From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Feb  2 10:50:35 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 10:50:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Fwd: "Silicon Valley against KXL" Protest Vigil -
	Monday evening, Lytton Plaza
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From: Pierre Delforge <pedelforge at gmail.com>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net> 
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:34 PM
Subject: Fwd: "Silicon Valley against KXL" Protest Vigil - Monday evening, Lytton Plaza
  


Hi Caroline,

I trust you're already planning to do it, but could you invite your Greens to these two events?

Thanks and hope to see you there (I'm going to the Palo Alto one). 

Pierre



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pierre Delforge <pedelforge at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:26 PM
Subject: "Silicon Valley against KXL" Protest Vigil - Monday evening, Lytton Plaza
To: 350siliconvalley at googlegroups.com



Hi all,
It's really important to send a strong message to the White House that we stand united against the KXL tar sands pipeline. 350.org, CREDO, Sierra Club and other partner organizations are?organizing hundreds of events around the country to show President Obama?our determination.

We're planning two events in Silicon Valley, both on Monday evening, 6 pm for 1 hour:
	* Palo Alto: Lytton Plaza, 6 - 7 pm: Details and RSVP here:?http://www.350siliconvalley.org/kxl_protest_vigil.?We'll have candles, short statements, and perhaps even live songs by our star author-performer Deborah! ?

	* San Jose: Federal Building, 280 S. 1st. St., 6 - 7 pm:?Details and RSVP here:?https://actionnetwork.org/events/san-jose-nokxl-vigil. Join Andrew Bear, the leader of the San Jose Sit-In event planned later in the Spring when the draft National Interest Determination is published.

Keystone XL is a crucial fight between us, the people concerned about climate change, and Big Oil. It is being watched nationally and internationally to see if we can start winning against the fossil fuel industry and start curbing climate change. Will you join us?


Let's make history and make President Obama reject KXL!!!

Pierre


http://www.350siliconvalley.org/www.facebook.com/350SiliconValley http://www.meetup.com/350SiliconValley/
 



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Duncan Meisel - 350.org <350 at 350.org>
Date: Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:04 PM
Subject: BREAKING: Update on Keystone XL
To: Pierre Delforge <pedelforge at gmail.com>



Friends, 
Below is a crucial note about the future of Keystone XL that we?re sending out to our entire email list. (Short version: today the State Department released its flawed environmental report, setting in motion the countdown to the final decision by President Obama. So? it?s game time.) 
Since I know you?ve hosted an event with 350 before, I wanted to make a special request to see if you were able to help pull together a local event to mark the occasion and show our resolve on Monday evening. If you can host, click here to sign up: actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/kxl-fseis?referrer=350-org&zip=95070
 
Here?s what you?ll need for an event: 
	* A big, powerful visual and some way to make it look good at night. Perhaps this is a banner, illuminated by flashlights. Or a message in tea lights you lay out on the ground. However you want to approach it, let?s light the night with our energy. 
	* A good place to gather. This could be the place you gathered at your last event, or another central, iconic location that is easy for people to meet you at after work. 
	* A team to help bring it together. As with every event, you?ll need a few folks to take on different roles. Here are a few to keep in mind: an MC, photographer, someone in charge of the visual, and a point of contact for the press.  
The rest of the story is below. I hope to be able to step back into action with you soon. 
-Duncan 

________________________________
 
Friends, 
Today the State Department released its Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) on Keystone XL, starting the official countdown to a final decision by President Obama on the pipeline. 
Big oil hand-picked the reviewers of the pipeline, which means the report avoids taking a stand on the pipeline?s climate impacts -- leaving the ball entirely in President Obama?s court. As always, he has all the evidence he needs to reject the pipeline. 
The last time State released an FEIS about Keystone XL in 2011, 59 people were arrested that same day just outside the White House in what was just day 6 of a two week sit-in to stop the pipeline. Those sit-ins grew to actions across the country, which grew to a historic rally that surrounded the White House and forced President Obama to delay the pipeline, keeping millions of barrels of oil in the ground and millions of dollars out of the hands of big oil. 
In other words, today is just the starting point for the next crucial phase of this fight. Together, I believe we can once more stop the pipeline. 
We won?t do it by relying on the State Department, whose process has been riddled with conflicts of interest and big oil?s money. Nor by relying on the President?s good intentions ? his lofty rhetoric about climate change has been betrayed too many times by weak action and backtracking. 
As we showed in 2011, the only time you can count on the President is when you have him completely surrounded. And so it?s up to us to mobilize again, and put the pressure on from all sides. 
Step one is to show our resolve and disappointment in this broken process. On Monday night, all across the country, people will be gathering to mark this moment together at protest vigils, where we will light the night with our resolve to keep fighting. We need to show the media, big oil and the President that this movement is mobilized and unafraid. Can you be there? 
Click here to look for an event near you, and sign up to host if there isn't one near you: actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/kxl-fseis?referrer=350-org&zip=95070 
Step two is to set some firm plans. Next Tuesday, Feb 4th, the night after the protest vigils, 350 will host an online video chat to lay out some ideas for what we can do to put the pressure on President Obama over the coming months. Click here to RSVP, and we?ll send you a reminder when it happens. 
Keystone XL is a critical piece in big oil?s plan to dig up and burn all of the tar sands. We?ll continue to face them down on other fronts too -- East, West, South; by rail or pipe -- to keep this oil in the ground. 
Big oil wants you to believe that today?s report means this fight is over. And that?s the difference between us and them. 
Where they see a finish line, we see the starting blocks. Where they see a pipeline route, we see homes, and farmland. Where they see an export facility, we see a community struggling to breathe. Where they see an oil patch, we see a boreal forest and the violation of treaties. 
Where they see a bottom line, we see our future on the line. 
And that?s why this is just another beginning. Let?s roll, 
Duncan 

 
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Feb  2 22:50:33 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 22:50:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Wonderful play! Pear Avenue's Quality of Life
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This does not address our issues, but Leah Halper is a faculty person from Gavilan College that we met when we were down there tabling. She's very receptive to Green ideas. I was hoping we could use her to help get a Green club going down there. She writes plays, and I went to one here in San Jose.
Caroline
 
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From: "lhalper at garlic.com" <lhalper at garlic.com>
To: lhalper at garlic.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 7:21 PM
Subject: Wonderful play! Pear Avenue's Quality of Life
  

Hey, everyone. Happy Groundhog day!

I want to really give strong encouragement to everyone to see the play at the Pear Avenue Theatre this month--I think three more weekends. It's Quality of Life, and a more moving, profound, and bittersweet play I can't remember seeing. Besides that the acting is transcendent (more than one audience member admitted forgetting we were at the theatre at today's talk-back), the writing is so good that anyone writing for theatre really should experience its depths and clarities. And as the play is about coming to terms with loss, and as it is powerful and moving, it speaks I think to all of us.

Website:? http://www.thepear.org/ I hear there are tickets left. Really, there should not be!

Love, Leah
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 08:00:45 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:00:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Not Seeking Re-election To County Council
Message-ID: <1391443245.14098.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I just got back from a short trip to Eugene Oregon. I am fully satisfied with the quality of life there (including the possibility of getting a mobile home in an all age park for $3900 to $20k depending on the size and quality and the distance from downtown Eugene). So I am planning to move there permanently at the end of June 2014. They don't have a functioning Green Party organization in Lane County, but they have a very active Occupy movement and every other person that you run into is an activist. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that they aren't all liberal democrats.?? We will see.? I will be keeping most of my furniture and other junk at my current room mate's location for a few months after I move so if I find out I've been had, it is just a $63 train ticket to come back.? I may also be able to make a trip to San Jose and/or LA about once per month if I can find someone's couch to sleep on for a couple of nights per month.? It's been great
 living in San Jose, but it is time for me to move on. Cheers.

Sincerely,

John Thielking
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 10:58:11 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:58:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Final vote to cut food stamps TODAY: Your
	signature is missing
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Chris Bowers, Daily Kos" <campaigns at dailykos.com>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: Final vote to cut food stamps TODAY: Your signature is missing
 


 
 
John, the U.S. Senate will vote TODAY to invoke cloture on the Farm Bill that cuts food stamps. Virtually all the cuts only affect 16 states?including California.

Please sign and send the petition to your senators now, urging them to vote no.

Keep fighting,
Chris Bowers, Daily Kos
________________________________
 

Date: Feb 02, 2014 11:50 A.M.
From: Paul Hogarth, Daily Kos
Subject: SHOCKING: 97% of foodstamp cuts to target just 15 blue states, including California

John, there is a horrifying twist on the $8.7 billion cuts to food stamp cuts that passed the House?and which will soon face a vote in the Senate.

Almost all of the food stamp cuts come from 16 states and the District of Columbia?including California. The rest of the nation is left virtually untouched.

Sign and send our petition to your two U.S. Senators?telling them to just say ?no" to food stamp cuts.

But wait, that's not all?15 of these 16 states voted for President Obama twice, and 28 of their 32 senators are Democrats.

In other words, these cuts are targeted overwhelmingly at poor folks in blue states.

Sign and send our petition to your two senators, telling them to vote ?no? on the Farm Bill?because it cuts food stamps, with poor folks in blue states the overwhelming victims.

Keep fighting,
Paul Hogarth, Daily Kos 

P.S. Please help keep Daily Kos strong by chipping in $3. 


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 12:39:43 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:39:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Don't Let Big Oil Frack California's Coast
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Center for Biological Diversity <bioactivist at biologicaldiversity.org>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 12:35 PM
Subject: Don't Let Big Oil Frack California's Coast
 


Center for Biological Diversity  




Dear John,

 To squeeze the last few drops of oil from beneath California's ocean floor, oil companies have sunk to new depths. The latest craze involves fracking, a process of oil and gas extraction that treats our oceans like a dump. ?

Offshore fracking disregards the plain fact that whales, dolphins, otters, fish and countless other marine animals call these waters home. To get at the oil and break up the subsea rock, the companies must shoot toxic chemicals underground. Inevitably these chemicals end up polluting the water. Would you want to lie around in a bath like that?

Oil companies have already fracked more than 200 times off California's beautiful coast -- we need your help now to end offshore fracking. 

Please sign the Center for Biological Diversity's petition to urge the California Coastal Commission to halt offshore fracking now. 
 Click here to take action and get more information.
  
If you can't open the link, go to http://action.biologicaldiversity.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=14976.
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Donate now to support the Center's work.

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  3 13:49:05 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:49:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: End the debt ceiling drama once and for all
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Rep. Mike Honda and Democracy for America <info at democracyforamerica.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 12:07 PM
Subject: End the debt ceiling drama once and for all
 


 


Congressman Mike Honda is a Vice Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and a DFA-endorsed candidate. He started a petition on our YouPower platform to end the current system of crisis legislating over the debt ceiling. Click here to sign Congressman Honda's important and timely petition. -- Charles Chamberlain, Democracy for America 
________________________________
 
John -- 

Here we go again. With a February 7 deadline looming, the United States is yet again in danger of hitting the debt ceiling, potentially defaulting, and thus sending the global economy into chaos. 

Yes, you've seen this movie before. And it isn't getting any better. Democrats in Congress are prepared to raise the debt ceiling but it appears conservative ideologues are getting ready to force the country into yet another economic cliffhanger. 

Raising the debt ceiling, once considered a perfunctory duty of Congress to pay our bills, is now seen by reckless Tea Party Republicans as an opportunity to threaten and extort concessions from Democrats. This brinkmanship isn't just selfish and irresponsible -- it's deeply dangerous. 

Fortunately, there is a simple way we could end the hostage-taking once and for all: I've proposed legislation that would place responsibility for the debt ceiling squarely in the hands of the Treasury Department. Unless a super-majority of Congress intervened, the debt ceiling would be raised automatically and keep us safe from economic collapse whenever necessary. No drama involved. 

Sound good to you? Then sign my YouPower petition today in support of ending the manufactured crisis legislating we have now -- and stop Tea Party Republicans from threatening our economy again. 

Democracy for America endorsed my re-election campaign because they know I'll continue to fight to make government work better for all of us -- and requiring a congressional debt ceiling vote simply doesn't do that anymore. It may have made sense in a bygone era, but in today's contentious political climate it just introduces an unnecessary amount of risk into our system with absolutely no reward. 

It is clear we can't trust Tea Party Republicans to value the full faith and credit of the United States over their own political ambitions. Our country desperately needs an adult in the room before these ideologues finally push us over the edge into a financial disaster. 

Tell Congress to stop playing chicken with the American economy. Sign my YouPower petition now to stop the debt ceiling setup we have now. 

Thank you for standing up to the Tea Party and their extremist agenda, 

- Mike 

Congressman Mike Honda  
Paid for by Democracy for America, http://www.democracyforamerica.com/?t=4&akid=4396.2448636.tSN8bN and not authorized by any candidate. Contributions to Democracy for America are not deductible for federal income tax purposes. 
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Feb  3 20:58:00 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:58:00 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Not Seeking Re-election To County Council
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Congratulations, John, for taking charge!  We'll miss you.  Eugene has a lot to offer.  Rep. Peter De Fazio 
and Sen. Wyden, for instance, two of maybe eight federal legislators who are worth a damn. And the 
Register-Guard occasionally does some actual journalism, the library downtown at the transit hub is real 
nice, and the Williams Bakery Thrift Store right on Franklin at the E. end of the University grounds is a 
godsend.  In July you can eat your way from one side of the town to the other on free wild blackberries.  
Spencer Butte  and Mt. Pisgah are good local hiking; Siuslaw National Forest is just 30 miles toward the 
coast, and the public lands start about 20 miles east of town and continue over the Cascades, across 
the desert, and over the Rockies all the way to Casper, Wyoming,  It is, one of Ken Kesey's buddies used 
to say, "a good place to be poor."

The pawnshops in Springfield are very competitive and the owners have known all their clients for years, 
so new guys get great deals--buy three screwdrivers and you'll only get charged for two.  

But if you (or a friend) drive a car with California plates, be aware that a favorite local sport is to loosen 
the starter trigger wire so the car starts once, road shocks jiggle the wire loose, and the car won't start 
the second time.  This has happened to me three times in Eugene.  It seems those guys enjoy Californicos'
company so much that they go to great trouble to encourage us to stick around!





















 

Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:00:45 -0800
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; palestineis at dslextreme.com
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Not Seeking Re-election To County Council

Hello,
I just got back from a short trip to Eugene Oregon. I am fully satisfied with the quality of life there (including the possibility of getting a mobile home in an all age park for $3900 to $20k depending on the size and quality and the distance from downtown Eugene). So I am planning to move there permanently at the end of June 2014. They don't have a functioning Green Party organization in Lane County, but they have a very active Occupy movement and every other person that you run into is an activist. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that they aren't all liberal
 democrats.   We will see.  I will be keeping most of my furniture and other junk at my current room mate's location for a few months after I move so if I find out I've been had, it is just a $63 train ticket to come back.  I may also be able to make a trip to San Jose and/or LA about once per month if I can find someone's couch to sleep on for a couple of nights per month.  It's been great living in San Jose, but it is time for me to move on. Cheers.
Sincerely,
John Thielking
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  4 10:02:19 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 10:02:19 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [Please forward!:] RSVP!: This Thursday (2/6)
 Special Evening with Luis Rodriguez and Laura Wells. (Our Governor and
 Controller candidates)
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Please forward!:] RSVP!: This Thursday (2/6) Special Evening
with Luis Rodriguez and Laura Wells. (Our Governor and Controller
candidates)
Date: 	Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:37:43 -0800 (PST)
From: 	Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 	Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com>
To: 	[long list]


All,

Please forward the message below to others in your county who might be
interested in the Luis Rodriguez/Laura Wells event we're hosting this
coming Thursday evening!  See you then!  (And please remember to "RSVP"!).

Thank you!,

Greg






     A Special Evening with Luis Rodriguez and Laura Wells


       Thursday, Feb. 6th, 2014

http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/davidcurtis/pages/37/attachments/original/1365475985/P4061471.JPG?1365475985http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/oxzxvfycRSE/maxresdefault.jpg
*You are invited to a special ?Meet and Greet / Fundraiser? with *
*the Green Party?s Governor candidate Luis Rodriguez and *
*our State Controller candidate Laura Wells.

*
More info about them is on their website:
http://rodriguezforgovernor.org/
and http://laurawells.org/
Please remember to bring your checkbook!

*Thursday, February 6, 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm*
At Laura Wells? community house, 351 Santa Clara Ave, Oakland, CA
(2 blocks northwest of the Grand Lake Theater)
/Please RSVP if you can come: //laurawells2014 at gmail.com
<mailto:laurawells2014 at gmail.com> <mailto:laurawells2014 at ...> or
510-225-4005/








From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  4 10:56:49 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 10:56:49 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Getting Past Capitalism"
In-Reply-To: <52F13750.4080903@earthlink.net>
References: <52F13750.4080903@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <52F137F1.40403@earthlink.net>


FYI,

you might be interested in this interview of the author
of "Getting Past Capitalism":

http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/02/declaring-victory-wherever-we-can/

More info about the book:
http://faculty.deanza.edu/kaufmancynthia/stories/storyReader$112


Gerry


From perrysandy at aol.com  Tue Feb  4 20:01:03 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 23:01:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Global Climate Convergence April 22 - May 1
Message-ID: <8D0F03E059398B4-87B0-68CF@webmail-vm004.sysops.aol.com>


Hi Everyone,

This national (and international) convergence in support of a Global Green New Deal will be held in diverse locations from April 22 - May 1 and is sponsored by the Green Shadow Cabinet and others.

http://www.globalclimateconvergence.org/



Sandy
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Tue Feb  4 21:12:31 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 00:12:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Petition update
Message-ID: <8D0F04801DEC9F1-73C-6AC4@webmail-va029.sysops.aol.com>



Hi Everyone (especially County Councilmembers),
 
Who is in charge of tabulating our signatures on a week by week basis and making these reports to Kamran? I sent one in last week based on Caroline's report to me on how many signatures she turned in and how many were valid.
 
I currently have 30-40 more for each candidate that I plan to take to the registrar on Thursday. If anyone wants me to submit theirs for them, I will do so, just contact me so we can make arrangements.
 
Based on informal, word-of-mouth rumors, I would say we are currently closer to 100 signatures collected than to our goal of 1000.
 
If each person on this list would print out the forms for the four candidates (available at http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014) and get them filled out by 10 registered Santa Clara County voters, we would be significantly closer to our goal. Any volunteers? Let us know how many you collect so that the designated person can tabulate and report them to Kamran.
 
Thanks!
 
 
Sandy Perry
408-691-6153
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Kamran Ghasri <kghasri at gmail.com>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 10:51 pm
Subject: Petition update



Friends and comrades;


  Please let me know the number of signatures collected for the candidates in your county, during the last week. Thank you all.

Laura Wells ------------ 
Ellen Brown ------------ 
Luis Rodriguez -------- 
David Curtis ------------ 


Kamran Ghasri
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From andi at wrytor.com  Wed Feb  5 03:16:24 2014
From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 03:16:24 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Presentation by Green Party Member of New York - Feb
	9th!
Message-ID: <E1165A8E-DC1D-4167-ACA1-7021BFA882C0@wrytor.com>

Longtime Palo Alto Humanist Masuma Ahmed, here for the World Apps convention at Moscone, will present the iCrea8 3D world at the Humanist Community Forum on February 9th in the Student Center at Palo Alto High School. The free program begins at 11:00am and ends at 12:15pm. 

For more information, see www.humanists.org and click on Newsletter. Palo Alto High School is on the corner of Embarcadero Road and El Camino Real, Palo Alto. Nearby CalTrain station. Free parking.
 
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Thu Feb  6 06:55:24 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 06:55:24 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Wellstone Organizing manual
Message-ID: <960075c9-384c-4751-8315-bff04071cc6e@email.android.com>

This is the fabulous how-to organizing manual from the Campus Camp Wellstone training. Even if you can't come to the excellent training I urge us all to download and study this and put it into practice. This is a precious resource.

http://www.wellstone.org/sites/default/files/attachments/PoliticsTheWellstoneWay-1.pdf

Green is GO!

Drew
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Feb  6 19:19:45 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:19:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Health Fair
Message-ID: <1391743185.36176.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Regarding the Health Fair at Andrew Hill High School on April 12, I would like to do the Green Party tabling this year. Is there anybody out there who would like to do Registration?
Also, knowing how we all feel about GMOs, I suggested they get their food from Chipotle this year. Anybody want to chip in? 
Caroline
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 19:44:50 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:44:50 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Help Fight Big Money's Influence in Elections
In-Reply-To: <BAY177-W402EA08A931706B6CC3F3D9E940@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY177-W402EA08A931706B6CC3F3D9E940@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W15139904427AA952122FC29E970@phx.gbl>


You may remember the flap last year after the Koch Brothers injected $15 million 
into the California ballot initiative process through Americans for Responsible 
Leadership and the Center to Protect Patient Rights.  The Washington Post reported 
that the Kochtopus network of non-profits alone hid $400 million nationwide in 2012!

Legislation is pending in the California Assembly that will help ensure that billionaires 
and corporations can't hide behind 
secretive non-profits.   SB 27  requires any group 
spending $50,000 in 
California elections to reveal exactly who gave the money.
SB 27 is endorsed by the League of Women Voters.  http://ca.lwv.org/node/1155

You can help get this passed by signing this petition, which will  generate an email
to your Assembly Representative.    
https://www.facebook.com/ProgressivesUnited/posts/10202288224105346

Particularly important are petition signers in rural and/or Republican districts, so
if you could forward the link to friends and family in those districts that would 
help greatly.

If you're a tweetist, you can direct tweets to fence-sitting Assemblymembers. 
Retweetable tweets available here:     https://twitter.com/MapLight

 		 	   		   		 	   		  
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Thu Feb  6 21:02:49 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:02:49 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
 Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
Message-ID: <52F468F9.8080409@structuremonitoring.com>

Hello, All:


1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings.


2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS? 
ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).


** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position.


I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.


Best Wishes,
Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb  6 21:55:55 2014
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 21:55:55 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] speaking to a high school class
Message-ID: <52F4756B.1020904@sbcglobal.net>

Here is an email that Sandy and I received.
Last year Sandy and I spoke to these classes.
Would anyone like to join us this year?
I have gender balance on my mind.
The classes are 55 minutes long so I am of the
opinion that it could be a team effort.

Jim Doyle

Hi Jim and Sandy,

I?m contacting you to find out if either of you could speak to my 
classes again like last year, 3 AP US Government and Politics sections. 
I?m looking at any Tuesday ? Friday in February(March will be fine if 
you can't do February). We are out for Winter break the week of the 17th 
- 21st. You would be speaking to periods 1(31 students), 5 (25 
students)and 6(30 students)...1st period 7:15 ? 8:10 am... 5th 11:35- 
12:30 and 6th periods 1:00 - 2:00 pm Let me know if you can do it and 
what day(s) work(s) best for you. Because of the long gaps between 1st, 
5th and 6th periods, it is fine if you want to visit on different days.
Thanks!
Greg
Oak Grove High School
285 Blossom Hill Rd
San Jose, CA 95123
cell# 408 693 0282


From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Fri Feb  7 10:26:50 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:26:50 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
 Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
Message-ID: <52F5256A.8070605@structuremonitoring.com>

p.s.  Santa Clara County Supervisorial District 2 (for which there is a 
vacancy on the Citzens' Advisory Commission on Elections, see below) is 
Cindy Chavez' district.  That's roughly downtown San Jos?, extending up 
to the Flea Market and down to California 82.  For a map, see 
"http://www.sccgov.org/sites/rov/Voting/PublishingImages/2010-supervisor-re-apportionment-10-25.jpg". 
  To find your districts, go to the web site of the Santa Clara County 
Registrar of Voters and select "Lookup your districts" 
(http://eservices.sccgov.org/rov/?tab=dt).  Then enter your address in 
the box and click "Go".  When I did it just now, I got a list of 16 
different districts, starting with County Supervisor and ending with 
County Board of Education.


######################


Hello, All:


1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings.


2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS? 
ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).


** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position.


I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.


Best Wishes,
Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Feb  8 11:04:17 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 11:04:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: War on the poor?
In-Reply-To: <fde7cf-15eba-52f51722@web01.moveon.org>
References: <fde7cf-15eba-52f51722@web01.moveon.org>
Message-ID: <1391886257.626.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Robert Reich <moveon-help at list.moveon.org>
To: caroline yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net> 
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: War on the poor?
  


  
Dear fellow MoveOn member, 
Opposing a minimum wage hike, blocking unemployment insurance, cutting food stamps, keeping millions from accessing Medicaid
.... I believe these positions are part of?a concerted effort to keep struggling folks down
that represents nothing less than a war on the poor and working class. 
Click here to see what I
mean:  
The first step toward solving a problem is understanding it. So if, after you watch this video, you agree with me that it
all adds up to a war on the poor and working class, please share the video with your friends. 
Together, we can build an economy that works for everyone, not just the wealthiest 1%. 
Thanks for playing an active role in our democracy.
?Robert Reich 
 
Want to support our work? MoveOn Civic Action is entirely funded by our 8 million members?no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here.  

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Tue Feb 11 09:12:48 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:12:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: FYI, valid sigs out of totals
In-Reply-To: <8D0F563664305DA-1A9C-20969@webmail-m272.sysops.aol.com>
References: <29d21.3bd61a7c.4026a0d7@aol.com>
	<CAEbw7qyudx_TrMwSjxrYSL-8KRP19fuSyowU+fKW0TV0zAmUHA@mail.gmail.com>
	<8D0F563664305DA-1A9C-20969@webmail-m272.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8D0F5639F07303A-1A9C-209AA@webmail-m272.sysops.aol.com>



FYI

-----Original Message-----
From: perrysandy <perrysandy at aol.com>
To: kghasri <kghasri at gmail.com>; Pkoteen <Pkoteen at aol.com>
Cc: gregjan4 <gregjan4 at yahoo.com>; helofavalkyrie <helofavalkyrie at gmail.com>; nate136_66 <nate136_66 at yahoo.com>; dsilver <dsilver at greens.org>; david <david at movetoamend.org>; jhepke <jhepke at gmail.com>; lakecountygreenparty <lakecountygreenparty at gmail.com>; marnie.glickman <marnie.glickman at gmail.com>; marnie <marnie at greenchange.com>; davidscurtis <davidscurtis at earthlink.net>; alexshantz <alexshantz at gmail.com>; napacountygreenparty <napacountygreenparty at gmail.com>; makuahineaina <makuahineaina at yahoo.com>; jrands <jrands at earthlink.net>; dadcab <dadcab at sbcglobal.net>; gdjohnson2 <gdjohnson2 at juno.com>; rrodarte <rrodarte at cox.net>; mrl <mrl at greens.org>; gbsb51 <gbsb51 at gmail.com>; hugh <hugh at sdgreenparty.org>; timc2 <timc2 at sbcglobal.net>; erikasf <erikasf at aol.com>; jmc <jmc at sfgreens.org>; marquequark <marquequark at yahoo.com>; donald <donald at snowcrest.net>; whastings <whastings at earthlink.net>; ukapole <ukapole at att.net>; amtelwest <amtelwest at earthlink.net>; victronix01 <victronix01 at yahoo.com>; erucq.garcia <erucq.garcia at gmail.com>; timlaidman <timlaidman at yahoo.com>; jpmcfadden925 <jpmcfadden925 at yahoo.com>; scofield <scofield at omsoft.com>; rich <rich at zeeprime.com>; info <info at greenpartymonterey.org>; jared.laiti <jared.laiti at gmail.com>; danasg <danasg at greens.org>; gerrygras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>; WB4D23 <WB4D23 at aol.com>; j.m.doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; spencer.graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; sanda.greensolutions <sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com>; sanda <sanda at greens.org>; ecplot <ecplot at gmail.com>; gloria <gloria at extragalactic.net>; barbara.bardwell <barbara.bardwell at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 9:11 am
Subject: Re: FYI, valid sigs out of totals


Hi Kamran,
 
After turning in additional signatures yesterday, the registrar here in Santa Clara County confirmed today that our total VALID signatures to date here in Santa Clara County are as follows:
 
Luis Rodriguez: 148
Laura Wells: 146
Ellen Brown: 143
David Curtis: 147
 
Sandy Perry
San Jose

-----Original Message-----
From: Kamran Ghasri <kghasri at gmail.com>
To: Pkoteen <Pkoteen at aol.com>
Cc: Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com>; Kristen Larson <helofavalkyrie at gmail.com>; Richard <nate136_66 at yahoo.com>; Dana Silvernale <dsilver at greens.org>; David Cobb <david at movetoamend.org>; Johannes Epke <jhepke at gmail.com>; chip saucer <lakecountygreenparty at gmail.com>; Marnie Glickman <marnie.glickman at gmail.com>; marnie <marnie at greenchange.com>; David Curtis <davidscurtis at earthlink.net>; Alex Shantz <alexshantz at gmail.com>; Erica Martenson <napacountygreenparty at gmail.com>; makuahineaina <makuahineaina at yahoo.com>; Jane Rands <jrands at earthlink.net>; Sandy Stiassni <dadcab at sbcglobal.net>; Gordon Johnson <gdjohnson2 at juno.com>; Ron Rodarte <rrodarte at cox.net>; mrl <mrl at greens.org>; gbsb51 <gbsb51 at gmail.com>; hugh <hugh at sdgreenparty.org>; timc2 <timc2 at sbcglobal.net>; erikasf <erikasf at aol.com>; jmc <jmc at sfgreens.org>; marquequark <marquequark at yahoo.com>; Donald Yost <donald at snowcrest.net>; whastings <whastings at earthlink.net>; Susan1685 . <ukapole at att.net>; amtelwest <amtelwest at earthlink.net>; victronix01 <victronix01 at yahoo.com>; Aaron Garcia <erucq.garcia at gmail.com>; Tim Laidman <timlaidman at yahoo.com>; James Mcfadden <jpmcfadden925 at yahoo.com>; Bob Scofield <scofield at omsoft.com>; Rich Zitola <rich at zeeprime.com>; info <info at greenpartymonterey.org>; Jared Laiti <jared.laiti at gmail.com>; danasg <danasg at greens.org>; Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>; WB4D23 <WB4D23 at aol.com>; Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; Sanda Everette <sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com>; Sanda Everette <sanda at greens.org>; Eric Peterson <ecplot at gmail.com>; Gloria Purcell <gloria at extragalactic.net>; Sandy Perry <perrysandy at aol.com>; Barbara Bardwell <barbara.bardwell at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:56 am
Subject: Re: FYI, valid sigs out of totals




Hi Peggy;


  1 - We don't really know. Only a couple of counties have reported and the validation rate is similar to you, about 75-80%.

   2- I'm sharing this message with everybody, so we can get updates from other counties. Thanks.


Kamran Ghasri
310-248-0414




On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:49 PM,  <Pkoteen at aol.com> wrote:


I have turned in approx 80 sigs per candidates SO FAR.  They have been validated:
 
Laura: 71 of 79
Ellen   66 of 80
David 71  of 79
Luis  69 of 78
 
1.Wondering what the VALID rate is among other counties.
 
2. Can we have an update of how many signatures have been validated and the total of how many have been collected, please.
 
Peggy Koteen
SLO County





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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Tue Feb 11 09:16:41 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (rainbeaufriend at riseup.net)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:16:41 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] California's War on Third Parties
Message-ID: <46997f3d8dc7772e640aa85bb3243dad.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net>

http://beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=12324

Guest Editorial: California's War on Third Parties
by Chris Kavanagh? Feb. 10? 2014

Is California the most anti-democratic state of all the 50 US states?

I ask this question because---unbelievably---California's traditional
"third" (or minor) political party candidates have effectively been
disenfranchised from gaining access to the statewide California ballot in
2014.

Since 2010, unlike almost every US state and the vast majority of nations
around the world, California has imposed unreasonable----and brazenly
unconstitutional----barriers that prevent third parties from fielding
candidates for State and Federal offices during the election season.

This situation has resulted in an unprecedented drop in third party
candidates attaining ballot status, including the Green Party, Peace and
Freedom Party and Libertarian Party among others.

In 2010, a total of 74 third party candidates appeared on the California
ballot for Governor, US House, State Assembly and State Senate among other
State and Federal offices. In 2012----shockingly---only 13 third party
candidates managed to attain ballot status.

What has been the cause of this dramatic collapse in third party ballot
access? One reason is cost: in 2010, a statewide third party candidate
could attain ballot status by submitting a $150 filing fee. Today, that
fee has increased by 2000 percent----to $3000 per statewide candidate.

For the Green Party of California to field four statewide candidates would
cost $12,000 total. For a party that rejects corporate money, this amount
is an onerous hardship. In lieu of paying $12,000 in ballot fees, the
Green Party must collect 40,000 valid signatures (60,000 as insurance) to
place four statewide candidates on the ballot---an even more onerous
hardship.

Meanwhile, the wealthy and corporate-funded state Democratic and
Republican parties can write $3000 checks for each of their statewide
candidates without flinching. This amount is chump change for the the two
corporate-backed major parties.

Even Russia allows qualified political parties to field candidates without
obstructing their access to the ballot. This situation is both shameful
and brazenly anti-democratic.

But the two party monopoly that controls California's government and
political system have remained silent and complicit. In fact, the two
major parties have enabled this situation

The above anti-democratic barriers imposed upon third parties are the
result of Proposition 14---placed on the 2010 ballot by both Democratic
and Republican party members of the State Legislature.

Outrageously, the original language of Proposition 14 omitted any mention
of a $3000 candidate fee or having to collect 10,000 signatures to qualify
a statewide candidate for the ballot. California's voters were effectively
hoodwinked when they passed Proposition 14 without knowing the facts.

The Green Party, Peace and Freedom Party and Libertarian Party have joined
forces in a pending law suit seeking to overturn Proposition 14 as
unconstitutional and undemocratic.

Meanwhile, the Green Party has launched a campaign to collect the 40,000
signatures necessary to place four statewide candidates on the June, 2014
election ballot. Any registered California voter can provide a signature.
The deadline to submit signatures is February 20.

For information on this campaign or to submit a signature,
visit http://www.cagreens.org/elections/2014




From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Tue Feb 11 11:53:54 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:53:54 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] solar energy, Abundance, and 350.org?
Message-ID: <52FA7FD2.4050201@structuremonitoring.com>

	  Diamandis and Kotler (2012) Abundance (Free Press; 
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance:_The_Future_Is_Better_Than_You_Think") 
suggest that the solar energy may already be cheaper than fossil fuels. 
  The economics depend on the subsidies, direct and indirect, that each 
gets.


	  The primary obstacle to improvement, I believe, is the commercial 
media.  If Verizon and others are able to block net neutrality, it will 
likely retard the development and deployment of the technologies 
required to reduce our dependencies on fossil fuels -- and make it 
easier for the ultra-wealthy to continue to enrich themselves at the 
expense of everyone else.


	  Spencer


#################


	  Energy collected by homeowners' panels taxed the state's power grid 
and the local utility has stopped connecting them.  The utility claims 
they can't do that safely, because the system wasn't designed for that. 
  Solar panel costs were 60 percent lower in the second quarter of 2013 
than they were in early 2011 
(http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/9/hawaii-s-solar-boomistoomuchofagoodthing.html). 



       Diamandis and Kotler (2012) Abundance (Free Press, esp. pp. 158ff 
and 268) claim that (a) solar today is already cheaper than coal -- or 
will be by 2016, and (b) continues to drop by 20 percent each time the 
installed base doubles.  They've also observed that solar today provides 
1 percent of the world's energy needs.  If we double that seven times, 
then solar will produce 128 percent of the world's energy needs.


ACTION PLAN:  We can help make this happen by checking the facts, 
understanding the counterarguments, and helping make these facts better 
known so the political process reduces subsidies for fossil fuels and 
uses this to help fight human contributions to global warming.  This 
includes checking relevant Wikipedia articles and making sure they 
mention these research results appropriately, that relevant news in this 
area get appropriately covered in the media, and the progress in these 
areas is appropriately converted into political action.


       Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Feb 11 16:27:28 2014
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:27:28 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] take action against mass surveillance by the NSA.
In-Reply-To: <45E3C535-61DC-4884-9D94-E13E263707C8@preville.net>
References: <2261913762.772020352@salsa3.salsa3DB.mail.salsalabs.com>
	<45E3C535-61DC-4884-9D94-E13E263707C8@preville.net>
Message-ID: <52FABFF0.3040302@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


       Below please find a request to call your Senators and 
Eepresentative to oppose mass surveillance by the NSA.  The organizers 
of this effort are asking for support for the USA Freedom Act (to reduce 
mass surveillance) and for opposition to S.1631 (the FISA Improvement 
Act to increase mass surveillance). Feinstein has made numerous 
statements supporting increasing state secrecy and mass surveillance, 
and a member of Boxer's staff said she has  not taken a position.


       This is the best organized effort of this kind I've seen: You can 
get an email sent to two Senators and a Representative in less than a 
minute and make phone calls in only a few minutes. Phone calls are 
great, because they allow you to ask questions.


       It was organized in part by the Electronic Frontier Foundation 
(EFF).  The system is not perfect:  It identifies a Representative for 
you based on your zip code alone.  This works fine roughly 95% of the 
time but failed for me.  (To find your representative, enter your zip 
code in the box under "Find your representative" at "house.gov".)


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


p.s.  My position on this is summarized in "Restrict government secrecy 
not data collection" (http://sanjosepeace.wordpress.com/).


>> *From: *
>> *Subj: **NSA*
>> *To: *
>>
>>
>> A few days ago we told you about today's massive action against mass 
>> spying.  We're calling it *The Day We Fight Back*, and dozens of 
>> large organizations and websites and thousands of smaller ones are 
>> mobilizing their members and visitors to demand an end to broad 
>> suspicion-less surveillance.
>>
>> If all of the organizations and sites that have signed on to the 
>> cause press forward today, we should be able to *drive tens of 
>> thousands of phone calls* to lawmakers to demand that the NSA's mass 
>> spying programs be reined in. *_Will you place one of those 
>> calls?_*  It'll only take 2 minutes, and we'll make it easy for you 
>> by giving you a call script and connecting you to the right office.
>>
>> -*Just click here to call your lawmakers. 
>> <http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=BTjRJZZ1idyzntj0E5%2BOLrkL0LuBnHq3>*
>>
>> -*Then, or if you can't call, please click here to send an email to 
>> your lawmakers. 
>> <http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=lFw7CEoHgnTsrWcAlHVKD7kL0LuBnHq3>*
>>
>> We understand the United States to be a *democracy*, founded upon a 
>> *Constitution *that affords us *critical rights*, and governed by 
>> the*rule of law*.
>>
>> Yet for years, the NSA has exploited secret legal interpretations to 
>> undermine our privacy rights -- thus chilling speech and activism, 
>> and thereby threatening to subvert the very underpinnings of our 
>> democracy itself.
>>
>> _*We are demanding that decision makers remedy this by*_:
>>
>>   * Passing the USA FREEDOM Act, which would end the bulk collection
>>     of Americans' phone records and institute other key reforms.
>>   * Defeating the so-called FISA Improvements Act, which would
>>     entrench -- and potentially expand -- the spying.
>>   * Creating additional privacy protections for non-Americans.
>>   * Ending the NSA's subversion of encryption and other data security
>>     measures.
>>
>> _*And we're not even that far from winning on at least one key front*_:
>>
>> The**_USA FREEDOM Act has more than 100 bipartisan sponsors_, 
>> including two powerful lead sponsors: Chairman of the Senate 
>> Judiciary Committee Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Representative James 
>> Sensenbrenner (R-WI), who was the original author of the PATRIOT Act 
>> and is furious that it has been abused to spy on Americans en masse.
>>
>> This summer an amendment that's very similar to parts of the USA 
>> FREEDOM Act failed to pass in the House of Representatives *by just a 
>> handful of votes*. Enough lawmakers now say they would have voted in 
>> support that *it would pass if it came up for a vote today*.
>>
>> Now we *need to force a vote on the issue in the House, and a first 
>> vote on it in the Senate *-- and we'll do that by putting pressure on 
>> lawmakers by calling and emailing them today. *Tens of thousands of 
>> people are poised to join the cause: Please be one of them.*
>>
>> -*Just click here to call your lawmakers. 
>> <http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=EPHjLpYUMPqEHVQC5MdPYzxGeqmE5LhA>*
>>
>> -*Then, or if you can't call, please click here to send an email to 
>> your lawmakers. 
>> <http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=n5acXY%2ByrWVIm2X3L3H%2Fj7kL0LuBnHq3>*
>>
>

-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:www.structuremonitoring.com

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Tue Feb 11 17:34:01 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:34:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
 Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
In-Reply-To: <52F468F9.8080409@structuremonitoring.com>
References: <52F468F9.8080409@structuremonitoring.com>
Message-ID: <8D0F5A9A40370F2-2A94-247CA@webmail-m226.sysops.aol.com>


Hi Spencer,

I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever.

