remove, delete and terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was / were previously established by the GPCA's executive manager,? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) Report on Single Payer Work; Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report on Climate Change Work -- Caroline (15 Minutes) Discussion of status of tabling supplies (10 Minutes) Plans for Tabling Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 Minutes) Continued Strategy Discussions; Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) Sandy: Report on compiling summary of past year's events and activities. Warner: Visioning exercise: Write and read statements for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015 (2.1 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Proposition 49, recently placed on the ballot for the November General Election, will ask the voters the following: "Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth, may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only?" _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spencer On 8/21/2014 9:30 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > proposal > auathorize an annual membership fee of $100 > to the Health Care Coalition (in case it has not > already been done.) > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From perrysandy at aol.com Thu Aug 21 21:45:51 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party Party September 2! Message-ID: <8D18BDB1587C00B-1744-C499@webmail-va095.sysops.aol.com> GREEN PARTY PARTY! 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From: Green Party of the United States Subject: Greens: We Must Bring Justice to the Criminal Justice System Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Size: 10973 URL: From WB4D23 at aol.com Fri Aug 22 15:14:08 2014 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] (no subject) Message-ID: <90e4e.16d8cd38.41291ab0@aol.com> GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting August 28, 2014 San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Between Santa Clara and San Fernando Streets) 7:00 pm ? Speaker: None announced as of August 22, 2014 (date of this agenda draft) 7:30 pm ? Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) Report on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use ? County Council (15 minutes) Status Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council ? Spencer (1 minute) Continue Discussions regarding GPSCC web page(s) and email list(s) ? Warner and Drew (15 minutes) Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ?executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ? executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) Report on Single Payer Work ? Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report on Climate Change Work -- Caroline ? Warner on August 13th Sustainability 3D meeting (15 Minutes) Discussion of status of tabling supplies ? (10 Minutes) Included: Whether to purchase Summer 2014 Green Issues Plans for Tabling ? Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 minutes) September 13 9 to 5 Conference (Table fee) December ?? San Jose Peace Fair Continued Strategy Discussions ? Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) -? Sandy: Report on compiling summary of past year?s events and activities. Warner: Visioning exercise: Write and read statements for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015 (2 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Note: Much of this agenda is the same as for July 24, 2014 because there were not enough GPSCC members attending for business to be conducted at that meeting. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Sun Aug 24 11:32:58 2014 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:32:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Volunteers needed to get the best vote Aug. 30 on SB 52 to disclose the major contributors to campaign ads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53FA2FDA.1050009@effectivedefense.org> Hello, All: SB 52 is scheduled for a vote in the California Assembly this Saturday, August 30. SB 52 mandates disclosure of the identities of the major contributors to campaign ads. I believe this deserves your support, because the financing of political campaigns and investigative journalism are the primary obstacles to improvement on almost any issue facing humanity today. You can help with this effort in four different ways: First, if you haven't already, contact your representative in the California Assembly about this. The other three ways are phone banking and using Facebook and Twitter for the CAClean campaign, as outlined in the email below. 1.1. If you don't know your representative in the Assembly, go to "http://assembly.ca.gov", click on "Members", then "Find your Legislator by your address". 1.2. Call or email your representative. "Find your Legislator", as just described, should produce a link to your representative's web site, which should explain how you can contact them by phone and email. For phone banking, Facebook, and Twitter, see below. Thanks, Spencer -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Fwd: CA DISCLOSE Act Actions: Phonebanks, Facebook, & Twitter Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:47:18 -0700 From: William Barrett To: Spencer Graves About Callfire... