From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jul 4 18:10:17 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:10:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Lawrence Lessig and the Mayday SuperPAC Message-ID: <53B75079.7080508@earthlink.net> FYI, On Mayday (5/1/14), I started receiving emails from Lawrence Lessig about his Mayday SuperPAC (mayday.us). Two days ago (7/2) a friend received an email that led him to ask me about the SuperPac. His email and a new email from Lessig today led me to do a little research. So, FYI, ... 1) In case you don't know already, the stated purpose is "We?re kickstarting a Super PAC big enough to make it possible to win a Congress committed to fundamental reform by 2016. We set fundraising goals and then crowdfund those goals." 2) "For 2014, our goal is to create a $12 million fund. With that money, we will make fundamental reform the key issue in five congressional races. And win." 3) The early emails from Lessig about this SuperPac provided links to rootstrikers.org, demandprogress.org, mayone.us, and mayday.us. 4) Very short term goals: - $1,000,000 in the first 30 days. (Done) - $5,000,000 by today (July 4). (I think that includes the original $1,000,000.) 5) On the mayday.us pledge page: https://mayday.us/newpledge/ the "Who to Fund?" options are "Whatever Helps", "Democrats Only, "Republicans Only". 6) On the mayday.us FAQ page: https://mayday.us/faq/ there is this item: ================================= The options of ?Whatever Helps,? ?Republicans Only,? and ?Democrats Only? do not leave room for an ?Independents/3rd Party? option. Why have you chosen to exclude independent candidates? In 2014, our objective is to win seats on the basis of reform, and to show that we can win seats on the basis of reform. We don?t see any independent candidates on the federal level who could win this election cycle. Spending our donors money to support independent candidates doesn?t advance our objective. However, if that changes, we will reconsider. ================================= 7) It seems very likely that they will meet the second goal ($5,000,000). - the deadline is 7/5 at 4:00 AM PDT. - at 7/4, 1:55 PM, pledged amount was $4,412,xxx. - at 7/4, 2:59 PM, pledged amount was $4,635,xxx. - at 7/4, 4:16 PM, pledged amount was $4,751,xxx. - at 7/4. 6:09 PM, pledged amount was $4,948,xxx. 8) The 7/2 email to my friend was from The Nation and pointed to mayday.us. The email I got today was from boldprogressives.org, and it pointed to boldprogressives.org. NOTE: boldprogressives.org is for the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, and it appears to me that it has strong ties to the Democratic Party, if it is not actually a wing of the Democratic Party. 9) On the boldprogressives.org pledge page, it allows donations to go to "PCCC Strategic Fund" and/or "PCCC - Progressive Change Campaign Committee". And the text to the left says: ================= Donations to the PCCC Strategic Fund will go to help MayDay PAC reach its $5 million fundraising goal. If that goal is not met, funds will be used by PCCC to make campaign finance reform a 2014 election issue. You can also donate directly to the PCCC's campaign finance reform work. ================= I'd like to know when Lessig got together with the PCCC, and who approached whom, and what kind of agreement they have. I have no idea whether our oligarchy will care or even notice this Mayday PAC. Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 11:54:10 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 11:54:10 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Nader article Message-ID: <53B849D2.6030306@earthlink.net> Here's an article by Ralph Nader which comments on progressives in general and 2 progressive candidates, one of whom is Green. "Two November Chances for Progressives" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/07/03-3 Candidate web sites: http://www.rabelforcongress.com/ http://mattfunicielloforcongress.org/ Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Jul 6 11:39:28 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 11:39:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SF Mime Troupe Message-ID: <53B997E0.4040200@earthlink.net> The San Francisco Mime Troupe will be at Mitchell Park on Thursday: http://www.sfmt.org/ http://www.sfmt.org/schedule/ Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Jul 6 20:08:55 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:08:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Overturn Citizens United Act on Governor's Desk! In-Reply-To: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140707024734@mail200.atl101.mcdlv.net> References: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140707024734@mail200.atl101.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: <53BA0F47.6040405@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: SB 1272 would place an initiative on the November ballot asking California voters to demand that Congress pass a U.S. Constitutional amendment that corporations are not people, and money is not speech (overturning the US Supreme Court Citizens United decision). It just passed the California Senate, having previously passed the Assembly. Governor Brown has NOT said he would sign it. Please urge him to do so, e.g., via "http://CAdisclose.us7.