I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.

With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.

Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council


Hello, All:


1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings.


2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS? 
ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).


** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position.


I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.


Best Wishes,
Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 11 20:50:25 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:50:25 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
 Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
In-Reply-To: <8D0F5A9A40370F2-2A94-247CA@webmail-m226.sysops.aol.com>
References: <52F468F9.8080409@structuremonitoring.com>,
	<8D0F5A9A40370F2-2A94-247CA@webmail-m226.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W108E95B28DDB860486C00E9E920@phx.gbl>

Hear, hear!

My feedback from the California Clean Money Campaign (which is out to get public finance for elections,
something every Green should support) was that when they were seeking GPSCC endorsement of the 
California DISCLOSE Act, they could not even get their phone calls returned.



To: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
From: perrysandy at aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:34:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council


Hi Spencer,

 

I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever.

 

I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.

 

With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.

 

Sandy





-----Original Message-----

From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>

To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>

Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm

Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council









Hello, All:


1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings.


2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS? 
ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).


** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position.


I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.


Best Wishes,
Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Feb 13 16:25:03 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:25:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protest against privatizing mail
Message-ID: <1392337503.91500.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

10:00 Friday morning there will be a protest outside the Cupertino Staples against privatizing the US mail. Why should we care? Think of all the union jobs that will be lost. Cost of mailing will be uncontrollable. Be there. Be seen being Green.
Caroline
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Fri Feb 14 17:55:09 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:55:09 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
 Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
In-Reply-To: <8D0F5A9A40370F2-2A94-247CA@webmail-m226.sysops.aol.com>
References: <52F468F9.8080409@structuremonitoring.com>
	<8D0F5A9A40370F2-2A94-247CA@webmail-m226.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <52FEC8FD.5060700@structuremonitoring.com>

Hi, Sandy:


       1.  Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council. Someone 
needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it official.


       2.  I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly meeting.  
For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest presentation or a movie 
followed by a discussion that would run until 9 PM followed by a half 
hour general business meeting with agenda organized by the County Council.


             2.1.  However, a change like this would require someone 
taking the lead to organize this.  The obvious lead organizers should, I 
think, be people most concerned about our major foci.  These are 
currently environment and universal health care.  Those are important, 
but I'm more concerned about government secrecy and democracy.  
Regarding the latter, I've recently attended regular meetings of the 
Santa Clara County Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the 
League of Women Voters.  I've already been able to restart stalled 
discussions on getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.


             2.2.  Is anyone interested in helping organize a showing of 
"Inequality for All"?  Just over an hour ago, I finally received word 
that we can now show "Inequality for All" on reasonable terms -- after 
having had tentative showing canceled twice because of misinformation 
about licensing.  Dream Menders will meet next Wednesday and discuss 
showing this at the Peace Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like 
March 16, 23, or 30.  Any preferences?


       3.  Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline Yacoub and 
others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night at the Peace 
Center for 2 years.  The results from that were OK but not adequate to 
justify the level of effort required to keep it going.  Before we change 
how we manage our monthly meeting(s), we need to ask Caroline and others 
what we should do to try to obtain greater success.


       Spencer


On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Spencer,
> I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last 
> resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority 
> candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will 
> dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on 
> the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for 
> the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and 
> broadly publicized.
> With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or 
> not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime 
> we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we 
> endorse their activity or not.
> Sandy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
> To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory 
> Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
> Hello, All:
>
>
> 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7.
> After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle,
> Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or
> phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next
> monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have
> been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to
> meetings.
>
>
> 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This
> Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election
> days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters.
> They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2
> (www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS?  <http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99>  
> ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).
>
>
> ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV)
> and increasing the volume of information available to the public
> including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings
> since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending
> these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would
> likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and
> Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is
> a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you
> don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this
> board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply.
> Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial
> District 2. This is an unpaid position.
>
>
> I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in
> serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
> Spencer
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Feb 14 18:41:41 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 18:41:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
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References: <52F468F9.8080409@structuremonitoring.com>
	<8D0F5A9A40370F2-2A94-247CA@webmail-m226.sysops.aol.com>
	<52FEC8FD.5060700@structuremonitoring.com>
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As to numbers 2.2 and?3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.

As to number 2.1, Attaboy!

Caroline

 

________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
  


Hi, Sandy:? 


????? 1.? Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council.?
      Someone needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it
      official.? 


????? 2.? I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly
      meeting.? For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest
      presentation or a movie followed by a discussion that would run
      until 9 PM followed by a half hour general business meeting with
      agenda organized by the County Council.? 


??? ??????? 2.1.? However, a change like this would require
      someone taking the lead to organize this.? The obvious lead
      organizers should, I think, be people most concerned about our
      major foci.? These are currently environment and universal health
      care.? Those are important, but I'm more concerned about
      government secrecy and democracy.? Regarding the latter, I've
      recently attended regular meetings of the Santa Clara County
      Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the League of Women
      Voters.? I've already been able to restart stalled discussions on
      getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.? 


??? ??????? 2.2.? Is anyone interested in helping organize a
      showing of "Inequality for All"?? Just over an hour ago, I finally
      received word that we can now show "Inequality for All" on
      reasonable terms -- after having had tentative showing canceled
      twice because of misinformation about licensing.? Dream Menders
      will meet next Wednesday and discuss showing this at the Peace
      Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like March 16, 23, or
      30.? Any preferences?? 


??? ? 3.? Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline
      Yacoub and others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night
      at the Peace Center for 2 years.? The results from that were OK
      but not adequate to justify the level of effort required to keep
      it going.? Before we change how we manage our monthly meeting(s),
      we need to ask Caroline and others what we should do to try to
      obtain greater success.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
 
Hi Spencer, 
>
>I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever. 
>
>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized. 
>
>With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not. 
>
>Sandy 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'
          Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
>
>Hello, All: 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings. 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS). ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position. I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities. Best Wishes,
Spencer _______________________________________________
sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss      


-- 
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: http://www.structuremonitoring.com/   
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 14 19:23:12 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:23:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'
	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
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As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, such as Genetic Roulette.? As for organizing anything, don't look to me to start something and then leave town in June. 


John Thielking



________________________________
 From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


As to numbers 2.2 and?3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.

As to number 2.1, Attaboy!

Caroline


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


Hi, Sandy:? 


????? 1.? Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council.?
      Someone needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it
      official.? 


????? 2.? I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly
      meeting.? For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest
      presentation or a movie followed by a discussion that would run
      until 9 PM followed by a half hour general business meeting with
      agenda organized by the County Council.? 


??? ??????? 2.1.? However, a change like this would require
      someone taking the lead to organize this.? The obvious lead
      organizers should, I think, be people most concerned about our
      major foci.? These are currently environment and universal health
      care.? Those are important, but I'm more concerned about
      government secrecy and democracy.? Regarding the latter, I've
      recently attended regular meetings of the Santa Clara County
      Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the League of Women
      Voters.? I've already been able to restart stalled discussions on
      getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.? 


??? ??????? 2.2.? Is anyone interested in helping organize a
      showing of "Inequality for All"?? Just over an hour ago, I finally
      received word that we can now show "Inequality for All" on
      reasonable terms -- after having had tentative showing canceled
      twice because of misinformation about licensing.? Dream Menders
      will meet next Wednesday and discuss showing this at the Peace
      Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like March 16, 23, or
      30.? Any preferences?? 


??? ? 3.? Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline
      Yacoub and others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night
      at the Peace Center for 2 years.? The results from that were OK
      but not adequate to justify the level of effort required to keep
      it going.? Before we change how we manage our monthly meeting(s),
      we need to ask Caroline and others what we should do to try to
      obtain greater success.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:

Hi Spencer,
>?
>I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
>?
>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>?
>With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.
>?
>Sandy
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'
          Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
>
>Hello, All: 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings. 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS). ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position. I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities. Best Wishes,
Spencer _______________________________________________
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President and Chief Technology Officer
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751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: http://www.structuremonitoring.com/ 

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 14 19:35:30 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:35:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for
	Citizens'	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
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As I recall I was only required to pay the $150 for showing Inconveinent Truth because I was showing it at my store. If I were doing one of the other house parties where I was showing it at a private residence, I was not required to get a public viewing license. Presumably the people running the house parties were also NOT collecting donations.? So if you want to be 100% legit on movie night and show mainstream movies without permission you could try showing them at a private residence. I'd have to get back to you after I talk to my lawyer about asking for donations in that situation.

John Thielking



________________________________
 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, such as Genetic Roulette.? As for organizing anything, don't look to me to start something and then leave town in June. 


John Thielking



________________________________
 From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


As to numbers 2.2 and?3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.

As to number 2.1, Attaboy!

Caroline


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


Hi, Sandy:? 


????? 1.? Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council.?
      Someone needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it
      official.? 


????? 2.? I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly
      meeting.? For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest
      presentation or a movie followed by a discussion that would run
      until 9 PM followed by a half hour general business meeting with
      agenda organized by the County Council.? 


??? ??????? 2.1.? However, a change like this would require
      someone taking the lead to organize this.? The obvious lead
      organizers should, I think, be people most concerned about our
      major foci.? These are currently environment and universal health
      care.? Those are important, but I'm more concerned about
      government secrecy and democracy.? Regarding the latter, I've
      recently attended regular meetings of the Santa Clara County
      Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the League of Women
      Voters.? I've already been able to restart stalled discussions on
      getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.? 


??? ??????? 2.2.? Is anyone interested in helping organize a
      showing of "Inequality for All"?? Just over an hour ago, I finally
      received word that we can now show "Inequality for All" on
      reasonable terms -- after having had tentative showing canceled
      twice because of misinformation about licensing.? Dream Menders
      will meet next Wednesday and discuss showing this at the Peace
      Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like March 16, 23, or
      30.? Any preferences?? 


??? ? 3.? Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline
      Yacoub and others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night
      at the Peace Center for 2 years.? The results from that were OK
      but not adequate to justify the level of effort required to keep
      it going.? Before we change how we manage our monthly meeting(s),
      we need to ask Caroline and others what we should do to try to
      obtain greater success.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:

Hi Spencer,
>?
>I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
>?
>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>?
>With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.
>?
>Sandy
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'
          Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
>
>Hello, All: 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings. 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS). ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position. I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities. Best Wishes,
Spencer _______________________________________________
sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss 


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: http://www.structuremonitoring.com/ 

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Fri Feb 14 21:28:11 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 00:28:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'
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As far as a movie night goes, I would strongly recommend that we team up with EDGE, if they are willing, and co-sponsor their fourth Friday Economic Justice Film Series. EDGE is a group of about a half-dozen former Labor Party members who sponsor this film series plus Economics for Activists. Although they are not Greens themselves (except for me), they are definitely Green-friendly, and they are definitely open to showing environmental as well as economic movies. They screened "Bidder 70" earlier this year and three weeks ago showed a movie on species extinction.

I am willing to ask them if they would be willing to share sponsorship of the film series with us, and we could even possibly discuss changing its name, although I do not think they would want to call it a "Green Party" film series. On the other hand, I believe they would be happy to let us discuss our ideas, make our announcements, and generally have a strong presence at these movies if we wanted to. (I got a lot of signatures for our candidates at the last one).

If we join forces we could share costs, increase attendance, and all of us get to know each other better. Just an idea.

I will agendize some of these ideas for discussion at our GPSCC meeting Feb 27.


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; perrysandy <perrysandy at aol.com>; sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 7:23 pm
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council



As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, such as Genetic Roulette.  As for organizing anything, don't look to me to start something and then leave town in June. 



John Thielking



  
 
 
 
   From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
 To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
  
 




As to numbers 2.2 and 3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.


As to number 2.1, Attaboy!


Caroline




  
 
 
 
   From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
 To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
  
 


          
    
Hi, Sandy:  
      
      
            1.  Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council.       Someone needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it      official.  
      
      
            2.  I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly      meeting.  For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest      presentation or a movie followed by a discussion that would run      until 9 PM followed by a half hour general business meeting with      agenda organized by the County Council.  
      
      
                  2.1.  However, a change like this would require      someone taking the lead to organize this.  The obvious lead      organizers should, I think, be people most concerned about our      major foci.  These are currently environment and universal health      care.  Those are important, but I'm more concerned about      government secrecy and democracy.  Regarding the latter, I've      recently attended regular meetings of the Santa Clara County      Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the League of Women      Voters.  I've already been able to restart stalled discussions on      getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.  
      
      
                  2.2.  Is anyone interested in helping organize a      showing of "Inequality for All"?  Just over an hour ago, I finally      received word that we can now show "Inequality for All" on      reasonable terms -- after having had tentative showing canceled      twice because of misinformation about licensing.  Dream Menders      will meet next Wednesday and discuss showing this at the Peace      Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like March 16, 23, or      30.  Any preferences?  
      
      
            3.  Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline      Yacoub and others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night      at the Peace Center for 2 years.  The results from that were OK      but not adequate to justify the level of effort required to keep      it going.  Before we change how we manage our monthly meeting(s),      we need to ask Caroline and others what we should do to try to      obtain greater success.  
      
      
            Spencer 
      
      
      On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
    
    
        
Hi Spencer,
        
 
        
I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only          as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit          minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our          County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to          one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at          the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting          riper than ever.
        
 
        
I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew          a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees          as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza.          To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by          the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member).          To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or          organizing event geared toward new members and prospective          members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly          publicized.
        
 
        
With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about          whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects,          while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care          less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.
        
 
        
Sandy
        
-----Original Message-----
          From: Spencer Graves          mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
          To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
          Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
          Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'          Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
          
          
            
Hello, All:


1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings.


2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 
ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).


** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position.


I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.


Best Wishes,
Spencer

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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
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web:  http://www.structuremonitoring.com/

  



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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Fri Feb 14 22:44:36 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:44:36 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory
	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Drew <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net>
Sent: Fri Feb 14 22:37:39 PST 2014
To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council

De Anza College is getting it's own copy and licensing of "Inequality for all" and maybe the De Anza Green Party club could arrange for a showing. :)

Green is grow!

Drew

Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com> wrote:
>Hi, Sandy:
>
>
>       1.  Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council. Someone 
>needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it official.
>
>
>       2.  I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly meeting.  
>For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest presentation or a
>movie 
>followed by a discussion that would run until 9 PM followed by a half 
>hour general business meeting with agenda organized by the County
>Council.
>
>
>             2.1.  However, a change like this would require someone 
>taking the lead to organize this.  The obvious lead organizers should,
>I 
>think, be people most concerned about our major foci.  These are 
>currently environment and universal health care.  Those are important, 
>but I'm more concerned about government secrecy and democracy.  
>Regarding the latter, I've recently attended regular meetings of the 
>Santa Clara County Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the 
>League of Women Voters.  I've already been able to restart stalled 
>discussions on getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara
>County.
>
>
>           2.2.  Is anyone interested in helping organize a showing of 
>"Inequality for All"?  Just over an hour ago, I finally received word 
>that we can now show "Inequality for All" on reasonable terms -- after 
>having had tentative showing canceled twice because of misinformation 
>about licensing.  Dream Menders will meet next Wednesday and discuss 
>showing this at the Peace Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like
>
>March 16, 23, or 30.  Any preferences?
>
>
>     3.  Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline Yacoub and 
>others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night at the Peace 
>Center for 2 years.  The results from that were OK but not adequate to 
>justify the level of effort required to keep it going.  Before we
>change 
>how we manage our monthly meeting(s), we need to ask Caroline and
>others 
>what we should do to try to obtain greater success.
>
>
>       Spencer
>
>
>On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
>> Hi Spencer,
>> I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last
>
>> resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority 
>> candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will 
>> dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on 
>> the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for 
>> the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
>> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
>> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
>> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main
>
>> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
>> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership
>
>> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
>> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions,
>and 
>> broadly publicized.
>> With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or
>
>> not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime 
>> we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we 
>> endorse their activity or not.
>> Sandy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>> To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
>> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory 
>> Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>>
>> Hello, All:
>>
>>
>> 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7.
>> After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle,
>> Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email
>or
>> phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the
>next
>> monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and
>have
>> been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come
>to
>> meetings.
>>
>>
>> 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS:
>This
>> Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election
>> days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of
>Voters.
>> They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2
>> (www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS? 
><http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99>
> 
>> ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).
>>
>>
>> ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting
>(IRV)
>> and increasing the volume of information available to the public
>> including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings
>> since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending
>> these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we
>would
>> likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco
>and
>> Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners
>is
>> a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that
>you
>> don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this
>> board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply.
>> Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in
>Supervisorial
>> District 2. This is an unpaid position.
>>
>>
>> I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in
>> serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these
>capacities.
>>
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Spencer
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
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>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>
>-- 
>Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
>President and Chief Technology Officer
>Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
>751 Emerson Ct.
>San Jos?, CA 95126
>ph:  408-655-4567
>web:  www.structuremonitoring.com
>
>
>
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>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 15 07:19:35 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 07:19:35 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Bank Usury
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"Usurious Returns on Phantom Money: The Credit Card Gravy Train"
"The credit card business is now the banking industry?s biggest cash
cow, and it?s largely due to lucrative hidden fees."
by Ellen Brown

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/02/15-0

Gerry


From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Feb 15 07:51:25 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 07:51:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: TEDx
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Sat Feb 15 14:47:44 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:47:44 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Special Electoral Reform agenda for Feb. 27 mtg?
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Hello, All:


       1.  What do you think about modifying the agenda for our Feb. 27 
meeting so it starts 7 PM with a 1-hour panel discussion of electoral 
reform, with speakers depending on whom we can get with this short 
notice?  Then at 8 or 8:30 we could move to a shortened version of our 
regular agenda.  We could still finish by 9:30 PM by moving moderate to 
long discussions to email, telephone or another meeting.


             * Richard Hobbs is eager to come, I think, because his 
chapter of Move to Amend wants signatures, signature gathers and money 
for an initiative they want to put on the ballot this year. Someone like 
Craig Dunkerly from the California Clean Money campaign might want to 
speak.  Two campaign finance disclosure bills passed the California 
Senate last year but were stalled in the Assembly (SB 27 and SB 52).  I 
think we can help build momentum to get something passed in this area.  
CA Clean supports SB 52 but hardly mentions SB 27.  Common Cause 
supports SB 27.  I don't know if we can get someone from Common Cause to 
participate in a panel Feb. 27.  Getting someone from CA Clean seems 
more likely.


       2.  If you like this idea, what do you think about organizing a 
discussion of Instant Runoff Voting for March 27?  We could probably get 
someone like Steve Chessin from Californians for Electoral Reform, the 
primary organization pushing IRV.  I also want to invite Gloria Chun 
Hoo, President of the Santa Clara / San Jos? chapter of the League of 
Women Voters.  She's a known IRV opponent.  I've so far been unable to 
find out why she opposes IRV.  By inviting her to debate with someone 
like Chessin, we may learn something and advance this issue.


       3.  If these go well, I would like to organize something around 
citizen-funded elections and news.  By this I mean something like a tax 
rebate for the first $50 or so that people give each year or every two 
years to a political campaign or to the media of their choice.  The 
first could generate more campaign contributions than currently provided 
by the big money.  The second could fund substantive investigative 
journalism at a level far beyond anything we've seen any place in human 
history and could provide the information people need to get past the 
propaganda that currently dominates mainstream broadcasting.


       What do you think?
       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


###################


Hi, Sandy:


       1.  Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council. Someone 
needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it official.


       2.  I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly meeting.  
For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest presentation or a movie 
followed by a discussion that would run until 9 PM followed by a half 
hour general business meeting with agenda organized by the County Council.


             2.1.  However, a change like this would require someone 
taking the lead to organize this.  The obvious lead organizers should, I 
think, be people most concerned about our major foci.  These are 
currently environment and universal health care.  Those are important, 
but I'm more concerned about government secrecy and democracy.  
Regarding the latter, I've recently attended regular meetings of the 
Santa Clara County Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the 
League of Women Voters.  I've already been able to restart stalled 
discussions on getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.


             2.2.  Is anyone interested in helping organize a showing of 
"Inequality for All"?  Just over an hour ago, I finally received word 
that we can now show "Inequality for All" on reasonable terms -- after 
having had tentative showing canceled twice because of misinformation 
about licensing.  Dream Menders will meet next Wednesday and discuss 
showing this at the Peace Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like 
March 16, 23, or 30.  Any preferences?


       3.  Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline Yacoub and 
others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night at the Peace 
Center for 2 years.  The results from that were OK but not adequate to 
justify the level of effort required to keep it going.  Before we change 
how we manage our monthly meeting(s), we need to ask Caroline and others 
what we should do to try to obtain greater success.


       Spencer


On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Spencer,
> I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last 
> resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority 
> candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will 
> dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on 
> the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for 
> the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and 
> broadly publicized.
> With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or 
> not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime 
> we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we 
> endorse their activity or not.
> Sandy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
> To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory 
> Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
> Hello, All:
>
>
> 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7.
> After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle,
> Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or
> phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next
> monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have
> been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to
> meetings.
>
>
> 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This
> Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election
> days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters.
> They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2
> (www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS?  <http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99>  
> ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).
>
>
> ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV)
> and increasing the volume of information available to the public
> including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings
> since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending
> these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would
> likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and
> Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is
> a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you
> don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this
> board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply.
> Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial
> District 2. This is an unpaid position.
>
>
> I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in
> serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
> Spencer
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org  <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:www.structuremonitoring.com

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Sat Feb 15 18:03:25 2014
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:03:25 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
In-Reply-To: <53000F02.7010903@sonic.net>
References: <53000F02.7010903@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <53001C6D.4090607@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


       We have an offer of a speaker for Feb. 27;  see below.


       Shall we accept?  What about also asking others like Richard Hobbs?


       Thanks,
       Spencer


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: SB 27 v. 52?
Date: 	Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:06:10 -0800
From: 	Nancy Neff <nrneff at sonic.net>
Reply-To: 	nancy at neffs.net
To: 	Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org>
CC: 	California Clean Money Campaign <newsletter at caclean.org>



Hi Spencer,

SB 27 and SB 52 work together.  California Clean Money Campaign is 
actively pushing both of them, and Common Cause is a key endorser and 
partner with us on SB 52.

In a nutshell, SB 27 contains follow-the-money language to make 
non-profits have to disclose the original donors if more than $50,000 is 
spent on political ads.  That information goes onto the Secretary of 
State website.  Then, SB 52 causes the top 3 donors to be clearly 
presented on the ads themselves.

I don't know of a side-by-side comparison, but you could look at the 
Legislative Analyst Office summaries: 
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billSearchClient.xhtml

I could attend your meeting on Feb. 27 and either give a brief 
presentation of the two bills or just be available to answer questions.  
A few years ago I gave your group a presentation on the earlier version 
of the CA DISCLOSE Act, AB 1648.

Nancy

--
Nancy Neff
Regional Volunteer Coordinator
California Clean Money Campaign
(650) 858-2436
www.CAdisclose.org <http://www.caclean.org/>
*Support SB 52, the/California DISCLOSE Act/, to show who/really/pays 
for political ads!*

*Become a regular or monthly member today to help end the dominance of 
Big Money in politics:
*www.CAdisclose.org/join <http://www.yesfairelections.org/join>


On 2/15/2014 12:33 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:
>       What are the differences between SB 27 and 52?


<snip>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Sat Feb 15 19:36:23 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 22:36:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
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I believe we should accept Nancy Neff. I do not believe we should have Richard at the same meeting, perhaps at the following meeting.


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 6:03 pm
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?


          
    Hello, All:  
    
    
          We have an offer of a speaker for Feb. 27;  see below.  
    
    
          Shall we accept?  What about also asking others like Richard    Hobbs?  
    
    
          Thanks, 
          Spencer 
    

      
      -------- Original Message --------      
        
          
            
Subject:            
            
Re: SB 27 v. 52?
          
          
            
Date: 
            
Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:06:10 -0800
          
          
            
From: 
            
Nancy Neff <nrneff at sonic.net>
          
          
            
Reply-To:            
            
nancy at neffs.net
          
          
            
To: 
            
Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org>
          
          
            
CC: 
            
California Clean Money Campaign <newsletter at caclean.org>
          
        
      
      
      
            Hi Spencer,
      
      SB 27 and SB 52 work together.  California Clean Money Campaign is      actively pushing both of them, and Common Cause is a key endorser      and partner with us on SB 52.
      
      In a nutshell, SB 27 contains follow-the-money language to make      non-profits have to disclose the original donors if more than      $50,000 is spent on political ads.  That information goes onto the      Secretary of State website.  Then, SB 52 causes the top 3 donors      to be clearly presented on the ads themselves.
      
      I don't know of a side-by-side comparison, but you could look at      the Legislative Analyst Office summaries:  http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billSearchClient.xhtml
      
      I could attend your meeting on Feb. 27 and either give a brief      presentation of the two bills or just be available to answer      questions.  A few years ago I gave your group a presentation on      the earlier version of the CA DISCLOSE Act, AB 1648.
      
      Nancy
      
      -- 
      Nancy Neff
      Regional Volunteer Coordinator
      California Clean Money Campaign
      (650) 858-2436
      www.CAdisclose.org
      Support SB 52, the California DISCLOSE          Act, to show who really pays for political        ads! 
      
      Become a regular or        monthly member today to help end the dominance of Big Money in        politics:
      www.CAdisclose.org/join
      
      
      
On 2/15/2014 12:33 PM, Spencer Graves        wrote:
      
      
                
      What are the differences          between SB 27 and 52? 
        
      
      
      
      <snip>
    
    
    
    
-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

  

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Sat Feb 15 20:46:18 2014
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 20:46:18 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
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       Could I hear from others?  In general, I support Move to Amend, 
though I've been negatively impressed with their apparent reticence to 
working in coalition with others.  Richard Hobbs' MTA group is pushing 
an initiative, which I find acceptable and appropriate but not exciting 
or inspired.  Both his signature collection efforts and the work of the 
California Clean Money campaign are time sensitive right now. I think 
there is enough synergy between MTA and CA Clean that I think it would 
be reasonable to have them both come together.  And asking Richard to 
share a podium with Nancy Neff might encourage him to be more open to 
coalitions.


       If we ask only Nancy Neff, should we give her a half hour or an 
hour, and should that time begin at 7 or 7:30 PM?


       Thanks,
       Spencer


On 2/15/2014 7:36 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> I believe we should accept Nancy Neff. I do not believe we should have 
> Richard at the same meeting, perhaps at the following meeting.
> Sandy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
> To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 6:03 pm
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
>
> Hello, All:
>
>
>       We have an offer of a speaker for Feb. 27;  see below.
>
>
>       Shall we accept?  What about also asking others like Richard Hobbs?
>
>
>       Thanks,
>       Spencer
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: SB 27 v. 52?
> Date: 	Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:06:10 -0800
> From: 	Nancy Neff <nrneff at sonic.net>
> Reply-To: 	nancy at neffs.net
> To: 	Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org>
> CC: 	California Clean Money Campaign <newsletter at caclean.org>
>
>
>
> Hi Spencer,
>
> SB 27 and SB 52 work together.  California Clean Money Campaign is 
> actively pushing both of them, and Common Cause is a key endorser and 
> partner with us on SB 52.
>
> In a nutshell, SB 27 contains follow-the-money language to make 
> non-profits have to disclose the original donors if more than $50,000 
> is spent on political ads.  That information goes onto the Secretary 
> of State website. Then, SB 52 causes the top 3 donors to be clearly 
> presented on the ads themselves.
>
> I don't know of a side-by-side comparison, but you could look at the 
> Legislative Analyst Office summaries: 
> http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billSearchClient.xhtml
>
> I could attend your meeting on Feb. 27 and either give a brief 
> presentation of the two bills or just be available to answer 
> questions.  A few years ago I gave your group a presentation on the 
> earlier version of the CA DISCLOSE Act, AB 1648.
>
> Nancy
>
> --
> Nancy Neff
> Regional Volunteer Coordinator
> California Clean Money Campaign
> (650) 858-2436
> www.CAdisclose.org <http://www.caclean.org/>
> *Support SB 52, the/California DISCLOSE Act/, to show who/really/pays 
> for political ads!*
>
> *Become a regular or monthly member today to help end the dominance of 
> Big Money in politics:
> *www.CAdisclose.org/join <http://www.yesfairelections.org/join>
>
>
> On 2/15/2014 12:33 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:
>>       What are the differences between SB 27 and 52?
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> -- 
> Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
> President and Chief Technology Officer
> Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
> 751 Emerson Ct.
> San Jos?, CA 95126
> ph:  408-655-4567
> web:www.structuremonitoring.com
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 16 07:33:44 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:33:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
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The more the merrier I say. Let them both speak at our next meeting.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
 


??? ? Could I hear from others?? In general, I support Move to Amend, though I've been negatively impressed with their apparent reticence to working in coalition with others.? Richard Hobbs' MTA group is pushing an initiative, which I find acceptable and appropriate but not exciting or inspired.? Both his signature collection efforts and the work of the California Clean Money campaign are time sensitive right now.? I think there is enough synergy between MTA and CA Clean that I think it would be reasonable to have them both come together.? And asking Richard to share a podium with Nancy Neff might encourage him to be more open to coalitions.? 


????? If we ask only Nancy Neff, should we give her a half hour or
      an hour, and should that time begin at 7 or 7:30 PM?? 


????? Thanks, 
????? Spencer 


On 2/15/2014 7:36 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:

I believe we should accept Nancy Neff. I do not believe we should have Richard at the same meeting, perhaps at the following meeting.
>?
>?
>Sandy
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 6:03 pm
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
>
>
>Hello, All:? 
>
>
>????? We have an offer of a speaker for Feb. 27;? see
              below.? 
>
>
>????? Shall we accept?? What about also asking others like
              Richard Hobbs?? 
>
>
>????? Thanks, 
>????? Spencer 
>
>
>
>-------- Original Message -------- 
>Subject: Re: SB 27 v. 52? 
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:06:10 -0800 
>From: Nancy Neff <nrneff at sonic.net> 
>Reply-To: nancy at neffs.net 
>To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org> 
>CC: California Clean Money Campaign <newsletter at caclean.org> 
>
>Hi Spencer,
>
>SB 27 and SB 52 work together.? California Clean Money
                Campaign is actively pushing both of them, and Common
                Cause is a key endorser and partner with us on SB 52.
>
>In a nutshell, SB 27 contains follow-the-money language
                to make non-profits have to disclose the original donors
                if more than $50,000 is spent on political ads.? That
                information goes onto the Secretary of State website.?
                Then, SB 52 causes the top 3 donors to be clearly
                presented on the ads themselves.
>
>I don't know of a side-by-side comparison, but you could
                look at the Legislative Analyst Office summaries:? http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billSearchClient.xhtml
>
>I could attend your meeting on Feb. 27 and either give a
                brief presentation of the two bills or just be available
                to answer questions.? A few years ago I gave your group
                a presentation on the earlier version of the CA DISCLOSE
                Act, AB 1648.
>
>Nancy
>
>--?
>Nancy Neff
>Regional Volunteer Coordinator
>California Clean Money Campaign
>(650) 858-2436
>www.CAdisclose.org
>Support SB 52, the?California DISCLOSE Act, to show who?really?pays for political ads!?
>
>Become a regular or monthly member today to help end the dominance of Big Money in politics:
>www.CAdisclose.org/join
>
>
>
>On 2/15/2014 12:33 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:
>
>????? What are the differences between SB 27 and 52? 
>>
>
><snip>
>
>
>
>-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: www.structuremonitoring.com 
>_______________________________________________
sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss 


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: www.structuremonitoring.com 

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From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:35:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Thanks for signing Make Public College Tuition-Free
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From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 08:48:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "ronniecummins at organicconsumers.org" <ronniecummins at organicconsumers.org> 
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
 


Sent to feedback at rttv.ru today:

The full 2-12-14 Larry 
King Now show is currently only available on youtube.com for 
international viewers. Viewers in the USA can't watch the full episode. 
The 2-14-14 Politicking episode is already posted on rt.com. So why is 
there such a long delay in posting the 2-12-14 Larry King Now episode?? 
Could it be that Larry King is getting some food industry flack for his 
airing of the GMO controversy on the 2-12-14 show? Please don't be a 
chicken %^$#. Please post the 2-12-14 Larry King Now episode 
immediately. Thank you.

Sincerely,
John Thielking


________________________________
 From: Organic Consumers Association <ronniecummins at organicconsumers.org>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:51 AM
Subject: GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
 


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ESSAY OF THE WEEK
For Whom the Bee Tolls 
?It is ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray.? ? Rachel Carson, Silent Spring
We know neonicotinoids, a class of pesticides, have been implicated in the mass die-off of honeybees.

But did you know who makes neonics? Syngenta, Bayer CropSciences and Dow Agrosciences.

And did you know who uses them, and for what purpose? Companies like Monsanto, Bayer, Dow Agrosciences . . . in the herbicides and pesticides and seeds they sell to farmers who grow genetically engineered crops. Crops that eventually end up in our food, or in the feed used to fatten up animals in factory farms?animals we slaughter for food.

We need bees in order to grow food, or at least some of it. Yet the food?GMO food?we are growing is killing the bees.
Read the essay
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ACTION ALERT
GMO Labeling Hot Potato? 
The Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) and its band of profiteers (28 industry groups masquerading as the Coalition for Affordable Safe Food),  have drafted their Bill to Kill GMO Labeling Laws.
But the bill won?t get off the ground unless the GMA can convince a couple of Congress members to sponsor it. It?s time to let every member of Congress know that consumers won?t sit by while Congress panders to the food, biotech and drug cartels, instead of standing up for our right to know.
So far, we know this about the GMA?s proposed law. It asks the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) to ?reaffirm? its ?role as the nation?s foremost authority on the use and labeling of foods containing genetically modified ingredients (GMOs).? Which, translated, means the GMA wants the FDA to revisit its 2001 ?voluntary guidance? on GMO labeling and come up with an unenforceable poor substitute for a federal mandatory labeling law.
What?s more, the GMA?s proposed bill would preempt existing and soon-to-be passed state GMO labeling laws (which, sensibly, call for mandatory, not voluntary compliance). And, it would make it officially OK to slap the word ?natural? on products containing GMOs. Which are, well, unnatural.
With your help, we?ve been petitioning the FDA to ignore the GMA?s appeal for a weak, watered-down voluntary GMO labeling law.
But now we wonder, which Congress member, in his or her right mind, would go against the will of more than  90 percentof voters to side with industry on what has become the most critical food (and environmental) safety issue of our time? Let?s be sure every member of Congress knows that consumers are dead set against the GMA?s proposed federal GMO labeling ?solution.? And that we?ll be watching to see which lawmakers support consumers. And which ones don?t.

TAKE ACTION: Tell Congress: Don?t sponsor an industry-crafted federal GMO labeling bill that would preempt states? rights to enact mandatory GMO labeling laws!
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? 
ACTION ALERT
Bees Don?t Like Agent Orange Crops, Either
There?s a long list of reasons the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) shouldn?t approve Dow?s new 2,4-D-resistant corn and soy seeds. But as long as we?re talking about bees this week, here?s another.
Besides being linked to cancer and birth defects in humans,  2,4-D, one of the most widely used herbicides in the U.S., is also toxic to honeybees. While the herbicide may not result in the immediate die-off of bees, scientists report that over time, it severely impairs their ability to reproduce.
If the USDA approves Dow?s new 2,4-D-resistant crops, scientists predict anywhere from a 25-fold to 50-fold increase in the use of 2,4-D herbicides.
That?s bad news for you, your health, your kids. And it?s bad news for bees.
The question is this. Whether you?re concerned about your health, or the health of the honeybee population, should a pesticide/herbicide manufacturer, one that produced the Agent Orange herbicide used widely in Vietnam (and which the U.S. government admitsis responsible for a host of illnesses in people exposed to it) be in the business of making seeds that produce food for your table?

DEADLINE February 24: TAKE ACTION: Tell the USDA: Don't Approve New 'Agent Orange' Crops!
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Not for the Faint of Heart
It?s Valentine?s Day. You knew there had to be a heart in there somewhere.
But it?s also true. The work we do, with your help, is full of challenges. It?s not for everyone. It?s surely not for the faint of heart.
Even as we continue to fight for something so basic as the right to know if our food has been contaminated by GMOs (genetically modified organisms), even as we endure narrow losses in that ongoing battle, encounter politicians too weak to stand up to Monsanto and Big Food, are forced to fend off the Grocery Manufacturers Association?s endless ploys to defeat labeling laws by stripping states of the right to enact their own laws . . . we keep going.
Because you keep us going.
The USDA is on the verge of approving more, and evermore dangerous, GMO crops, including Agent Orange Corn and Soy, and GMO apples. The FDA is biding its time until it approves Frankenfish.
And that?s not the half of it. We still have a long way to go before the general public makes the connection between GMO crops and food and all their related ills. Including factory farms. Loss of biodiversity. Climate change.
There are days when the hills feel too steep, the heart too faint. But we always get that second wind.
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GMO LEGISLATION UPDATE
Don?t GMO Me, Bro! 
Two states, Vermont and Maryland, made progress this week toward passing mandatory GMO labeling laws.
In Vermont, H.112, which was passed by the House last year, survived the Senate?s agriculture committee by a vote of 4 to 1. The vote took place following a lively public hearing in which voters shouted ?Don?t GMO Me, Bro!? and demanded the lawmakers pass the bill, without a trigger clause that would delay implementation.
Attorney General Bill Sorrell?is planting seeds of doubt about the bill, claiming industry will follow through with threats to sue the state, which could result in a long and costly legal battle. But the bill?s supporters say H.112 will stand up in court. And if industry really thought they could win a suit, they wouldn?t be working so hard to pass a law that would preempt state laws like Vermont?s.
Next stop for H.112? The Senate Judiciary Committee, where activists hope H.112 will sail through. Without a trigger clause.
Meanwhile, in Maryland, 19 lawmakers introduced H.B. 1191 last week (February 7). The bill, which would take effect in July 2015, is similar to other state bills in that it would require foods containing GMOs to bear a label that reads: "genetically engineered"; "produced with genetic engineering"; or "partially produced with genetic engineering."
Vermont GMO labeling bill H.112
Maryland GMO labeling bill H.B. 1191
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ORGANIC RETAIL AND CONSUMER ALLIANCE
No GMOs. No Nonsense. No Kidding. 
When it comes to GMOs (genetically modified organisms),?Sundance Natural Foods?couldn?t be more clear about its policy. No new product known to contain GMOs will ever make it onto the store?s shelves. And any product suspected of containing GMOs will be removed, unless the manufacturer can verify the product?s non-GMO status.
The Eugene, Ore.-based store?s no-nonsense approach to non-GMOs stems from a phrase that Sundance?s grocery manager and GMO expert James Mattravers says is the store?s source of inspiration and guidance: ?Individuals nourishing community nourishing individuals.?
GMOs? They don?t nourish people or community. So they?re out.
Sundance Natural Foods is located at the southern end of the Willamette Valley, home to what Mattravers describes as ?some of the best certified organic farms and farmers in the country.??Sundance does all it can to support the region?s local farms and farmers. And in turn, consumers reward the store with their loyalty.
For its hard-and-fast stance against GMOs, and its commitment to local farms and consumer education, Sundance earned a spot on OCA?s list of Top Right to Know ?Diligent Dozen."