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Trent Lange, CA Clean Money" Date: Aug 23, 2014 6:42 PM Subject: CA DISCLOSE Act Actions: Phonebanks, Facebook, & Twitter To: Cc: Hi William - Two years of hard work by thousands of activists for the game-changing *California DISCLOSE Act* are now coming to a head. Last week it passed the Assembly Appropriations Committee after thousands of calls, emails, faxes, and a hundred people packed the halls in Sacramento at the hearing. *On Saturday, August 30th, SB 52 will be having its final vote in the full Assembly -- and a quick final "reconciliation" vote in the Senate the same day.* SB 52 now has powerful opponents who oppose SB 52's clear-cut rules that disclosures on ballot measure ads must show the actual original corporations, unions or millionaires that pay for the ad, not misleading front-groups. So we've got our work cut out for us. Here are three things you can do to build pressure on the Assembly: Virtual phonebanking to constituents of key Assemblymembers , our Facebook "rapid response" team, and Twitter "storms". We describe them below. Please sign up for one of them! *Sign up for Callfire virtual phonebanking!* Phonebanking to generate calls from constituents is one of the most powerful things you can do to pass the *California DISCLOSE Act*. You'll be using our powerful Callfire system and calling Clean Money and *DISCLOSE Act* supporters, so the calling is easy and effective. One thing our Callfire system does is help make your calling more efficient by automatically dialing for you. But the most important thing it does is let you press a button and automatically transfer the caller directly to the office of the Assemblymember when they agree to speak to them! It's all done without any long-distance charges for you. We're having trainings every day next week at 2pm and 7pm (except Friday, when it will just be at 2pm). Then you'll get a script and will be calling constituents of key targets. These calls may make the difference between winning and losing, so make as many as you're able to from the comfort of your own home. *Sign up for a Callfire virtual phonebank training now! * *Join the Clean Money Facebook Rapid Response Team!* A big way we've been building support for the *California DISCLOSE Act* and other ways to fight Big Money in politics is by sharing Clean Money posts on Facebook. *Click here to "like" the California DISCLOSE Act Facebook page!* But liking the page is only the first step. What really helps spread the word is when you engage by "liking" and commenting on posts, and especially sharing them with your friends. We have an active Clean Money Facebook Rapid Response team that gets email alerts 3-4 times a week on important Clean Money posts with the latest news or actions to share. That way you won't miss anything and can share them right away! *Sign up for the Clean Money Facebook Rapid Response team!* *Join the #PassSB52 Twitter Storms next Tuesday and Thursday nights!* If you're on Twitter, then join our "Twitter Storms" next Tuesday (8/26) and Thursday (8/28) from 9-10pm, where supporters from around the state will be tweeting at key Assemblymembers to vote Yes on SB 52. We'll provide you with a list of sample tweets using the hashtag #PassSB52. All you'll have to do is: 1) Select a sample tweet from the list (which we'll email you when the storm begins) or adapt one yourself. 2) Select another sample tweet from the list provided and publish it. 3) Repeat for as many times as you can. *Click here to register for Tuesday (8/26) at 9pm * *Click here to register for Thursday (8/28) at 9pm * And of course you don't need to wait for the Twitter Storms. If you're on Twitter, you can go right now and *follow the California Clean Money Campaign on Twitter *. Then search for #PassSB52, and then retweet the tweets you see or tw eet similar ones of your own! --- Signing up for one or more of these three things will make a big difference for SB 52's chances. We're down to the last week for this game-changing reform. As one of our volunteer leaders said, you can tell how powerful the *California DISCLOSE Act* is by how hard it is to pass it. You can also tell by looking at the details on our website . But we are getting very close, thanks to all of you. Together, we will create a democracy that is truly of, by, and for the people. Trent Lange President, California Clean Money Action Fund * * ------------------------------ The California Clean Money Action Fund is a non-profit, non-partisan 501(c)(4) organization that is the political advocacy arm of the 501(c)(3) California Clean Money Campaign . The California Clean Money Action Fund has been fighting for legislation and ballot measures to limit the undue influence of Big Money in California politics since 2006. All our support comes from individuals and non-profit foundations, with no funding from corporations or unions. For more information about us and our efforts on the *California DISCLOSE Act*, visit www.CAdisclose.org . ------------------------------ This message was sent to William A. Barrett by Trent Lange, CA Clean Money through MoveOn's public petition website. MoveOn Civic Action does not endorse the contents of this message. To unsubscribe or report this email as inappropriate, click here: http://petitions.moveon.org/unsub.html?i=24746-252874-zXQicf *Want to make a donation?* MoveOn is entirely funded by our 8 million members?no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. 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If you don't know your representative in the Assembly, go to "http://assembly.ca.gov", click on "Members", then "Find your Legislator by your address". 