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=218404b9b7d17b8e087467c45&id=7a9df70e24&e=4646e74eb4". Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Overturn Citizens United Act on Governor's Desk! Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 02:48:01 +0000 From: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money Reply-To: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money To: Spencer Ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272! Tell him: /"California voters deserve the right to vote to overturn Citizens United. Corporations aren't people, and money isn't speech! I stand with the Money Out Voters in Coalition and the California Clean Money Campaign in asking you to sign SB 1272 to let the voters weigh in on this November's ballot. Then please help pass SB 52, the California DISCLOSE Act, to make sure political ads have to show who really pays for them. Thank you."/ Sign the Petition Now! /Overturn Citizens United Act/ passed the Senate and Assembly! ? SB 1272 now on Governor's Desk /If you're really active and have signed our petitions in multiple places, we may have already told you the great news and asked you to take action. If so, an extra big thank you./ In a fitting victory for Independence Day, SB 1272, the /Overturn Citizens United Act/, passed the Senate on the last legislative session before the 4th of July. It's now on its way to Governor Brown's desk for him to sign! SB 1272 would put a measure on this November's ballot letting Californians demand that Congress pass a U.S. Constitutional amendment that overturns its terrible /Citizens United /decision and that says once and for all that _corporations aren't people_, and _money isn't speech_. *Now it goes to Governor Brown's desk. So far he hasn't committed to signing it.* Please sign the petition urging Governor Brown to sign SB 1272 to put the /Overturn Citizens United Act/ on the ballot! This legislative victory happened only because we all worked together. The author of the bill, Senator Ted Lieu, and its sponsor Money Out Voters In have done a fabulous job pushing it forward. The California Clean Money Action Fund has been happy to help. Proving that the Senate heard you loud and clear, they voted 24 to 11 to pass it. All the Democrats who voted said "Yes". None of the Republican Senators voted "Yes". It had passed the Assembly on a similar party-line vote of 52-23. *Here's what the "advisory question" on this November's ballot would say:* /?Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth, may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only??/ Trent Lange President, California Clean Money Action Fund -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perrysandy at aol.com Sun Jul 6 22:15:27 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 01:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Case of Green Party Member Rev. Edward Pinkney in Benton Harbor MI Message-ID: <8D167B9993E1450-BA4-9E49@webmail-vm051.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, The June meeting of the GPSCC voted to send a letter of support to Rev. Edward Pinkney who is facing five felony charges for his role in a recall petition campaign against the Mayor. Below is information about the case that I collected for the Green Shadow Cabinet. Sandy Perry http://greenshadowcabinet.us/statements/facing-25-years-prison-circulating-petition Facing 25 Years in Prison for Circulating a Petition June26, 2014 SandyPerry, Secretary of Housing Green Party member and 2008 Congressional candidateRev. Edward Pinkney of Benton Harbor, Michigan is once again battlingpolitical persecution. On July 21, he will stand trial forcirculating recall petitions against Benton Harbor?s pro-corporate MayorJames Hightower. The state is charging him with five felonycounts and threatening him with up to twenty-five years inprison. Benton Harbor has 70% unemployment and 90% of its people living below the poverty line, and is also home to one of the richest companiesin the world, the $19 billion Whirlpool Corporation. Rev. Pinkney has led residents in arelentless battle against racism in the criminal justice system, for jobs,for education, for a better life, and against the state-appointed?Emergency Financial Manager? (EFM) that took over Benton Harbor in 2011.EFMs are a threat to democracy everywhere, as proven when an EFM declaredthe bankruptcy of Detroit in 2013. A federal judge subsequently ruled that itsworkers had no right to keep their pensions despite explicit protection inthe Michigan State Constitution, a decision that impacts the fateof workers as far away as California. The specific charges against Rev. Pinkneyin the recall of Mayor Hightower are that he altered some of the dates onthe petitions. However, the evidence against him introduced at hispreliminary hearing was flimsy and contradictory, as pointed out in a June3 article in Voice of Detroit: ? Another BentonHarbor resident turned in the recall petitions on January 8, not