Read the spotlight on Sundance Natural Foods
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CAMPAIGN UPDATE
Just the Beeginning 
They showed up in bee costumes. Carrying Valentine?s Day cards and cookies. Singing give bees a chance. To add a little theater to the mix, some of them staged bee die-ins.
Activists in Boston, Chicago, Eugene, Ore., Minneapolis, Washington D.C. and San Francisco converged on their local Home Depot and Lowe?s stores this week with this message: Show bees some love. Stop selling garden plants coated in bee-killing pesticides.
The demonstrations were part of a national Bee Week of Action
which included deliveries of valentines to managers of Home Depot and Lowe?s stores, coast to coast.
The actions, organized by Friends of the Earth, the Organic Consumers Association and 10 other groups, included collecting more than a half million signatures on petitions to Home Depot and Lowe?s, and sending letters to the CEOs of both companies.
Home Depot responded this week, to say the company is working on a policy to address neonics. We?re hopeful Lowe?s will reach out soon.
This week was just the beginning of what will be a sustained campaign to educate consumers and press retailers to replace bee-killing plants with organic, pesticide-free alternatives. Stay tuned. In the meantime, here are some highlights from actions in Chicago and Minneapolis.
Chicago video
Minneapolis press coverage
Washington D.C. videos hereand here
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Read the press release
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NEW STUDY
Worse Than We Thought
Another study surfaced this week sounding the alarm once again about the world?s reckless use of pesticides and herbicides.
According to a team of French scientists, most testing focuses on the pesticide?s active ingredient. But pesticides contain multiple ingredients and additives. And these ?inert? substances may make pesticides more dangerous current testing methods reveal.
The study, published in the journal BioMed Research International, also found that Monsanto?s Roundup herbicide, whose key active ingredient is glyphosate, is by far the most toxic of herbicides and insecticides tested.
It?s also one of the most widely used in the world, liberally sprayed on lawns, gardens, grain fed to animals and yes, your food.
Learn more here
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LITTLE BYTES
Essential Reading for the Week  
Seeds of Evil: Monsanto and Genetic Engineering
Cut Flowers: A Major Source of Toxic Pesticides
6 Nasty Drugs Your Meat Is On
Government Labels Those Who Grow Their Own Food 'Extremists'
War on Integrative Medicine, Part One: Eliminate the Integrative Doctors
Chick-Fil-a to Use Chicken without Antibiotics
   
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 16 12:15:06 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:15:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
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It turns out that part 1 of the Larry King Now show talking about GMOs is available on Hulu at


http://www.hulu.com/watch/596778 
There is no sign of part 2 yet.? Did that originally air on the 13th?

One thing that is clear from watching part1 is that the pro-GMO people have their script down pat while the anti-GMO panelists for the most part don't have a set script.? The guy from Chipotle seemed to have a reasonable anti-GMO script, but the other two anti-GMO panelists were all over the place and couldn't get a coherent sentence in.

John Thielking




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Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:48 AM
Subject: Fw: GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
 




----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
 


Sent to feedback at rttv.ru today:

The full 2-12-14 Larry 
King Now show is currently only available on youtube.com for 
international viewers. Viewers in the USA can't watch the full episode. 
The 2-14-14 Politicking episode is already posted on rt.com. So why is 
there such a long delay in posting the 2-12-14 Larry King Now episode?? 
Could it be that Larry King is getting some food industry flack for his 
airing of the GMO controversy on the 2-12-14 show? Please don't be a 
chicken %^$#. Please post the 2-12-14 Larry King Now episode 
immediately. Thank you.

Sincerely,
John Thielking


________________________________
 From: Organic Consumers Association <ronniecummins at organicconsumers.org>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:51 AM
Subject: GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
 


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?It is ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray.? ? Rachel Carson, Silent Spring
We know neonicotinoids, a class of pesticides, have been implicated in the mass die-off of honeybees.

But did you know who makes neonics? Syngenta, Bayer CropSciences and Dow Agrosciences.

And did you know who uses them, and for what purpose? Companies like Monsanto, Bayer, Dow Agrosciences . . . in the herbicides and pesticides and seeds they sell to farmers who grow genetically engineered crops. Crops that eventually end up in our food, or in the feed used to fatten up animals in factory farms?animals we slaughter for food.

We need bees in order to grow food, or at least some of it. Yet the food?GMO food?we are growing is killing the bees.
Read the essay
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ACTION ALERT
GMO Labeling Hot Potato? 
The Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) and its band of profiteers (28 industry groups masquerading as the Coalition for Affordable Safe Food),  have drafted their Bill to Kill GMO Labeling Laws.
But the bill won?t get off the ground unless the GMA can convince a couple of Congress members to sponsor it. It?s time to let every member of Congress know that consumers won?t sit by while Congress panders to the food, biotech and drug cartels, instead of standing up for our right to know.
So far, we know this about the GMA?s proposed law. It asks the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) to ?reaffirm? its ?role as the nation?s foremost authority on the use and labeling of foods containing genetically modified ingredients (GMOs).? Which, translated, means the GMA wants the FDA to revisit its 2001 ?voluntary guidance? on GMO labeling and come up with an unenforceable poor substitute for a federal mandatory labeling law.
What?s more, the GMA?s proposed bill would preempt existing and soon-to-be passed state GMO labeling laws (which, sensibly, call for mandatory, not voluntary compliance). And, it would make it officially OK to slap the word ?natural? on products containing GMOs. Which are, well, unnatural.
With your help, we?ve been petitioning the FDA to ignore the GMA?s appeal for a weak, watered-down voluntary GMO labeling law.
But now we wonder, which Congress member, in his or her right mind, would go against the will of more than  90 percentof voters to side with industry on what has become the most critical food (and environmental) safety issue of our time? Let?s be sure every member of Congress knows that consumers are dead set against the GMA?s proposed federal GMO labeling ?solution.? And that we?ll be watching to see which lawmakers support consumers. And which ones don?t.

TAKE ACTION: Tell Congress: Don?t sponsor an industry-crafted federal GMO labeling bill that would preempt states? rights to enact mandatory GMO labeling laws!
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ACTION ALERT
Bees Don?t Like Agent Orange Crops, Either
There?s a long list of reasons the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) shouldn?t approve Dow?s new 2,4-D-resistant corn and soy seeds. But as long as we?re talking about bees this week, here?s another.
Besides being linked to cancer and birth defects in humans,  2,4-D, one of the most widely used herbicides in the U.S., is also toxic to honeybees. While the herbicide may not result in the immediate die-off of bees, scientists report that over time, it severely impairs their ability to reproduce.
If the USDA approves Dow?s new 2,4-D-resistant crops, scientists predict anywhere from a 25-fold to 50-fold increase in the use of 2,4-D herbicides.
That?s bad news for you, your health, your kids. And it?s bad news for bees.
The question is this. Whether you?re concerned about your health, or the health of the honeybee population, should a pesticide/herbicide manufacturer, one that produced the Agent Orange herbicide used widely in Vietnam (and which the U.S. government admitsis responsible for a host of illnesses in people exposed to it) be in the business of making seeds that produce food for your table?

DEADLINE February 24: TAKE ACTION: Tell the USDA: Don't Approve New 'Agent Orange' Crops!
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SUPPORT THE OCA & OCF
Not for the Faint of Heart
It?s Valentine?s Day. You knew there had to be a heart in there somewhere.
But it?s also true. The work we do, with your help, is full of challenges. It?s not for everyone. It?s surely not for the faint of heart.
Even as we continue to fight for something so basic as the right to know if our food has been contaminated by GMOs (genetically modified organisms), even as we endure narrow losses in that ongoing battle, encounter politicians too weak to stand up to Monsanto and Big Food, are forced to fend off the Grocery Manufacturers Association?s endless ploys to defeat labeling laws by stripping states of the right to enact their own laws . . . we keep going.
Because you keep us going.
The USDA is on the verge of approving more, and evermore dangerous, GMO crops, including Agent Orange Corn and Soy, and GMO apples. The FDA is biding its time until it approves Frankenfish.
And that?s not the half of it. We still have a long way to go before the general public makes the connection between GMO crops and food and all their related ills. Including factory farms. Loss of biodiversity. Climate change.
There are days when the hills feel too steep, the heart too faint. But we always get that second wind.
Thanks for all your support, past present and future. Happy Valentine?s Day to you, our revolutionaries-in-arms!

Donate to the Organic Consumers Association (tax-deductible, helps support our work on behalf of organic standards, fair trade and public education)
Donate to the Organic Consumers Fund(non-tax-deductible, but necessary for our legislative efforts in Oregon, Vermont and other states)
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GMO LEGISLATION UPDATE
Don?t GMO Me, Bro! 
Two states, Vermont and Maryland, made progress this week toward passing mandatory GMO labeling laws.
In Vermont, H.112, which was passed by the House last year, survived the Senate?s agriculture committee by a vote of 4 to 1. The vote took place following a lively public hearing in which voters shouted ?Don?t GMO Me, Bro!? and demanded the lawmakers pass the bill, without a trigger clause that would delay implementation.
Attorney General Bill Sorrell?is planting seeds of doubt about the bill, claiming industry will follow through with threats to sue the state, which could result in a long and costly legal battle. But the bill?s supporters say H.112 will stand up in court. And if industry really thought they could win a suit, they wouldn?t be working so hard to pass a law that would preempt state laws like Vermont?s.
Next stop for H.112? The Senate Judiciary Committee, where activists hope H.112 will sail through. Without a trigger clause.
Meanwhile, in Maryland, 19 lawmakers introduced H.B. 1191 last week (February 7). The bill, which would take effect in July 2015, is similar to other state bills in that it would require foods containing GMOs to bear a label that reads: "genetically engineered"; "produced with genetic engineering"; or "partially produced with genetic engineering."
Vermont GMO labeling bill H.112
Maryland GMO labeling bill H.B. 1191
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ORGANIC RETAIL AND CONSUMER ALLIANCE
No GMOs. No Nonsense. No Kidding. 
When it comes to GMOs (genetically modified organisms),?Sundance Natural Foods?couldn?t be more clear about its policy. No new product known to contain GMOs will ever make it onto the store?s shelves. And any product suspected of containing GMOs will be removed, unless the manufacturer can verify the product?s non-GMO status.
The Eugene, Ore.-based store?s no-nonsense approach to non-GMOs stems from a phrase that Sundance?s grocery manager and GMO expert James Mattravers says is the store?s source of inspiration and guidance: ?Individuals nourishing community nourishing individuals.?
GMOs? They don?t nourish people or community. So they?re out.
Sundance Natural Foods is located at the southern end of the Willamette Valley, home to what Mattravers describes as ?some of the best certified organic farms and farmers in the country.??Sundance does all it can to support the region?s local farms and farmers. And in turn, consumers reward the store with their loyalty.
For its hard-and-fast stance against GMOs, and its commitment to local farms and consumer education, Sundance earned a spot on OCA?s list of Top Right to Know ?Diligent Dozen."

Read the spotlight on Sundance Natural Foods
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CAMPAIGN UPDATE
Just the Beeginning 
They showed up in bee costumes. Carrying Valentine?s Day cards and cookies. Singing give bees a chance. To add a little theater to the mix, some of them staged bee die-ins.
Activists in Boston, Chicago, Eugene, Ore., Minneapolis, Washington D.C. and San Francisco converged on their local Home Depot and Lowe?s stores this week with this message: Show bees some love. Stop selling garden plants coated in bee-killing pesticides.
The demonstrations were part of a national Bee Week of Action
which included deliveries of valentines to managers of Home Depot and Lowe?s stores, coast to coast.
The actions, organized by Friends of the Earth, the Organic Consumers Association and 10 other groups, included collecting more than a half million signatures on petitions to Home Depot and Lowe?s, and sending letters to the CEOs of both companies.
Home Depot responded this week, to say the company is working on a policy to address neonics. We?re hopeful Lowe?s will reach out soon.
This week was just the beginning of what will be a sustained campaign to educate consumers and press retailers to replace bee-killing plants with organic, pesticide-free alternatives. Stay tuned. In the meantime, here are some highlights from actions in Chicago and Minneapolis.
Chicago video
Minneapolis press coverage
Washington D.C. videos hereand here
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Read the press release
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NEW STUDY
Worse Than We Thought
Another study surfaced this week sounding the alarm once again about the world?s reckless use of pesticides and herbicides.
According to a team of French scientists, most testing focuses on the pesticide?s active ingredient. But pesticides contain multiple ingredients and additives. And these ?inert? substances may make pesticides more dangerous current testing methods reveal.
The study, published in the journal BioMed Research International, also found that Monsanto?s Roundup herbicide, whose key active ingredient is glyphosate, is by far the most toxic of herbicides and insecticides tested.
It?s also one of the most widely used in the world, liberally sprayed on lawns, gardens, grain fed to animals and yes, your food.
Learn more here
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LITTLE BYTES
Essential Reading for the Week  
Seeds of Evil: Monsanto and Genetic Engineering
Cut Flowers: A Major Source of Toxic Pesticides
6 Nasty Drugs Your Meat Is On
Government Labels Those Who Grow Their Own Food 'Extremists'
War on Integrative Medicine, Part One: Eliminate the Integrative Doctors
Chick-Fil-a to Use Chicken without Antibiotics
   
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Feb 16 21:22:33 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:22:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
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I think someone should talk to both of them and ask them if they want to share the time or if they would like separate dates.
Caroline
 

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 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
  
 
The more the merrier I say. Let them both speak at our next meeting.John Thielking
 

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 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?
  
??? ? Could I hear from others?? In general, I support Move to Amend, though I've been negatively impressed with their apparent reticence to working in coalition with others.? Richard Hobbs' MTA group is pushing an initiative, which I find acceptable and appropriate but not exciting or inspired.? Both his signature collection efforts and the work of the California Clean Money campaign are time sensitive right now.? I think there is enough synergy between MTA and CA Clean that I think it would be reasonable to have them both come together.? And asking Richard to share a podium with Nancy Neff might encourage him to be more open to coalitions.?    ????? If we ask only Nancy Neff, should we give her a half hour or an hour, and should that time begin at 7 or 7:30 PM??    ????? Thanks,  ????? Spencer    On 2/15/2014 7:36 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:  
I believe we should accept Nancy Neff. I do not believe we should have Richard at the same meeting, perhaps at the following meeting. 
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>Sandy 
>-----Original Message----- From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at prodsyse.com To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 6:03 pm Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: SB 27 v. 52?  
>Hello, All:?    ????? We have an offer of a speaker for Feb. 27;? see below.?    ????? Shall we accept?? What about also asking others like Richard Hobbs??    ????? Thanks,  ????? Spencer  
>  -------- Original Message -------- 
>Subject: Re: SB 27 v. 52? 
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 17:06:10 -0800 
>From: Nancy Neff mailto:nrneff at sonic.net 
>Reply-To: nancy at neffs.net 
>To: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org 
>CC: California Clean Money Campaign mailto:newsletter at caclean.org    Hi Spencer,  SB 27 and SB 52 work together.? California Clean Money Campaign is actively pushing both of them, and Common Cause is a key endorser and partner with us on SB 52.  In a nutshell, SB 27 contains follow-the-money language to make non-profits have to disclose the original donors if more than $50,000 is spent on political ads.? That information goes onto the Secretary of State website.? Then, SB 52 causes the top 3 donors to be clearly presented on the ads themselves.  I don't know of a side-by-side comparison, but you could look at the Legislative Analyst Office summaries:? http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billSearchClient.xhtml  I could attend your meeting on Feb. 27 and either give a brief presentation of the two bills or just be available to answer questions.? A few years ago I gave your group a presentation on the earlier version of the CA DISCLOSE Act, AB
 1648.  Nancy  --? Nancy Neff Regional Volunteer Coordinator California Clean Money Campaign (650) 858-2436 http://www.caclean.org/ Support SB 52, the?California DISCLOSE Act, to show who?really?pays for political ads!?  Become a regular or monthly member today to help end the dominance of Big Money in politics:
>http://www.yesfairelections.org/join   
>On 2/15/2014 12:33 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:  
>????? What are the differences between SB 27 and 52?      <snip>    
>-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
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751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 16 23:45:31 2014
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 23:45:31 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] speakers at our meetings
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In my opinion we should have only one speaker at a time.
Leave plenty of time for Q&A.

I would suggest Nancy Neff of the Clean Money campaign
to be first because there is currently some legislative activity
in that area.

What will we do with the information she gives us?
What action will we take based uponr the information
in her presentation?

The same questions  apply to any other speakers we invite.



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Mon Feb 17 16:58:45 2014
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:58:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Please let everyone in your county know to keep
	gathering signatures dur...
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 From: gregjan4 at yahoo.com
To: kghasri at gmail.com, helofavalkyrie at gmail.com,  nate136_66 at yahoo.com, 
dsilver at greens.org, david at movetoamend.org,  jhepke at gmail.com, 
lakecountygreenparty at gmail.com, marnie.glickman at gmail.com,  marnie at greenchange.com, 
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gdjohnson2 at juno.com, rrodarte at cox.net, mrl at greens.org,  gbsb51 at gmail.com, 
hugh at sdgreenparty.org, timc2 at sbcglobal.net, erikasf at aol.com,  jmc at sfgreens.org, 
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scofield at omsoft.com,  rich at zeeprime.com, info at greenpartymonterey.org, 
jared.laiti at gmail.com,  danasg at greens.org, gerrygras at earthlink.net, WB4D23 at aol.com,  
j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net, spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com,  
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gloria at extragalactic.net, perrysandy at aol.com,  barbara.bardwell at yahoo.com
Sent: 2/15/2014 2:40:17 P.M. Pacific Standard  Time
Subj: Please let everyone in your county know to keep gathering  signatures 
during the "Supplemental signatures" period!



All,


We've just learned that there is a  "Supplemental Signature Period" in 
which we can "make-up" any  signatures that were turned in, which are found to 
be invalid.  (And we  don't have to wait until we're notified of exactly how 
many bad signatures  there are in order to start gathering the "supplemental 
signatures").   However, we do need to start "new"  petitions, with a start 
date of either February 21, or a date after Feb.  21.  (We can use the same 
forms as before, but we must have a new  "starting date" for this phase of 
the process).


Depending  on how you got (most) of the signatures in your county, you 
should figure that  somewhere between 5% and 25% of your signatures will 
probably be found to be  invalid.  We will get the exact count of how many invalid 
signatures we  can "make up" within 10 days after the signatures have been 
turned in.   And we're not yet sure if we can turn in more supplemental 
signatures than  were found to be invalid, for a particular county.  
(Supplemental  signatures (for a particular candidate) submitted to a particular county  
election office can only make-up for the invalid signatures (for that  
candidate), that were submitted to that county).  We will try to get a  complete 
answer to the question of how many  supplemental signatures we are allowed 
to submit on Tuesday  (since the election offices are closed on Monday).  In 
the meantime  though, it would be good to try and get a "high validity 
rate" on the  Supplemental Signatures that we do get, starting on February 21.   
However, the most important thing for now is to (ASAP) let  everyone in 
your county know to be ready to start gathering "Supplemental Signatures" on 
Feb. 21  (with those petitions having a Feb. 21 (or later) start date), so we 
can  "make-up" the invalid signatures, for our candidates!  (The final date 
to  turn in Supplemental signatures is March 7, but we should try to turn 
them in  before that -- probably on March 4 or 5).  Of course, more info will  
follow, probably on either Tuesday or Wednesday!


Thank  you!,


Greg











 
On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:09 PM,  Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com> wrote:


 
 
 



 
 
 
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:41 PM,  Kamran Ghasri <kghasri at gmail.com> 
wrote:


 
 
 
 
 
Dear county contacts;


It is the  time that you should all check-in with everyone in your county, 
who is  collecting signatures to ask them to give you their out-of-county  
petitions ASAP, so you can mail all collected  forms to our county contacts, 
no later than next Wednesday, February  12. Please make sure that the back 
of the forms are all  signed and dated.
Mailing addresses are below. Also, this is  the link to county election 
offices
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_d.htm     
for you to mail signatures from counties without a contact  person.

For out-of-county signatures collected after Feb.  12, please mail them 
directly to county election offices.

Thank you all.


Kamran Ghasri
310-248-0414

 

1 - _Alameda  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/alameda) 
Green  Party,  2022 Blake St.
 Berkeley, CA 94704
2 - Alpine County
3 - _Amador County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/amador) 
4 - _Butte  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/buttegreens) 
5 - _Calaveras  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/calaveras) 
6 - _Colusa County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/colusa) 
7 - _Contra Costa  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/contra_costa) 
Tim Laidman: 1722  Lexington Ave.
El Cerrito, CA 94530
Phone _510-260-9393_ () 
 
8 - _Del  Norte County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/del-norte) 
9 - _El Dorado County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/eldorado) 
10 - _Fresno County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/fresno) 
Richard Gomez c/o FCNV: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave.
Fresno, CA 93728-1941

11 - _Glenn  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/glenn) 
12 -_Humboldt County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/humboldt) 
Dana Silvernale (Silvernale is spelled S i l v e r n a  l e): PO Box 1373 
Blue Lake, CA 95525-1373 Tel: _707-267-5342_ () 
 
Dana will not be available after Feb.  18th. If sending signatures after 
that date, mail completed forms directly to  ROV office:
Humboldt County Office of Elections
Registrar of Voters
3033 H Street, Room 20
Eureka, CA 95501
 


13 -_Imperial County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/imperial)   
14 -_Inyo County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/inyo) 
15 -_Kern County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/kern) 
16 - _Kings County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/kings) 
17 - _Lake County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/lake) 
Joanne Bateni: 2152 Martin St.
 Lakeport, CA 95453 Lake  County


18 - _Lassen County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/lassen) 
29 - _Los Angeles  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/los-angeles) 
Kamran Ghasri: 100 S.  Doheny Dr., A;t. 714
Los Angeles, CA  9048

20 - _Madera County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/madera) 
Richard Gomez: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave.
Fresno, CA 93728-1941

21 - _Marin County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/marin) 
David Curtis: 95 El  Capitan Dr
San Rafael, CA  94903
22 - _Mariposa County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/mariposa) 
23 - _Mendocino  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/mendocino) 
24 - _Merced County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/merced) 
25 - _Modoc County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/modoc) 
26 - _Mono County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/mono) 
27 - _Monterey County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/monterey) 
Eric Petersen: P. O.  Box 2416
Salinas  93902

Green Party Monterey  County
c/o Peace Resource Center
1364 Fremont  Boulevard
Seaside, CA 93955
28 - _Napa County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/napa) 
Alex Shantz: 890 Professional Drive, Napa CA  94558
 
29 - _Nevada  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/nevada) 
30- _Orange County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/orange) 
Jane Rands:  






716 W Wilshire Ave
Fullerton, CA  92832

_31 -  Placer County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/placer) 
32 - _Plumas County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/plumas) 
33 - _Riverside  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/riverside) 
34 - _Sacramento  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/sacramento) 
Jared Laiti: 81 Cognac  Circle
Sacramento,  95835-2034
35 - _San Benito  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san_benito) 
36 - _San Bernardino  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san-bernardino) 
37 - _San Diego  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san_diego) 
Hugh  Moore: 166 N 1st  Street Unit 4
 El Cajon, CA  92021-6906
 

38 - _San Francisco  _ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san-francisco) 
Barry Hermanson: 2467 28th  Avenue
San Francisco, CA   94116
_barry at hermansons.com_ (mailto:barry at hermansons.com) 
_415-664-7754_ () 


39 - _San  Joaquin_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san_joaquin) 
40 - _San Luis Obispo  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san_luis_obispo) 
Peggy Koteen
253  Via San Blas
SLO, CA 93401-6975
 

41- _San Mateo  County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/san_mateo) 
Sanda Everette: 3329 Los Prados St #4
San Mateo 94403

42 - _Santa Barbara  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_barbara) 
Peggy Koteen
253  Via San Blas
SLO, CA 93401-6975

43 - _Santa Clara  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_clara) 
Warner Bloomberg : 867 N.  5th St. 
San Jose, CA 95112
44 - _Santa Cruz  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_cruz) 
45 - _Shasta County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/shasta) 
Don Yost: 16509 Power  Line Rd. 
Redding, CA 96001  
46 ? _Sierra County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/sierra) 
47 - _Siskiyou_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/siskiyou) 
48 - _Solano County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/solano) 
Kim White: 57 Ventura St.
Vallejo, CA 94590
 
Cell: _707-334-1282_ () 

49 - _Sonoma County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/sonoma) 
Woody Hastings: 7760 Dos Palos Lane
Sebastopol, CA 95472
 
 
 
50 - _Stanislaus  County_ 
(http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/stanislaus) 
51 - _Sutter County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/sutter) 
52 - _Tehama County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/tehama) 
53 - _Trinity County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/trinity) 
54 - _Tulare County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/tulare) 
Merrily Davies: 1078 N.  Roberta way
Porterville, Ca 93257
55 - _Tuolumne County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/tuolumne) 
56 - _Ventura County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/ventura) 
58 - _Yolo County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/yolo) 

59 - _Yuba County_ (http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/yuba) 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

























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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Feb 17 18:34:45 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:34:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Please let everyone in your county know to
	keep gathering signatures dur...
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How terrific! I just had a great idea on a place to get signatures--Laundromats. People are sitting, they aren't hurrying off somewhere. You can watch them sign so you know they have their printed name, signature, and address in the right place. It's hard to do that at a farmers' market or a mall or a party where you pass the clipboard around. Now I'll have time to check it out.
Caroline
 

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From: gregjan4 at yahoo.comTo: kghasri at gmail.com, helofavalkyrie at gmail.com,  nate136_66 at yahoo.com, dsilver at greens.org, david at movetoamend.org,  jhepke at gmail.com, lakecountygreenparty at gmail.com, marnie.glickman at gmail.com,  marnie at greenchange.com, davidscurtis at earthlink.net, alexshantz at gmail.com,  napacountygreenparty at gmail.com, makuahineaina at yahoo.com, jrands at earthlink.net,  dadcab at sbcglobal.net, gdjohnson2 at juno.com, rrodarte at cox.net, mrl at greens.org,  gbsb51 at gmail.com, hugh at sdgreenparty.org, timc2 at sbcglobal.net, erikasf at aol.com,  jmc at sfgreens.org, Pkoteen at aol.com, marquequark at yahoo.com,  donald at snowcrest.net, whastings at earthlink.net, ukapole at att.net,  amtelwest at earthlink.net, victronix01 at yahoo.com, erucq.garcia at gmail.com,  timlaidman at yahoo.com, jpmcfadden925 at yahoo.com, scofield at omsoft.com,  rich at zeeprime.com, info at greenpartymonterey.org, jared.laiti at gmail.com,  danasg at greens.org, gerrygras at earthlink.net, WB4D23 at aol.com,  j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net,
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>All, 
>
> 
>We've just learned that there is a  "Supplemental Signature Period" in which we can "make-up" any  signatures that were turned in, which are found to be invalid.? (And we  don't have to wait until we're notified of exactly how many bad signatures  there are in order to start gathering the "supplemental signatures").?  However, we do need to start "new"  petitions, with a start date of either February 21, or a date after Feb.  21.? (We can use the same forms as before, but we must have a new  "starting date" for this phase of the process). 
>
> 
>Depending  on how you got (most) of the signatures in your county, you should figure that  somewhere between 5% and 25% of your signatures will probably be found to be  invalid.? We will get the exact count of how many invalid signatures we  can "make up" within 10 days after the signatures have been turned in.?  And we're not yet sure if we can turn in more supplemental signatures than  were found to be invalid, for a particular county.? (Supplemental  signatures (for a particular candidate) submitted to a particular county  election office can only make-up for the invalid signatures (for that  candidate), that were submitted to that county).? We will try to get a  complete answer to the question of how many  supplemental signatures we are allowed to submiton Tuesday  (since the election offices are closed on Monday).? In the meantime  though, it would be good to try and get a "high validity rate" on the  Supplemental Signatures that we do get,
 starting on February 21.?  However, the most important thing for now is to (ASAP) let  everyone in your county know to be ready to start gathering "Supplemental Signatures" on Feb. 21 (with those petitions having a Feb. 21 (or later) start date), so we can  "make-up" the invalid signatures, for our candidates!? (The final date to  turn in Supplemental signatures is March 7, but we should try to turn them in  before that -- probably on March 4 or 5).? Of course, more info will  follow, probably on either Tuesday or Wednesday! 
>
> 
>Thank  you!, 
>
> 
>Greg
> 
> 
>On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:09 PM,  Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>
> 
>On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:41 PM,  Kamran Ghasri <kghasri at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>Dear county contacts;
>? It is the  time that you should all check-in with everyone in your county, who is  collecting signatures to ask them to give you their out-of-county  petitions ASAP, so you canmail all collected  formsto our county contacts, no later than next Wednesday, February  12. Please make sure that the back of the forms are all  signed and dated.
>Mailing addresses are below. Also, this is 
  the link to county election offices
>http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_d.htm??? for you to mail signatures from counties without a contact  person.For out-of-county signatures collected after Feb.  12, please mail them directly to county election offices.
>Thank you all.
>
>Kamran Ghasri
>310-248-0414
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>1 - Alameda  County 
>Green  Party,? 2022 Blake St. 
>?Berkeley, CA 94704 
>2 - Alpine County 
>3 - Amador County 
>4 - Butte  County 
>5 - Calaveras  County 
>6 - Colusa County 
>7 - Contra Costa  County 
>Tim Laidman: 1722  Lexington Ave.
>El Cerrito, CA 94530 
>Phone 510-260-9393 
>? 
>8 - Del  Norte County 
>9 - El Dorado County 
>10 - Fresno County 
>Richard Gomez c/o FCNV: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave. 
>Fresno, CA 93728-1941 
>? 
>11 - Glenn  County 
>12 -Humboldt County 
>Dana Silvernale (Silvernale is spelled S i l v e r n a  l e): PO Box 1373 Blue Lake, CA 95525-1373 Tel: 707-267-5342 
>? 
>Dana will not be available after Feb.  18th. If sending signatures after that date, mail completed forms directly to  ROV office: 
>Humboldt County Office of Elections 
>Registrar of Voters 
>3033 H Street, Room 20 
>Eureka, CA 95501 
>? 
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>13 -Imperial County  
>14 -Inyo County 
>15 -Kern County 
>16 - Kings County 
>17 - Lake County 
>Joanne Bateni: 2152 Martin St. 
>?Lakeport, CA 95453?Lake  County  
>? 
>18 - Lassen County 
>29 - Los Angeles  County 
>Kamran Ghasri: 100 S.  Doheny Dr., A;t. 714 
>Los Angeles, CA  9048 
>? 
>20 - Madera County 
>Richard Gomez: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave. 
>Fresno, CA 93728-1941 
>? 
>21 - Marin County 
>David Curtis: 95 El  Capitan Dr
>San Rafael, CA? 94903 
>22 - Mariposa County 
>23 - Mendocino  County 
>24 - Merced County 
>25 - Modoc County 
>26 - Mono County 
>27 - Monterey County 
>Eric Petersen: P. O.  Box 2416 
>Salinas  93902 
>? 
>Green Party Monterey  County
>c/o Peace Resource Center
>1364 Fremont 
  Boulevard
>Seaside, CA 93955 
>28 - Napa County 
>Alex Shantz: 890 Professional Drive, Napa CA  94558 
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>29 - Nevada  County 
>30- Orange County 
>Jane Rands: ?   ?   
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>716 W Wilshire Ave 
>Fullerton, CA  92832  
>? 
>31 - Placer County 
>32 - Plumas County 
>33 - Riverside  County 
>34 - Sacramento  County 
>Jared Laiti: 81 Cognac  Circle 
>?Sacramento,  95835-2034 
>35 - San Benito  County 
>36 - San Bernardino  County 
>37 - San Diego  County 
>Hugh  Moore:166 N 1st Street Unit 4 
>?El Cajon, CA  92021-6906 
>? 
>? 
>38 - San Francisco  
>Barry Hermanson: 2467 28th  Avenue 
>San Francisco, CA?  94116 
>barry at hermansons.com 
>415-664-7754  
>? 
>39 - San  Joaquin 
>40 - San Luis Obispo  County 
>Peggy Koteen 
>253  Via San Blas 
>SLO, CA 93401-6975 
>? 
>? 
>41- San Mateo  County 
>Sanda Everette: 3329 Los Prados St #4 
>San Mateo 94403 
>? 
>42 - Santa Barbara  County 
>Peggy Koteen 
>253  Via San Blas 
>SLO, CA 93401-6975 
>? 
>43 - Santa Clara  County 
>Warner Bloomberg?: 867 N.  5th St.  
>San Jose, CA 95112 
>44 - Santa Cruz  County 
>45 - Shasta County 
>Don Yost: 16509 Power  Line Rd.  
>Redding, CA 96001  
>46 ? Sierra County 
>47 - Siskiyou 
>48 - Solano County 
>Kim White: 57 Ventura St. 
>Vallejo, CA 94590 
>
>Cell: 707-334-1282 
>? 
>49 - Sonoma County 
>Woody Hastings: 7760 Dos Palos Lane 
>Sebastopol, CA 95472 
>
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>? 
>50 - Stanislaus  County 
>51 - Sutter County 
>52 - Tehama County 
>53 - Trinity County 
>54 - Tulare County 
>Merrily Davies: 1078 N.  Roberta way
>Porterville, Ca 93257 
>55 - Tuolumne County 
>56 - Ventura County 
>58 - Yolo County 
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>59 - Yuba County 
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Feb 17 18:48:40 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:48:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: West Coast here we come!
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Should we try to get the HCM producers to visit the Peninsula around April 19 ???It woul be a great way to educate about SP since many folks are coming out in support. I realize that this is Easter Sat. but the other CA. cities are also having their events that WEI could see if I can reserve a room at the MP library. They will be coming from S.Barbara so would need to factor that in.It would be great to get HCA, DFA, the Van Jones group whose name totally escapes me, and others to put this on. It's very easy to organize. Let me know if you think it's feasible.Lynn

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Unfortunately, Stockton didn't get included.? Maybe we can support some of the viewings near us. ?And it's really too late for us to get in full-gear mode to have a great event. ?Carol
  
 
 




  
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From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Feb 17 20:14:42 2014
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:14:42 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] What did Obama do after his drought speech.
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Went to Rancho Mirage and played golf on an irrigated course.


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 18 11:08:02 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: After Brutal Arrest,
	Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on
	Watch List
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Subject: After Brutal Arrest, Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on Watch List
 


Partnership for Civil Justice 
 

 
?????
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Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern sues 
State Dept. for Putting Him on Watch List:
Lawsuit Challenges Brutal Arrest at Clinton speech? 
For anti-war beliefs, State Dept. instructed agents to stop and question McGovern on sight
 

Download and Read State Dept. Notice to "Be On the Look-Out" (BOLO) for Ray McGovern
From the Complaint:
"The 
Department of State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert ('BOLO Alert') for 
the then- 71-year-old McGOVERN which described his 'considerable amount 
of political activism, primarily anti-war,' displayed his picture and 
directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, 'USE 
CAUTION, stop' and question him and contact the Department of State 
Diplomatic Security Command Center." 
The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund has 
filed a federal civil rights lawsuit on behalf of U.S. military veteran 
and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern against John Kerry, in his capacity 
as the Secretary of State, and against officers at George Washington 
University. 
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia three years to the date of Mr. McGovern's 
brutal and false arrest at GWU during a speech of then Secretary of 
State Hillary Clinton. After the arrest, the PCJF uncovered that then 
71-year-old McGovern was put on a "Be On the Look-Out" list, and agents 
were instructed to stop and question him on sight. The reasons cited 
included his "political activism, primarily anti-war" ? a clearly 
unconstitutional order.
Circumstances of arrest
The circumstances of McGovern's 2011 arrest 
were marked by stinging irony. McGovern was brutalized and arrested 
after peacefully and silently standing with his back to Hillary Clinton as she gave a policy speech condemning authoritarian governments who repress dissenters and internet freedom. 
As described in the Civil Complaint: "As 
Secretary Clinton was reading from her prepared remarks regarding 
Egypt?s dictatorship saying, 'Then the government pulled the plug,' the 
then-71-year-old McGovern was forcibly and falsely arrested by GWU 
police officers, grabbed by the head, assaulted, and as Secretary 
Clinton continued undisturbed stating, 'the government ... did not want 
the world to watch,' Mr. McGovern was removed from public view with 
excessive and brutal force, taken to jail, and left bleeding with 
bruises and contusions."
Political targeting
The complaint continues: "The Department of 
State then opened an investigation into Plaintiff McGovern, including 
specifically his lawful, protected political beliefs, activities, 
statements and associations which it kept open for nearly seven months, 
despite all charges having been dropped against Mr. McGovern and despite having determined that Mr. McGovern was engaged in no criminal 
activity."
As the complaint states: "The Department of 
State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert ('BOLO Alert') for the then- 
71-year-old McGOVERN which described his 'considerable amount of 
political activism, primarily anti-war,' displayed his picture and 
directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, 'USE 
CAUTION, stop' and question him and contact the Department of State 
Diplomatic Security Command Center."
PCJF Executive Director Mara Verheyden-Hilliard stated: "Mr. McGovern's brutal arrest and his subsequent political targeting by the State Department stands in sharp contrast to the policy 
announcement that Secretary Clinton was delivering, which insisted that 
governments respect dissent and dissenters and their freedom of speech."
Carl Messineo, Legal Director of the PCJF, explained, "Mr. McGovern is a veteran who committed no crime. Yet the State 
Department carried out a purely political investigation of him and put 
him on the BOLO list in clear violation of his Fourth and First 
Amendment protections."
Mr. McGovern, 74, is a veteran Army 
officer who also served as an analyst with the Central Intelligence 
Agency for 27 years. Mr. McGovern wrote for the President?s daily brief 
under Presidents Nixon and Ford. From 1981 to 1985, he personally 
briefed this publication in the morning one-on-one to Vice President 
George H. W. Bush, the Secretaries of State and Defense, and other 
senior officials of the administration of Ronald Reagan.
Upon retirement in early 1990, Mr. 
McGovern was awarded the Intelligence Commendation Award for his 
particularly commendable service and received a laudatory farewell 
letter from then-President George H. W. Bush.
Thirteen years later, Mr. McGovern 
co-founded Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to expose that 
intelligence was being falsified by the U.S. government to justify war 
on Iraq.
Click here to read the complaint and see photos.
We need your help! PCJF attorneys represent Ray McGovern pro bono. Please make an urgently needed tax-deductible contribution to help cover the legal costs of this critical battle in defense of freedom, dissent and constitutional rights.

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From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:14:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for
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Bad news:? I just now got off the phone with my lawyer and he says that showing a movie at a private home to promote a club is not covered under the noncommercial license that comes with most movies for home viewing. So we really should get explicit permissions to show all of the movies that we show on behalf of the Green Party, wherever it is that we show them.

John Thielking




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To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


As I recall I was only required to pay the $150 for showing Inconveinent Truth because I was showing it at my store. If I were doing one of the other house parties where I was showing it at a private residence, I was not required to get a public viewing license. Presumably the people running the house parties were also NOT collecting donations.? So if you want to be 100% legit on movie night and show mainstream movies without permission you could try showing them at a private residence. I'd have to get back to you after I talk to my lawyer about asking for donations in that situation.

John Thielking



________________________________
 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, such as Genetic Roulette.? As for organizing anything, don't look to me to start something and then leave town in June. 


John Thielking



________________________________
 From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


As to numbers 2.2 and?3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.