1.2. Coauthors in the Assembly are Fong, Alejo, Ammiano, Bonta, Buchanan, Gatto, Gonzalez, Medina, Ting, Wieckowski, and Williams. If one of these represent you, thank them. Otherwise, ask for their position and express your support. You can do that via phone or email. Information on how to do that should be on their web sites, which should be included as a link in the response to "Find your Legislator", as just described. The other three ways to support this are phone banking and using Facebook and Twitter, as outlined in the email below from CAClean.org. Thanks, Spencer ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Trent Lange, CA Clean Money" Date: Aug 23, 2014 6:42 PM Subject: CA DISCLOSE Act Actions: Phonebanks, Facebook, & Twitter Two years of hard work by thousands of activists for the game-changing *California DISCLOSE Act* are now coming to a head. Last week it passed the Assembly Appropriations Committee after thousands of calls, emails, faxes, and a hundred people packed the halls in Sacramento at the hearing. *On Saturday, August 30th, SB 52 will be having its final vote in the full Assembly -- and a quick final "reconciliation" vote in the Senate the same day.* SB 52 now has powerful opponents who oppose SB 52's clear-cut rules that disclosures on ballot measure ads must show the actual original corporations, unions or millionaires that pay for the ad, not misleading front-groups. So we've got our work cut out for us. Here are three things you can do to build pressure on the Assembly: Virtual phonebanking to constituents of key Assemblymembers , our Facebook "rapid response" team, and Twitter "storms". We describe them below. Please sign up for one of them! *Sign up for Callfire virtual phonebanking!* Phonebanking to generate calls from constituents is one of the most powerful things you can do to pass the *California DISCLOSE Act*. You'll be using our powerful Callfire system and calling Clean Money and *DISCLOSE Act* supporters, so the calling is easy and effective. One thing our Callfire system does is help make your calling more efficient by automatically dialing for you. But the most important thing it does is let you press a button and automatically transfer the caller directly to the office of the Assemblymember when they agree to speak to them! It's all done without any long-distance charges for you. We're having trainings every day next week at 2pm and 7pm (except Friday, when it will just be at 2pm). Then you'll get a script and will be calling constituents of key targets. These calls may make the difference between winning and losing, so make as many as you're able to from the comfort of your own home. *Sign up for a Callfire virtual phonebank training now! * *Join the Clean Money Facebook Rapid Response Team!* A big way we've been building support for the *California DISCLOSE Act* and other ways to fight Big Money in politics is by sharing Clean Money posts on Facebook. *Click here to "like" the California DISCLOSE Act Facebook page!* But liking the page is only the first step. What really helps spread the word is when you engage by "liking" and commenting on posts, and especially sharing them with your friends. We have an active Clean Money Facebook Rapid Response team that gets email alerts 3-4 times a week on important Clean Money posts with the latest news or actions to share. That way you won't miss anything and can share them right away! *Sign up for the Clean Money Facebook Rapid Response team!* *Join the #PassSB52 Twitter Storms next Tuesday and Thursday nights!* If you're on Twitter, then join our "Twitter Storms" next Tuesday (8/26) and Thursday (8/28) from 9-10pm, where supporters from around the state will be tweeting at key Assemblymembers to vote Yes on SB 52. We'll provide you with a list of sample tweets using the hashtag #PassSB52. All you'll have to do is: 1) Select a sample tweet from the list (which we'll email you when the storm begins) or adapt one yourself. 2) Select another sample tweet from the list provided and publish it. 3) Repeat for as many times as you can. *Click here to register for Tuesday (8/26) at 9pm * *Click here to register for Thursday (8/28) at 9pm * And of course you don't need to wait for the Twitter Storms. If you're on Twitter, you can go right now and *follow the California Clean Money Campaign on Twitter *. Then search for #PassSB52, and then retweet the tweets you see or tw eet similar ones of your own! --- Signing up for one or more of these three things will make a big difference for SB 52's chances. We're down to the last week for this game-changing reform. As one of our volunteer leaders said, you can tell how powerful the *California DISCLOSE Act* is by how hard it is to pass it. You can also tell by looking at the details on our website . But we are getting very close, thanks to all of you. Together, we will create a democracy that is truly of, by, and for the people. Trent Lange President, California Clean Money Action Fund * * ------------------------------ The California Clean Money Action Fund is a non-profit, non-partisan 501(c)(4) organization that is the political advocacy arm of the 501(c)(3) California Clean Money Campaign . The California Clean Money Action Fund has been fighting for legislation and ballot measures to limit the undue influence of Big Money in California politics since 2006. All our support comes from individuals and non-profit foundations, with no funding from corporations or unions. For more information about us and our efforts on the *California DISCLOSE Act*, visit www.CAdisclose.org . -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Aug 24 12:31:49 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:31:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Coalition for electoral reform, Sa., Sept. 6, 3-5 PM Message-ID: <53FA3DA5.1070100@prodsyse.com> A new coalition has recently been formed to coordinate action for electoral reform. A Santa Clara County chapter of this coalition met yesterday. Four deadlines were identified in that meeting: 1. August 30, at which time the California Assembly is scheduled to vote on SB 52, requiring prominent disclosure of the primary funders of political ads. (See my recent email to this list on this.) 2. September 8, when the US Senate is scheduled to vote on Senate Joint Resolution 19 to amend the US constitution to allow federal and state governments to "regulate and set reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by candidates and others to influence elections." (https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/19) 3. November 4, the election. 