Rev.Pinkney. ? Rev. Pinkney was formally charged and awarrant issued for his arrest on that same day, January 8, but thepetitions were not turned over to the Michigan State Police Forensics Labfor examination until February 26. ? In March, Berrien County Sheriff Deputiesconducted a massive campaign to interrogate and intimidate petitionsigners throughout Benton Harbor. ? Sgt. James Goff, who examined thepetitions, is not a certified Forensics Document Examiner. ? Sgt. Goff testified that, ?I can?t saywho altered them or when.? ? No original petitions were admitted intoevidence, only copies, and the Berrien County Sheriff?s Department,Elections Commission, and Michigan State Police disagree on where theoriginals are located. ? Three witnesses who had circulated petitionstestified that they saw petition signers themselves change the dates ontheir signatures due to errors, and one circulator testified that shechanged a date she herself entered due to an error. ? County Sheriff Sgt. David Zizkovskystated that he himself asked the Forensics Lab to change five dates on thepetitions. ? There was no confession, no certifiedhandwriting expert testimony, no eye witnesses, no evidence that Rev.Pinkney had exclusive access to the petitions, and lots of evidence thatlots of other people had access to them. The charges against Rev. Pinkney are anattack on our right to petition for redress of grievances and our right totake political action independently of the corporate agenda and thetwo-party system. The fight to defend Rev. Pinkney is the fight fordemocracy and for the future of America. ~ SandyPerry servesas Secretary of Housing on the General Welfare Branch of the Green ShadowCabinet. Prior article on Rev. Pinkney: Democracy Campaigner, Rev. Pinkney,Arrested Publicize this case. Write letters ofsupport for Rev. Pinkney to BANCO (Black Autonomous Network of CommunityOrganizations) at banco9342 at sbcglobal.net Donations for legal defense may besent to BANCO, 1940 Union Street, Benton Harbor, MI 49022. ?2014 Green Shadow Cabinet The Green ShadowCabinet of the United States is a civic project not sponsored by or affiliatedwith any political party. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perrysandy at aol.com Sun Jul 6 22:19:57 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 01:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Letter in Support of Rev. Pinkney Message-ID: <8D167BA3A8668F3-BA4-9E55@webmail-vm051.sysops.aol.com> Below is the letter I sent to Rev. Pinkney, as directed by the membership. My understanding is that he will deliver the support letters he receives to appropriate authorities as he determines in consultation with his legal team. Sandy GREEN PARTY of SANTA CLARA COUNTY P.O. Box 611083 San Jose, California95161-1083 BANCO 1940 Union Street Benton Harbor, MI 49022 Banco9342 at sbcglobal.net By email and US Mail July 7, 2014 Dear Rev. Pinkney, The charges that have been brought againstyou for participating in a petition drive to recall your Mayor are an outrageagainst the democratic process and a miscarriage of justice. As fellow Green Party members, we are writingto express our solidarity and support for you and the people of your community.As a small political party, we understand what it is like to circulatepetitions against powerful opposition. Just as Benton Harbor has to fight thecorporate takeover of your town, we in California are in battle with twocorporate parties that are trying to tighten their grip on the State ofCalifornia and its tremendous resources. They deny us the jobs, education,housing, health care, and environmental protections we need. We have been excludedfrom the ballot by the notorious ?top-two? primary rule and a media black-outof our campaigns. The charges against you appear to be aimed atsilencing anyone who dares to stand up for the rights of the people. Theyappear to be targeting anyone who campaigns for independent candidates orparticipates in a recall campaign against the rich and powerful. We will not be intimidated. At its Junemeeting the Green Party of Santa Clara County unanimously agreed to send youthis letter of support. You are an inspiration to us. We support you and willredouble our efforts to build an independent political party to represent thereal interests of the people of our city, our state, and our nation. Sincerely, Sandy Perry County Councilmember Green Party of Santa Clara County -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Mon Jul 7 02:51:20 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 02:51:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Letter in Support of Rev. Pinkney In-Reply-To: <8D167BA3A8668F3-BA4-9E55@webmail-vm051.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D167BA3A8668F3-BA4-9E55@webmail-vm051.