As to number 2.1, Attaboy!

Caroline


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


Hi, Sandy:? 


????? 1.? Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council.?
      Someone needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it
      official.? 


????? 2.? I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly
      meeting.? For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest
      presentation or a movie followed by a discussion that would run
      until 9 PM followed by a half hour general business meeting with
      agenda organized by the County Council.? 


??? ??????? 2.1.? However, a change like this would require
      someone taking the lead to organize this.? The obvious lead
      organizers should, I think, be people most concerned about our
      major foci.? These are currently environment and universal health
      care.? Those are important, but I'm more concerned about
      government secrecy and democracy.? Regarding the latter, I've
      recently attended regular meetings of the Santa Clara County
      Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the League of Women
      Voters.? I've already been able to restart stalled discussions on
      getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.? 


??? ??????? 2.2.? Is anyone interested in helping organize a
      showing of "Inequality for All"?? Just over an hour ago, I finally
      received word that we can now show "Inequality for All" on
      reasonable terms -- after having had tentative showing canceled
      twice because of misinformation about licensing.? Dream Menders
      will meet next Wednesday and discuss showing this at the Peace
      Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday like March 16, 23, or
      30.? Any preferences?? 


??? ? 3.? Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline
      Yacoub and others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night
      at the Peace Center for 2 years.? The results from that were OK
      but not adequate to justify the level of effort required to keep
      it going.? Before we change how we manage our monthly meeting(s),
      we need to ask Caroline and others what we should do to try to
      obtain greater success.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:

Hi Spencer,
>?
>I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
>?
>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>?
>With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.
>?
>Sandy
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'
          Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
>
>Hello, All: 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings. 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS). ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position. I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities. Best Wishes,
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 18 11:32:48 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:32:48 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: After Brutal Arrest,
 Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on
 Watch List
In-Reply-To: <1392750482.14254.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <449300784.1392748340828.JavaMail.www@app229>,
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Message-ID: <BAY177-W20EF424A7EC021EA0BD6649E980@phx.gbl>

Here's a one-minute video on Ray's arrest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8R8c7j4UgU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw

Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:08:02 -0800
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To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; palestineis at dslextreme.com
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: After Brutal Arrest,	Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on	Watch List


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Partnership for Civil Justice

 
 






















     
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Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern sues 
State Dept. for Putting Him on Watch List:
Lawsuit Challenges Brutal Arrest at Clinton speech 

For anti-war beliefs, State Dept. instructed agents to stop and question McGovern on sight



 







Download and Read State Dept. Notice to "Be On the Look-Out" (BOLO) for Ray McGovern
>From the Complaint:
"The 
Department of State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert ('BOLO Alert') for 
the then- 71-year-old McGOVERN which described his 'considerable amount 
of political activism, primarily anti-war,' displayed his picture and 
directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, 'USE 
CAUTION, stop' and question him and contact the Department of State 
Diplomatic Security Command Center."




The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund has 
filed a federal civil rights lawsuit on behalf of U.S. military veteran 
and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern against John Kerry, in his capacity 
as the Secretary of State, and against officers at George Washington 
University. 
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court
 for the District of Columbia three years to the date of Mr. McGovern's 
brutal and false arrest at GWU during a speech of then Secretary of 
State Hillary Clinton. After the arrest, the PCJF uncovered that then 
71-year-old McGovern was put on a "Be On the Look-Out" list, and agents 
were instructed to stop and question him on sight. The reasons cited 
included his "political activism, primarily anti-war" ? a clearly 
unconstitutional order.
Circumstances of arrest
The circumstances of McGovern's 2011 arrest 
were marked by stinging irony. McGovern was brutalized and arrested 
after peacefully and silently standing with his back to Hillary Clinton as she gave a policy speech condemning authoritarian governments who repress dissenters and internet freedom. 
As described in the Civil Complaint: "As 
Secretary Clinton was reading from her prepared remarks regarding 
Egypt?s dictatorship saying, 'Then the government pulled the plug,' the 
then-71-year-old McGovern was forcibly and falsely arrested by GWU 
police officers, grabbed by the head, assaulted, and as Secretary 
Clinton continued undisturbed stating, 'the government ... did not want 
the world to watch,' Mr. McGovern was removed from public view with 
excessive and brutal force, taken to jail, and left bleeding with 
bruises and contusions."
Political targeting
The complaint continues: "The Department of 
State then opened an investigation into Plaintiff McGovern, including 
specifically his lawful, protected political beliefs, activities, 
statements and associations which it kept open for nearly seven months, 
despite all charges having been dropped against Mr. McGovern and despite
 having determined that Mr. McGovern was engaged in no criminal 
activity."
As the complaint states: "The Department of 
State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert ('BOLO Alert') for the then- 
71-year-old McGOVERN which described his 'considerable amount of 
political activism, primarily anti-war,' displayed his picture and 
directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, 'USE 
CAUTION, stop' and question him and contact the Department of State 
Diplomatic Security Command Center."
PCJF Executive Director Mara Verheyden-Hilliard stated:
 "Mr. McGovern's brutal arrest and his subsequent political targeting by
 the State Department stands in sharp contrast to the policy 
announcement that Secretary Clinton was delivering, which insisted that 
governments respect dissent and dissenters and their freedom of speech."
Carl Messineo, Legal Director of the PCJF, explained,
 "Mr. McGovern is a veteran who committed no crime. Yet the State 
Department carried out a purely political investigation of him and put 
him on the BOLO list in clear violation of his Fourth and First 
Amendment protections."
Mr. McGovern, 74, is a veteran Army 
officer who also served as an analyst with the Central Intelligence 
Agency for 27 years. Mr. McGovern wrote for the President?s daily brief 
under Presidents Nixon and Ford. From 1981 to 1985, he personally 
briefed this publication in the morning one-on-one to Vice President 
George H. W. Bush, the Secretaries of State and Defense, and other 
senior officials of the administration of Ronald Reagan.
Upon retirement in early 1990, Mr. 
McGovern was awarded the Intelligence Commendation Award for his 
particularly commendable service and received a laudatory farewell 
letter from then-President George H. W. Bush.
Thirteen years later, Mr. McGovern 
co-founded Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to expose that 
intelligence was being falsified by the U.S. government to justify war 
on Iraq.
Click here to read the complaint and see photos. 
We need your help! PCJF attorneys represent Ray McGovern pro bono. Please make an urgently needed tax-deductible contribution to help cover the legal costs of this critical battle in defense of freedom, dissent and constitutional rights.

     
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 18 11:46:03 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:46:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: After Brutal Arrest,
	Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on
	Watch List
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	<1392750482.14254.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY177-W20EF424A7EC021EA0BD6649E980@phx.gbl>
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Here is the clickable version of that link, for those of you who don't copy/paste into a toolbar or highlight and right click:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8R8c7j4UgU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw 

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________________________________
 From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>; Donna Wallach <palestineis at dslextreme.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: After Brutal Arrest, Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on Watch List
 


Here's a one-minute video on Ray's arrest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8R8c7j4UgU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw



________________________________
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:08:02 -0800
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; palestineis at dslextreme.com
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: After Brutal Arrest,	Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on	Watch List




----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Partnership for Civil Justice Fund <no-reply at justiceonline.org>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:31 AM
Subject: After Brutal Arrest, Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. for Putting Him on Watch List
 

Partnership for Civil Justice
 

 
?????
Forward this email 
Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern sues 
State Dept. for Putting Him on Watch List:
Lawsuit Challenges Brutal Arrest at Clinton speech? 
For anti-war beliefs, State Dept. instructed agents to stop and question McGovern on sight
 

Download and Read State Dept. Notice to "Be On the Look-Out" (BOLO) for Ray McGovern
From the Complaint:
"The 
Department of State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert ('BOLO Alert') for 
the then- 71-year-old McGOVERN which described his 'considerable amount 
of political activism, primarily anti-war,' displayed his picture and 
directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, 'USE 
CAUTION, stop' and question him and contact the Department of State 
Diplomatic Security Command Center." 
The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund has 
filed a federal civil rights lawsuit on behalf of U.S. military veteran 
and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern against John Kerry, in his capacity 
as the Secretary of State, and against officers at George Washington 
University. 
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia three years to the date of Mr. McGovern's 
brutal and false arrest at GWU during a speech of then Secretary of 
State Hillary Clinton. After the arrest, the PCJF uncovered that then 
71-year-old McGovern was put on a "Be On the Look-Out" list, and agents 
were instructed to stop and question him on sight. The reasons cited 
included his "political activism, primarily anti-war" ? a clearly 
unconstitutional order.
Circumstances of arrest
The circumstances of McGovern's 2011 arrest 
were marked by stinging irony. McGovern was brutalized and arrested 
after peacefully and silently standing with his back to Hillary Clinton as she gave a policy speech condemning authoritarian governments who repress dissenters and internet freedom. 
As described in the Civil Complaint: "As 
Secretary Clinton was reading from her prepared remarks regarding 
Egypt?s dictatorship saying, 'Then the government pulled the plug,' the 
then-71-year-old McGovern was forcibly and falsely arrested by GWU 
police officers, grabbed by the head, assaulted, and as Secretary 
Clinton continued undisturbed stating, 'the government ... did not want 
the world to watch,' Mr. McGovern was removed from public view with 
excessive and brutal force, taken to jail, and left bleeding with 
bruises and contusions."
Political targeting
The complaint continues: "The Department of 
State then opened an investigation into Plaintiff McGovern, including 
specifically his lawful, protected political beliefs, activities, 
statements and associations which it kept open for nearly seven months, 
despite all charges having been dropped against Mr. McGovern and despite having determined that Mr. McGovern was engaged in no criminal 
activity."
As the complaint states: "The Department of 
State issued a Be On The Lookout Alert ('BOLO Alert') for the then- 
71-year-old McGOVERN which described his 'considerable amount of 
political activism, primarily anti-war,' displayed his picture and 
directed law enforcement that if Mr. McGOVERN was encountered, 'USE 
CAUTION, stop' and question him and contact the Department of State 
Diplomatic Security Command Center."
PCJF Executive Director Mara Verheyden-Hilliard stated: "Mr. McGovern's brutal arrest and his subsequent political targeting by the State Department stands in sharp contrast to the policy 
announcement that Secretary Clinton was delivering, which insisted that 
governments respect dissent and dissenters and their freedom of speech."
Carl Messineo, Legal Director of the PCJF, explained, "Mr. McGovern is a veteran who committed no crime. Yet the State 
Department carried out a purely political investigation of him and put 
him on the BOLO list in clear violation of his Fourth and First 
Amendment protections."
Mr. McGovern, 74, is a veteran Army 
officer who also served as an analyst with the Central Intelligence 
Agency for 27 years. Mr. McGovern wrote for the President?s daily brief 
under Presidents Nixon and Ford. From 1981 to 1985, he personally 
briefed this publication in the morning one-on-one to Vice President 
George H. W. Bush, the Secretaries of State and Defense, and other 
senior officials of the administration of Ronald Reagan.
Upon retirement in early 1990, Mr. 
McGovern was awarded the Intelligence Commendation Award for his 
particularly commendable service and received a laudatory farewell 
letter from then-President George H. W. Bush.
Thirteen years later, Mr. McGovern 
co-founded Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to expose that 
intelligence was being falsified by the U.S. government to justify war 
on Iraq.
Click here to read the complaint and see photos.
We need your help! PCJF attorneys represent Ray McGovern pro bono. Please make an urgently needed tax-deductible contribution to help cover the legal costs of this critical battle in defense of freedom, dissent and constitutional rights.

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 18 12:33:51 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:33:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FOCUS: Julian Assange | Appoint a Special
	Prosecutor to Investigate the NSA
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This is silly from a practical point of view.? You may as well ask the Wolf to regurgitate some chickens.

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 18 14:07:05 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:07:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
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Part 2 of Larry King Now GMOs is now available here: http://www.ora.tv/larrykingnow/gmos-part-2-0_2lxel99gjetc. On that page it shows that the date is 2-17-14. The rt.com web site has a Larry King Now show from 2-17-14 that IS NOT part 2. There are no updates on the 
rt.com Larry King Now page between 2-11-14 and 2-16-14.  Shameful!  The 
youtube page for Larry King Now still only allows international viewers to watch either 
episode. Shameful! (Editor's note: the reason why certain Larry King Now episodes may not be available to USA viewers on rt.com or youtube.com may have more to do with the fact that the videos on hulu and ora.tv -- a hulu mirror site --- have imbedded commercials while the versions on youtube and rt.com do not have commercials rather than any political fallout from a particular episode.)


As for the content of part 2, it now seems obvious that the anti-gmo panelists could not get a coherent sentence in because the pro-gmo scientist was always talking over them. The pro-gmo scientist also said at least one flat out lie: That there are no consequences when gmo crops cross pollenate? with conventional crops. What planet does that guy live on? Hasn't he ever heard of Monsanto suing farmers who have contaminated fields? Duh. I guess he also doesn't know about the Papaya crops in Hawaii that had to have their trees destroyed because gmo Papaya contaminated Organic Papayas. 


At least by the end of the show the other "pro-gmo" panelist switched to being anti-gmo!? That was after watching the movie clip presented by the pro-gmo scientist showing how the gmo plant was not being eaten by a bug while the non-gmo plant was being eaten by the bug. The panelist said "I want to eat what the bug is willing to eat!" Yay!



John Thielking



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It turns out that part 1 of the Larry King Now show talking about GMOs is available on Hulu at


http://www.hulu.com/watch/596778 
There is no sign of part 2 yet.? Did that originally air on the 13th?

One thing that is clear from watching part1 is that the pro-GMO people have their script down pat while the anti-GMO panelists for the most part don't have a set script.? The guy from Chipotle seemed to have a reasonable anti-GMO script, but the other two anti-GMO panelists were all over the place and couldn't get a coherent sentence in.

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Sent to feedback at rttv.ru today:

The full 2-12-14 Larry 
King Now show is currently only available on youtube.com for 
international viewers. Viewers in the USA can't watch the full episode. 
The 2-14-14 Politicking episode is already posted on rt.com. So why is 
there such a long delay in posting the 2-12-14 Larry King Now episode?? 
Could it be that Larry King is getting some food industry flack for his 
airing of the GMO controversy on the 2-12-14 show? Please don't be a 
chicken %^$#. Please post the 2-12-14 Larry King Now episode 
immediately. Thank you.

Sincerely,
John Thielking


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ESSAY OF THE WEEK
For Whom the Bee Tolls 
?It is ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray.? ? Rachel Carson, Silent Spring
We know neonicotinoids, a class of pesticides, have been implicated in the mass die-off of honeybees.

But did you know who makes neonics? Syngenta, Bayer CropSciences and Dow Agrosciences.

And did you know who uses them, and for what purpose? Companies like Monsanto, Bayer, Dow Agrosciences . . . in the herbicides and pesticides and seeds they sell to farmers who grow genetically engineered crops. Crops that eventually end up in our food, or in the feed used to fatten up animals in factory farms?animals we slaughter for food.

We need bees in order to grow food, or at least some of it. Yet the food?GMO food?we are growing is killing the bees.
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ACTION ALERT
GMO Labeling Hot Potato? 
The Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA) and its band of profiteers (28 industry groups masquerading as the Coalition for Affordable Safe Food),  have drafted their Bill to Kill GMO Labeling Laws.
But the bill won?t get off the ground unless the GMA can convince a couple of Congress members to sponsor it. It?s time to let every member of Congress know that consumers won?t sit by while Congress panders to the food, biotech and drug cartels, instead of standing up for our right to know.
So far, we know this about the GMA?s proposed law. It asks the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) to ?reaffirm? its ?role as the nation?s foremost authority on the use and labeling of foods containing genetically modified ingredients (GMOs).? Which, translated, means the GMA wants the FDA to revisit its 2001 ?voluntary guidance? on GMO labeling and come up with an unenforceable poor substitute for a federal mandatory labeling law.
What?s more, the GMA?s proposed bill would preempt existing and soon-to-be passed state GMO labeling laws (which, sensibly, call for mandatory, not voluntary compliance). And, it would make it officially OK to slap the word ?natural? on products containing GMOs. Which are, well, unnatural.
With your help, we?ve been petitioning the FDA to ignore the GMA?s appeal for a weak, watered-down voluntary GMO labeling law.
But now we wonder, which Congress member, in his or her right mind, would go against the will of more than  90 percentof voters to side with industry on what has become the most critical food (and environmental) safety issue of our time? Let?s be sure every member of Congress knows that consumers are dead set against the GMA?s proposed federal GMO labeling ?solution.? And that we?ll be watching to see which lawmakers support consumers. And which ones don?t.

TAKE ACTION: Tell Congress: Don?t sponsor an industry-crafted federal GMO labeling bill that would preempt states? rights to enact mandatory GMO labeling laws!
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ACTION ALERT
Bees Don?t Like Agent Orange Crops, Either
There?s a long list of reasons the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) shouldn?t approve Dow?s new 2,4-D-resistant corn and soy seeds. But as long as we?re talking about bees this week, here?s another.
Besides being linked to cancer and birth defects in humans,  2,4-D, one of the most widely used herbicides in the U.S., is also toxic to honeybees. While the herbicide may not result in the immediate die-off of bees, scientists report that over time, it severely impairs their ability to reproduce.
If the USDA approves Dow?s new 2,4-D-resistant crops, scientists predict anywhere from a 25-fold to 50-fold increase in the use of 2,4-D herbicides.
That?s bad news for you, your health, your kids. And it?s bad news for bees.
The question is this. Whether you?re concerned about your health, or the health of the honeybee population, should a pesticide/herbicide manufacturer, one that produced the Agent Orange herbicide used widely in Vietnam (and which the U.S. government admitsis responsible for a host of illnesses in people exposed to it) be in the business of making seeds that produce food for your table?

DEADLINE February 24: TAKE ACTION: Tell the USDA: Don't Approve New 'Agent Orange' Crops!
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Not for the Faint of Heart
It?s Valentine?s Day. You knew there had to be a heart in there somewhere.
But it?s also true. The work we do, with your help, is full of challenges. It?s not for everyone. It?s surely not for the faint of heart.
Even as we continue to fight for something so basic as the right to know if our food has been contaminated by GMOs (genetically modified organisms), even as we endure narrow losses in that ongoing battle, encounter politicians too weak to stand up to Monsanto and Big Food, are forced to fend off the Grocery Manufacturers Association?s endless ploys to defeat labeling laws by stripping states of the right to enact their own laws . . . we keep going.
Because you keep us going.
The USDA is on the verge of approving more, and evermore dangerous, GMO crops, including Agent Orange Corn and Soy, and GMO apples. The FDA is biding its time until it approves Frankenfish.
And that?s not the half of it. We still have a long way to go before the general public makes the connection between GMO crops and food and all their related ills. Including factory farms. Loss of biodiversity. Climate change.
There are days when the hills feel too steep, the heart too faint. But we always get that second wind.
Thanks for all your support, past present and future. Happy Valentine?s Day to you, our revolutionaries-in-arms!

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GMO LEGISLATION UPDATE
Don?t GMO Me, Bro! 
Two states, Vermont and Maryland, made progress this week toward passing mandatory GMO labeling laws.
In Vermont, H.112, which was passed by the House last year, survived the Senate?s agriculture committee by a vote of 4 to 1. The vote took place following a lively public hearing in which voters shouted ?Don?t GMO Me, Bro!? and demanded the lawmakers pass the bill, without a trigger clause that would delay implementation.
Attorney General Bill Sorrell?is planting seeds of doubt about the bill, claiming industry will follow through with threats to sue the state, which could result in a long and costly legal battle. But the bill?s supporters say H.112 will stand up in court. And if industry really thought they could win a suit, they wouldn?t be working so hard to pass a law that would preempt state laws like Vermont?s.
Next stop for H.112? The Senate Judiciary Committee, where activists hope H.112 will sail through. Without a trigger clause.
Meanwhile, in Maryland, 19 lawmakers introduced H.B. 1191 last week (February 7). The bill, which would take effect in July 2015, is similar to other state bills in that it would require foods containing GMOs to bear a label that reads: "genetically engineered"; "produced with genetic engineering"; or "partially produced with genetic engineering."
Vermont GMO labeling bill H.112
Maryland GMO labeling bill H.B. 1191
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ORGANIC RETAIL AND CONSUMER ALLIANCE
No GMOs. No Nonsense. No Kidding. 
When it comes to GMOs (genetically modified organisms),?Sundance Natural Foods?couldn?t be more clear about its policy. No new product known to contain GMOs will ever make it onto the store?s shelves. And any product suspected of containing GMOs will be removed, unless the manufacturer can verify the product?s non-GMO status.
The Eugene, Ore.-based store?s no-nonsense approach to non-GMOs stems from a phrase that Sundance?s grocery manager and GMO expert James Mattravers says is the store?s source of inspiration and guidance: ?Individuals nourishing community nourishing individuals.?
GMOs? They don?t nourish people or community. So they?re out.
Sundance Natural Foods is located at the southern end of the Willamette Valley, home to what Mattravers describes as ?some of the best certified organic farms and farmers in the country.??Sundance does all it can to support the region?s local farms and farmers. And in turn, consumers reward the store with their loyalty.
For its hard-and-fast stance against GMOs, and its commitment to local farms and consumer education, Sundance earned a spot on OCA?s list of Top Right to Know ?Diligent Dozen."

Read the spotlight on Sundance Natural Foods
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CAMPAIGN UPDATE
Just the Beeginning 
They showed up in bee costumes. Carrying Valentine?s Day cards and cookies. Singing give bees a chance. To add a little theater to the mix, some of them staged bee die-ins.
Activists in Boston, Chicago, Eugene, Ore., Minneapolis, Washington D.C. and San Francisco converged on their local Home Depot and Lowe?s stores this week with this message: Show bees some love. Stop selling garden plants coated in bee-killing pesticides.
The demonstrations were part of a national Bee Week of Action
which included deliveries of valentines to managers of Home Depot and Lowe?s stores, coast to coast.
The actions, organized by Friends of the Earth, the Organic Consumers Association and 10 other groups, included collecting more than a half million signatures on petitions to Home Depot and Lowe?s, and sending letters to the CEOs of both companies.
Home Depot responded this week, to say the company is working on a policy to address neonics. We?re hopeful Lowe?s will reach out soon.
This week was just the beginning of what will be a sustained campaign to educate consumers and press retailers to replace bee-killing plants with organic, pesticide-free alternatives. Stay tuned. In the meantime, here are some highlights from actions in Chicago and Minneapolis.
Chicago video
Minneapolis press coverage
Washington D.C. videos hereand here
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Read the press release
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NEW STUDY
Worse Than We Thought
Another study surfaced this week sounding the alarm once again about the world?s reckless use of pesticides and herbicides.
According to a team of French scientists, most testing focuses on the pesticide?s active ingredient. But pesticides contain multiple ingredients and additives. And these ?inert? substances may make pesticides more dangerous current testing methods reveal.
The study, published in the journal BioMed Research International, also found that Monsanto?s Roundup herbicide, whose key active ingredient is glyphosate, is by far the most toxic of herbicides and insecticides tested.
It?s also one of the most widely used in the world, liberally sprayed on lawns, gardens, grain fed to animals and yes, your food.
Learn more here
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LITTLE BYTES
Essential Reading for the Week  
Seeds of Evil: Monsanto and Genetic Engineering
Cut Flowers: A Major Source of Toxic Pesticides
6 Nasty Drugs Your Meat Is On
Government Labels Those Who Grow Their Own Food 'Extremists'
War on Integrative Medicine, Part One: Eliminate the Integrative Doctors
Chick-Fil-a to Use Chicken without Antibiotics
   
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Feb 18 14:54:47 2014
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:54:47 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior State ealy April
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Here is an email from Harry Yoon,  lightninghyoon at gmail.com

Hi Mr. Doyle!

Spring State is coming up soon and Norcal JSA would like to invite the
Green Party once again to talk to students during the Political Fair.
Spring State is April 4-6 and will be held at the Santa Clara Marriot.
If you have any questions or concerns please tell me right away.

Sincerely,
Harry Yoon
Political Fair Coordinator

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Harry



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Hi Everyone,

The deadline to get all signatures collected on or before Feb 20 to the Santa Clara County Registrar is before 5 pm Thurs Feb 20. I will be turning in several on Thurs afternoon about 3 pm. If anyone wants me to turn in theirs, please let me know or get them to me ASAP, or of course you can turn them in yourself.

When I go there I will inquire about our total signatures and whether we will be permitted to collect supplemental signatures (and how many and for how long).

Sandy






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How terrific! I just had a great idea on a place to get signatures--Laundromats. People are sitting, they aren't hurrying off somewhere. You can watch them sign so you know they have their printed name, signature, and address in the right place. It's hard to do that at a farmers' market or a mall or a party where you pass the clipboard around. Now I'll have time to check it out.
Caroline

  
 
 
 
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All,
  


  
We've just learned that there is a   "Supplemental Signature Period" in which we can "make-up" any   signatures that were turned in, which are found to be invalid.  (And we   don't have to wait until we're notified of exactly how many bad signatures   there are in order to start gathering the "supplemental signatures").    However, we do need to start "new"   petitions, with a start date of either February 21, or a date after Feb.   21.  (We can use the same forms as before, but we must have a new   "starting date" for this phase of the process).
  


  
Depending   on how you got (most) of the signatures in your county, you should figure that   somewhere between 5% and 25% of your signatures will probably be found to be   invalid.  We will get the exact count of how many invalid signatures we   can "make up" within 10 days after the signatures have been turned in.    And we're not yet sure if we can turn in more supplemental signatures than   were found to be invalid, for a particular county.  (Supplemental   signatures (for a particular candidate) submitted to a particular county   election office can only make-up for the invalid signatures (for that   candidate), that were submitted to that county).  We will try to get a   complete answer to the question of how many   supplemental signatures we are allowed to submit on Tuesday   (since the election offices are closed on Monday).  In the meantime   though, it would be good to try and get a "high validity rate" on the   Supplemental Signatures that we do get, starting on February 21.    However, the most important thing for now is to (ASAP) let   everyone in your county know to be ready to start gathering "Supplemental Signatures" on Feb. 21   (with those petitions having a Feb. 21 (or later) start date), so we can   "make-up" the invalid signatures, for our candidates!  (The final date to   turn in Supplemental signatures is March 7, but we should try to turn them in   before that -- probably on March 4 or 5).  Of course, more info will   follow, probably on either Tuesday or Wednesday!
  


  
Thank   you!,
  


  
Greg

  
  
  
  
On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:09 PM,   Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com> wrote:

  
  
  
  
  


  
  
  
  
  
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:41 PM,   Kamran Ghasri <kghasri at gmail.com> wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Dear county contacts;

  It is the   time that you should all check-in with everyone in your county, who is   collecting signatures to ask them to give you their out-of-county   petitions ASAP, so you can mail all collected   forms to our county contacts, no later than next Wednesday, February   12. Please make sure that the back of the forms are all   signed and dated.
Mailing addresses are below. Also, this is   the link to county election offices
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_d.htm      for you to mail signatures from counties without a contact   person.
For out-of-county signatures collected after Feb.   12, please mail them directly to county election offices.

Thank you all.


Kamran Ghasri
310-248-0414
  
  
  
  
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Green   Party,  2022 Blake St.
  
 Berkeley, CA 94704
  
2 - Alpine County
  
3 - Amador County
  
4 - Butte   County
  
5 - Calaveras   County
  
6 - Colusa County
  
7 - Contra Costa   County
  
Tim Laidman: 1722   Lexington Ave.
El Cerrito, CA 94530
  
Phone 510-260-9393
  
 
  
8 - Del   Norte County
  
9 - El Dorado County
  
10 - Fresno County
  
Richard Gomez c/o FCNV: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave.
  
Fresno, CA 93728-1941
  
 
  
11 - Glenn   County
  
12 -Humboldt County
  
Dana Silvernale (Silvernale is spelled S i l v e r n a   l e): PO Box 1373 Blue Lake, CA 95525-1373 Tel: 707-267-5342
  
 
  
Dana will not be available after Feb.   18th. If sending signatures after that date, mail completed forms directly to   ROV office:
  
Humboldt County Office of Elections
  
Registrar of Voters
  
3033 H Street, Room 20
  
Eureka, CA 95501
  
 
  
 

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15 -Kern County
  
16 - Kings County
  
17 - Lake County
  
Joanne Bateni: 2152 Martin St.
  
 Lakeport, CA 95453 Lake   County
  
  
 
  
18 - Lassen County
  
29 - Los Angeles   County
  
Kamran Ghasri: 100 S.   Doheny Dr., A;t. 714
  
Los Angeles, CA   9048
  
 
  
20 - Madera County
  
Richard Gomez: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave.
  
Fresno, CA 93728-1941
  
 
  
21 - Marin County
  
David Curtis: 95 El   Capitan Dr
San Rafael, CA  94903
  
22 - Mariposa County
  
23 - Mendocino   County
  
24 - Merced County
  
25 - Modoc County
  
26 - Mono County
  
27 - Monterey County
  
Eric Petersen: P. O.   Box 2416
  
Salinas   93902
  
 
  
Green Party Monterey   County
c/o Peace Resource Center
1364 Fremont   Boulevard
Seaside, CA 93955
  
28 - Napa County
  
Alex Shantz: 890 Professional Drive, Napa CA   94558
  
 
  
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33 - Riverside   County
  
34 - Sacramento   County
  
Jared Laiti: 81 Cognac   Circle
  
 Sacramento,   95835-2034
  
35 - San Benito   County
  
36 - San Bernardino   County
  
37 - San Diego   County
  
Hugh   Moore: 166 N 1st   Street Unit 4
  
 El Cajon, CA   92021-6906
  
 
  
 
  
38 - San Francisco   
  
Barry Hermanson: 2467 28th   Avenue
  
San Francisco, CA    94116
  
barry at hermansons.com
  
415-664-7754
  
  
 
  
39 - San   Joaquin
  
40 - San Luis Obispo   County
  
Peggy Koteen
  
253   Via San Blas
  
SLO, CA 93401-6975
  
 
  
 
  
41- San Mateo   County
  
Sanda Everette: 3329 Los Prados St #4
  
San Mateo 94403
  
 
  
42 - Santa Barbara   County
  
Peggy Koteen
  
253   Via San Blas
  
SLO, CA 93401-6975
  
 
  
43 - Santa Clara   County
  
Warner Bloomberg : 867 N.   5th St. 
  
San Jose, CA 95112
  
44 - Santa Cruz   County
  
45 - Shasta County
  
Don Yost: 16509 Power   Line Rd. 
  
Redding, CA 96001   
  
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47 - Siskiyou
  
48 - Solano County
  
Kim White: 57 Ventura St.
  
Vallejo, CA 94590
  
 
  
Cell: 707-334-1282
  
 
  
49 - Sonoma County
  
Woody Hastings: 7760 Dos Palos Lane
  
Sebastopol, CA 95472
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
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52 - Tehama County
  
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Merrily Davies: 1078 N.   Roberta way
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It is my understanding that you must personally visit the registrar's office and turn in all of the signatures that you collected yourself. There are some additional forms to fill out? that must be signed by the person who collected the signatures. I have to go do this Wednesday for the Peace and Freedom candidate signatures that I turned in to a Peace and Freedom Party organizer instead of the registrar.

John Thielking




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To: carolineyacoub at att.net; WB4D23 at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:15 PM
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Hi Everyone,
?
The deadline to get all signatures collected on or before Feb 20 to the Santa Clara County Registrar is before 5 pm Thurs Feb 20. I will be turning in several on Thurs afternoon about 3 pm. If anyone wants me to turn in theirs, please let me know or?get them to me ASAP, or of course you can turn them in yourself.
?
When I go there I will inquire about our total signatures and whether we will be permitted to collect supplemental signatures (and how many and for how long).
?
Sandy
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From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
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Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 6:35 pm
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How terrific! I just had a great idea on a place to get signatures--Laundromats. People are sitting, they aren't hurrying off somewhere. You can watch them sign so you know they have their printed name, signature, and address in the right place. It's hard to do that at a farmers' market or a mall or a party where you pass the clipboard around. Now I'll have time to check it out.
Caroline

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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:58 PM
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From: gregjan4 at yahoo.com To: kghasri at gmail.com, helofavalkyrie at gmail.com, nate136_66 at yahoo.com, dsilver at greens.org, david at movetoamend.org, jhepke at gmail.com, lakecountygreenparty at gmail.com, marnie.glickman at gmail.com, marnie at greenchange.com, davidscurtis at earthlink.net, alexshantz at gmail.com, napacountygreenparty at gmail.com, makuahineaina at yahoo.com, jrands at earthlink.net, dadcab at sbcglobal.net, gdjohnson2 at juno.com, rrodarte at cox.net, mrl at greens.org, gbsb51 at gmail.com, hugh at sdgreenparty.org, timc2 at sbcglobal.net, erikasf at aol.com, jmc at sfgreens.org, Pkoteen at aol.com, marquequark at yahoo.com, donald at snowcrest.net, whastings at earthlink.net, ukapole at att.net, amtelwest at earthlink.net, victronix01 at yahoo.com, erucq.garcia at gmail.com, timlaidman at yahoo.com, jpmcfadden925 at yahoo.com, scofield at omsoft.com, rich at zeeprime.com, info at greenpartymonterey.org, jared.laiti at gmail.com, danasg at greens.org, gerrygras at earthlink.net, WB4D23 at aol.com, j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net,
 spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com, sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com, sanda at greens.org, ecplot at gmail.com, gloria at extragalactic.net, perrysandy at aol.com, barbara.bardwell at yahoo.com Sent: 2/15/2014 2:40:17 P.M. Pacific Standard  Time Subj: Please let everyone in your county know to keep gathering  signatures during the "Supplemental signatures" period!
>?
>All,
>
>
>We've just learned that there is a  "Supplemental Signature Period" in which we can "make-up" any  signatures that were turned in, which are found to be invalid.? (And we  don't have to wait until we're notified of exactly how many bad signatures  there are in order to start gathering the "supplemental signatures").?  However, we do need to start "new"  petitions, with a start date of either February 21, or a date after Feb.  21.? (We can use the same forms as before, but we must have a new  "starting date" for this phase of the process).
>
>
>Depending  on how you got (most) of the signatures in your county, you should figure that  somewhere between 5% and 25% of your signatures will probably be found to be  invalid.? We will get the exact count of how many invalid signatures we  can "make up" within 10 days after the signatures have been turned in.?  And we're not yet sure if we can turn in more supplemental signatures than  were found to be invalid, for a particular county.? (Supplemental  signatures (for a particular candidate) submitted to a particular county  election office can only make-up for the invalid signatures (for that  candidate), that were submitted to that county).? We will try to get a  complete answer to the question of how many  supplemental signatures we are allowed to submiton Tuesday  (since the election offices are closed on Monday).? In the meantime  though, it would be good to try and get a "high validity rate" on the  Supplemental Signatures that we do get,
 starting on February 21.?  However, the most important thing for now is to (ASAP) let  everyone in your county know to be ready to start gathering "Supplemental Signatures" on Feb. 21 (with those petitions having a Feb. 21 (or later) start date), so we can  "make-up" the invalid signatures, for our candidates!? (The final date to  turn in Supplemental signatures is March 7, but we should try to turn them in  before that -- probably on March 4 or 5).? Of course, more info will  follow, probably on either Tuesday or Wednesday!
>
>
>Thank  you!,
>
>
>Greg
>
>On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:09 PM,  Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:41 PM,  Kamran Ghasri <kghasri at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Dear county contacts;
>
? It is the  time that you should all check-in with everyone in your county, who is  collecting signatures to ask them to give you their out-of-county  petitions ASAP, so you canmail all collected  formsto our county contacts, no later than next Wednesday, February  12. Please make sure that the back of the forms are all  signed and dated.
>Mailing addresses are below. Also, this is 
  the link to county election offices
>http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_d.htm???  for you to mail signatures from counties without a contact  person.
For out-of-county signatures collected after Feb.  12, please mail them directly to county election offices.
>Thank you all.
>
>Kamran Ghasri
>310-248-0414
> 
>1 - Alameda  County
>Green  Party,? 2022 Blake St.
>?Berkeley, CA 94704
>2 - Alpine County
>3 - Amador County
>4 - Butte  County
>5 - Calaveras  County
>6 - Colusa County
>7 - Contra Costa  County
>Tim Laidman: 1722  Lexington Ave.
>El Cerrito, CA 94530
>Phone 510-260-9393
>?
>8 - Del  Norte County
>9 - El Dorado County
>10 - Fresno County
>Richard Gomez c/o FCNV: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave.
>Fresno, CA 93728-1941
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>11 - Glenn  County
>12 -Humboldt County
>Dana Silvernale (Silvernale is spelled S i l v e r n a  l e): PO Box 1373 Blue Lake, CA 95525-1373 Tel: 707-267-5342
>?
>Dana will not be available after Feb.  18th. If sending signatures after that date, mail completed forms directly to  ROV office:
>Humboldt County Office of Elections
>Registrar of Voters
>3033 H Street, Room 20
>Eureka, CA 95501
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>13 -Imperial County  
>14 -Inyo County
>15 -Kern County
>16 - Kings County
>17 - Lake County
>Joanne Bateni: 2152 Martin St.
>?Lakeport, CA 95453?Lake  County
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>18 - Lassen County
>29 - Los Angeles  County
>Kamran Ghasri: 100 S.  Doheny Dr., A;t. 714
>Los Angeles, CA  9048
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>20 - Madera County
>Richard Gomez: 1584 N. Van Ness Ave.
>Fresno, CA 93728-1941
>?
>21 - Marin County
>David Curtis: 95 El  Capitan Dr
>San Rafael, CA? 94903
>22 - Mariposa County
>23 - Mendocino  County
>24 - Merced County
>25 - Modoc County
>26 - Mono County
>27 - Monterey County
>Eric Petersen: P. O.  Box 2416
>Salinas  93902
>?
>Green Party Monterey  County
>c/o Peace Resource Center
>1364 Fremont 
  Boulevard
>Seaside, CA 93955
>28 - Napa County
>Alex Shantz: 890 Professional Drive, Napa CA  94558
>?
>29 - Nevada  County
>30- Orange County
>Jane Rands: ?  ? 
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>716 W Wilshire Ave
>Fullerton, CA  92832 
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>31 - Placer County
>32 - Plumas County
>33 - Riverside  County
>34 - Sacramento  County
>Jared Laiti: 81 Cognac  Circle
>?Sacramento,  95835-2034
>35 - San Benito  County
>36 - San Bernardino  County
>37 - San Diego  County
>Hugh  Moore:166 N 1st Street Unit 4
>?El Cajon, CA  92021-6906
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>38 - San Francisco 
>Barry Hermanson: 2467 28th  Avenue
>San Francisco, CA?  94116
>barry at hermansons.com
>415-664-7754
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>39 - San  Joaquin
>40 - San Luis Obispo  County
>Peggy Koteen
>253  Via San Blas
>SLO, CA 93401-6975
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>41- San Mateo  County
>Sanda Everette: 3329 Los Prados St #4
>San Mateo 94403
>?
>42 - Santa Barbara  County
>Peggy Koteen
>253  Via San Blas
>SLO, CA 93401-6975
>?
>43 - Santa Clara  County
>Warner Bloomberg?: 867 N.  5th St. 
>San Jose, CA 95112
>44 - Santa Cruz  County
>45 - Shasta County
>Don Yost: 16509 Power  Line Rd. 
>Redding, CA 96001 
>46 ? Sierra County
>47 - Siskiyou
>48 - Solano County
>Kim White: 57 Ventura St.
>Vallejo, CA 94590
>?
>Cell: 707-334-1282
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>49 - Sonoma County
>Woody Hastings: 7760 Dos Palos Lane
>Sebastopol, CA 95472
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>50 - Stanislaus  County
>51 - Sutter County
>52 - Tehama County
>53 - Trinity County
>54 - Tulare County
>Merrily Davies: 1078 N.  Roberta way
>Porterville, Ca 93257
>55 - Tuolumne County
>56 - Ventura County
>58 - Yolo County
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 18 16:52:17 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:52:17 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior State ealy April
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I recommend this to everybody on the highest terms.   The kids are all dressed up in their best clothes and all modeling their best candidate-to-change-the-world presentation.  And of course they all believe in democracy.  They're open-minded, and they LOVE seeing how the button machine can transform a drab inkjet printout into a beautiful shiny button.  It's a real gas.