4. January 21, 2015, the fifth anniversary of the Citizens United decision by the US Supreme Court. This coalition will next meet on Saturday, Sept. 6, 3-5 PM. Location and agenda to be announced later. As I've previously mentioned, I believe that the financing of political campaigns and investigative journalism are the critical problems that must be improved first before substantive progress can be made on virtually any other issue facing humanity today. I hope you will find ways to combine support for this effort in conjunction with the other things you are doing. Best Wishes, Spencer p.s. The current name of this coalition is "yesonCA49.org", reflecting the fact that it was formed to push for approval of CA Prop 49, the "Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure", before it was removed from the November 4 ballot by the California Supreme Court. -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Tue Aug 26 06:47:37 2014 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:47:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why Climate Mvmnt must stand with Ferguson Message-ID: <40361e51-7f1c-4b2a-b1cc-54523b9a05f4@email.android.com> http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/why-the-climate-movement-must-stand-with-ferguson -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spencer On 8/25/2014 8:17 AM, Rob Means wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I plan to attend your meeting on Thursday, and request endorsement by > your county central committee. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Drew On August 26, 2014 10:55:21 AM PDT, Spencer Graves wrote: >Hi, Rob, et al.: > > > How about coming at 7 PM? > > > We usually reserve 7 - 7:30 PM for a guest presentation, and this >would fit perfectly with that. Then at 7:30 or official meeting will >begin. > > > See you then. > Spencer > > >On 8/25/2014 8:17 AM, Rob Means wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I plan to attend your meeting on Thursday, and request endorsement by > >> your county central committee. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > >-- >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >President and Chief Technology Officer >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >751 Emerson Ct. >San Jos?, CA 95126 >ph: 408-655-4567 >web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Tue Aug 26 23:37:19 2014 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:37:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] AOL & Yahoo email incompatible with other email list services In-Reply-To: <53F5492A.7080009@structuremonitoring.com> References: <50e58.5274c23e.4126815d@aol.com> <53F5492A.7080009@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: I believe I wrote previously (I know I tried to explain this at a meeting) that recent choices threw AOL and Yahoo have made have made them incompatible with any other service other than their own. Here is an article that explains it: http://www.zdnet.com/aol-yahoo-email-problems-show-limits-of-email-security-7000028783/ We now know for a certainty that ALL the large commercial advertising-supported email services are in bed with the NSA. They are betraying the U.S. Constitution and basic human rights by subjecting every last one of us to constant Police State surveillance. These include Hotmail, Outlook, MSN (all from Microsoft) Google/Gmail, AT&T/SBC Global, AOL, & Yahoo. They are no friend to any one of us. EVERYONE and particularly ANYONE WHO CARES ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS NEEDS TO STOP USING THESE SERVICES AND START USING RISEUP. NET AND OTHER SERVICES THAT ACTUALLY RESPECT HUMAN RIGHTS. RiseUp.net is for activists only, sign up is simple and no cost. Greenvolution is NOW! Drew On August 20, 2014 6:19:38 PM PDT, Spencer Graves wrote: >Hi, Warner, Caroline et al.: > > >ALL: Warner agreed to do the agenda. He sent an email to >"sosfbay-discuss" Aug. 17, subj: agenda items. If you did NOT receive > >same, please let us know. > > >WARNER: I received your August 17 email subj: agenda items, which >Caroline either did not receive or overlooked (possibly because a spam >filter trapped it). If you are referring to a more recent email from >you to sosfbay-discuss, please do the following: > > > 1. Send a copy to me and I will repost to the list. > > > 2. Have you asked AOL tech support about this? If yes, could >you please summarize for me what you asked and their response? When >you >press "send", your message to sosfbay should go (1) from your computer >to AOL, then (2) from AOL to cagreens.org, then (3) from cagreens.org >back to AOL, and finally (4) from AOL back to you. AOL tech support >should have tools see if the email makes it through all four of these >steps. If the problem is with steps (1) or (4), AOL should be able to >help you understand what you need to do to fix it. If the problem is in > >step (2), it's an AOL problem, and they should be able to fix it. If >the >problem is with step (3), that's an issue for someone with