April 4th will be the anniversary of Martin Luthert King's landmark Riverside speech 4/4/67, and also of his murder 4/4/68.  I would love to participate at the table in terms of publicizing the Riverside speech with handouts.   Working toward publicizing Dr. King's speech on the anniversary in 2017 is probably one of the most productive things progressives can do, IMHO.

I'm inclined to doubt that it would be appropriate in the Junior State context to go deeper, into the evidence that on 4/4/68 someone other than James Earl Ray killed Dr. King.

CCed to Mrs. Brouillet 'cause she's demonstrated that she's real good with kids and I'm not sure she's still subscribed to this list.  





> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:54:47 -0800
> From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior State ealy April
> 
> Here is an email from Harry Yoon,  lightninghyoon at gmail.com
> 
> Hi Mr. Doyle!
> 
> Spring State is coming up soon and Norcal JSA would like to invite the
> Green Party once again to talk to students during the Political Fair.
> Spring State is April 4-6 and will be held at the Santa Clara Marriot.
> If you have any questions or concerns please tell me right away.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Harry Yoon
> Political Fair Coordinator
> 
> -- 
> Harry
> 
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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Feb 18 19:18:16 2014
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 19:18:16 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GMO Labeling Hot Potato?
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Interesting follow up on this.  My wife reads a Japanese monthly 
magazine called Bungei Shunju.  It is also the name of a major publihing 
company.  The magazine is something between New Yorker and Atlantic 
Monthly or Harpers in content.   This week, they ran an article critical 
of GMO practices in the US and questioning whether they should import 
soy beans with roundup ready gene.



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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Tue Feb 18 20:37:37 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (rainbeaufriend at riseup.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:37:37 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protest Leon Panetta, We, Th, &/or Fr
Message-ID: <71edca7dc28b58ac03f5b7b62cd3df31.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net>

There is an effort (described below) to get a peaceful nonconfrontational
protest of Leon Panetta @ the Flint Center, next to the De Anza Community
College Campus (though no longer owned by the college) going this
Wednesday the 19, Thursday the 20th and Friday the 21st. Leon Pannetta the
former Secretary of State who was in charge of expanding the U.S. murder
by drone program.  A student at De Anza named Brennan Robbins of Students
for Justice (SfJ) came up with the idea and has been organizing it. 
Another student Steven (don't know his last name) is going to be on site
at the Flint Center to coordinate it.  The Students for Justice campus
club only are prepared for a peaceful nonconfrontational, more educational
style of protest, so if you wish to join you're welcome as long as you
respect their wishes as the host for the protest.  See more details
below...

Green is GO!

Drew


Hi people,

Please put in any ideas you may have or what times you could be available
for the Panetta demonstration. (It won't be effective if only a few people
show up.) I'm also attaching the links again for convenience.


 Panetta Factsheet
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UZE3UmizSMEwTOENNMNixJ5fh4vFmyDCJlWWNLCu270/edit?usp=drive_web>

 Panetta planning spreadsheet
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AorbMRdqSv9odDlLNlF3UTBqM0FWbkZjS2s4eTVvNmc&usp=drive_web>

Also, I'm forwarding this to two people (Adrien Hythier and Iqra Shaikh)
who I talked to about this at Wellstone (I forgot to put them in the first
one.)

Come to SFJ tomorrow with ideas!

In solidarity,
Brennan Robins(SFJ)


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Brennan Robins <
californiapoppyesq at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Apologies for getting this out so late, it should have been done yesterday.
>
> In case any of you don't know(I suppose that would only apply to some of
> the Green Party folks), Leon Panetta, former CIA director and Defense
> Secretary, is coming to De Anza next week to speak as a part of the
> "Celebrity Forum Series" at Flint Center. This will be on Wednesday Feb.
> 19, Thursday Feb. 20, and Friday Feb. 21, from 8pm to 9:30pm.
>
> Because of his role in the US policy of unmanned drone strikes, SFJ may
> organize a small action surrounding the event in partnership with the Green
> Party and possibly the Student Rights & Services committee of the student
> senate. I don't know what you guys are going to do, but we had planned a
> non confrontational approach with a table and students talking to people
> waiting in line to get their tickets.There may be more, depending on the
> number of people we can get; Steven suggested having a few people lay on
> the ground to represent drone victims, and I've heard a few other
> suggestions.
>
> I have written out a fact sheet for this issue. It's quite moderate for
> the purpose of convincing moderate Democrats and centrists--convincing
> liberals should be easier. Most of it is answers to questions that people
> may ask.
>
> The goal of this would be to actually change attendees' minds on this
> issue, raise awareness of drones in the De Anza community, and raise
> visibility of the participating organizations(SFJ, Greens, SRS, senate,
> etc.) Some of the ticket holders are Democratic donors and they have some
> leverage over local Democratic officeholders(money talks); there are
> several local members of Congress that have not taken a position one way or
> the other about this.
>
> What we would ask you to do is to forward this to groups that you know
> that could help with this(especially SRS), contribute any ideas you may
> have, and most importantly, think about your schedule and see if you can be
> at De Anza one of these evenings; if we only get a few people it won't be
> very effective, and I don't have the time to be there all three evenings.
> We will need people to mainly walk up and down the line and talk to ticket
> holders. If anyone is already planning something different we can integrate
> the plans together.
>
> Please think about this and contribute what you can.
>
> Thanks,
> Brennan Robins(SFJ)
>
>
>  Panetta
Factsheet<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UZE3UmizSMEwTOENNMNixJ5fh4vFmyDCJlWWNLCu270/edit?usp=drive_web>
>
>  Panetta planning
spreadsheet<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AorbMRdqSv9odDlLNlF3UTBqM0FWbkZjS2s4eTVvNmc&usp=drive_web>
>
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Feb 18 21:21:24 2014
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:21:24 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Grassroots Democracy Act  HR 268
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Hello:


       Should the Green Party endorse "The Grassroots Democracy Act", HR 
268, recently introduced by US Rep. John Sarbanes 
(https://sarbanes.house.gov/free_details.asp?id=123)?  This would 
"Provide Americans with a $50 refundable tax credit to contribute to 
their preferred candidates for Congressional office."  It would also 
provide 5-to-1 matching for small-dollar contributions up to $100 and 
10-to-1 for candidates who won't accept contributions over $100.


       Could we add this to the agenda for Feb. 27?


       Spencer





From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Tue Feb 18 21:41:10 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:41:10 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Please let everyone in your county know to
 keep gathering signatures dur...
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Earlier today, I went to the Santa Clara County Registrar of Voters 
office and turned in 4 signatures for each of the 4 Green party state 
candidates plus 2 for Nathalie Hrizi, Peace & Freedom candidate for 
Insurance Commissioner. I was told that John would be called with how 
many of the Green candidate signatures were valid.


       Spencer


On 2/18/2014 4:41 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> It is my understanding that you must personally visit the registrar's 
> office and turn in all of the signatures that you collected yourself. 
> There are some additional forms to fill out  that must be signed by 
> the person who collected the signatures. I have to go do this 
> Wednesday for the Peace and Freedom candidate signatures that I turned 
> in to a Peace and Freedom Party organizer instead of the registrar.
>
> John Thielking
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
> *To:* carolineyacoub at att.net; WB4D23 at aol.com; 
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:15 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Please let everyone in your county 
> know to keep gathering signatures dur...
>
> Hi Everyone,
> The deadline to get all signatures collected on or before Feb 20 to 
> the Santa Clara County Registrar is before 5 pm Thurs Feb 20. I will 
> be turning in several on Thurs afternoon about 3 pm. If anyone wants 
> me to turn in theirs, please let me know or get them to me ASAP, or of 
> course you can turn them in yourself.
> When I go there I will inquire about our total signatures and whether 
> we will be permitted to collect supplemental signatures (and how many 
> and for how long).
> Sandy
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Wed Feb 19 04:07:46 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:07:46 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protest Leon Panetta, We, Th, &/or Fr
In-Reply-To: <71edca7dc28b58ac03f5b7b62cd3df31.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net>
References: <71edca7dc28b58ac03f5b7b62cd3df31.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net>
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I forgot to say that Sandy and I at going to go Wednesday (tonight) and that the general times for the protests event are 7P to 10P with the actual Panetta event beginning at 7:30 and getting out at 9:30 so poof course the beginning and end parts are probably going to be the most fruitful times and the in between time, not so much.

Green is education!

Drew

rainbeaufriend at riseup.net wrote:
>There is an effort (described below) to get a peaceful
>nonconfrontational
>protest of Leon Panetta @ the Flint Center, next to the De Anza
>Community
>College Campus (though no longer owned by the college) going this
>Wednesday the 19, Thursday the 20th and Friday the 21st. Leon Pannetta
>the
>former Secretary of State who was in charge of expanding the U.S.
>murder
>by drone program.  A student at De Anza named Brennan Robbins of
>Students
>for Justice (SfJ) came up with the idea and has been organizing it. 
>Another student Steven (don't know his last name) is going to be on
>site
>at the Flint Center to coordinate it.  The Students for Justice campus
>club only are prepared for a peaceful nonconfrontational, more
>educational
>style of protest, so if you wish to join you're welcome as long as you
>respect their wishes as the host for the protest.  See more details
>below...
>
>Green is GO!
>
>Drew
>
>
>Hi people,
>
>Please put in any ideas you may have or what times you could be
>available
>for the Panetta demonstration. (It won't be effective if only a few
>people
>show up.) I'm also attaching the links again for convenience.
>
>
> Panetta Factsheet
><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UZE3UmizSMEwTOENNMNixJ5fh4vFmyDCJlWWNLCu270/edit?usp=drive_web>
>
> Panetta planning spreadsheet
><https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AorbMRdqSv9odDlLNlF3UTBqM0FWbkZjS2s4eTVvNmc&usp=drive_web>
>
>Also, I'm forwarding this to two people (Adrien Hythier and Iqra
>Shaikh)
>who I talked to about this at Wellstone (I forgot to put them in the
>first
>one.)
>
>Come to SFJ tomorrow with ideas!
>
>In solidarity,
>Brennan Robins(SFJ)
>
>
>On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Brennan Robins <
>californiapoppyesq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Apologies for getting this out so late, it should have been done
>yesterday.
>>
>> In case any of you don't know(I suppose that would only apply to some
>of
>> the Green Party folks), Leon Panetta, former CIA director and Defense
>> Secretary, is coming to De Anza next week to speak as a part of the
>> "Celebrity Forum Series" at Flint Center. This will be on Wednesday
>Feb.
>> 19, Thursday Feb. 20, and Friday Feb. 21, from 8pm to 9:30pm.
>>
>> Because of his role in the US policy of unmanned drone strikes, SFJ
>may
>> organize a small action surrounding the event in partnership with the
>Green
>> Party and possibly the Student Rights & Services committee of the
>student
>> senate. I don't know what you guys are going to do, but we had
>planned a
>> non confrontational approach with a table and students talking to
>people
>> waiting in line to get their tickets.There may be more, depending on
>the
>> number of people we can get; Steven suggested having a few people lay
>on
>> the ground to represent drone victims, and I've heard a few other
>> suggestions.
>>
>> I have written out a fact sheet for this issue. It's quite moderate
>for
>> the purpose of convincing moderate Democrats and
>centrists--convincing
>> liberals should be easier. Most of it is answers to questions that
>people
>> may ask.
>>
>> The goal of this would be to actually change attendees' minds on this
>> issue, raise awareness of drones in the De Anza community, and raise
>> visibility of the participating organizations(SFJ, Greens, SRS,
>senate,
>> etc.) Some of the ticket holders are Democratic donors and they have
>some
>> leverage over local Democratic officeholders(money talks); there are
>> several local members of Congress that have not taken a position one
>way or
>> the other about this.
>>
>> What we would ask you to do is to forward this to groups that you
>know
>> that could help with this(especially SRS), contribute any ideas you
>may
>> have, and most importantly, think about your schedule and see if you
>can be
>> at De Anza one of these evenings; if we only get a few people it
>won't be
>> very effective, and I don't have the time to be there all three
>evenings.
>> We will need people to mainly walk up and down the line and talk to
>ticket
>> holders. If anyone is already planning something different we can
>integrate
>> the plans together.
>>
>> Please think about this and contribute what you can.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brennan Robins(SFJ)
>>
>>
>>  Panetta
>Factsheet<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UZE3UmizSMEwTOENNMNixJ5fh4vFmyDCJlWWNLCu270/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>
>>  Panetta planning
>spreadsheet<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AorbMRdqSv9odDlLNlF3UTBqM0FWbkZjS2s4eTVvNmc&usp=drive_web>
>>
>>
>
>
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Wed Feb 19 04:29:38 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:29:38 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protest Leon Panetta, We, Th, &/or Fr
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Oh and further see this article explaining how Albright and the President of Pakistan as well as Fox news had announced publicly that Usama Bin Laden actually died in 2001 of Marfan's Disease. Panetta and President Obama perpetuated the Bush fiction that Bin Laden was still alive to pursue their war making obsession and then staged an elaborate assassination (of somebody, who knows who - probably in order to recover Bin Laden's body which was thought to be buried at the attacked compound in Pakistan and to make Obama look tough and appealing to the neo-conservatives).

http://www.sailanmuslim.com/news/osama-bin-laden-died-of-natural-cause-on-december-2001-so-whom-did-obama-kill-in-pakistan-on-sunday-1-may-by-latheef-farook/

Green is revealing!

Drew

Drew <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net> wrote:
>I forgot to say that Sandy and I at going to go Wednesday (tonight) and
>that the general times for the protests event are 7P to 10P with the
>actual Panetta event beginning at 7:30 and getting out at 9:30 so poof
>course the beginning and end parts are probably going to be the most
>fruitful times and the in between time, not so much.
>
>Green is education!
>
>Drew
>
>rainbeaufriend at riseup.net wrote:
>>There is an effort (described below) to get a peaceful
>>nonconfrontational
>>protest of Leon Panetta @ the Flint Center, next to the De Anza
>>Community
>>College Campus (though no longer owned by the college) going this
>>Wednesday the 19, Thursday the 20th and Friday the 21st. Leon Pannetta
>>the
>>former Secretary of State who was in charge of expanding the U.S.
>>murder
>>by drone program.  A student at De Anza named Brennan Robbins of
>>Students
>>for Justice (SfJ) came up with the idea and has been organizing it. 
>>Another student Steven (don't know his last name) is going to be on
>>site
>>at the Flint Center to coordinate it.  The Students for Justice campus
>>club only are prepared for a peaceful nonconfrontational, more
>>educational
>>style of protest, so if you wish to join you're welcome as long as you
>>respect their wishes as the host for the protest.  See more details
>>below...
>>
>>Green is GO!
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>
>>Hi people,
>>
>>Please put in any ideas you may have or what times you could be
>>available
>>for the Panetta demonstration. (It won't be effective if only a few
>>people
>>show up.) I'm also attaching the links again for convenience.
>>
>>
>> Panetta Factsheet
>><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UZE3UmizSMEwTOENNMNixJ5fh4vFmyDCJlWWNLCu270/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>
>> Panetta planning spreadsheet
>><https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AorbMRdqSv9odDlLNlF3UTBqM0FWbkZjS2s4eTVvNmc&usp=drive_web>
>>
>>Also, I'm forwarding this to two people (Adrien Hythier and Iqra
>>Shaikh)
>>who I talked to about this at Wellstone (I forgot to put them in the
>>first
>>one.)
>>
>>Come to SFJ tomorrow with ideas!
>>
>>In solidarity,
>>Brennan Robins(SFJ)
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Brennan Robins <
>>californiapoppyesq at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Apologies for getting this out so late, it should have been done
>>yesterday.
>>>
>>> In case any of you don't know(I suppose that would only apply to
>some
>>of
>>> the Green Party folks), Leon Panetta, former CIA director and
>Defense
>>> Secretary, is coming to De Anza next week to speak as a part of the
>>> "Celebrity Forum Series" at Flint Center. This will be on Wednesday
>>Feb.
>>> 19, Thursday Feb. 20, and Friday Feb. 21, from 8pm to 9:30pm.
>>>
>>> Because of his role in the US policy of unmanned drone strikes, SFJ
>>may
>>> organize a small action surrounding the event in partnership with
>the
>>Green
>>> Party and possibly the Student Rights & Services committee of the
>>student
>>> senate. I don't know what you guys are going to do, but we had
>>planned a
>>> non confrontational approach with a table and students talking to
>>people
>>> waiting in line to get their tickets.There may be more, depending on
>>the
>>> number of people we can get; Steven suggested having a few people
>lay
>>on
>>> the ground to represent drone victims, and I've heard a few other
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> I have written out a fact sheet for this issue. It's quite moderate
>>for
>>> the purpose of convincing moderate Democrats and
>>centrists--convincing
>>> liberals should be easier. Most of it is answers to questions that
>>people
>>> may ask.
>>>
>>> The goal of this would be to actually change attendees' minds on
>this
>>> issue, raise awareness of drones in the De Anza community, and raise
>>> visibility of the participating organizations(SFJ, Greens, SRS,
>>senate,
>>> etc.) Some of the ticket holders are Democratic donors and they have
>>some
>>> leverage over local Democratic officeholders(money talks); there are
>>> several local members of Congress that have not taken a position one
>>way or
>>> the other about this.
>>>
>>> What we would ask you to do is to forward this to groups that you
>>know
>>> that could help with this(especially SRS), contribute any ideas you
>>may
>>> have, and most importantly, think about your schedule and see if you
>>can be
>>> at De Anza one of these evenings; if we only get a few people it
>>won't be
>>> very effective, and I don't have the time to be there all three
>>evenings.
>>> We will need people to mainly walk up and down the line and talk to
>>ticket
>>> holders. If anyone is already planning something different we can
>>integrate
>>> the plans together.
>>>
>>> Please think about this and contribute what you can.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brennan Robins(SFJ)
>>>
>>>
>>>  Panetta
>>Factsheet<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UZE3UmizSMEwTOENNMNixJ5fh4vFmyDCJlWWNLCu270/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>>
>>>  Panetta planning
>>spreadsheet<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AorbMRdqSv9odDlLNlF3UTBqM0FWbkZjS2s4eTVvNmc&usp=drive_web>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Wed Feb 19 08:57:53 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:57:53 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for
 Citizens'	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
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       What constitutes "promoting a club"?


       It would seem to me that one primary distinction would be whether 
the invitation was extended to the general public or only a list of 
individuals you more or less already know and have invited by name.  If 
the former, it's a public event.  In the latter case, I have two further 
questions regarding what you wrote:


             1.  At what point are you showing the movie on your own 
behalf vs. on behalf of the Green Party?  Probably if you request 
donations, that could create a problem using a home viewing license.  If 
you offer literature on the Green Party, invite them to a meeting or ask 
them to register Green, it may depend on how much you push the Green 
Party:  If the event is primarily social, and mentioning the Green Party 
is just one of the things you do and believe in, I wouldn't know.


             2.  Then there is the question of getting caught and 
enforcement:  If you invite a Tea Party radical, who would happily see 
you imprisoned as a Terrorist, you could be reported and then sued for 
copyright infringement.  The mainstream commercial media has 
successfully used SLAPP (Strategic lawsuit against public participation) 
lawsuits to reduce competition [Wikipedia, "Free Culture (book)", 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Culture_(book)].


       Spencer


On 2/18/2014 11:14 AM, John Thielking wrote:
> Bad news:  I just now got off the phone with my lawyer and he says 
> that showing a movie at a private home to promote a club is not 
> covered under the noncommercial license that comes with most movies 
> for home viewing. So we really should get explicit permissions to show 
> all of the movies that we show on behalf of the Green Party, wherever 
> it is that we show them.
>
> John Thielking
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
> *To:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; Caroline Yacoub 
> <carolineyacoub at att.net>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; 
> "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 7:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' 
> Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
> As I recall I was only required to pay the $150 for showing 
> Inconveinent Truth because I was showing it at my store. If I were 
> doing one of the other house parties where I was showing it at a 
> private residence, I was not required to get a public viewing license. 
> Presumably the people running the house parties were also NOT 
> collecting donations.  So if you want to be 100% legit on movie night 
> and show mainstream movies without permission you could try showing 
> them at a private residence. I'd have to get back to you after I talk 
> to my lawyer about asking for donations in that situation.
>
> John Thielking
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; Spencer Graves 
> <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" 
> <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" 
> <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 7:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' 
> Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
> As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table 
> were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. 
> However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get 
> the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth 
> (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we 
> were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we 
> ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take 
> in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist 
> pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, 
> such as Genetic Roulette.  As for organizing anything, don't look to 
> me to start something and then leave town in June.
>
> John Thielking
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> *To:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; 
> "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; 
> "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' 
> Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
> As to numbers 2.2 and 3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other 
> groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought 
> to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.
>
> As to number 2.1, Attaboy!
>
> Caroline
>
>
> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
> *To:* perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' 
> Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>
> Hi, Sandy:
>
>
>       1. Thanks for offering to serve on the County Council. Someone 
> needs to check the rules on procedure so we can make it official.
>
>
>       2.  I'd be open to changing the format of our monthly meeting.  
> For example, we could start at 7 PM with a guest presentation or a 
> movie followed by a discussion that would run until 9 PM followed by a 
> half hour general business meeting with agenda organized by the County 
> Council.
>
>
> 2.1.  However, a change like this would require someone taking the 
> lead to organize this.  The obvious lead organizers should, I think, 
> be people most concerned about our major foci. These are currently 
> environment and universal health care. Those are important, but I'm 
> more concerned about government secrecy and democracy. Regarding the 
> latter, I've recently attended regular meetings of the Santa Clara 
> County Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections and the League of 
> Women Voters. I've already been able to restart stalled discussions on 
> getting Instant Runoff Voting here in Santa Clara County.
>
>
> 2.2.  Is anyone interested in helping organize a showing of 
> "Inequality for All"? Just over an hour ago, I finally received word 
> that we can now show "Inequality for All" on reasonable terms -- after 
> having had tentative showing canceled twice because of misinformation 
> about licensing. Dream Menders will meet next Wednesday and discuss 
> showing this at the Peace Center, presumably 2-4:30 PM on a Sunday 
> like March 16, 23, or 30.  Any preferences?
>
>
>       3.  Some will remember that Merriam Kathleen, Caroline Yacoub 
> and others (John Thielking?) organized a Green Movie night at the 
> Peace Center for 2 years. The results from that were OK but not 
> adequate to justify the level of effort required to keep it going.  
> Before we change how we manage our monthly meeting(s), we need to ask 
> Caroline and others what we should do to try to obtain greater success.
>
>
>       Spencer
>
>
> On 2/11/2014 5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Spencer,
>> I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last 
>> resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority 
>> candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will 
>> dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on 
>> the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for 
>> the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
>> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
>> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
>> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
>> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
>> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
>> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
>> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, 
>> and broadly publicized.
>> With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or 
>> not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime 
>> we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we 
>> endorse their activity or not.
>> Sandy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>> To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:03 pm
>> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory 
>> Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>>
>> Hello, All:
>>
>>
>> 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7.
>> After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle,
>> Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or
>> phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next
>> monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have
>> been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to
>> meetings.
>>
>>
>> 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This
>> Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election
>> days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters.
>> They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2
>> (http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99  
>> ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS).
>>
>>
>> ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV)
>> and increasing the volume of information available to the public
>> including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings
>> since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending
>> these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would
>> likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and
>> Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is
>> a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you
>> don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this
>> board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply.
>> Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial
>> District 2. This is an unpaid position.
>>
>>
>> I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in
>> serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities.
>>
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Spencer
>>
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From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:00:25 -0800 (PST)
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I don't know about you guys, but I've never thought of the Green Party as a club.
 

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????? What constitutes "promoting a club"?? 


????? It would seem to me that one primary distinction would be
      whether the invitation was extended to the general public or only
      a list of individuals you more or less already know and have
      invited by name.? If the former, it's a public event.? In the
      latter case, I have two further questions regarding what you
      wrote:? 


??? ??????? 1.? At what point are you showing the movie on your
      own behalf vs. on behalf of the Green Party?? Probably if you
      request donations, that could create a problem using a home
      viewing license.? If you offer literature on the Green Party,
      invite them to a meeting or ask them to register Green, it may
      depend on how much you push the Green Party:? If the event is
      primarily social, and mentioning the Green Party is just one of
      the things you do and believe in, I wouldn't know.? 


??? ??????? 2.? Then there is the question of getting caught and
      enforcement:? If you invite a Tea Party radical, who would happily
      see you imprisoned as a Terrorist, you could be reported and then
      sued for copyright infringement.? The mainstream commercial media
      has successfully used SLAPP (Strategic lawsuit against public
      participation) lawsuits to reduce competition [Wikipedia, "Free
      Culture (book)", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Culture_(book)].? 


????? Spencer


On 2/18/2014 11:14 AM, John Thielking wrote:
 
Bad news:? I just now got off the phone with my lawyer and he says that showing a movie at a private home to promote a club is not covered under the noncommercial license that comes with most movies for home viewing. So we really should get explicit permissions to show all of the movies that we show on behalf of the Green Party, wherever it is that we show them.
>
>John Thielking
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>________________________________
> From: John Thielking mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com
>To: John Thielking mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com; Caroline Yacoub mailto:carolineyacoub at att.net; mailto:perrysandy at aol.com mailto:perrysandy at aol.com; mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>  
>
>
>As I recall I was only required to pay the $150 for showing Inconveinent Truth because I was showing it at my store. If I were doing one of the other house parties where I was showing it at a private residence, I was not required to get a public viewing license. Presumably the people running the house parties were also NOT collecting donations.? So if you want to be 100% legit on movie night and show mainstream movies without permission you could try showing them at a private residence. I'd have to get back to you after I talk to my lawyer about asking for donations in that situation. 
>
> 
>John Thielking
> 
>
> 
>
>________________________________
> From: John Thielking mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com
>To: Caroline Yacoub mailto:carolineyacoub at att.net; Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; mailto:perrysandy at aol.com mailto:perrysandy at aol.com; mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>  
>
>
>As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, such as Genetic Roulette.? As for organizing anything, don't look to me to start something and then leave town in June. 
>
>
> 
>John Thielking
> 
>
> 
>
>________________________________
> From: Caroline Yacoub mailto:carolineyacoub at att.net
>To: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; mailto:perrysandy at aol.com mailto:perrysandy at aol.com; mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>  
>
>
> 
>As to numbers 2.2 and?3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily. 
>
> 
>As to number 2.1, Attaboy! 
>
> 
>Caroline 
>
> 
>
> 
>From: Spencer Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
>  
>
>
>Hi, Sandy:? 
>
>
>????? 1.?
                                                          Thanks for
                                                          offering to
                                                          serve on the
                                                          County
                                                          Council.?
                                                          Someone needs
                                                          to check the
                                                          rules on
                                                          procedure so
                                                          we can make it
                                                          official.? 
>
>
>????? 2.? I'd
                                                          be open to
                                                          changing the
                                                          format of our
                                                          monthly
                                                          meeting.? For
                                                          example, we
                                                          could start at
                                                          7 PM with a
                                                          guest
                                                          presentation
                                                          or a movie
                                                          followed by a
                                                          discussion
                                                          that would run
                                                          until 9 PM
                                                          followed by a
                                                          half hour
                                                          general
                                                          business
                                                          meeting with
                                                          agenda
                                                          organized by
                                                          the County
                                                          Council.? 
>
>
>??? ???????
                                                          2.1.? However,
                                                          a change like
                                                          this would
                                                          require
                                                          someone taking
                                                          the lead to
                                                          organize
                                                          this.? The
                                                          obvious lead
                                                          organizers
                                                          should, I
                                                          think, be
                                                          people most
                                                          concerned
                                                          about our
                                                          major foci.?
                                                          These are
                                                          currently
                                                          environment
                                                          and universal
                                                          health care.?
                                                          Those are
                                                          important, but
                                                          I'm more
                                                          concerned
                                                          about
                                                          government
                                                          secrecy and
                                                          democracy.?
                                                          Regarding the
                                                          latter, I've
                                                          recently
                                                          attended
                                                          regular
                                                          meetings of
                                                          the Santa
                                                          Clara County
                                                          Citizens'
                                                          Advisory
                                                          Commission on
                                                          Elections and
                                                          the League of
                                                          Women Voters.?
                                                          I've already
                                                          been able to
                                                          restart
                                                          stalled
                                                          discussions on
                                                          getting
                                                          Instant Runoff
                                                          Voting here in
                                                          Santa Clara
                                                          County.? 
>
>
>??? ???????
                                                          2.2.? Is
                                                          anyone
                                                          interested in
                                                          helping
                                                          organize a
                                                          showing of
                                                          "Inequality
                                                          for All"??
                                                          Just over an
                                                          hour ago, I
                                                          finally
                                                          received word
                                                          that we can
                                                          now show
                                                          "Inequality
                                                          for All" on
                                                          reasonable
                                                          terms -- after
                                                          having had
                                                          tentative
                                                          showing
                                                          canceled twice
                                                          because of
                                                          misinformation
                                                          about
                                                          licensing.?
                                                          Dream Menders
                                                          will meet next
                                                          Wednesday and
                                                          discuss
                                                          showing this
                                                          at the Peace
                                                          Center,
                                                          presumably
                                                          2-4:30 PM on a
                                                          Sunday like
                                                          March 16, 23,
                                                          or 30.? Any
                                                          preferences?? 
>
>
>??? ? 3.? Some
                                                          will remember
                                                          that Merriam
                                                          Kathleen,
                                                          Caroline
                                                          Yacoub and
                                                          others (John
                                                          Thielking?)
                                                          organized a
                                                          Green Movie
                                                          night at the
                                                          Peace Center
                                                          for 2 years.?
                                                          The results
                                                          from that were
                                                          OK but not
                                                          adequate to
                                                          justify the
                                                          level of
                                                          effort
                                                          required to
                                                          keep it
                                                          going.? Before
                                                          we change how
                                                          we manage our
                                                          monthly
                                                          meeting(s), we
                                                          need to ask
                                                          Caroline and
                                                          others what we
                                                          should do to
                                                          try to obtain
                                                          greater
                                                          success.? 
>
>
>????? Spencer 
>
>
>On 2/11/2014
                                                          5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi Spencer, 
>>
>>I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever. 
>>
>>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized. 
>>
>>With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not. 
>>
>>Sandy 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Spencer
                                                          Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>>To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>Sent: Thu, Feb
                                                          6, 2014 9:03
                                                          pm
>>Subject:
                                                          [GPSCC-chat]
                                                          recruiting
                                                          volunteers for
                                                          Citizens'
                                                          Advisory
                                                          Commission on
                                                          Elections
                                                          & Greens
                                                          County Council
>>
>>
>>Hello, All: 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings. 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS). ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position. I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities. Best Wishes,
Spencer     
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-- 
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Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
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From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:55:54 -0800 (PST)
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I didn't want to get too deep into the question of promoting a club with my lawyer as they are not authorized to give opinions about nonprofit orgs, mainly they give advice about for profit businesses. I'm satisfied that advertising a movie showing to a wider audience than just your friends is considered to be a commercial venture for purposes of copyright infringement even if the movie is shown at a private residence. Al Gore may have made an exception to this for Inconvenient Truth, but that is not required of other copyright holders. I have been uncomfortable with supporting movie showings at the Peace Center of movies where it was obvious to me that fees of $100 or more should be paid to the copyright holder and yet we were making a net profit off the movie showing with only 10-15 people attending. I'm not going to participate in that kind of thing in the future.? Like I said before I have had access to other movies that we could have shown or did
 show where there was no fee requested by the copyright holder or where I paid something like $250 for a copy that could be publicly shown indefinitely. Media Education Foundation is one source for documentaries that cost $200 or so for copies that can be shown publicly.


John Thielking


________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens'	Advisory	Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
 


????? What constitutes "promoting a club"?? 


????? It would seem to me that one primary distinction would be
      whether the invitation was extended to the general public or only
      a list of individuals you more or less already know and have
      invited by name.? If the former, it's a public event.? In the
      latter case, I have two further questions regarding what you
      wrote:? 


??? ??????? 1.? At what point are you showing the movie on your
      own behalf vs. on behalf of the Green Party?? Probably if you
      request donations, that could create a problem using a home
      viewing license.? If you offer literature on the Green Party,
      invite them to a meeting or ask them to register Green, it may
      depend on how much you push the Green Party:? If the event is
      primarily social, and mentioning the Green Party is just one of
      the things you do and believe in, I wouldn't know.? 


??? ??????? 2.? Then there is the question of getting caught and
      enforcement:? If you invite a Tea Party radical, who would happily
      see you imprisoned as a Terrorist, you could be reported and then
      sued for copyright infringement.? The mainstream commercial media
      has successfully used SLAPP (Strategic lawsuit against public
      participation) lawsuits to reduce competition [Wikipedia, "Free
      Culture (book)", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Culture_(book)].? 


????? Spencer



On 2/18/2014 11:14 AM, John Thielking wrote:

Bad news:? I just now got off the phone with my lawyer and he says that showing a movie at a private home to promote a club is not covered under the noncommercial license that comes with most movies for home viewing. So we really should get explicit permissions to show all of the movies that we show on behalf of the Green Party, wherever it is that we show them.
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
> 
>
>
>As I recall I was only required to pay the $150 for showing Inconveinent Truth because I was showing it at my store. If I were doing one of the other house parties where I was showing it at a private residence, I was not required to get a public viewing license. Presumably the people running the house parties were also NOT collecting donations.? So if you want to be 100% legit on movie night and show mainstream movies without permission you could try showing them at a private residence. I'd have to get back to you after I talk to my lawyer about asking for donations in that situation.
>
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
> 
>
>
>As far as movie night goes, the movies that I brought to the table were always with the appropriate permissions to show them publicly. However, I have in the past had to pay up to $150 per showing to get the proper license for a mainstream movie such as Inconveinent Truth (shown at my fair trade crafts store in 2006 or 7). I don't think we were doing that type of dotting the i's and crossing the t's when we ran movie night before. So if we want to be 100% legit and still take in a net positive on donations, we should aim for getting activist pieces that we can get low or zero cost permissions to show publicly, such as Genetic Roulette.? As for organizing anything, don't look to me to start something and then leave town in June. 
>
>
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
> 
>
>
>As to numbers 2.2 and?3, almost everyone belongs to at least two other groups. If we all try to bring people from our other groups, we ought to be able to fill the Peace Center easily.
>
>
>As to number 2.1, Attaboy!
>
>
>Caroline
>
>
>
>
>From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] recruiting volunteers for Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections & Greens County Council
> 
>
>
>Hi, Sandy:? 
>
>
>????? 1.?
                                                          Thanks for
                                                          offering to
                                                          serve on the
                                                          County
                                                          Council.?
                                                          Someone needs
                                                          to check the
                                                          rules on
                                                          procedure so
                                                          we can make it
                                                          official.? 
>
>
>????? 2.? I'd
                                                          be open to
                                                          changing the
                                                          format of our
                                                          monthly
                                                          meeting.? For
                                                          example, we
                                                          could start at
                                                          7 PM with a
                                                          guest
                                                          presentation
                                                          or a movie
                                                          followed by a
                                                          discussion
                                                          that would run
                                                          until 9 PM
                                                          followed by a
                                                          half hour
                                                          general
                                                          business
                                                          meeting with
                                                          agenda
                                                          organized by
                                                          the County
                                                          Council.? 
>
>
>??? ???????
                                                          2.1.? However,
                                                          a change like
                                                          this would
                                                          require
                                                          someone taking
                                                          the lead to
                                                          organize
                                                          this.? The
                                                          obvious lead
                                                          organizers
                                                          should, I
                                                          think, be
                                                          people most
                                                          concerned
                                                          about our
                                                          major foci.?
                                                          These are
                                                          currently
                                                          environment
                                                          and universal
                                                          health care.?
                                                          Those are
                                                          important, but
                                                          I'm more
                                                          concerned
                                                          about
                                                          government
                                                          secrecy and
                                                          democracy.?
                                                          Regarding the
                                                          latter, I've
                                                          recently
                                                          attended
                                                          regular
                                                          meetings of
                                                          the Santa
                                                          Clara County
                                                          Citizens'
                                                          Advisory
                                                          Commission on
                                                          Elections and
                                                          the League of
                                                          Women Voters.?
                                                          I've already
                                                          been able to
                                                          restart
                                                          stalled
                                                          discussions on
                                                          getting
                                                          Instant Runoff
                                                          Voting here in
                                                          Santa Clara
                                                          County.? 
>
>
>??? ???????
                                                          2.2.? Is
                                                          anyone
                                                          interested in
                                                          helping
                                                          organize a
                                                          showing of
                                                          "Inequality
                                                          for All"??
                                                          Just over an
                                                          hour ago, I
                                                          finally
                                                          received word
                                                          that we can
                                                          now show
                                                          "Inequality
                                                          for All" on
                                                          reasonable
                                                          terms -- after
                                                          having had
                                                          tentative
                                                          showing
                                                          canceled twice
                                                          because of
                                                          misinformation
                                                          about
                                                          licensing.?
                                                          Dream Menders
                                                          will meet next
                                                          Wednesday and
                                                          discuss
                                                          showing this
                                                          at the Peace
                                                          Center,
                                                          presumably
                                                          2-4:30 PM on a
                                                          Sunday like
                                                          March 16, 23,
                                                          or 30.? Any
                                                          preferences?? 
>
>
>??? ? 3.? Some
                                                          will remember
                                                          that Merriam
                                                          Kathleen,
                                                          Caroline
                                                          Yacoub and
                                                          others (John
                                                          Thielking?)
                                                          organized a
                                                          Green Movie
                                                          night at the
                                                          Peace Center
                                                          for 2 years.?
                                                          The results
                                                          from that were
                                                          OK but not
                                                          adequate to
                                                          justify the
                                                          level of
                                                          effort
                                                          required to
                                                          keep it
                                                          going.? Before
                                                          we change how
                                                          we manage our
                                                          monthly
                                                          meeting(s), we
                                                          need to ask
                                                          Caroline and
                                                          others what we
                                                          should do to
                                                          try to obtain
                                                          greater
                                                          success.? 
>
>
>????? Spencer 
>
>
>On 2/11/2014
                                                          5:34 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
>
> 
>>Hi Spencer,
>>?
>>I would be willing to serve on the County Council, but only as a last resort, after we have taken serious steps to recruit minority candidates and women. Otherwise, I am afraid our County Council will dwindle further, from three to two, two to one, etc. until we are on the verge of disappearing - just at the very time the situation for the Green Party is getting riper than ever.
>>?
>>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>>?
>>With all due respect, I am tired of long discussions about whether or not we should endorse a long list of projects, while in the meantime we are growing so small that people care less and less whether we endorse their activity or not.
>>?
>>Sandy
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Spencer
                                                          Graves mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
>>To: GPSCC mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>Sent: Thu, Feb
                                                          6, 2014 9:03
                                                          pm
>>Subject:
                                                          [GPSCC-chat]
                                                          recruiting
                                                          volunteers for
                                                          Citizens'
                                                          Advisory
                                                          Commission on
                                                          Elections
                                                          & Greens
                                                          County Council
>>
>>
>>Hello, All: 1. COUNTY COUNCIL: Our official County Council is supposed to have 7. 
After John Thielking leaves in June, we will be down to 3 (Jim Doyle, 
Betsy and me). The duties are simple: Respond to an occasional email or 
phone call to help decide an issue that we prefer not wait for the next 
monthly meeting. Other requirements: Live in Santa Clara County and have 
been registered Green for at least a year. It's not necessary to come to 
meetings. 2. SANTA CLARA COUNTY CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS: This 
Commission meets the first Tuesday of each month except on election 
days. It helps the Board of Supervisors manage the Registrar of Voters. 
They currently have a vacancy in Supervisorial District 2 
(http://www.sccgov.org/sites/bos/bnc/CABODocs/MaddyReport.html#CITIZENS%E2%80%99 ADVISORY COMMISSION ON ELECTIONS). ** This is a key post from which to advance instant runoff voting (IRV) 
and increasing the volume of information available to the public 
including about campaign finance. I've been attending their meetings 
since last September. If we had had 1 or 2 people actively attending 
these meetings for the past decade and pushing gently for IRV, we would 
likely have gotten it 5 years ago or so, shortly after San Francisco and 
Alameda Counties started using IRV. One of the current Commissioners is 
a Peace & Freedom party member (Dave Kadlecek), which indicates that you 
don't have to be a Democrat or a Republican to be appointed to this 
board. Two of the current board members asked me to apply. 
Unfortunately, I'm not eligible, because I do not live in Supervisorial 
District 2. This is an unpaid position. I'd be pleased to talk with anyone who might be interested either in 
serving in trying to find someone to serve in either of these capacities. Best Wishes,
Spencer  
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 19 13:57:11 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:57:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
Message-ID: <1392847031.72219.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Pete and I went to the Registrar Of Voters today to turn in signatures for the two P & F Party candidates. The ROV only wanted one person's signature on the forms at the office for turning in signatures, so I suppose that you don't have to personally visit them to turn in the signatures that you collect. 


There is an additional signature collection period that runs from Friday Feb 21, 2014 to March 7, 2014. During that period anyone can collect up to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to Feb 20, 2014 at 5PM.? That is you don't have to limit yourself to only collecting the total number of invalid signatures that you got personally. You can collect more than that if you want and they will all be pooled in one batch with the maximum number restricted to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to the initial Feb 20, 2014 deadline.

When I turned in my signatures for Green Party candidates last week, I got a voicemail from Ashley at 408-282-3044 saying that

Ellen H Brown had 17 valid and 5 invalid signatures

Laura Wells had 14 valid and 5 invalid signatures

David Scott Curtis had 13 valid and 5 invalid signatures

I deleted the voicemail that had the results for Luis Rodriguez before I could record the results so I called Ashley back and left a voicemail asking her to repeat the info for Luis Rodriguez.

That is all for now.

John Thielking
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 19 14:18:08 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:18:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
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I just now got a call back from the ROV. The total signatures that I turned in for Luis Rodriguez are:

18 valid and 4 invalid.

We can call them on the 21st and they will tell us the total valid/invalid for Santa Clara county for each candidate.

John Thielking



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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:57 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
 


Pete and I went to the Registrar Of Voters today to turn in signatures for the two P & F Party candidates. The ROV only wanted one person's signature on the forms at the office for turning in signatures, so I suppose that you don't have to personally visit them to turn in the signatures that you collect. 


There is an additional signature collection period that runs from Friday Feb 21, 2014 to March 7, 2014. During that period anyone can collect up to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to Feb 20, 2014 at 5PM.? That is you don't have to limit yourself to only collecting the total number of invalid signatures that you got personally. You can collect more than that if you want and they will all be pooled in one batch with the maximum number restricted to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to the initial Feb 20, 2014 deadline.

When I turned in my signatures for Green Party candidates last week, I got a voicemail from Ashley at 408-282-3044 saying that

Ellen H Brown had 17 valid and 5 invalid signatures

Laura Wells had 14 valid and 5 invalid signatures

David Scott Curtis had 13 valid and 5 invalid signatures

I deleted the voicemail that had the results for Luis Rodriguez before I could record the results so I called Ashley back and left a voicemail asking her to repeat the info for Luis Rodriguez.

That is all for now.

John Thielking

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From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:34:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
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Tian and I took over around 73. We haven't heard back yet.
 

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I just now got a call back from the ROV. The total signatures that I turned in for Luis Rodriguez are:

18 valid and 4 invalid.

We can call them on the 21st and they will tell us the total valid/invalid for Santa Clara county for each candidate.

John Thielking

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:57 PM
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Pete and I went to the Registrar Of Voters today to turn in signatures for the two P & F Party candidates. The ROV only wanted one person's signature on the forms at the office for turning in signatures, so I suppose that you don't have to personally visit them to turn in the signatures that you collect. 


There is an additional signature collection period that runs from Friday Feb 21, 2014 to March 7, 2014. During that period anyone can collect up to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to Feb 20, 2014 at 5PM.? That is you don't have to limit yourself to only collecting the total number of invalid signatures that you got personally. You can collect more than that if you want and they will all be pooled in one batch with the maximum number restricted to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to the initial Feb 20, 2014 deadline.

When I turned in my signatures for Green Party candidates last week, I got a voicemail from Ashley at 408-282-3044 saying that

Ellen H Brown had 17 valid and 5 invalid signatures

Laura Wells had 14 valid and 5 invalid signatures

David Scott Curtis had 13 valid and 5 invalid signatures

I deleted the voicemail that had the results for Luis Rodriguez before I could record the results so I called Ashley back and left a voicemail asking her to repeat the info for Luis Rodriguez.

That is all for now.

John Thielking

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From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:41:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
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Actually, I'm pretty sure we're over 150.
 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:57 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
  


Pete and I went to the Registrar Of Voters today to turn in signatures for the two P & F Party candidates. The ROV only wanted one person's signature on the forms at the office for turning in signatures, so I suppose that you don't have to personally visit them to turn in the signatures that you collect. 


There is an additional signature collection period that runs from Friday Feb 21, 2014 to March 7, 2014. During that period anyone can collect up to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to Feb 20, 2014 at 5PM.? That is you don't have to limit yourself to only collecting the total number of invalid signatures that you got personally. You can collect more than that if you want and they will all be pooled in one batch with the maximum number restricted to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to the initial Feb 20, 2014 deadline.

When I turned in my signatures for Green Party candidates last week, I got a voicemail from Ashley at 408-282-3044 saying that

Ellen H Brown had 17 valid and 5 invalid signatures

Laura Wells had 14 valid and 5 invalid signatures

David Scott Curtis had 13 valid and 5 invalid signatures

I deleted the voicemail that had the results for Luis Rodriguez before I could record the results so I called Ashley back and left a voicemail asking her to repeat the info for Luis Rodriguez.

That is all for now.

John Thielking

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 19 20:25:04 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 20:25:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] What really is going on in Kiev
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http://rt.com/shows/documentary/kiev-masks-of-revolution-388/ At 3 to 5 minutes into this video, evidence and testimony are 
presented that strongly suggest that the US Embassy in Kiev was involved in funneling massive amounts of cash to aid and outright buy opposition protesters in Kiev.  John McCain coming to Ukraine was the least of the Ukrainian govt's problems. That's for sure.  For better playback 
performance of the video, select "download video" and "open with windows media player". This video is not yet available on Youtube, sorry.? John Thielking

Kiev: Masks of revolution
rt.com
Kiev, Ukraine?s Independence Square, also known as Euromaidan, is still 
occupied by people demanding closer integration with Europe and the 
resignation of President Viktor Yanukovich and his government.
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Hi all,

Thought you might enjoy this profile of Kate Gordon. She's speaking tonight at Acterra (who knows maybe some of you are there). Her Risky Business project looks good: http://riskybusiness.org/about


http://www.eenews.net/stories/1059994329/print


NEWSMAKER:  
Steyer's secret weapon emerges as power in climate debate  
Anne C. Mulkern, E&E reporter
Greenwire: Monday, February 10, 2014 
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- High-profile billionaire and 
environmental activist Tom Steyer held center stage at an event here, 
speaking about energy and politics to an audience of business power 
players. There were few surprises -- until the end. 
In his final minutes, Steyer announced that he planned to launch an 
effort to quantify what inaction on climate change could cost the 
country. When a reporter afterward raced for Steyer, he begged off 
questions, waving for his aide, Kate Gordon. 
Sitting in the near-empty auditorium after the event, Gordon 
explained the plan. She also revealed an important detail: The study was her idea, one she had long waited to put into action. 
"I've wanted to do this for five years, and I never felt like I was 
in the right place to do it until working with Tom," Gordon said. 
Steyer's San Francisco-based nonprofit policy shop, Next Generation, 
offered the perfect perch to launch the effort, she said, because "we're not in Washington. We're not an environmental group. We're not 
identified as having a particular dog in the fight." 
Kate Gordon, Next Generation vice president and director for energy and climate. Photo courtesy of Next Generation. 
That study on climate inaction now is underway. Called Risky Business, it's 
headed by Steyer, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I) and 
George W. Bush administration Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. 
Gordon, 40, is the Risky Business executive director. She determines strategy; coordinates with the co-chairmen and economists; and talks to interested people with environmental groups, businesses and the media. 
"It's what needs to happen in the climate debate right now," Gordon 
said. "What it really is is a way to shift the conversation to an 
entirely different way of talking about climate." 
Those who know Gordon say it shows how, from behind the scenes, 
she's helping write the script on environmental action in the United 
States. 
Risky Business is her latest effort directed at driving change. 
Before joining Steyer's nonprofit, she spent a decade crafting reports 
and analyses that several people said influenced state and federal 
policies, including the green jobs movement and elements of President 
Obama's stimulus package, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. 
Over the past 20 months, Gordon has guided Steyer as he's emerged as a political force. She said she's advised him on issues that include 
climate change, energy investment, renewable electricity and energy 
policy. For the first year of his advocacy, she prepared him for 
meetings, supplied briefs about issues he was advocating and crafted 
many of his speeches. 
Now she's executing her goal of quantifying climate inaction with Steyer's backing and resources. The magazine Campaigns & Elections in November included Gordon on its list of the 50 influencers to watch 
ahead of the 2014 election cycle, citing her role in the Risky Business 
study on climate change costs. 
"She understands how the game is played, how power is exerted and 
how to pull the right levers," said Adam Browning, co-founder of 
advocacy group Vote Solar and an activist who has worked with Gordon on 
green issues. 
"Not everybody knows how to put together a campaign that succeeds," 
he added. "It's actually a rarer skill than you might think. She knows 
how to do it." 
'This is a massive goal' 
The aim of the Risky Business climate study is to get people 
thinking about the issue in a different way, Gordon said during an 
interview in Next Generation's San Francisco office, which features faux wood floors and a view of the Transamerica building. 
A big challenge in dealing with climate change, she said, is that 
people can feel it's so overwhelming, their actions won't make a 
difference. She wants to move the conversation past resignation to 
optimism. 
"My biggest goal is ... to make this something people care about," 
Gordon said, but to also make them "want to take action and be really at the forefront and be leaders on figuring out kind of a new way of doing business and moving away from fossil fuels. 
"It will not just take us. This is a massive goal," she added. "It will take everybody working together." 
Gordon understands good policy and knows the political routes to 
achieving it, said Matt James, executive director at Next Generation and co-founder of the group along with Steyer and his brother Jim Steyer. 
"She's very pragmatic and understands how all of that is knitted together, and not everybody does," James said. 
Gordon presented the Risky Business study idea to him and then to Tom Steyer, who, James said, "got it right away." 
Gordon helped recruit the effort's new Risk Committee, which 
features several well-known names. There are three people from former 
President Clinton's Cabinet: Secretary of Housing and Urban Development 
Henry Cisneros, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, and Secretary of Health and Human Services Donna Shalala. Two Republicans are on board: former 
Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine and Reagan administration Secretary of State George Shultz. Others on the panel are Alfred Sommer of Johns Hopkins 
Bloomberg School of Public Health and Gregory Page, former CEO and 
current chairman of the board of Cargill Inc. 
One of the goals was "bringing in unlikely voices," James said. 
"Kate has really driven that project and has thought through who 
should be involved, how we involve them, how we create a broader 
platform to talk about climate than frankly just sort of the typical 
actors that have been out there," James said. "That's a big part of what Tom wants to accomplish. He knows that we're not going to get there 
unless we bring business along." 
Picking the right messengers 
The idea of quantifying the costs of ignoring climate change isn't 
new, said Daniel J. Weiss, senior fellow and director of climate 
strategy at the Center for American Progress, a think tank that has 
advised the Obama administration. Gordon was a vice president at CAP 
until 2012 and worked with Weiss. 
Kate Gordon enjoys family time, from left to right Gino Segr?, Jacob Segr?, 
Kate Gordon and Julia Segr?. Photo courtesty Gino Segr?.
In fact, Weiss said, he was at a February 2012 meeting with the then-head 
of the White House's Council of Economic Advisers, Alan Krueger, when 
there was talk of doing an analysis like the one from British economist 
Nicholas Stern. Completed for the British government in 2006, the Stern 
Review looked at how warming would affect the global economy. 
The belief voiced at the meeting with Krueger and others, Weiss 
said, was that in the U.S. a similar study would be discredited if it 
came from the Obama administration. 
Gordon understands that it's not just the message that matters in 
politics, he said, but ensuring that it comes from the right messengers. Having Paulson as part of Risky Business is "critical to increasing the credibility," Weiss said. 
Gordon and Next Generation "deserve great credit for making this 
idea into a reality, and recruiting a board/oversight committee of great economic renown who will be forceful, credible and effective 
messengers," Weiss said in an email. 
The Risky Business report, if completed before the 2014 elections, 
"could provide supporters of action on climate change with a very strong shield to argue that inaction on climate change will significantly harm the economy," Weiss said. 
One critic, however, said he doubted that the Risky Business panel 
would be viewed as impartial. Many on it support policies that would 
reduce fossil fuel use, said Thomas Pyle, president of the American 
Energy Alliance, a nonprofit focused on free-market advocacy. He is a 
former Koch Industries lobbyist. 
"I don't see anyone on the list who I would see as rounding out the 
opinions about the need for action on climate change," Pyle said. To be 
truly comprehensive, he added, the report would also need to look at the economic costs of ramping down fossil fuels. 
Pyle also questioned Gordon's assessment that running the study out 
of Steyer's nonprofit is more advantageous than if she had launched it 
when she worked at the Center for American Progress. 
"They're virtually indistinguishable," Pyle said of Steyer and CAP. 
"Clearly, Tom Steyer has made the latter part of his career making this 
issue the focus of his political activity. ... He has been very 
one-sided in terms of his politics in that regard." 
CAP founder John Podesta now is a White House adviser, Pyle said, 
and Steyer "may have a little bit more independence, but he certainly is in lock step with what I would call the harder elements of the left on 
this issue." 
Pyle said he does not know Gordon and was speaking about the Risky Business strategy but not her personally. 
Influencing Obama's first legislation 
Gordon is poised for potential success with Risky Business, but her 
efforts should be seen as part of a push that has spanned generations, a former colleague said. 
"She has put in the time and she has built the base of personal 
relationships and she's positioned herself to be incredibly impactful 
right now in the moment we're in," said Bracken Hendricks, a senior 
fellow at CAP. "It's not that other people failed and now she's going to come along with some special sauce or some secret formula. Rather she's done the work to be in the right place with a very relevant tool set." 
Gordon came to activism after growing up in two economic worlds. 
After her parents divorced, she lived part time with her father, a 
Stanford University law professor, in Palo Alto, Calif., and part with 
her mother, an advocate for low-income seniors and people who were 
homeless in the east side of Madison, Wis. 
After her undergraduate degree, she worked as a tenant organizer in 
San Francisco's Tenderloin district, motivated by "a general sense of 
economic injustice." She went to law school and earned a joint master's 
degree in city planning. Three years later, she took a job at the Center on Wisconsin Strategy, known as COWS, a think tank based at the 
University of Wisconsin, Madison. That introduced her to the energy 
world. 
Joel Rogers, director of COWS, in cooperation with the Washington, 
D.C.-based Institute for America's Future, had just launched the Apollo 
Alliance. That coalition united business, labor, environment and 
community groups that advocated for green energy. 
"He needed someone to start thinking about clean energy as an 
economic development driver, so he threw me at it," Gordon said. "It was a real trial by fire." 
Gordon was at Apollo when the alliance made its push for green jobs. She came at the issue first from an economic versus an environmental 
viewpoint, said Hendricks, a past executive director at Apollo. 
"There are probably a half a dozen people who all deserve a big 
piece of the credit" for advancing green jobs, Hendricks said. "She's 
certainly one of them." 
In 2009 Gordon was co-director at Apollo when the organization published its 10-point "Apollo Economic Recovery Act," which it argued should be part of President Obama's first legislative 
measure. Elements of it were nearly identical to components that later 
appeared in the stimulus package, Gordon said. That led some 
conservatives to assert that Apollo crafted the legislation. 
Radio host Glenn Beck on his Aug. 24, 2009, show said the Apollo 
Alliance "wrote the bill," according to an online transcript on his 
website. He did not cite Gordon by name. 
Asked whether she penned parts of the stimulus bill, Gordon said 
that "there are pieces of that [Apollo plan], in particular around clean energy manufacturing, that you can see in the manufacturing tax credits that were passed." There also were pieces that were in the energy 
efficiency block grants program, she said. 
"Many, many people were involved, but we certainly, I think, had an influence," Gordon added. 
Gordon while detailing her work history commented that she'd had 
good timing, landing in the right spots as key events were underway. 
"I've been lucky in all these transitions," she said. 
Then, as if she'd caught herself, she added that Facebook Chief 
Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg -- who in her book "Lean In" wrote 
about women and business success -- "says I shouldn't say that." 
Asked whether men have gotten credit for her work, Gordon said that 
"a lot of what I do is sort of helping the movement generally." But she 
added that she's long been a woman in environments dominated by men. 
"I work with energy, and I work with labor, and I work on 
manufacturing," she said. "I'm almost always the only woman in the room. When I was a CAP, every single senior member of my team was a man." 
There have been times in her career when she was asked to take notes, she said, because she had "the best handwriting." 
"That kind of thing happens all the time," she said, adding that she wouldn't let it go unnoticed. "You just have to get to a place where 
you call it out for what it is. ... It's certainly been an issue in my 
career, no question." 
Shaping Next Generation's 'voice' 
Gordon met Steyer in 2011 while she was working as vice president in charge of the energy program at CAP. Later that year, Gordon wrote an 
opinion piece for him and CAP founder Podesta that ran in The Wall Street Journal in January 2012, urging the need for investments in clean energy. The 
two were involved in crafting the final version, she said. 
A short time later, Gordon learned that Steyer was looking for a new director for Next Generation and let it be known she'd be interested. 
She was hired and moved there in June 2012, without taking a day off 
between the two jobs. 
Kate Gordon is a key adviser to Tom Steyer, billionaire environmental activist. Photo by Anne C. Mulkern.
A big part of her job at the nonprofit in the first year was preparing 
Steyer for events and guiding him in his advocacy. By default, that has 
made her other work there less noticeable, she said. 
"He has a very important voice in the movement," Gordon said, "but you could certainly argue that it puts me in the background." 
Steyer, in an email, called Gordon "a trusted policy adviser and key member of the Next Generation team." 
"Her guidance and leadership continues to be instrumental to our 
efforts to combat climate change as we work to identify strategies to 
deploy clean, advanced energy technologies," Steyer said. "Her 
leadership in launching Risky Business ... is a key example of Kate's 
drive to seek innovative solutions." 
Among her roles at Next Generation, Gordon said, is communicating 
the group's ideas. Steyer, his brother and James started the group in 
2011 because they believed "that strategic communications voice was 
missing from California," Gordon said. 
"I know how to talk about these issues in a way that speaks to 
people beyond the environmental community," Gordon said. "I'm a good 
translator of policy issues and vision and values to a much broader 
group of people. 
"I'm a big-picture person," she added. "I care a lot about setting an agenda, having a big vision on issues." 
Gordon writes a blog sent to about 4,000 subscribers, a combination 
of Capitol Hill staffers, California Legislature aides, reporters and 
people with advocacy groups. A lot of people read her emailed 
"Cliffnotes," she said. 
"I get approached at parties by people in different sectors who read them," Gordon said. "What people always say is that I have a unique way of telling these issues that isn't just confined to a small insider 
group." 
Burning midnight oil 
At Next Generation, Gordon also advocates on climate on many fronts. She's worked on the implementation of Proposition 39, a 2012 California ballot measure that Steyer largely funded. It changed how multistate 
businesses are taxed over five years and will funnel an estimated $2.75 
billion in new revenues to energy efficiency measures. She helped shape 
legislation governing how the money will be spent and last month was 
named to a citizen's committee that will vet the allocations (Greenwire, Jan. 17). 
In addition, she's now part of a group of advocates conferring on 
ways California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia will move 
forward together on actions to combat climate change. The leaders of 
those states and the Canadian province in October signed an agreement to join efforts. There is hope that the alliance could influence federal 
action (ClimateWire, Oct. 29, 2013). 
Acting as a consultant outside her Next Generation post, she'll also be advising Steyer on strategies as he pushes to increase the 
California tax levied on oil companies for each barrel extracted in the 
state. His political action committee NextGen Climate Action last month 
launched a statewide campaign to advocate for the change. 
Gordon similarly has been working with Steyer on his opposition to 
the Keystone XL pipeline. She consults with his political action 
committee, she said, weighing in with research and background and 
offering advice. 
The myriad goals have Gordon frequently traveling from coast to 
coast and conferring with allies or writing blogs late at night. A 
mother of two young children, she averages about 6? hours of sleep a 
night. 
"I do a lot of work between 9 p.m. and 1 a.m.," Gordon said. 
If Gordon has detractors on these issues, they aren't eager to speak out about her specifically. There are those, however, who questioned 
the wisdom of the choices Steyer and his advisers have made on Keystone 
XL and the California tax push. 
"Mr. Steyer has made his antipathy toward petroleum energy 
well-known," said Tupper Hull, spokesman for trade group Western States 
Petroleum Association. "He is opposed to importing Canada's oil through 
the Keystone XL pipeline, he supports raising taxes on domestic energy 
production in California and he opposes well completion technologies 
like hydraulic fracturing. 
"One has to wonder where Mr. Steyer believes Californians should get their essential gasoline and diesel supplies if he is successful in 
closing off affordable domestic supplies," Hull added. 
Others said Gordon has offered sage advice on a number of energy issues and is effective in securing change. 
"She has background, experience, relationships, credibility, brains 
and a strategic perspective," said Susan Frank, who has worked with 
Gordon on protecting California's climate policies and advancing similar ones in the region. Frank has several posts including director of the 
California Business Alliance for a Green Economy. "All of those things 
together make her a really good person to have in the room when you're 
talking about climate policy." 
In terms of 2014, Frank said, "because Steyer is so engaged in 
elections and is spending money on campaigns and we know Kate is a key 
adviser if not the key adviser, we know she is important to that 
election." 


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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Thu Feb 20 09:38:02 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:38:02 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protest Leon Panetta @ De Anza tonight and tomorrow
	night
Message-ID: <ba1a96fc-cafe-4f34-b64d-11b79a49e001@email.android.com>

The purveyor of murder by drones, Leon Panetta is speaking tonight and tomorrow night, and Students for Justice (with support from the DA Green Party) is the organizer of a protest (last night,) tonight and tomorrow night. It will be in front of the Flint Center from 7P till 10P.

Green is Courage!

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 20 13:54:09 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 13:54:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: BREAKING NEWS: Obama rejects cuts to Social
	Security!
In-Reply-To: <1777880484.1005042155@wfc.wfcDB.mail.democracyinaction.com>
References: <1777880484.1005042155@wfc.wfcDB.mail.democracyinaction.com>
Message-ID: <1392933249.36971.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Pardon the fundraising pitch. The rest of this e-mail is good news!

John Thielking


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Michael Phelan, Social Security Works" <michael.phelan at socialsecurityworks.org>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:25 PM
Subject: BREAKING NEWS: Obama rejects cuts to Social Security!
 


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?
Throughout 2013, Social Security Works members took action and worked with our elected officials to change the narrative in Washington away from cuts to one of Social Security expansion.
?
Now, in 2014, we have momentum on our side. It is time to grow our campaign to expand Social Security!
?
Please donate today to ensure that Social Security expansion is a key component of the 2014 election.

At a time when a majority of Americans support Social Security expansion, we must make expansion part of the conversation in every single congressional race in the country.
?
Thank you for making a difference in the lives of millions of Americans.??Today is an important victory, and?tomorrow?we continue our fight to expand earned benefits!
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Thu Feb 20 16:32:26 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:32:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
In-Reply-To: <1392849688.47128.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1392847031.72219.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1392849688.47128.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8D0FCB387ADCB95-18F8-559C@webmail-m129.sysops.aol.com>


Hi Everyone,

I turned in our final about 50 (each) signatures from De Anza this afternoon. I will call there tomorrow at about 10 am to get our final count, including valid and invalid signatures, and post the results here and report them to Kamran (unless someone else wants to do this, let me know).

My understanding is that we will be given until 5 pm March 7 to collect supplemental signatures to replace any that we submitted that were deemed invalid. The only restriction is that our petitions have to reflect the fact that the supplemental signatures were gathered between Feb. 21 and March 7 (about two weeks).


Sandy



-----Original Message-----
From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; Greens Discussion List <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters




Actually, I'm pretty sure we're over 150.

  
 
 
 
   From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
 To: Greens Discussion List <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:57 PM
 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters
  
 



Pete and I went to the Registrar Of Voters today to turn in signatures for the two P & F Party candidates. The ROV only wanted one person's signature on the forms at the office for turning in signatures, so I suppose that you don't have to personally visit them to turn in the signatures that you collect. 



There is an additional signature collection period that runs from Friday Feb 21, 2014 to March 7, 2014. During that period anyone can collect up to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to Feb 20, 2014 at 5PM.  That is you don't have to limit yourself to only collecting the total number of invalid signatures that you got personally. You can collect more than that if you want and they will all be pooled in one batch with the maximum number restricted to the total number of invalid signatures for each candidate that were turned in prior to the initial Feb 20, 2014 deadline.


When I turned in my signatures for Green Party candidates last week, I got a voicemail from Ashley at 408-282-3044 saying that


Ellen H Brown had 17 valid and 5 invalid signatures


Laura Wells had 14 valid and 5 invalid signatures


David Scott Curtis had 13 valid and 5 invalid signatures


I deleted the voicemail that had the results for Luis Rodriguez before I could record the results so I called Ashley back and left a voicemail asking her to repeat the info for Luis Rodriguez.


That is all for now.


John Thielking



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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Feb 20 21:38:14 2014
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:38:14 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: fred's wife
In-Reply-To: <BAY176-W4669AB10528C84F88635D6A4850@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY176-W4669AB10528C84F88635D6A4850@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5306E646.6010609@aceweb.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	fred's wife
Date: 	Thu, 20 Feb 2014 17:12:45 -0800
From: 	Michael Fischetti
To: 	(sniped Mike's friends emails)



sadly i let you know that fred's wife Lois died last night

services will be saturday march 8th at 1 pm

at the christian science church of mountain view

mike fischetti

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 20 23:47:24 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:47:24 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Living Wage Calculator
In-Reply-To: <53070437.9090609@earthlink.net>
References: <53070437.9090609@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5307048C.7020300@earthlink.net>


This article argues for a Living Wage, and has a "calculator"
by county.

"MIT Living Wage Calculator: Why Higher Wages Help Everybody"
https://alum.mit.edu/pages/sliceofmit/2014/02/06/mit-living-wage-calculator-why-higher-wages-help-everybody/

Gerry





From perrysandy at aol.com  Fri Feb 21 11:02:39 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:02:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental Signature Gathering
Message-ID: <8D0FD4E9FD10F29-1AC4-A011@webmail-d248.sysops.aol.com>


Hi Everyone,

Below is the report I sent to Kamran.

As it says, I estimate we have about 75 invalid signatures for each candidate that we can begin making up NOW by collecting other ones. Just be sure that the start date on the petition forms you use is marked no earlier than Feb. 21.


Sandy

_____________________________________


Hi Kamran,
 
I can't get a final count from the registrar today, they told me it would be available on Monday afternoon. I will forward a complete report when I hear from them.
 
My estimate is that we turned in about 300-350 signatures for each candidate and about 75 each were invalid. We will be trying to make up those 75 between now and March 11 during the supplemental signature period.
 
 
Sandy Perry
San Jose, Santa Clara County
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Feb 21 12:19:27 2014
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 12:19:27 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fred Dupperault's wife Lois
Message-ID: <5307B4CF.4040204@sbcglobal.net>

Fred's wife has died:

sadly i let you know that fred's wife Lois died last night

services will be saturday march 8th at 1 pm

at the christian science church of mountain view

mike fischetti

There are a couple things we should do to acknowledge
our sympathy and Fred's work:  flowers, card, and attend
the services.





From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Fri Feb 21 13:39:25 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:39:25 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental Signature
	Gathering
In-Reply-To: <8D0FD4E9FD10F29-1AC4-A011@webmail-d248.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8D0FD4E9FD10F29-1AC4-A011@webmail-d248.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <5307C78D.9080003@structuremonitoring.com>

If you need extra forms, let me know. I have a few and can print more.  
Spencer 408-655-4567


On 2/21/2014 11:02 AM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Below is the report I sent to Kamran.
> As it says, I estimate we have about 75 invalid signatures for each 
> candidate that we can begin making up NOW by collecting other ones. 
> Just be sure that the start date on the petition forms you use is 
> marked no earlier than Feb. 21.
> Sandy
> _____________________________________
> Hi Kamran,
> I can't get a final count from the registrar today, they told me it 
> would be available on Monday afternoon. I will forward a complete 
> report when I hear from them.
> My estimate is that we turned in about 300-350 signatures for each 
> candidate and about 75 each were invalid. We will be trying to make up 
> those 75 between now and March 11 during the supplemental signature 
> period.
> Sandy Perry
> San Jose, Santa Clara County
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 22 07:55:34 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 07:55:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental
	Signature	Gathering
In-Reply-To: <5307C78D.9080003@structuremonitoring.com>
References: <8D0FD4E9FD10F29-1AC4-A011@webmail-d248.sysops.aol.com>
	<5307C78D.9080003@structuremonitoring.com>
Message-ID: <1393084534.39263.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

As far as I know March 7th is the deadline, not March 11th.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental Signature	Gathering
 


If you need extra forms, let me know.? I have a few and can print more.? Spencer 408-655-4567 



On 2/21/2014 11:02 AM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:

Hi Everyone,
>?
>Below is the report I sent to Kamran.
>?
>As it says, I estimate we have about 75 invalid signatures for each candidate that we can begin making up NOW by collecting other ones. Just be sure that the start date on the petition forms you use is marked no earlier than Feb. 21.
>?
>?
>Sandy
>?
>_____________________________________
>?
>?
>Hi Kamran,
>?
>I can't get a final count from the registrar today, they told me it would be available on Monday afternoon. I will forward a complete report when I hear from them.
>?
>My estimate is that we turned in about 300-350 signatures for each candidate and about 75 each were invalid. We will be trying to make up those 75 between now and March 11 during the supplemental signature period.
>?
>?
>Sandy Perry
>San Jose, Santa Clara County
>
>
>_______________________________________________
sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: www.structuremonitoring.com

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From perrysandy at aol.com  Sat Feb 22 17:29:54 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:29:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental
	Signature	Gathering
In-Reply-To: <1393084534.39263.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <8D0FD4E9FD10F29-1AC4-A011@webmail-d248.sysops.aol.com>
	<5307C78D.9080003@structuremonitoring.com>
	<1393084534.39263.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8D0FE4DE3EE6A57-18A4-110E4@webmail-m269.sysops.aol.com>


You're right, John. The correct deadline for supplemental signatures is March 7. Sorry about the error!


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; perrysandy <perrysandy at aol.com>; sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 7:55 am
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental Signature	Gathering



As far as I know March 7th is the deadline, not March 11th.

John Thielking




  
 
 
 
   From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
 To: perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 1:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Signature Totals and Supplemental Signature	Gathering
  
 


    
If you need extra forms, let me know.       I have a few and can print more.  Spencer 408-655-4567 
      
      

      On 2/21/2014 11:02 AM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
    

    

        
Hi Everyone,
        
 
        
Below is the report I sent to Kamran.
        
 
        
As it says, I estimate we have about 75 invalid signatures          for each candidate that we can begin making up NOW by          collecting other ones. Just be sure that the start date on the          petition forms you use is marked no earlier than Feb. 21.
        
 
        
 
        
Sandy
        
 
        
_____________________________________
        
 
        
 
        
Hi Kamran,
        
 
        
I can't get a final count from the registrar today, they          told me it would be available on Monday afternoon. I will          forward a complete report when I hear from them.
        
 
        
My estimate is that we turned in about 300-350 signatures          for each candidate and about 75 each were invalid. We will be          trying to make up those 75 between now and March 11 during the          supplemental signature period.
        
 
        
 
        
Sandy Perry
        
San Jose, Santa Clara County
            
      
      
      
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



  



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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Feb 22 20:16:02 2014
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:16:02 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
Message-ID: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>

Authorize expenditures for flowers and card for Fred Dupperault.
Authorize reimbursement to Caroline for her expenditures re the Health Fair.


From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Sat Feb 22 21:28:46 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:28:46 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>
References: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <5309870E.8010406@structuremonitoring.com>

       Betsy and I both concur with the expense authorizations.  If John 
Thielking concurs also, we won't need to take time for these next Thursday.


       Thanks for taking care of these things, Jim.


       Spencer


On 2/22/2014 8:16 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Authorize expenditures for flowers and card for Fred Dupperault.
> Authorize reimbursement to Caroline for her expenditures re the Health 
> Fair.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 23 08:35:51 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 08:35:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <5309870E.8010406@structuremonitoring.com>
References: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>
	<5309870E.8010406@structuremonitoring.com>
Message-ID: <1393173351.2018.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I agree with these items.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
 

? ? ?  Betsy and I both concur with the expense authorizations.? If John 
Thielking concurs also, we won't need to take time for these next Thursday.


? ? ?  Thanks for taking care of these things, Jim.


? ? ?  Spencer


On 2/22/2014 8:16 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Authorize expenditures for flowers and card for Fred Dupperault.
> Authorize reimbursement to Caroline for her expenditures re the Health 
> Fair.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:? 408-655-4567
web:? www.structuremonitoring.com


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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Feb 23 17:17:54 2014
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 20:17:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Agenda Item -- Host a plenary?
Message-ID: <93c2f.10de43ee.403bf7c2@aol.com>

The day after our last GPSCC meeting I received an email from  Sanda 
Everette (apparently also sent to other GPSCC activists) inquiring whether  Santa 
Clara County Greens might serve as a Plenary host.  I wrote back  that we 
had held our monthly meeting the night previous, but that I would  request the 
item be put on the agenda for our next meeting.  Based on the  SGA 
situation, I have no personal energies for this.   Warner 
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From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Sun Feb 23 23:55:39 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:55:39 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <1393173351.2018.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>
	<5309870E.8010406@structuremonitoring.com>
	<1393173351.2018.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ce6bc90d-d6dc-4dcf-99dc-69e10efadb55@email.android.com>

Thank you for taking care of this.

Drew

John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:
>I agree with these items.
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>To: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; sosfbay discussion group
><sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
> 
>
>? ? ?  Betsy and I both concur with the expense authorizations.? If
>John 
>Thielking concurs also, we won't need to take time for these next
>Thursday.
>
>
>? ? ?  Thanks for taking care of these things, Jim.
>
>
>? ? ?  Spencer
>
>
>On 2/22/2014 8:16 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
>> Authorize expenditures for flowers and card for Fred Dupperault.
>> Authorize reimbursement to Caroline for her expenditures re the
>Health 
>> Fair.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>
>-- 
>Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
>President and Chief Technology Officer
>Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
>751 Emerson Ct.
>San Jos?, CA 95126
>ph:? 408-655-4567
>web:? www.structuremonitoring.com
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Feb 23 23:57:45 2014
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 23:57:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
Message-ID: <1393228665.37314.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Who is doing the agenda? I have seen lots of things saying "agenda item", but I haven't seen anybody saying they were making it. It better not be me, because I'm not going to be at the meeting.
Caroline
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Mon Feb 24 08:12:41 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:12:41 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <ce6bc90d-d6dc-4dcf-99dc-69e10efadb55@email.android.com>
References: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>
	<5309870E.8010406@structuremonitoring.com>
	<1393173351.2018.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<ce6bc90d-d6dc-4dcf-99dc-69e10efadb55@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <530B6F79.8000602@structuremonitoring.com>

Hello, All:


       The co-sponsorship with Dream Menders for showing "Inequality for 
All" March 30 will likely expand to co-sponsoring with Dream Menders, 
the San Jos? Peace & Justice Center and Common Cause for showing 
"Inequality for All" March 21 and 30 (a Friday and a Sunday).  I will 
assume that the County Council concurs with this unless I hear otherwise.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


On 2/23/2014 11:55 PM, Drew wrote:
> Thank you for taking care of this.
>
> Drew
>
> John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>     I agree with these items.
>
>     John Thielking
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>     *To:* Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; sosfbay discussion
>     group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:28 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
>
>           Betsy and I both concur with the expense authorizations.  If
>     John
>     Thielking concurs also, we won't need to take time for these next
>     Thursday.
>
>
>           Thanks for taking care of these things, Jim.
>
>
>           Spencer
>
>
>     On 2/22/2014 8:16 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
>     > Authorize expenditures for flowers and card for Fred Dupperault.
>     > Authorize reimbursement to Caroline for her expenditures re the
>     Health
>     > Fair.
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>     > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>     sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>

-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 24 10:11:12 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:11:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <530B6F79.8000602@structuremonitoring.com>
References: <53097602.3030407@sbcglobal.net>
	<5309870E.8010406@structuremonitoring.com>
	<1393173351.2018.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<ce6bc90d-d6dc-4dcf-99dc-69e10efadb55@email.android.com>
	<530B6F79.8000602@structuremonitoring.com>
Message-ID: <1393265472.14280.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

That's all fine with me.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: Drew <rainbeaufriend at riseup.net>; John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
 


Hello, All:? 


????? The co-sponsorship with Dream Menders for showing
      "Inequality for All" March 30 will likely expand to co-sponsoring
      with Dream Menders, the San Jos? Peace & Justice Center and
      Common Cause for showing "Inequality for All" March 21 and 30 (a
      Friday and a Sunday).? I will assume that the County Council
      concurs with this unless I hear otherwise.? 


????? Best Wishes, 
????? Spencer 


On 2/23/2014 11:55 PM, Drew wrote:

Thank you for taking care of this.
>
>Drew
>
>
>John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>I agree with these items.
>>
>>John Thielking
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>>To: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>>Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
>> 
>>
>>? ? ? Betsy and I both concur with the expense
                  authorizations.? If John 
>>Thielking concurs also, we won't need to take time for
                  these next Thursday.
>>
>>
>>? ? ? Thanks for taking care of these things, Jim.
>>
>>
>>? ? ? Spencer
>>
>>
>>On 2/22/2014 8:16 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
>>> Authorize expenditures for flowers and card for
                  Fred Dupperault.
>>> Authorize reimbursement to Caroline for her
                  expenditures re the Health 
>>> Fair.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web: www.structuremonitoring.com 
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Mon Feb 24 10:23:45 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:23:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
Message-ID: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>


Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!


Sandy




Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014

 

7:00-7:30  NancyNeff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.

 

7:30   Meetingstarts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, andAgenda Preparer for February.

 

7:40 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda

 

7:55  Treasurer'sreport and hat passing

         POBox report: Andrea

 

8:05  Discuss thefollowing proposal sent to the Discuss list:

 

I also believe we shouldconsider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party insmall local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at DeAnza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the CountyCouncil in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthlymembership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward newmembers and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadlypublicized.