the Green >tech support team. > > >CAROLINE: Could you please check to see if you received the August 17 >email mentioned above (perhaps in your spam)? If it's too late to >check >for that, please ask Warner to resend and call you after he's done that > >so you can check immediately to see if it has arrived? > > > Spencer > > >On 8/20/2014 3:55 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: >> I replied to Caroline's earlier inquiry on this. I have not seen a >copy >> of my reply show up in my email box. Warner >> >> >> In a message dated 8/20/2014 9:03:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> carolineyacoub at att.net writes: >> >> >> Anybody know who is doing the agenda for the Green meeting? >> Caroline >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > > >-- >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >President and Chief Technology Officer >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >751 Emerson Ct. >San Jos?, CA 95126 >ph: 408-655-4567 >web: www.structuremonitoring.com > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will not be able to attend but could help with research to support any serious political effort to challenge the current reality: **************************** "Over the past 40 years in the US, the prison population has increased by a factor of 10, the average annual income has doubled, and research has shown that the only effective drug program is treatment, not criminalization. I believe we should stop prosecuting drug-related offenses except when accompanied by violence and use that money to fund first-class drug treatment programs and research to make them better plus similar programs and research to keep kids in school, providing quality child care for at-risk kids from neonatal to age 20. "Spencer Graves, PhD statistician, who can help with the research if others can manage the politics." **************************** (105 words; should take roughly 53 seconds at a modest pace of 2 words per second) I've made similar offers in the past with no response. However, sometimes an idea like this will sell after the 10th time or presented by different people ;-) Thanks, Spencer On 8/26/2014 8:34 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > The African American Community Services Ageny > ia holding a Michael Brown Rally at 5 pm Wednesday > August 27-th in the San Jose City (Hall) Plaza. > > I see it as an opportunity to connect. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From wrolley at charter.net Wed Aug 27 15:14:34 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:14:34 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why Climate Mvmnt must stand with Ferguson In-Reply-To: <40361e51-7f1c-4b2a-b1cc-54523b9a05f4@email.android.com> References: <40361e51-7f1c-4b2a-b1cc-54523b9a05f4@email.android.com> Message-ID: <53FE584A.2060002@charter.net> On 8/26/2014 6:47 AM, Drew wrote: > http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/why-the-climate-movement-must-stand-with-ferguson > -- Interesting piece, Drew. Tanks for posting. It has always been obvious that the poor, and that generally means people of color, will be the most affected by climate change. Look at the Central Valley. It won't be the big farm operators like Stuart Resnick who are hurting, it will be the followers of Chavez and Huerta who work the fields and find no work, or those with no water in the well as BBC featured on the news tonight. That why this old, college educated white guy is doing all he can to stop climate change now before it is too late. This is an existential threat for many. The change has to come in my life time and I am already in my 70's. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are 2; please contribute to 'Campaign for a Healthy California'; call Sandy if quesitons. sg On 8/21/2014 9:30 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > proposal > auathorize an annual membership fee of $100 > to the Health Care Coalition (in case it has not > already been done.) > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Aug 28 22:24:47 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:24:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party minutes Message-ID: <54000E9F.1080901@prodsyse.com> *** Please send corrections and additions to this list. ############# Rob Means: Last time, ran against the incumbent mayor. Odds of winning in the previous time, he got 4888 votes. This time, he's running in a field of 8 for 2 seats. "meansfordemocracy.org" Platform: Door hanger. Issues: (1) A K-6 school. (2) a crossing near the BART station. (3) home / business upgrades to save water and energy. These 3 address global warming, which Rob says is the primary issue Q: Policy regarding endorsing a non-Green candidate? Warner: There is none. Q: Why did Rob leave the Greens? Rob: Was Democratic. Then registered for ~10 years, then reregistered Democratic. *** We officially endorsed Rob Means. GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting August 28, 2014 San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Between Santa Clara and San Fernando Streets) 7:00 pm ? Speaker: None announced as of August 22, 2014 (date of this agenda draft) 7:30 pm ? Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator: Warner. Note taker: Spencer Time keeper: Tian. Vibes watcher(s): Sandy Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting: Caroline. Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Warner: may not be at the next meeting, because it will be the evening following Rosh Hashona and may not make it. If someone can call him at 3 or 4 PM before the meeting, ... Rob Means: Candidate for Milpitas City Council. This Saturday at his home, there will be a Green Home Tour. 11 AM - 3 PM. Tian from Mt. View, more of a bicycle activist these days. Caroline: Official Green at 73 other mtgs. Sandy: San Jose is considering a Housing Impact Fee to require developers of market housing to pay a fee to support Spencer: Next Money Out Voters In coalition meeting Saturday, Sept. 6, 3 - 5 PM location TBD. Pushing electoral. Go to CAClean.org to sign their petition AGAIN final push for SB52 for a v Drew: Next Tuesday, the DeAnza Green Party will have a party here at the San Jose Peace & Justice Center. 7 PM. Green Party Party. (not a meeting) Blair: Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) Report on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use: After making our annual donation of $150 to the San Jose Peace Center we have $922.21 in our account. $100 approved for the Campaign for a Healthy Coalition. County Council (15 minutes) Status Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council ? Spencer (1 minute): What we have is good enough, we think, for the moment. updated registered voters info. Spencer has. What do we do with it? Warner suggests we invite all to propose uses over the next year. ** Rob has a copy of this list. Roughly 10% of those have email addresses. Rob suggests we use the email addresses in that list. Caroline: We should call or email the Greens and ask for donations. Rob: Phone is better than emails. *** SG to create lists of Santa Clara Greens with phone numbers (for Caroline by Saturday) and emails (later, possibly with help from Rob) -- sorted by zip code, then street (?) Sandy: If we use this list intelligently, we should be able to increase our number of Green party activists. Drew: There are Green who are doing all kinds of things; we are just not in touch with them. We can be more effective by organizing local organizations. *** greenshadowcabinet.us = most important thing the US Greens are doing. We need to get the word out on that more. sg: Phone calls should be to ask why they joined the Green party and what they would like the Greens to be doing -- Warner: Whether we ask people by email or phone, we need a clear message explaining where we got the contact info, why we are contacting them, ... . Warner and Drew (15 minutes) Should we disengage from the State Party web site? e.g., should we disengage from "cagreen.org"? [SG: cagreens.org is an identity, and I'm not ready to separate from that identity.] Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ?executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council -- and relink back to our real web site. *** Approved. Tian will do it. Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ?executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) ** There are 2 GPSCC Facebook pages, one that Drew created and one that Marnie created. ** ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL: Tian to investigate the two Facebook pages and develop a proposal for how we can get control of these 2 Facebook pages and merge the two. Proposal is withdrawn for the moment; we will revisit next month. ### Report on Single Payer Work ? Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report on Climate Change Work -- *** National meeting in Oakland last weekend. Sandy spoke at it. Many groups including the California Nurses Assoc. and the Campaign for Healthy California. Other group led by Physicians for National Health Care organized CAPSA(?) medical students ... Caroline ? Warner on August 13th Sustainability 3D meeting (15 Minutes) *** Warner is on Ted Smith's email list former Exec. Dir. of Si Valley Toxics Coalition. Naglee Park south and east of the state U. area. He and others organized a series of lectures and other activities on Coyote Creek, etc., a clean-up day, ... . and other work "sustainability 3D" for district 3 of city of San Jose. Identify and mobilize for sustainability issues considered by the San Jose City Council. *** There will be a meeting Saturday, Sept. 6, Le Boungier, on Matilda betw. Maude and California, in Svle. 1-3 PM. 350.org Silicon Valley -- esp. tar sands, trains, pipelines, ... Caroline went to a meeting Tuesday evening at the home of Lisa Altiery. She and others just finished a video about climate change. *** Could someone bring that to the next meeting? 15-20 minutes? Caroline will try to arrange it. ** Caroline went to the Svle City Council, because they closed the Armory for the homeless. ** Tian: The most thoughtful idea from 350.org: 1 gallon of gasoline = 42 pounds of C02 = worse than pooh. Discussion of status of tabling supplies ? (10 Minutes) Included: Whether to purchase Summer 2014 Green Issues Plans for Tabling ? ** YES: buy the Green Issues, minimum quantity. A year ago, we had adopted a policy to buy the minimum quantity each time it comes out. Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 minutes) September 13 9 to 5 Conference (Table fee) December ?? ** YES: (if the fee is reasonable, e.g. ~ $25) San Jose Peace Fair: WILL BE THE FIRST SATURDAY IN DECEMBER. First planning meeting: Sept. 3. Another Junior State in November. Sandy: Report on compiling summary of past year?s events and activities. Continued Strategy Discussions ? Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) -? Warner: Visioning exercise: Write and read statements for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015 (2 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Note: Much of this agenda is the same as for July 24, 2014 because there were not enough GPSCC members attending for business to be conducted at that meeting. -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com