 

8:40  Evaluate ourcandidate signature campaign and lessons learned.

 

8:55  Report onsingle payer health care work. Sandy

 

9:05  Report on climate change work.

  

9:15  Whether ornot to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.

 

9:25Adjourn

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 24 18:48:48 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:48:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
In-Reply-To: <1393296441.31545.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1393296441.31545.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1393296528.43117.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>




----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "John.Avalos at sfgov.org" <John.Avalos at sfgov.org>; "David.Campos at sfgov.org" <David.Campos at sfgov.org>; "Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org" <Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org>; "Jane.Kim at sfgov.org" <Jane.Kim at sfgov.org>; "Katy.Tang at sfgov.org" <Katy.Tang at sfgov.org>; "Norman.Yee at sfgov.org" <Norman.Yee at sfgov.org>; "London.Breed at sfgov.org" <London.Breed at sfgov.org>; "David.Chiu at sfgov.org" <David.Chiu at sfgov.org>; "Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org" <Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org>; "Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org" <Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org>; "Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org" <Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:47 PM
Subject: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
 


While I appreciate the efforts of SF city govt to rein in pollution and excessive production carbon footprints associated with bottled water by promoting a ban of bottled water under 22 oz on city property, I must object for the following reason:

Often people from out of town who are on the street at a festival conducted on city property such as the Gay Pride Festival may not be able to find a store not on city property that can sell bottled water. At the last gay Pride Parade event there was a small store located near the event that I could have gone to, but in the real world there is no guarantee that that one small store would not run out of bottled water. The vendors on the street are much better suited to supply large crowds with the amount of bottled water that is needed for the event. That particular day was quite hot and going without bottled water would have been quite dangerous. Other events, such as those conducted at Dolores Park, are not near stores that I am familiar with. Please reconsider your campaign to ban the sale of smaller bottles of bottled water on city property. Thank you.

Sincerely,

John Thielking
San Jose, CA
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 24 18:53:32 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:53:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
In-Reply-To: <1393296790.11504.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1393296441.31545.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<1393296790.11504.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1393296812.90029.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>




----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "John.Avalos at sfgov.org" <John.Avalos at sfgov.org>; "David.Campos at sfgov.org" <David.Campos at sfgov.org>; "Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org" <Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org>; "Jane.Kim at sfgov.org" <Jane.Kim at sfgov.org>; "Katy.Tang at sfgov.org" <Katy.Tang at sfgov.org>; "Norman.Yee at sfgov.org" <Norman.Yee at sfgov.org>; "London.Breed at sfgov.org" <London.Breed at sfgov.org>; "David.Chiu at sfgov.org" <David.Chiu at sfgov.org>; "Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org" <Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org>; "Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org" <Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org>; "Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org" <Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
 


Another reason to vote the ban down is that the ban does nothing to discourage the sale of soft drinks in plastic bottles. Consuming soft drinks instead of water on a hot day further complicates the problems caused by dehydration on hot days as it is not recommended to consume sugary drinks in place of plain water when dealing with dehydration.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "John.Avalos at sfgov.org" <John.Avalos at sfgov.org>; "David.Campos at sfgov.org" <David.Campos at sfgov.org>; "Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org" <Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org>; "Jane.Kim at sfgov.org" <Jane.Kim at sfgov.org>; "Katy.Tang at sfgov.org" <Katy.Tang at sfgov.org>; "Norman.Yee at sfgov.org" <Norman.Yee at sfgov.org>; "London.Breed at sfgov.org" <London.Breed at sfgov.org>; "David.Chiu at sfgov.org" <David.Chiu at sfgov.org>; "Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org" <Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org>; "Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org" <Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org>; "Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org" <Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:47 PM
Subject: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
 


While I appreciate the efforts of SF city govt to rein in pollution and excessive production carbon footprints associated with bottled water by promoting a ban of bottled water under 22 oz on city property, I must object for the following reason:

Often people from out of town who are on the street at a festival conducted on city property such as the Gay Pride Festival may not be able to find a store not on city property that can sell bottled water. At the last gay Pride Parade event there was a small store located near the event that I could have gone to, but in the real world there is no guarantee that that one small store would not run out of bottled water. The vendors on the street are much better suited to supply large crowds with the amount of bottled water that is needed for the event. That particular day was quite hot and going without bottled water would have been quite dangerous. Other events, such as those conducted at Dolores Park, are not near stores that I am familiar with. Please reconsider your campaign to ban the sale of smaller bottles of bottled water on city property. Thank you.

Sincerely,

John Thielking
San Jose, CA
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 24 19:58:04 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 19:58:04 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW:  I'm Dreaming of a Green Apple
In-Reply-To: <BAY177-W7277636D04F214D32E75F9ED80@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY177-W7277636D04F214D32E75F9ED80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W51D52AFE6848B6A769A22B9E810@phx.gbl>

Further to the Green (modular) Apple concept.

A couple of years ago I bought an old computer monitor at Wierdstuff for $30 that cost $2000 
when it was new ten years ago.  It quit on me recently, and I didn't have time to fuss with it, so 
I wanted to buy a new high-res (1080p) monitor.  I spent   several hours driving around 
comparison-shopping and finding that local OfficeMax retail outlets did not actually stock the 
monitors they offered online.  The Staples monitor I bought came with a whole lot of 
styrofoam packing  material, not to mention the cardboard.

When I went to the e-waste recycler I was careful to include the unique power supply and the 
unique DVI cable associated with the monitor, in case the recycler might be able to repair the 
product or pass the power and cable on.

The plastic part of the monitor was still just as good as ever, but here I was recycling because I was 
too lazy to try to repair the power circuits.

Modularity in monitors would mean this:

1.  The display element of the monitor would be packaged as a tablet unit with standardized input
ports.  Monitor units would be available from many manufacturers with standard interface ports,
at many different  levels of quality.

2.  The monitor stand would be a separate unit that may or may not include accessories such as audio
speakers, USB ports, video ports, or what have you.  There would be plastic units, aluminum units, and 
handcrafted walnut (furniture) units from a wide variety of manufacturers--and all of them would work
with the standardized connections between the monitor stand and the monitor itself.

3.  Retailers of monitor tablet units would be required to accept turned-in obsolete or broken units for 
trade-in, and required to offer aftermarket rebuilt monitor units along with their brand-new units. 

4.  Standardization would provide great opportunities for entrepreneurs to deliver faster-better-cheaper
modules to the marketplace.















   
















From: snug.bug at hotmail.com
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:45:38 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] I'm Dreaming of a Green Apple











Announcing the Green Apple!  Sustainable, upgradable, and backward software 
compatible, the Green Apple will also be non-toxic, recyclable, and biodegradable.

Unit Sustainability:  
*   Modular construction allows users to trade in old CPU, I/0, and video modules 
and upgrade to the latest and greatest
*  backward compatibility of software and hardware upgrades means users' expensive
applications are never orphaned
*  Modular construction allows repair by substitution of used parts  

Bio-Friendliness and Recyclability:
*  Minimal use of toxic elements
*  Bio-degradable plastic
*  Trade-in modules can be re-used instead of trashed
*  Components have standard interfaces so dead Apples can donate screens, keypads, 
and I/O modules to Raspberry hacks

When can you get one?  NEVER--not as long as you keep buying Toxic Apples designed
for disposability and obsolescence.









 		 	   		  

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 24 21:17:34 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:17:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW:  I'm Dreaming of a Green Apple
In-Reply-To: <BAY177-W51D52AFE6848B6A769A22B9E810@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY177-W7277636D04F214D32E75F9ED80@phx.gbl>
	<BAY177-W51D52AFE6848B6A769A22B9E810@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1393305454.4755.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

It sure would be nice if all products had a standard design and user interface. That way when Yahoo.com mail screws up three times in 2 weeks and I decide to dump them, I'm not stuck with the inferior user interface of gmail.? In these cases, design patents and copyrights are counterproductive.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:58 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW:  I'm Dreaming of a Green Apple
 


Further to the Green (modular) Apple concept.

A couple of years ago I bought an old computer monitor at Wierdstuff for $30 that cost $2000 
when it was new ten years ago.? It quit on me recently, and I didn't have time to fuss with it, so 
I wanted to buy a new high-res (1080p) monitor.? I spent?  several hours driving around 
comparison-shopping and finding that local OfficeMax retail outlets did not actually stock the 
monitors they offered online.? The Staples monitor I bought came with a whole lot of 
styrofoam packing? material, not to mention the cardboard.

When I went to the e-waste recycler I was careful to include the unique power supply and the 
unique DVI cable associated with the monitor, in case the recycler might be able to repair the 
product or pass the power and cable on.

The plastic part of the monitor was still just as good as ever, but here I was recycling because I was 
too lazy to try to repair the power circuits.

Modularity in monitors would mean this:

1.? The display element of the monitor would be packaged as a tablet unit with standardized input
ports.? Monitor units would be available from many manufacturers with standard interface ports,
at many different? levels of quality.

2.? The monitor stand would be a separate unit that may or may not include accessories such as audio
speakers, USB ports, video ports, or what have you.? There would be plastic units, aluminum units, and 
handcrafted walnut (furniture) units from a wide variety of manufacturers--and all of them would work
with the standardized connections between the monitor stand and the monitor itself.

3.? Retailers of monitor tablet units would be required to accept turned-in obsolete or broken units for 
trade-in, and required to offer aftermarket rebuilt monitor units along with their brand-new units. 

4.? Standardization would provide great opportunities for entrepreneurs to deliver faster-better-cheaper
modules to the marketplace.















?? 


















________________________________
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:45:38 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] I'm Dreaming of a Green Apple


 

Announcing the Green Apple!? Sustainable, upgradable, and backward software 
compatible, the Green Apple will also be non-toxic, recyclable, and biodegradable.

Unit Sustainability:? 
*?? Modular construction allows users to trade in old CPU, I/0, and video modules 
and upgrade to the latest and greatest
*? backward compatibility of software and hardware upgrades means users' expensive
applications are never orphaned
*? Modular construction allows repair by substitution of used parts? 

Bio-Friendliness and Recyclability:
*? Minimal use of toxic elements
*? Bio-degradable plastic
*? Trade-in modules can be re-used instead of trashed
*? Components have standard interfaces so dead Apples can donate screens, keypads, 
and I/O modules to Raspberry hacks

When can you get one?? NEVER--not as long as you keep buying Toxic Apples designed
for disposability and obsolescence.








_______________________________________________
sosfbay-discuss mailing list
sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 25 10:07:34 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:07:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
In-Reply-To: <1393351350.92328.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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This is an open letter to the San Francisco Board Of Supervisors concerning the bottled water ban discussed at the Feb 24, 2014 meeting of the Land Use And Economic Development Committee. The committee may vote on March 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM on the question of sending a yes vote recommendation to the full Board Of Supervisors.


John Thielking


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To: "John.Avalos at sfgov.org" <John.Avalos at sfgov.org>; "David.Campos at sfgov.org" <David.Campos at sfgov.org>; "Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org" <Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org>; "Jane.Kim at sfgov.org" <Jane.Kim at sfgov.org>; "Katy.Tang at sfgov.org" <Katy.Tang at sfgov.org>; "Norman.Yee at sfgov.org" <Norman.Yee at sfgov.org>; "London.Breed at sfgov.org" <London.Breed at sfgov.org>; "David.Chiu at sfgov.org" <David.Chiu at sfgov.org>; "Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org" <Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org>; "Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org" <Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org>; "Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org" <Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
 


Published as an open letter at:
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/02/24/18751509.php

Actual Agenda Mentions That Ban Would Also Increase Availability Of Drinking Water 
by John ThielkingTuesday Feb 25th, 2014 9:28 AM  
At http://www.sfbos.org/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=48019 the agenda for the Feb 24, 2014 meeting mentions "set City policy to 
increase the availability of drinking water in public areas", so as long as the city actually comes through with funding to install additional 
drinking fountains in food deserts such as Dolores Park I may be able to live with the terms of the new ordinance.


________________________________
 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "John.Avalos at sfgov.org" <John.Avalos at sfgov.org>; "David.Campos at sfgov.org" <David.Campos at sfgov.org>; "Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org" <Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org>; "Jane.Kim at sfgov.org" <Jane.Kim at sfgov.org>; "Katy.Tang at sfgov.org" <Katy.Tang at sfgov.org>; "Norman.Yee at sfgov.org" <Norman.Yee at sfgov.org>; "London.Breed at sfgov.org" <London.Breed at sfgov.org>; "David.Chiu at sfgov.org" <David.Chiu at sfgov.org>; "Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org" <Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org>; "Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org" <Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org>; "Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org" <Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
 


Another reason to vote the ban down is that the ban does nothing to discourage the sale of soft drinks in plastic bottles. Consuming soft drinks instead of water on a hot day further complicates the problems caused by dehydration on hot days as it is not recommended to consume sugary drinks in place of plain water when dealing with dehydration.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "John.Avalos at sfgov.org" <John.Avalos at sfgov.org>; "David.Campos at sfgov.org" <David.Campos at sfgov.org>; "Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org" <Malia.Cohen at sfgov.org>; "Jane.Kim at sfgov.org" <Jane.Kim at sfgov.org>; "Katy.Tang at sfgov.org" <Katy.Tang at sfgov.org>; "Norman.Yee at sfgov.org" <Norman.Yee at sfgov.org>; "London.Breed at sfgov.org" <London.Breed at sfgov.org>; "David.Chiu at sfgov.org" <David.Chiu at sfgov.org>; "Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org" <Mark.Farrell at sfgov.org>; "Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org" <Eric.L.Mar at sfgov.org>; "Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org" <Scott.Wiener at sfgov.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:47 PM
Subject: Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban
 


While I appreciate the efforts of SF city govt to rein in pollution and excessive production carbon footprints associated with bottled water by promoting a ban of bottled water under 22 oz on city property, I must object for the following reason:

Often people from out of town who are on the street at a festival conducted on city property such as the Gay Pride Festival may not be able to find a store not on city property that can sell bottled water. At the last gay Pride Parade event there was a small store located near the event that I could have gone to, but in the real world there is no guarantee that that one small store would not run out of bottled water. The vendors on the street are much better suited to supply large crowds with the amount of bottled water that is needed for the event. That particular day was quite hot and going without bottled water would have been quite dangerous. Other events, such as those conducted at Dolores Park, are not near stores that I am familiar with. Please reconsider your campaign to ban the sale of smaller bottles of bottled water on city property. Thank you.

Sincerely,

John Thielking
San Jose, CA
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Feb 25 21:37:51 2014
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:37:51 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Government program to Manipulate, Deceive,
 and Destroy Reputations of political opponents
Message-ID: <530D7DAF.1060707@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


       The US Army recently attempted to recruit a group of anti-war 
protesters and push them to become violent to discredit the antiwar 
movement.  Those allegations were made by Glenn Crespo and his attorney 
Larry Hildes in a lawsuit filed against the US Army, according to a 
segment on, "Inside the Army Spy Ring & Attempted Entrapment of Peace 
Activists, Iraq Vets, Anarchists" in Democracy Now for February 25, 2014 
(http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/25/exclusive_inside_the_army_spy_ring).


       This is only one example of they type of activities pursued by 
the "Five Eyes" intelligence collaboration between the five major 
anglophone countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United 
Kingdom, an the United States.  This is documented in an article on "How 
Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and 
Destroy Reputations" by Glenn Greenwald, Feb. 24, 2014, in 
"firstslook.org" 
(https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes).


       I believe this calls for political action to dramatically 
restrict the ability of the government to keep secrets, as outlined in 
my blog on "Restrict government secrecy not data collection" at 
"http://sanjosepeace.wordpress.com".


       Be well and be outraged.
       Spencer


p.s.  You may know that "firstlook.org" is a new Internet news 
organization founded by eBay billionaire, Pierre Omidyar, with 
collaborators like Jeremy Scahill, author of "Dirty Wars", and Glenn 
Greenwald, author of numerous stories about the US government activities 
based on information from Ed Snowden.


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 25 23:05:13 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:05:13 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Government program to Manipulate, Deceive,
 and Destroy Reputations of political opponents
In-Reply-To: <530D7DAF.1060707@prodsyse.com>
References: <530D7DAF.1060707@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <530D9229.4040301@earthlink.net>


Related items:

"Western Spy Agencies Infiltrating, Warping World of Online Activism"
"Latest Snowden documents show extent to which GCHQ has gone to 
'manipulate, deceive, and destroy reputations' of online targets"
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/02/25-0

"4 Darknesses: Internet being Manipulated, Deceived by Western Intel Trolls"
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/02/25-1

Gerry


Spencer Graves wrote:
> Hello, All:
>
>
>        The US Army recently attempted to recruit a group of anti-war
> protesters and push them to become violent to discredit the antiwar
> movement.  Those allegations were made by Glenn Crespo and his attorney
> Larry Hildes in a lawsuit filed against the US Army, according to a
> segment on, "Inside the Army Spy Ring & Attempted Entrapment of Peace
> Activists, Iraq Vets, Anarchists" in Democracy Now for February 25, 2014
> (http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/25/exclusive_inside_the_army_spy_ring).
>
>
>        This is only one example of they type of activities pursued by
> the "Five Eyes" intelligence collaboration between the five major
> anglophone countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United
> Kingdom, an the United States.  This is documented in an article on "How
> Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and
> Destroy Reputations" by Glenn Greenwald, Feb. 24, 2014, in
> "firstslook.org"
> (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation and
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes).
>
>
>        I believe this calls for political action to dramatically
> restrict the ability of the government to keep secrets, as outlined in
> my blog on "Restrict government secrecy not data collection" at
> "http://sanjosepeace.wordpress.com".
>
>
>        Be well and be outraged.
>        Spencer
>
>
> p.s.  You may know that "firstlook.org" is a new Internet news
> organization founded by eBay billionaire, Pierre Omidyar, with
> collaborators like Jeremy Scahill, author of "Dirty Wars", and Glenn
> Greenwald, author of numerous stories about the US government activities
> based on information from Ed Snowden.
>
>


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 25 23:25:20 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:25:20 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The left is in sad shape?
Message-ID: <530D96E0.4080102@earthlink.net>


Common Dreams has an article about the status of the left:
"Liberals Face a Hard Day?s Knight?"
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/02/25-7

"In his Harper?s piece, Reed argues that Democrats and
liberals have become too fixated on election results,
kowtowing to the status quo rather than aiming for long
term goals that address the issues of economic inequality."

...


It's mostly about an article in the March Harper's,
?Nothing Left: The Long, Slow Surrender of American Liberals.?.
The first few sentences can be found at
http://harpers.org/archive/2014/03/nothing-left-2/
To get more requires getting a year's subscription.
I'll go read it at the library.

The quotes below are alleged, by Common Dreams, to be in the
Harper's article.

"the left operates with no learning curve and is therefore
always vulnerable to the new enthusiasm. It long ago lost
the ability to move forward under its own steam?"

"The crucial tasks for a committed left in the United States now are to 
admit that no politically effective force exists and to begin trying to 
create one"

Gerry


From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net  Wed Feb 26 05:09:23 2014
From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:09:23 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Government program to Manipulate, Deceive,
	and Destroy Reputations of political opponents
In-Reply-To: <530D9229.4040301@earthlink.net>
References: <530D7DAF.1060707@prodsyse.com> <530D9229.4040301@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <56422582-40cf-4761-b453-558baefea810@email.android.com>

Also it came out that De Anza/Foothill Police got access to SfJ's "private" Google Doc for the planning of the Leon Panetta action last week and were freaking out over one suggestion to have folks lay on the ground to symbolize the innocent dead civilians killed by U.S. drone attacks (an action sometimes called a "die in"). They overreacted and had extra police watching the protestors and even cordoned off them on Friday night (maybe thinking of the big 2005 protest against Colin Powell that SfJ led, but this was nothing like that so it came off a very heavy handed). Btw the action was covered in La Voz this week.

So do NOT trust Google/gmail Yahoo, AOL/Time Warner, AT&T/SBCglobal.net, Hotmail/Microsoft with your emails and communications. Turn to privacy rights advocates such as RiseUp.Net, Mega, and AnchorFree instead.

Green is human rights!

Dru

Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Related items:
>
>"Western Spy Agencies Infiltrating, Warping World of Online Activism"
>"Latest Snowden documents show extent to which GCHQ has gone to 
>'manipulate, deceive, and destroy reputations' of online targets"
>http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/02/25-0
>
>"4 Darknesses: Internet being Manipulated, Deceived by Western Intel
>Trolls"
>http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/02/25-1
>
>Gerry
>
>
>Spencer Graves wrote:
>> Hello, All:
>>
>>
>>        The US Army recently attempted to recruit a group of anti-war
>> protesters and push them to become violent to discredit the antiwar
>> movement.  Those allegations were made by Glenn Crespo and his
>attorney
>> Larry Hildes in a lawsuit filed against the US Army, according to a
>> segment on, "Inside the Army Spy Ring & Attempted Entrapment of Peace
>> Activists, Iraq Vets, Anarchists" in Democracy Now for February 25,
>2014
>>
>(http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/25/exclusive_inside_the_army_spy_ring).
>>
>>
>>        This is only one example of they type of activities pursued by
>> the "Five Eyes" intelligence collaboration between the five major
>> anglophone countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United
>> Kingdom, an the United States.  This is documented in an article on
>"How
>> Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and
>> Destroy Reputations" by Glenn Greenwald, Feb. 24, 2014, in
>> "firstslook.org"
>> (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation and
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes).
>>
>>
>>        I believe this calls for political action to dramatically
>> restrict the ability of the government to keep secrets, as outlined
>in
>> my blog on "Restrict government secrecy not data collection" at
>> "http://sanjosepeace.wordpress.com".
>>
>>
>>        Be well and be outraged.
>>        Spencer
>>
>>
>> p.s.  You may know that "firstlook.org" is a new Internet news
>> organization founded by eBay billionaire, Pierre Omidyar, with
>> collaborators like Jeremy Scahill, author of "Dirty Wars", and Glenn
>> Greenwald, author of numerous stories about the US government
>activities
>> based on information from Ed Snowden.
>>
>>
>_______________________________________________
>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 06:55:27 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 06:55:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook Still Allows Guns For Sale Postings
Message-ID: <1393426527.81294.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Dear Friend,
>
>
>Teenagers are buying guns on Facebook, and the company is refusing to make one simple rule that would keep our kids safe.
>Reports have emerged that a 
15 year-old boy in Kentucky bought a 9mm handgun through a dealer 
advertising on Facebook, and took the gun to his high school's 
homecoming game. 
>
>
>
>Thankfully, no one was hurt -- but things could have 
gone very differently.
>
>
>Google Plus, Craiglist, and 
eBay have all banned gun ads, but Facebook doesn't stop users from 
advertising private gun sales. 
>
>
>
>Please sign the petition calling on 
Facebook to do its part to protect our kids: http://action.sumofus.org/a/instaguns/?sub=taf 
SumOfUs is a worldwide movement of people like you, working together to 
hold corporations accountable for their actions and forge a new, 
sustainable path for our global economy. 

Please help keep SumOfUs strong by chipping in $3.

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 10:24:26 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (pagesincolor at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:24:26 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] John wants you to take action on "Colorado: Pardon
	Those Convicted on Outdated Pot Laws!"!
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 26 10:32:17 2014
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:32:17 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The left is in sad shape?
In-Reply-To: <530D96E0.4080102@earthlink.net>
References: <530D96E0.4080102@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY177-W10C9E4DE31855F5398DB5C9E800@phx.gbl>

The left was effectively assassinated with Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy in 1968.
It just took a few years of hemorrhage before it went into the coma it's in today.



> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:25:20 -0800
> From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The left is in sad shape?
> 
> 
> Common Dreams has an article about the status of the left:
> "Liberals Face a Hard Day?s Knight?"
> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/02/25-7
> 
> "In his Harper?s piece, Reed argues that Democrats and
> liberals have become too fixated on election results,
> kowtowing to the status quo rather than aiming for long
> term goals that address the issues of economic inequality."
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> It's mostly about an article in the March Harper's,
> ?Nothing Left: The Long, Slow Surrender of American Liberals.?.
> The first few sentences can be found at
> http://harpers.org/archive/2014/03/nothing-left-2/
> To get more requires getting a year's subscription.
> I'll go read it at the library.
> 
> The quotes below are alleged, by Common Dreams, to be in the
> Harper's article.
> 
> "the left operates with no learning curve and is therefore
> always vulnerable to the new enthusiasm. It long ago lost
> the ability to move forward under its own steam?"
> 
> "The crucial tasks for a committed left in the United States now are to 
> admit that no politically effective force exists and to begin trying to 
> create one"
> 
> Gerry
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 26 13:04:33 2014
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:04:33 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC web pages
Message-ID: <530E56E1.5060501@earthlink.net>


FYI,

I just did a search for "Green Party of Santa Clara
County", in response to a telemarketer call about
google placement ...

Anyways, as you may or may not know, in addition to
the main webpage:
http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara/

there is this page:
http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_clara

which is out of date.  For example, one "news" item is
"Brouillet Kicks Off Congressional Campaign" from
April, 2012.

Gerry


From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 16:34:53 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:34:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: New coal in California? What century is this?
In-Reply-To: <1331001395.1393447754417.JavaMail.www@app219.cl2int.convio.net>
References: <1331001395.1393447754417.JavaMail.www@app219.cl2int.convio.net>
Message-ID: <1393461293.68123.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>




----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Evan Gillespie, Sierra Club" <sierra at sierraclub.org>
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:03 PM
Subject: New coal in California? What century is this?
 


Sierra Club 
 

 
Dear John,
Don't let a dirty coal plant get built in California!
Tell the CEC to turn down this dirty proposal.
 
California has made great strides to wean itself off dirty coal. 
Last year, Los Angeles announced it would be coal free. Other utilities are going coal free, too, and California is on pace to eliminate coal entirely over the next ten years. The efforts to ditch coal have ramifications for the country: as California goes, so goes the nation. 
Now, all that progress to move California beyond coal is at risk, as the California Energy Commission considers building a new coal power plant outside Bakersfield, a region with some of the dirtiest air in the country. 
Email the California Energy Commission (CEC) now and urge them to reject this dangerous proposal. 
This new coal plant would bring in coal from a strip mine in New Mexico by diesel train to Kern County. The coal would be trucked to the plant (300 trucks per day!) where it would be turned into gas to power the plant. The project would use unproven, risky technology to attempt to capture 90% of the CO2 and inject it into the ground in a neighboring oil field, helping push out the remaining oil from the depleted field (you have to love the irony of capturing carbon just so we can burn more). 
Even if the project only emits 10% of the CO2 produced, the project is so massive and coal-intensive, it would be one of the 60 largest sources of carbon pollution in the state! 
Tell the CEC that dirty coal has no place in California?s energy mix! 
The coal industry is bending over backwards to call this a clean project, but the truth is anything but. The project would increase the dangerous pollutants that cause asthma, emphysema, and even heart attacks in a region that already can?t come close to meeting the standards of the Clean Air Act. 
The project has issues beyond just dirty air. It will suck up 2.4 billion gallons of water each year, using water that would otherwise be used by local farmers. 
You can stop it. You can keep dirty coal out of California. Contact the CEC today. 
Thanks for all you do to protect the environment,

Evan Gillespie
My Generation Campaign
Sierra Club

P.S. After you take action, be sure to forward this alert to your friends and colleagues!  


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 19:50:40 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:50:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 99% of new power in Jan 2014 came from renewables
Message-ID: <1393473040.13368.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

99% of electric generation capacity that was added in the US in January 2014 was from renewables:

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/02/21/3317221/99-percent-power-renewable-2/#
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 20:34:49 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:34:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
	and one agenda item
In-Reply-To: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <1393475689.93662.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.? Does anyone else have a more recent update?

Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for Judge for Santa Clara Valley.? He had a good experience with her and believes that she sticks up for the little people.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
 


Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
?
?
Sandy
?
?
?
Green Party Meeting? Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
?
7:00-7:30? Nancy
Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
?
7:30?? Meeting
starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, and
Agenda Preparer for February.
?
7:40?
Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
?
7:55? Treasurer's
report and hat passing
?????????PO
Box report: Andrea
?
8:05? Discuss the
following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
?
I also believe we should
consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in
small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De
Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County
Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly
membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new
members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly
publicized.
?
8:40? Evaluate our
candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
?
8:55? Report on
single payer health care work. Sandy
?
9:05? Report on climate change work.
? 
9:15? Whether or
not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
?
9:25
Adjourn
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 20:37:49 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:37:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
	and one agenda item
In-Reply-To: <1393475689.93662.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>
	<1393475689.93662.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1393475869.89268.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

DR is an agenda item that Pete wants to talk about at the meeting on Thursday.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
To: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:34 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,	and one agenda item
 


As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.? Does anyone else have a more recent update?

Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for Judge for Santa Clara Valley.? He had a good experience with her and believes that she sticks up for the little people.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
 


Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
?
?
Sandy
?
?
?
Green Party Meeting? Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
?
7:00-7:30? Nancy
Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
?
7:30?? Meeting
starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, and
Agenda Preparer for February.
?
7:40?
Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
?
7:55? Treasurer's
report and hat passing
?????????PO
Box report: Andrea
?
8:05? Discuss the
following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
?
I also believe we should
consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in
small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De
Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County
Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly
membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new
members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly
publicized.
?
8:40? Evaluate our
candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
?
8:55? Report on
single payer health care work. Sandy
?
9:05? Report on climate change work.
? 
9:15? Whether or
not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
?
9:25
Adjourn
_______________________________________________
sosfbay-discuss mailing list
sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss



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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Wed Feb 26 21:05:48 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:05:48 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
 and one agenda item
In-Reply-To: <1393475689.93662.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>
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       Have you seen what the Mercury wrote about Diane Ritchie from 
Feb. 1, 2014 
(www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources)? 
"In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a 
tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, she 
publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft 
charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... She ... 
invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him out to lunch".


       She may "stick up for the little people", but she needs to watch 
courtroom protocol:  With the landlord-tenant dispute, if a translator 
was needed and was not available, I think she should have ordered a 
continuance so one could be located.  Her failure to do so suggests bias 
in favor of the landlord.  With the former client accused of petty 
theft, she should have recused herself.


       If this report is accurate, Ritchie's behavior raises serious 
questions about her impartiality and ability to rule based on the law -- 
and her ability to serve responsibly as a judge.


       Spencer


On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green 
> Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.  
> Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>
> Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for 
> Judge for Santa Clara Valley.  He had a good experience with her and 
> believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>
> John Thielking
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>
> Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
> Sandy
> *Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014*
> 7:00-7:30 Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak 
> on SB 27 and SB 52.
> 7:30 Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, 
> Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
> 7:40 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
> 7:55 Treasurer's report and hat passing
>          PO Box report: Andrea
> 8:05 Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and 
> broadly publicized.
> 8:40 Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
> 8:55 Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
> 9:05Report on climate change work.
> 9:15 Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary -- Warner.
> 9:25 Adjourn
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>
>
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-- 
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Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 26 22:14:16 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:14:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
	and one agenda item
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References: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>
	<1393475689.93662.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Spencer,

Both Pete and I have read that Mercury News article. However, you shouldn't be so ready to believe everything you read in the Mercury News. As you are so fond of pointing out, we need citizen journalists in place of what passes for the mainstream media. Also, what do you know about courtroom procedures? Thanks.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
 




????? Have you seen what the Mercury wrote about Diane Ritchie
      from Feb. 1, 2014
      (www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources)?? "In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... She ... invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him out to lunch".? 


????? She may "stick up for the little people", but she needs to
      watch courtroom protocol:? With the landlord-tenant dispute, if a
      translator was needed and was not available, I think she should
      have ordered a continuance so one could be located.? Her failure
      to do so suggests bias in favor of the landlord.? With the former
      client accused of petty theft, she should have recused herself.? 


????? If this report is accurate, Ritchie's behavior raises
      serious questions about her impartiality and ability to rule based
      on the law -- and her ability to serve responsibly as a judge.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:

As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.? Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>
>Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie
        for Judge for Santa Clara Valley.? He had a good experience with
        her and believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
> 
>
>
>Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>?
>?
>Sandy
>?
>?
>?
>Green Party Meeting? Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
>?
>7:00-7:30? Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
>?
>7:30?? Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>?
>7:40?
Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>?
>7:55? Treasurer's report and hat passing
>?????????PO
Box report: Andrea
>?
>8:05? Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>?
>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>?
>8:40? Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>?
>8:55? Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>?
>9:05? Report on climate change work.
>? 
>9:15? Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
>?
>9:25 Adjourn
>_______________________________________________
>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>
>
>
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-- 
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Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Wed Feb 26 22:43:55 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 01:43:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FINAL FEB 20 RESULTS - SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN
Message-ID: <8D1019E6B721D9E-22C8-7DBF@webmail-va021.sysops.aol.com>


The registrar finally called today with the final tally of signatures submitted in Santa Clara County by Feb. 20.
 
Rodriguez Total 331, Valid 279, Invalid 52.
 
Brown Total 330, Valid 273, Invalid 57.
 
Wells Total 341, Valid 273, Invalid 68.
 
Curtis Total 326, Valid 267, Invalid 59.
 
We are working on getting supplemental signatures for those that were invalid, to be turned in by March 7. I have about 13-14 of each so far, but we will need help to get enough to replace the invalid ones. We only have nine more days.

 
 
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Feb 26 22:54:42 2014
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:54:42 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
 and one agenda item
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Message-ID: <530EE132.3090508@aceweb.com>

We should do a certificate of appreciation or something like that for 
Fred and Lois Duperault while Fred is still around to enjoy it.

Tian

On 02/26/2014 08:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green 
> Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.  
> Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>
> Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for 
> Judge for Santa Clara Valley.  He had a good experience with her and 
> believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>
> John Thielking
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>
> Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
> Sandy
> *Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014*
> 7:00-7:30  Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak 
> on SB 27 and SB 52.
> 7:30   Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes 
> Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
> 7:40  Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
> 7:55  Treasurer's report and hat passing
>          PO Box report: Andrea
> 8:05  Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and 
> broadly publicized.
> 8:40  Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
> 8:55  Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
> 9:05Report on climate change work.
> 9:15  Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary -- Warner.
> 9:25 Adjourn
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added pictures from SJBP's Dead Presidents ride.
There's a dog angel on a Pennsylvania quarter in my home.

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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Thu Feb 27 03:57:33 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 03:57:33 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
 and one agenda item
In-Reply-To: <530EE132.3090508@aceweb.com>
References: <8D0FFA4B0411DCF-1FCC-1C1C1@webmail-d166.sysops.aol.com>	<1393475689.93662.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<530EE132.3090508@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <530F282D.7050309@structuremonitoring.com>

Hi, Tian:


       Might it be feasible for you to produce a draft and bring it to 
the meeting tonight and all attendees can sign it?


       Thanks,
       Spencer


On 2/26/2014 10:54 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> We should do a certificate of appreciation or something like that for 
> Fred and Lois Duperault while Fred is still around to enjoy it.
>
> Tian
>
> On 02/26/2014 08:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:
>> As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green 
>> Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate 
>> Pete.  Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>>
>> Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for 
>> Judge for Santa Clara Valley.  He had a good experience with her and 
>> believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>>
>> John Thielking
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
>> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>>
>> Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>> Sandy
>> *Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014*
>> 7:00-7:30 Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak 
>> on SB 27 and SB 52.
>> 7:30 Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, 
>> Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>> 7:40 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>> 7:55 Treasurer's report and hat passing
>>          PO Box report: Andrea
>> 8:05 Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
>> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
>> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
>> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
>> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
>> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
>> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, 
>> and broadly publicized.
>> 8:40 Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>> 8:55 Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>> 9:05Report on climate change work.
>> 9:15 Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary -- Warner.
>> 9:25 Adjourn
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added pictures from SJBP's Dead Presidents ride.
> There's a dog angel on a Pennsylvania quarter in my home.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Thu Feb 27 09:50:37 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:50:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The left is in sad shape?
In-Reply-To: <BAY177-W10C9E4DE31855F5398DB5C9E800@phx.gbl>
References: <530D96E0.4080102@earthlink.net>
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While I agree with Reed's scathing critique of the strategy by some on the left of relying on the Democratic Party, I disagree with his hand-wringing and general doom-and-gloom. How is that going to help recruit people to our cause? We have a shining vision, dedicated activists, and solutions to the problems people face in everyday life - so let's get busy creating the future!


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] The left is in sad shape?



The left was effectively assassinated with Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy in 1968.
It just took a few years of hemorrhage before it went into the coma it's in today.




> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:25:20 -0800
> From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The left is in sad shape?
> 
> 
> Common Dreams has an article about the status of the left:
> "Liberals Face a Hard Day?s Knight?"
> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/02/25-7
> 
> "In his Harper?s piece, Reed argues that Democrats and
> liberals have become too fixated on election results,
> kowtowing to the status quo rather than aiming for long
> term goals that address the issues of economic inequality."
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> It's mostly about an article in the March Harper's,
> ?Nothing Left: The Long, Slow Surrender of American Liberals.?.
> The first few sentences can be found at
> http://harpers.org/archive/2014/03/nothing-left-2/
> To get more requires getting a year's subscription.
> I'll go read it at the library.
> 
> The quotes below are alleged, by Common Dreams, to be in the
> Harper's article.
> 
> "the left operates with no learning curve and is therefore
> always vulnerable to the new enthusiasm. It long ago lost
> the ability to move forward under its own steam?"
> 
> "The crucial tasks for a committed left in the United States now are to 
> admit that no politically effective force exists and to begin trying to 
> create one"
> 
> Gerry
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 27 10:24:32 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 10:24:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar
	Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
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I sent an e-mail to Ed Frey (an attorney in Santa Cruz) asking him about Diane Ritchie, no response yet. I called my Legal Shield attorneys and I don't have standing to ask my questions of them. So I looked up Just Answer/legal on the Internet and this is what they had to say:


My Questions: 

There is a Judge up for re-election
in Santa Clara County, CA. It was alleged by a local newspaper that
she did two things that may be inappropriate: 1) She allowed a
landlord to act as an ESL translator for a tenant in a
landlord-tenant dispute and 2) She asked a defendant out on a date
(most likely after court proceedings were finished). Are either one
of these items grounds to be concerned either legally or ethically
about her objectivity and other performances as a Judge?
Optional Information: 
Country relating to Question: United
States
State (if USA): California
What have you tried so far?:
I don't have standing to ask these questions of my attorneys in my
Legal Shield plan. An Internet search returns nothing.
You have received an Answer!
From Dimitry
K., Esq.
Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:38 PM EST
Thank you for your question. Please permit me to assist you with
your concerns.


To answer directly, the first issue is potentially a non-issue if
there were other native speakers in the courtroom and they did not
object to the translation. While each party should have their own
translator, the obligation to get one is on that party and not the
judge. Hence, asking someone within the courts to translate, while
irregular, is not a violation.


The second claim is a bit more serious. Provided the case was
wholly over, which means no further motions could be filed (such a a
motion for reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both
parties are effectively civilians. A judge cannot show favoritism and
if he 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be
questionable. While ethically it is not a violation, it does appear
to be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where there really
was none. So that, from a political perspective, may be trouble.


Hope that helps.


Edited by Dimitry K., Esq. on
2/27/2014 at 12:38 PM EST 

Sincerely, 

Dimitry, Esq. 



So the question for us as the Green Party Of Santa Clara County is are we going to act like every other Democratic and Republican org out there and worry that a female judge asking a male defendant out for coffee (a gay defendant by the way) after the case is over is going to blow up into a big sex scandal like Anthony Weiner, or are we going to be a bit more circumspect and objective and endorse a judge for re-election even though she appears to be human?

John Thielking



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Spencer,

Both Pete and I have read that Mercury News article. However, you shouldn't be so ready to believe everything you read in the Mercury News. As you are so fond of pointing out, we need citizen journalists in place of what passes for the mainstream media. Also, what do you know about courtroom procedures? Thanks.

John Thielking




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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
 




????? Have you seen what the Mercury wrote about Diane Ritchie
      from Feb. 1, 2014
      (www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources)?? "In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... She ... invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him out to lunch".? 


????? She may "stick up for the little people", but she needs to
      watch courtroom protocol:? With the landlord-tenant dispute, if a
      translator was needed and was not available, I think she should
      have ordered a continuance so one could be located.? Her failure
      to do so suggests bias in favor of the landlord.? With the former
      client accused of petty theft, she should have recused herself.? 


????? If this report is accurate, Ritchie's behavior raises
      serious questions about her impartiality and ability to rule based
      on the law -- and her ability to serve responsibly as a judge.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:

As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.? Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>
>Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie
        for Judge for Santa Clara Valley.? He had a good experience with
        her and believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
> 
>
>
>Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>?
>?
>Sandy
>?
>?
>?
>Green Party Meeting? Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
>?
>7:00-7:30? Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
>?
>7:30?? Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>?
>7:40?
Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>?
>7:55? Treasurer's report and hat passing
>?????????PO
Box report: Andrea
>?
>8:05? Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>?
>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>?
>8:40? Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>?
>8:55? Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>?
>9:05? Report on climate change work.
>? 
>9:15? Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
>?
>9:25 Adjourn
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Thu Feb 27 11:25:47 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:25:47 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar
 Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
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Hi, John, et al.:


       What do you know about others who have filed to run against Judge 
Ritchie this year?  If anyone else has filed, I think we should look 
hard at their records and what they say they would do on the bench 
before endorsing Ritchie.


       Also, have you considered posting a link to the Mercury story 
about Ritchie to "Just Answer/legal" and asking for comments?


       Dimitry K., Esq.,  wrote, "A judge cannot show favoritism and if 
he 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be 
questionable."  Dimitry also wrote, "Provided the case was wholly over, 
which means no further motions could be filed (such a a motion for 
reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both parties are 
effectively civilians. ... While ethically it is not a violation, it 
does appear to be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where there 
really was none."  However, the Merc was clear that the case was NOT over.


       Unless the Merc's story can be discredited, I would strongly 
oppose endorsing Ritchie at this time unless her opposition was clearly 
worse.


       Spencer


On 2/27/2014 10:24 AM, John Thielking wrote:
> I sent an e-mail to Ed Frey (an attorney in Santa Cruz) asking him 
> about Diane Ritchie, no response yet. I called my Legal Shield 
> attorneys and I don't have standing to ask my questions of them. So I 
> looked up Just Answer/legal on the Internet and this is what they had 
> to say:
>
> My Questions:
> There is a Judge up for re-election in Santa Clara County, CA. It was 
> alleged by a local newspaper that she did two things that may be 
> inappropriate: 1) She allowed a landlord to act as an ESL translator 
> for a tenant in a landlord-tenant dispute and 2) She asked a defendant 
> out on a date (most likely after court proceedings were finished). Are 
> either one of these items grounds to be concerned either legally or 
> ethically about her objectivity and other performances as a Judge?
> Optional Information:
> Country relating to Question: United States
> State (if USA): California
> What have you tried so far?: I don't have standing to ask these 
> questions of my attorneys in my Legal Shield plan. An Internet search 
> returns nothing.
>
>
>     You have received an Answer!
>
> From Dimitry K., Esq. <http://www.justanswer.com/law/expert-dimitry-esq/>
> Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:38 PM EST
> Thank you for your question. Please permit me to assist you with your 
> concerns.
>
>
> To answer directly, the first issue is potentially a non-issue if 
> there were other native speakers in the courtroom and they did not 
> object to the translation. While each party should have their own 
> translator, the obligation to get one is on that party and not the 
> judge. Hence, asking someone within the courts to translate, while 
> irregular, is not a violation.
>
>
> The second claim is a bit more serious. Provided the case was wholly 
> over, which means no further motions could be filed (such a a motion 
> for reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both parties 
> are effectively civilians. A judge cannot show favoritism and if he 
> 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be 
> questionable. While ethically it is not a violation, it does appear to 
> be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where there really was 
> none. So that, from a political perspective, may be trouble.
>
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> Edited by Dimitry K., Esq. on 2/27/2014 at 12:38 PM EST
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Dimitry, Esq.
>
>
> So the question for us as the Green Party Of Santa Clara County is are 
> we going to act like every other Democratic and Republican org out 
> there and worry that a female judge asking a male defendant out for 
> coffee (a gay defendant by the way) after the case is over is going to 
> blow up into a big sex scandal like Anthony Weiner, or are we going to 
> be a bit more circumspect and objective and endorse a judge for 
> re-election even though she appears to be human?
>
> John Thielking
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; 
> "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; 
> "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting 
> Signatures, and one agenda item
>
> Spencer,
>
> Both Pete and I have read that Mercury News article. However, you 
> shouldn't be so ready to believe everything you read in the Mercury 
> News. As you are so fond of pointing out, we need citizen journalists 
> in place of what passes for the mainstream media. Also, what do you 
> know about courtroom procedures? Thanks.
>
> John Thielking
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
> *To:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" 
> <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" 
> <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting 
> Signatures, and one agenda item
>
>
>
>       Have you seen what the Mercury wrote about Diane Ritchie from 
> Feb. 1, 2014 
> (www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources 
> <http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources>)? 
> "In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a 
> tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, 
> she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft 
> charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... She ... 
> invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him out to 
> lunch".
>
>
>       She may "stick up for the little people", but she needs to watch 
> courtroom protocol:  With the landlord-tenant dispute, if a translator 
> was needed and was not available, I think she should have ordered a 
> continuance so one could be located. Her failure to do so suggests 
> bias in favor of the landlord.  With the former client accused of 
> petty theft, she should have recused herself.
>
>
>       If this report is accurate, Ritchie's behavior raises serious 
> questions about her impartiality and ability to rule based on the law 
> -- and her ability to serve responsibly as a judge.
>
>
>       Spencer
>
>
> On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:
>> As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green 
>> Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate 
>> Pete.  Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>>
>> Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for 
>> Judge for Santa Clara Valley.  He had a good experience with her and 
>> believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>>
>> John Thielking
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* "perrysandy at aol.com" <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com> 
>> <perrysandy at aol.com> <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com>
>> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>>
>> Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>> Sandy
>> *Green Party Meeting Thursday, Feb 27, 2014*
>> 7:00-7:30  Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak 
>> on SB 27 and SB 52.
>> 7:30   Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes 
>> Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>> 7:40 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>> 7:55  Treasurer's report and hat passing
>>          PO Box report: Andrea
>> 8:05  Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
>> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
>> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
>> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
>> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
>> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
>> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, 
>> and broadly publicized.
>> 8:40  Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>> 8:55  Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>> 9:05Report on climate change work.
>> 9:15  Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
>> 9:25 Adjourn
>>
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>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


-- 
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 27 12:46:35 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:46:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar
	Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
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Spencer,

I don't know much about the other candidates. What I do know is this: The article you reference was dated 2/1/14 and makes no mention of any other candidates. Clearly the Mercury News at that point was "trolling" stirring up trouble and begging the community to come up with other candidates. Also, the wording of the article concerning the judge asking for the defendant's phone number is completely ambiguous "she publicly asked a former 
client appearing before her on petty theft charges for his phone number 
so they could meet socially." This public asking could have happened anywhere at any time inside or outside the court before or after the case was heard.? It is simply not clear. 
Why the Mercury News repeats this stuff over and over in every article that Pete has read is beyond me. Is it possible they simply don't like this judge?

John Thielking



________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat]Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,	and one agenda item
 


Hi, John, et al.:? 


????? What do you know about others who have filed to run against
      Judge Ritchie this year?? If anyone else has filed, I think we
      should look hard at their records and what they say they would do
      on the bench before endorsing Ritchie.? 


????? Also, have you considered posting a link to the Mercury
      story about Ritchie to "Just Answer/legal" and asking for
      comments?? 


????? Dimitry K., Esq.,? wrote, "A judge cannot show favoritism
      and if he 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case
      may be questionable."? Dimitry also wrote, "Provided the case was
      wholly over, which means no further motions could be filed (such a
      a motion for reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and
      both parties are effectively civilians. ... While ethically it is
      not a violation, it does appear to be unethical--there is a tinge
      of impropriety where there really was none."? However, the Merc
      was clear that the case was NOT over.? 


????? Unless the Merc's story can be discredited, I would strongly
      oppose endorsing Ritchie at this time unless her opposition was
      clearly worse.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/27/2014 10:24 AM, John Thielking wrote:

I sent an e-mail to Ed Frey (an attorney in Santa Cruz) asking him about Diane Ritchie, no response yet. I called my Legal Shield attorneys and I don't have standing to ask my questions of them. So I looked up Just Answer/legal on the Internet and this is what they had to say:
>
>
>My Questions: 
>
>There is a Judge up for re-election in Santa Clara County, CA. It was alleged by a local newspaper that she did two things that may be inappropriate: 1) She allowed a landlord to act as an ESL translator for a tenant in a landlord-tenant dispute and 2) She asked a defendant out on a date (most likely after court proceedings were finished). Are either one of these items grounds to be concerned either legally or ethically about her objectivity and other performances as a Judge?
>Optional Information: 
>Country relating to Question: United
          States
>State (if USA): California
>What have you tried so far?:
          I don't have standing to ask these questions of my attorneys
          in my
          Legal Shield plan. An Internet search returns nothing.
>You have received an Answer!
>From Dimitry K., Esq.
>Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:38 PM EST
>Thank you for your question. Please permit me to assist you with your concerns.
>
>
>
>To answer directly, the first issue is potentially a non-issue if there were other native speakers in the courtroom and they did not object to the translation. While each party should have their own translator, the obligation to get one is on that party and not the judge. Hence, asking someone within the courts to translate, while irregular, is not a violation.
>
>
>
>The second claim is a bit more serious. Provided the case was wholly over, which means no further motions could be filed (such a a motion for reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both parties are effectively civilians. A judge cannot show favoritism and if he 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be questionable. While ethically it is not a violation, it does appear to be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where there really was none. So that, from a political perspective, may be trouble.
>
>
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>
>Edited by Dimitry K., Esq. on
          2/27/2014 at 12:38 PM EST 
>
>
>Sincerely, 
>
>Dimitry, Esq. 
>
>
>
>So the question for us as the Green Party Of Santa Clara County is are we going to act like every other Democratic and Republican org out there and worry that a female judge asking a male defendant out for coffee (a gay defendant by the way) after the case is over is going to blow up into a big sex scandal like Anthony Weiner, or are we going to be a bit more circumspect and objective and endorse a judge for re-election even though she appears to be human?
>
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
> 
>
>
>Spencer,
>
>Both Pete and I have read that Mercury News article.
                    However, you shouldn't be so ready to believe
                    everything you read in the Mercury News. As you are
                    so fond of pointing out, we need citizen journalists
                    in place of what passes for the mainstream media.
                    Also, what do you know about courtroom procedures?
                    Thanks.
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
> 
>
>
>
>
>????? Have you seen what the Mercury
                                wrote about Diane Ritchie from Feb. 1,
                                2014 (www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources)?? "In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... She ... invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him out to lunch".? 
>
>
>????? She may "stick up for the little
                                people", but she needs to watch
                                courtroom protocol:? With the
                                landlord-tenant dispute, if a translator
                                was needed and was not available, I
                                think she should have ordered a
                                continuance so one could be located.?
                                Her failure to do so suggests bias in
                                favor of the landlord.? With the former
                                client accused of petty theft, she
                                should have recused herself.? 
>
>
>????? If this report is accurate,
                                Ritchie's behavior raises serious
                                questions about her impartiality and
                                ability to rule based on the law -- and
                                her ability to serve responsibly as a
                                judge.? 
>
>
>????? Spencer 
>
>
>On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John Thielking
                                wrote:
>
>As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.? Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>>
>>Also, Pete wants to talk about
                                  possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for
                                  Judge for Santa Clara Valley.? He had
                                  a good experience with her and
                                  believes that she sticks up for the
                                  little people.
>>
>>John Thielking
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
>>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>>Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>> 
>>
>>
>>Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>>?
>>?
>>Sandy
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>Green Party Meeting? Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
>>?
>>7:00-7:30? Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
>>?
>>7:30?? Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>>?
>>7:40? Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>>?
>>7:55? Treasurer's report and hat passing
>>?????????PO Box report: Andrea
>>?
>>8:05? Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>>?
>>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>>?
>>8:40? Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>>?
>>8:55? Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>>?
>>9:05? Report on climate change work.
>>? 
>>9:15? Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
>>?
>>9:25 Adjourn
>>_______________________________________________
>>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>


-- 
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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Thu Feb 27 15:26:56 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:26:56 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar
 Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
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Hi, John:


       I would oppose the Green Party of Santa Clara County taking a 
position on Ritchie without first consulting several attorneys for their 
views on her and on the Merc story / stories about her.


       We could start by consulting Warner.


       If Warner thinks she's fine or that he doesn't have enough 
information to judge, we could also ask Carpenter, Mayfield and Lake 
plus possibly a couple of attorneys I know from working with De-Bug.  If 
they felt Ritchie was possibly being maligned inappropriately AND were 
willing to work on an op-ed rebuttal of the Merc's article(s) on her, I 
think we should offer to help them with any research they felt would be 
appropriate before they completed such an article.  If the Merc refused 
to publish what they write, it could be published in indybay.org and 
possibly also Wikinews.  I've published with both those outlets before, 
and I could help there if we had a team of attorneys who agreed that 
Ritchie has been inappropriately attacked.


       Spencer


On 2/27/2014 12:46 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> Spencer,
>
> I don't know much about the other candidates. What I do know is this: 
> The article you reference was dated 2/1/14 and makes no mention of any 
> other candidates. Clearly the Mercury News at that point was 
> "trolling" stirring up trouble and begging the community to come up 
> with other candidates. Also, the wording of the article concerning the 
> judge asking for the defendant's phone number is completely ambiguous 
> "she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty 
> theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially." This 
> public asking could have happened anywhere at any time inside or 
> outside the court before or after the case was heard.  It is simply 
> not clear.
> Why the Mercury News repeats this stuff over and over in every article 
> that Pete has read is beyond me. Is it possible they simply don't like 
> this judge?
>
> John Thielking
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
> *To:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" 
> <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" 
> <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat]Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was 
> Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
>
> Hi, John, et al.:
>
>
>       What do you know about others who have filed to run against 
> Judge Ritchie this year?  If anyone else has filed, I think we should 
> look hard at their records and what they say they would do on the 
> bench before endorsing Ritchie.
>
>
>       Also, have you considered posting a link to the Mercury story 
> about Ritchie to "Just Answer/legal" and asking for comments?
>
>
>       Dimitry K., Esq.,  wrote, "A judge cannot show favoritism and if 
> he 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be 
> questionable." Dimitry also wrote, "Provided the case was wholly over, 
> which means no further motions could be filed (such a a motion for 
> reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both parties are 
> effectively civilians. ... While ethically it is not a violation, it 
> does appear to be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where 
> there really was none."  However, the Merc was clear that the case was 
> NOT over.
>
>
>       Unless the Merc's story can be discredited, I would strongly 
> oppose endorsing Ritchie at this time unless her opposition was 
> clearly worse.
>
>
>       Spencer
>
>
> On 2/27/2014 10:24 AM, John Thielking wrote:
>> I sent an e-mail to Ed Frey (an attorney in Santa Cruz) asking him 
>> about Diane Ritchie, no response yet. I called my Legal Shield 
>> attorneys and I don't have standing to ask my questions of them. So I 
>> looked up Just Answer/legal on the Internet and this is what they had 
>> to say:
>>
>> My Questions:
>> There is a Judge up for re-election in Santa Clara County, CA. It was 
>> alleged by a local newspaper that she did two things that may be 
>> inappropriate: 1) She allowed a landlord to act as an ESL translator 
>> for a tenant in a landlord-tenant dispute and 2) She asked a 
>> defendant out on a date (most likely after court proceedings were 
>> finished). Are either one of these items grounds to be concerned 
>> either legally or ethically about her objectivity and other 
>> performances as a Judge?
>> Optional Information:
>> Country relating to Question: United States
>> State (if USA): California
>> What have you tried so far?: I don't have standing to ask these 
>> questions of my attorneys in my Legal Shield plan. An Internet search 
>> returns nothing.
>>
>>
>>     You have received an Answer!
>>
>> From Dimitry K., Esq. <http://www.justanswer.com/law/expert-dimitry-esq/>
>> Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:38 PM EST
>> Thank you for your question. Please permit me to assist you with your 
>> concerns.
>>
>>
>> To answer directly, the first issue is potentially a non-issue if 
>> there were other native speakers in the courtroom and they did not 
>> object to the translation. While each party should have their own 
>> translator, the obligation to get one is on that party and not the 
>> judge. Hence, asking someone within the courts to translate, while 
>> irregular, is not a violation.
>>
>>
>> The second claim is a bit more serious. Provided the case was wholly 
>> over, which means no further motions could be filed (such a a motion 
>> for reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both parties 
>> are effectively civilians. A judge cannot show favoritism and if he 
>> 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be 
>> questionable. While ethically it is not a violation, it does appear 
>> to be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where there really 
>> was none. So that, from a political perspective, may be trouble.
>>
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>
>> Edited by Dimitry K., Esq. on 2/27/2014 at 12:38 PM EST
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dimitry, Esq.
>>
>>
>> So the question for us as the Green Party Of Santa Clara County is 
>> are we going to act like every other Democratic and Republican org 
>> out there and worry that a female judge asking a male defendant out 
>> for coffee (a gay defendant by the way) after the case is over is 
>> going to blow up into a big sex scandal like Anthony Weiner, or are 
>> we going to be a bit more circumspect and objective and endorse a 
>> judge for re-election even though she appears to be human?
>>
>> John Thielking
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
>> <mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com> 
>> <mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" 
>> <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com> <perrysandy at aol.com> 
>> <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" 
>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:14 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting 
>> Signatures, and one agenda item
>>
>> Spencer,
>>
>> Both Pete and I have read that Mercury News article. However, you 
>> shouldn't be so ready to believe everything you read in the Mercury 
>> News. As you are so fond of pointing out, we need citizen journalists 
>> in place of what passes for the mainstream media. Also, what do you 
>> know about courtroom procedures? Thanks.
>>
>> John Thielking
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com> 
>> <mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>> *To:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> 
>> <mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" 
>> <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com> <perrysandy at aol.com> 
>> <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" 
>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:05 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting 
>> Signatures, and one agenda item
>>
>>
>>
>>       Have you seen what the Mercury wrote about Diane Ritchie from 
>> Feb. 1, 2014 
>> (www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources 
>> <http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources>)? 
>> "In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a 
>> tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, 
>> she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty 
>> theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... 
>> She ... invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him 
>> out to lunch".
>>
>>
>>       She may "stick up for the little people", but she needs to 
>> watch courtroom protocol:  With the landlord-tenant dispute, if a 
>> translator was needed and was not available, I think she should have 
>> ordered a continuance so one could be located.  Her failure to do so 
>> suggests bias in favor of the landlord. With the former client 
>> accused of petty theft, she should have recused herself.
>>
>>
>>       If this report is accurate, Ritchie's behavior raises serious 
>> questions about her impartiality and ability to rule based on the law 
>> -- and her ability to serve responsibly as a judge.
>>
>>
>>       Spencer
>>
>>
>> On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John Thielking wrote:
>>> As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green 
>>> Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate 
>>> Pete.  Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>>>
>>> Also, Pete wants to talk about possibly endorsing Diane Ritchie for 
>>> Judge for Santa Clara Valley. He had a good experience with her and 
>>> believes that she sticks up for the little people.
>>>
>>> John Thielking
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* "perrysandy at aol.com" <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com> 
>>> <perrysandy at aol.com> <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com>
>>> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>>> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>>>
>>> Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>>> Sandy
>>> *Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014*
>>> 7:00-7:30  Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will 
>>> speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
>>> 7:30   Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes 
>>> Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>>> 7:40  Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>>> 7:55  Treasurer's report and hat passing
>>>          PO Box report: Andrea
>>> 8:05  Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>>> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
>>> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
>>> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the 
>>> main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council 
>>> in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly 
>>> membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared 
>>> toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or 
>>> actions, and broadly publicized.
>>> 8:40  Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>>> 8:55  Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>>> 9:05Report on climate change work.
>>> 9:15  Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
>>> 9:25 Adjourn
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>

-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Thu Feb 27 15:51:29 2014
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:51:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar
	Of Voters S...
Message-ID: <9e280.47787bfa.40412981@aol.com>

February 27, 2014
 
I have previously written and spoken my opinions about GPSCC  endorsements. 
 I don't think we should be endorsing local candidates unless  they request 
it and give us the courtesy of attending a meeting or at least  sending 
someone from their campaign.
 
I don't really thing the GPSCC needs to be endorsing judicial  candidates.  
If GPSCC members want to get into evaluating candidates, I  suggest we 
follow past practice of delegating 
a committee to put together an information comparison  of  candidate 
positions with a comment of either reccomended, 
not recommended, or no recommendation.
 
Warner
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2014 3:29:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com writes:


I would oppose the Green Party  of Santa Clara County taking a position on 
Ritchie without first consulting  several attorneys for their views on her 
and on the Merc story / stories about  her.  


We could start by  consulting Warner.  

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 27 16:16:27 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:16:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Warner? Do you have a Legal Opinion About DR's
	Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,
	and one agenda item
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Thank you for being open minded Spencer. Warner, do you have an opinion on this? Thanks.

John Thielking




________________________________
 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat]Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures,	and one agenda item
 


Hi, John:? 


????? I would oppose the Green Party of Santa Clara County taking
      a position on Ritchie without first consulting several attorneys
      for their views on her and on the Merc story / stories about her.? 


????? We could start by consulting Warner.? 


????? If Warner thinks she's fine or that he doesn't have enough
      information to judge, we could also ask Carpenter, Mayfield and
      Lake plus possibly a couple of attorneys I know from working with
      De-Bug.? If they felt Ritchie was possibly being maligned
      inappropriately AND were willing to work on an op-ed rebuttal of
      the Merc's article(s) on her, I think we should offer to help them
      with any research they felt would be appropriate before they
      completed such an article.? If the Merc refused to publish what
      they write, it could be published in indybay.org and possibly also
      Wikinews.? I've published with both those outlets before, and I
      could help there if we had a team of attorneys who agreed that
      Ritchie has been inappropriately attacked.? 


????? Spencer 


On 2/27/2014 12:46 PM, John Thielking wrote:

Spencer,
>
>I don't know much about the other candidates. What I do know is
        this: The article you reference was dated 2/1/14 and makes no
        mention of any other candidates. Clearly the Mercury News at
        that point was "trolling" stirring up trouble and begging the
        community to come up with other candidates. Also, the wording of
        the article concerning the judge asking for the defendant's
        phone number is completely ambiguous "she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially." This public asking could have happened anywhere at any time inside or outside the court before or after the case was heard.? It is simply not clear.  
>Why the Mercury News repeats this stuff over and over in every article that Pete has read is beyond me. Is it possible they simply don't like this judge?
>
>
>John Thielking
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat]Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
> 
>
>
>Hi, John, et al.:? 
>
>
>????? What do you know about others who have filed
                    to run against Judge Ritchie this year?? If anyone
                    else has filed, I think we should look hard at their
                    records and what they say they would do on the bench
                    before endorsing Ritchie.? 
>
>
>????? Also, have you considered posting a link to
                    the Mercury story about Ritchie to "Just
                    Answer/legal" and asking for comments?? 
>
>
>????? Dimitry K., Esq.,? wrote, "A judge cannot show
                    favoritism and if he 'liked' this person, the
                    decision for that whole case may be questionable."?
                    Dimitry also wrote, "Provided the case was wholly
                    over, which means no further motions could be filed
                    (such a a motion for reconsideration and so forth),
                    the case is over, and both parties are effectively
                    civilians. ... While ethically it is not a
                    violation, it does appear to be unethical--there is
                    a tinge of impropriety where there really was
                    none."? However, the Merc was clear that the case
                    was NOT over.? 
>
>
>????? Unless the Merc's story can be discredited, I
                    would strongly oppose endorsing Ritchie at this time
                    unless her opposition was clearly worse.? 
>
>
>????? Spencer 
>
>
>On 2/27/2014 10:24 AM, John Thielking wrote:
>
>I sent an e-mail to Ed Frey (an attorney in Santa Cruz) asking him about Diane Ritchie, no response yet. I called my Legal Shield attorneys and I don't have standing to ask my questions of them. So I looked up Just Answer/legal on the Internet and this is what they had to say:
>>
>>
>>My Questions: 
>>
>>There is a Judge up for re-election in Santa Clara County, CA. It was alleged by a local newspaper that she did two things that may be inappropriate: 1) She allowed a landlord to act as an ESL translator for a tenant in a landlord-tenant dispute and 2) She asked a defendant out on a date (most likely after court proceedings were finished). Are either one of these items grounds to be concerned either legally or ethically about her objectivity and other performances as a Judge?
>>Optional Information: 
>>Country relating to Question: United States
>>State (if USA): California
>>What have you tried so far?: I don't have
                        standing to ask these questions of my attorneys
                        in my Legal Shield plan. An Internet search
                        returns nothing.
>>You have received an Answer!
>>From Dimitry K., Esq.
>>Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:38 PM EST
>>Thank you for your question. Please permit me to assist you with your concerns.
>>
>>
>>
>>To answer directly, the first issue is potentially a non-issue if there were other native speakers in the courtroom and they did not object to the translation. While each party should have their own translator, the obligation to get one is on that party and not the judge. Hence, asking someone within the courts to translate, while irregular, is not a violation.
>>
>>
>>
>>The second claim is a bit more serious. Provided the case was wholly over, which means no further motions could be filed (such a a motion for reconsideration and so forth), the case is over, and both parties are effectively civilians. A judge cannot show favoritism and if he 'liked' this person, the decision for that whole case may be questionable. While ethically it is not a violation, it does appear to be unethical--there is a tinge of impropriety where there really was none. So that, from a political perspective, may be trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hope that helps.
>>
>>
>>Edited by Dimitry K., Esq. on 2/27/2014 at 12:38
                        PM EST 
>>
>>
>>Sincerely, 
>>
>>Dimitry, Esq. 
>>
>>
>>
>>So the question for us as the Green Party Of Santa Clara County is are we going to act like every other Democratic and Republican org out there and worry that a female judge asking a male defendant out for coffee (a gay defendant by the way) after the case is over is going to blow up into a big sex scandal like Anthony Weiner, or are we going to be a bit more circumspect and objective and endorse a judge for re-election even though she appears to be human?
>>
>>
>>John Thielking
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>>To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
>> 
>>
>>
>>Spencer,
>>
>>Both Pete and I have read that Mercury
                                  News article. However, you shouldn't
                                  be so ready to believe everything you
                                  read in the Mercury News. As you are
                                  so fond of pointing out, we need
                                  citizen journalists in place of what
                                  passes for the mainstream media. Also,
                                  what do you know about courtroom
                                  procedures? Thanks.
>>
>>John Thielking
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
>>To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:05 PM
>>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Registrar Of Voters Still Counting Signatures, and one agenda item
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>????? Have you seen what
                                              the Mercury wrote about
                                              Diane Ritchie from Feb. 1,
                                              2014 (www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25044258/rookie-san-jose-judge-still-struggles-job-sources)?? "In one case, Ritchie asked a landlord to serve as a translator for a tenant who was complaining about substandard conditions; in another, she publicly asked a former client appearing before her on petty theft charges for his phone number so they could meet socially. ... She ... invited the defendant into her chambers and [then] took him out to lunch".? 
>>
>>
>>????? She may "stick up
                                              for the little people",
                                              but she needs to watch
                                              courtroom protocol:? With
                                              the landlord-tenant
                                              dispute, if a translator
                                              was needed and was not
                                              available, I think she
                                              should have ordered a
                                              continuance so one could
                                              be located.? Her failure
                                              to do so suggests bias in
                                              favor of the landlord.?
                                              With the former client
                                              accused of petty theft,
                                              she should have recused
                                              herself.? 
>>
>>
>>????? If this report is
                                              accurate, Ritchie's
                                              behavior raises serious
                                              questions about her
                                              impartiality and ability
                                              to rule based on the law
                                              -- and her ability to
                                              serve responsibly as a
                                              judge.? 
>>
>>
>>????? Spencer 
>>
>>
>>On 2/26/2014 8:34 PM, John
                                              Thielking wrote:
>>
>>As of yesterday the Registrar Of Voters is still counting the Green Party signatures that were turned in, according to my room mate Pete.? Does anyone else have a more recent update?
>>>
>>>Also, Pete wants to talk
                                                about possibly endorsing
                                                Diane Ritchie for Judge
                                                for Santa Clara Valley.?
                                                He had a good experience
                                                with her and believes
                                                that she sticks up for
                                                the little people.
>>>
>>>John Thielking
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: "perrysandy at aol.com" <perrysandy at aol.com>
>>>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>>>Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:23 AM
>>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA GPSCC 2-27-14
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>Please send suggested amendments or additions. Thanks!
>>>?
>>>?
>>>Sandy
>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>Green Party Meeting? Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
>>>?
>>>7:00-7:30? Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
>>>?
>>>7:30?? Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, and Agenda Preparer for February.
>>>?
>>>7:40? Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
>>>?
>>>7:55? Treasurer's report and hat passing
>>>?????????PO Box report: Andrea
>>>?
>>>8:05? Discuss the following proposal sent to the Discuss list:
>>>?
>>>I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadly publicized.
>>>?
>>>8:40? Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
>>>?
>>>8:55? Report on single payer health care work. Sandy
>>>?
>>>9:05? Report on climate change work.
>>>? 
>>>9:15? Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
>>>?
>>>9:25 Adjourn
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>sosfbay-discuss
                                                      mailing list
>>>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>>
>

-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 27 16:22:27 2014
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:22:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Final Agenda Anyone? Legal Opinion About DR's
	Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters S...
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That's fine.? Pete would still like a chance to speak about Diane Ritchie at our meeting tonight. She was his attorney a few years ago and did a good job for him. I still don't see a final agenda being circulated. So far we have the additional items of DR and Fred and his wife's death (commemorative certificate for Fred proposed by Tian) to discuss. Thanks.

John Thielking




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To: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; pagesincolor at yahoo.com; perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:51 PM
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February 27, 2014
?
I have previously written and spoken my opinions about GPSCC 
endorsements.? I don't think we should be endorsing local candidates unless 
they request it and give us the courtesy of attending a meeting or at least 
sending someone from their campaign.
?
I don't really thing the GPSCC needs to be endorsing judicial 
candidates.? If GPSCC members want to get into evaluating candidates, I 
suggest we follow past practice of delegating 
a committee to put together an information?comparison 
of? candidate positions with a comment of either reccomended, 
not recommended, or no recommendation.
?
Warner
?
In a message dated 2/27/2014 3:29:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com writes:

>????? I would oppose the Green Party 
  of Santa Clara County taking a position on Ritchie without first consulting 
  several attorneys for their views on her and on the Merc story / stories about 
  her.? 
>
>
>????? We could start by 
  consulting Warner.? 
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From perrysandy at aol.com  Thu Feb 27 17:23:54 2014
From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:23:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Final Agenda Anyone? Legal Opinion About DR's
 Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters S...
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Hi John,

Here is a final agenda.

Sandy


Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014
 
7:00-7:30  NancyNeff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak on SB 27 and SB 52.
 
7:30   Meetingstarts. Identify Facilitator, Note Taker, Vibes Watcher, Time Keeper, andAgenda 
          Preparer for February.
 
7:40 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda
 
7:55  Treasurer'sreport and hat passing
         POBox report: Andrea
 
8:00 Memorial/appreciationfor Lois Duperrault.
 
8:05  Discuss thefollowing proposal I sent to the Discuss list:
 
I also believe we shouldconsider a suggestion made by Drew a while ago: to grow the Green Party insmall local committees as we are attempting to do with some small success at DeAnza. To have the main (tedious) business of the Party handled by the CountyCouncil in a separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthlymembership meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward newmembers and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and broadlypublicized.
 
8:40  Evaluate ourcandidate signature campaign and lessons learned.
 
8:55  Report onsingle payer health care work. Sandy
 
9:05  Report on climate change work.
  
9:15  Whether ornot to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.
 
9:25   Diane Ritchie campaign for Judge.
 
9:25Adjourn




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That's fine.  Pete would still like a chance to speak about Diane Ritchie at our meeting tonight. She was his attorney a few years ago and did a good job for him. I still don't see a final agenda being circulated. So far we have the additional items of DR and Fred and his wife's death (commemorative certificate for Fred proposed by Tian) to discuss. Thanks.

John Thielking





  
 
 
 
   From: "WB4D23 at aol.com" <WB4D23 at aol.com>
 To: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com; pagesincolor at yahoo.com; perrysandy at aol.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
 Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters S...
  
 


  
February 27, 2014
 
I have previously written and spoken my opinions about GPSCC endorsements.  I don't think we should be endorsing local candidates unless they request it and give us the courtesy of attending a meeting or at least sending someone from their campaign.
 
I don't really thing the GPSCC needs to be endorsing judicial candidates.  If GPSCC members want to get into evaluating candidates, I suggest we follow past practice of delegating 
a committee to put together an information comparison of  candidate positions with a comment of either reccomended, 
not recommended, or no recommendation.
 
Warner
 

In a message dated 2/27/2014 3:29:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com writes:

      I would oppose the Green Party   of Santa Clara County taking a position on Ritchie without first consulting   several attorneys for their views on her and on the Merc story / stories about   her.  


      We could start by   consulting Warner.  





 
 
  

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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Thu Feb 27 21:17:30 2014
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:17:30 -0800
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] February 27, 2014, meeting minutes
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Please send any additions or corrections to this list.  Spencer


On 2/27/2014 5:23 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote:
> Hi John,
> Here is a final agenda.
> Sandy
> *Green Party Meeting  Thursday, Feb 27, 2014*
> 7:00-7:30 Nancy Neff from California Clean Money Campaign will speak 
> on SB 27 and SB 52.


       Nancy Neff:  nancy at neffs.net


       Nancy mentioned Disclose, Amend, Reform, Empower (DARE):  
Disclose, Amend to overturn Citizens United, Reform


       SB27 requires nonprofits to disclose any amounts over ~$50K. 
Passed the house with amendments.  Must go back to the Senate for their 
concurrence.


       SB52 requires the top 3 funders must be identified on TV ads, top 
2 on radio ads.


       Nancy distributed "activist packets":  www.CAdisclose.org > 
Action > Download materials.  This includes a request for funds, a 
petition that anyone can download and collect signatures, AND a request 
for letters sent to Assembly Speaker Perez and Assembly Speaker Elect 
Atkins.


       This Saturday, there will be a Grass Roots Leaders Summit at All 
Saints Episcopal Church, 555 Waverly, Palo Alto.  Y'all come.

> 7:30 Meeting starts. Identify Facilitator:  Sandy


> , Note Taker:  Spencer


> , Vibes Watcher:


> , Time Keeper:  John


> , and AgendaPreparer for March:  Warner.

> 7:40 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to agenda

> 7:55 Treasurer's report and hat passing
>          PO Box report: Andrea

PO Box held over to next month.

> 8:00 Memorial/appreciation for Lois Duperrault.


       Brainstorming:  $100 for a plaque for the Peace Center.  Or give 
to a charity Lois particularly liked.


       Spencer to ask Tian.

> 8:05 Discuss the following proposal I sent to the Discuss list:
> I also believe we should consider a suggestion made by Drew a while 
> ago: to grow the Green Party in small local committees as we are 
> attempting to do with some small success at De Anza. To have the main 
> (tedious) business of the Party handled by the County Council in a 
> separate meeting (open to any member). To have our monthly membership 
> meeting be an educational or organizing event geared toward new 
> members and prospective members, with films, lectures, or actions, and 
> broadly publicized.


Warner:  There is value in having an open discussion of our business, 
even if some may consider this tedious.  We need to go through meetings 
like this just to keeping this party going.  Warner is more interested 
in supporting business meetings than presentations.


** >> Spencer to contact Sanda to determine what we need to do to obtain 
a legal County Council.


    Maybe have an outreach meeting every other month?  Sandy is willing 
to try to initiate the process -- try it at least once.


       Maybe this business meeting start at 7 PM rather than 7:30 PM?


       It helps having people coming from outside for a 7 PM speaker.


Conclusion:


       1.  The regular meeting will remain as is with an extra effort to 
get a speaker for the first half hour.


       2.  We will try to organize occasional extra events, starting 
with Sandy.

> 8:40 Evaluate our candidate signature campaign and lessons learned.


       PROBLEM:  We have no local candidates.  The planning process for 
that needs to be 2 years long.  We have no organization attempt to 
identify people to run for local office.


       Sandy:  A new party in New York (well funded) has an active 
candidate recruitment effort.

> 8:55 Report on single payer health care work. Sandy


       Health Fair:  April 12 at Andrew Hill High School.  500-600 
people.  We may be able to get a Green speaker on the agenda.

> 9:05Report on climate change work.


       An anti-keystone rally --


       A court decided Nebraska could NOT us eminent domain for this.

> 9:15 Whether or not to host a GPCA Plenary ? Warner.


       The day after our January meeting, Sanda asked if Santa Clara 
County would like to host state wide Plenary in June.


       This would entail finding a location for 50-75 people, lots of 
work planning.


       Warner will write Sanda saying the issue was discussed but we are 
not able to do it at this time.

> 9:25Diane Ritchie campaign for Judge.


       Pete and a good experience with Diane Ritchie as an attorney.


       There have been no report to the Judicial Council of the State of 
California on Ritchie.


       There is a clerk, a bailiff, and a reporter.


        The bailiff is a Santa Clara County Sheriff's deputy.

> 9:25 Adjourn

Signatures for Cindy Sheehan


Youtube for Daniel Sheehan


Labor Council:  Pete saw part of a debate at the Labor council.


Cathy Sutherland is supported by Carpenter, Mayfield, Warner, and others.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
> To: WB4D23 <WB4D23 at aol.com>; spencer.graves 
> <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; perrysandy 
> <perrysandy at aol.com>; sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:22 pm
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Final Agenda Anyone? Legal Opinion About 
> DR's Behavior: Was Registrar Of Voters S...
>
> That's fine.  Pete would still like a chance to speak about Diane 
> Ritchie at our meeting tonight. She was his attorney a few years ago 
> and did a good job for him. I still don't see a final agenda being 
> circulated. So far we have the additional items of DR and Fred and his 
> wife's death (commemorative certificate for Fred proposed by Tian) to 
> discuss. Thanks.
>
> John Thielking
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* "WB4D23 at aol.com <mailto:WB4D23 at aol.com>" <WB4D23 at aol.com 
> <mailto:WB4D23 at aol.com>>
> *To:* spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com 
> <mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>; 
> pagesincolor at yahoo.com <mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com>; 
> perrysandy at aol.com <mailto:perrysandy at aol.com>; 
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:51 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Legal Opinion About DR's Behavior: Was 
> Registrar Of Voters S...
>
> February 27, 2014
> I have previously written and spoken my opinions about GPSCC 
> endorsements.  I don't think we should be endorsing local candidates 
> unless they request it and give us the courtesy of attending a meeting 
> or at least sending someone from their campaign.
> I don't really thing the GPSCC needs to be endorsing judicial 
> candidates.  If GPSCC members want to get into evaluating candidates, 
> I suggest we follow past practice of delegating
> a committee to put together an information comparison of candidate 
> positions with a comment of either reccomended,
> not recommended, or no recommendation.
> Warner
> In a message dated 2/27/2014 3:29:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
> spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com 
> <mailto:spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com> writes:
>
>
>           I would oppose the Green Party of Santa Clara County taking
>     a position on Ritchie without first consulting several attorneys
>     for their views on her and on the Merc story / stories about her.
>
>
>           We could start by consulting Warner.
>
>
>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com

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