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <53BA6D98.4040909@structuremonitoring.com> Dear Sandy: Thanks for doing this. Spencer On 7/6/2014 10:19 PM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > Below is the letter I sent to Rev. Pinkney, as directed by the > membership. My understanding is that he will deliver the support > letters he receives to appropriate authorities as he determines in > consultation with his legal team. > Sandy > *GREEN PARTY of SANTA CLARA COUNTY* > *P.O. Box 611083* > *San Jose, California 95161-1083* > ** > BANCO > 1940 Union Street > Benton Harbor, MI 49022 > Banco9342 at sbcglobal.net > By email and US Mail > July 7, 2014 > Dear Rev. Pinkney, > The charges that have been brought against you for participating in a > petition drive to recall your Mayor are an outrage against the > democratic process and a miscarriage of justice. > As fellow Green Party members, we are writing to express our > solidarity and support for you and the people of your community. As a > small political party, we understand what it is like to circulate > petitions against powerful opposition. Just as Benton Harbor has to > fight the corporate takeover of your town, we in California are in > battle with two corporate parties that are trying to tighten their > grip on the State of California and its tremendous resources. They > deny us the jobs, education, housing, health care, and environmental > protections we need. We have been excluded from the ballot by the > notorious "top-two" primary rule and a media black-out of our campaigns. > The charges against you appear to be aimed at silencing anyone who > dares to stand up for the rights of the people. They appear to be > targeting anyone who campaigns for independent candidates or > participates in a recall campaign against the rich and powerful. > We will not be intimidated. At its June meeting the Green Party of > Santa Clara County unanimously agreed to send you this letter of > support. You are an inspiration to us. We support you and will > redouble our efforts to build an independent political party to > represent the real interests of the people of our city, our state, and > our nation. > Sincerely, > Sandy Perry > County Councilmember > Green Party of Santa Clara County > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Jul 7 12:34:12 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:34:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Australian carbon tax dying? Message-ID: <53BAF634.2070902@earthlink.net> FYI, "Misconceptions Helped Kill Australian Carbon Tax" http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=329100336&ft=1&f= Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 7 15:53:29 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 15:53:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] mailing address Message-ID: <53BB24E9.1080509@sbcglobal.net> Where is it and who picks up themail? Green Party of Santa Clara County P.O. Box 611083 San Jose, CA 95161-1083 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 7 21:29:03 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:29:03 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] voter list Message-ID: <53BB738F.7030405@sbcglobal.net> The Registrar of Voters (ROV) will still give us one copy of the voter list when we submit a formal request on "letterhead." I have an electronic copy of the previous one which I could reuse after changing the date. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 7 21:30:15 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:30:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] semi annual FPPC report Message-ID: <53BB73D7.2080109@sbcglobal.net> The semi annual FPPC reports have been submitted on time. Jim Doyle From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Jul 7 21:33:56 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:33:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] semi annual FPPC report In-Reply-To: <53BB73D7.2080109@sbcglobal.net> References: <53BB73D7.2080109@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1404794036.22539.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yay! On Monday, July 7, 2014 9:30 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: The semi annual FPPC reports have been submitted on time. 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Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Jul 8 03:04:15 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 03:04:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] semi annual FPPC report In-Reply-To: <1404794036.22539.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <53BB73D7.2080109@sbcglobal.net> <1404794036.22539.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53BBC21F.9080407@structuremonitoring.com> Dear Jim: 1. Thanks for doing this. 2. What are the requirements? 3. Could I please have a copy of what you submitted? Thanks, Spencer On 7/7/2014 9:33 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Yay! > > > On Monday, July 7, 2014 9:30 PM, Jim Doyle > wrote: > > > The semi annual FPPC reports have been submitted on time. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Jul 8 03:46:46 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 03:46:46 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] voter list In-Reply-To: <1404794112.73072.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <53BB738F.7030405@sbcglobal.net> <1404794112.73072.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53BBCC16.9020909@structuremonitoring.com> JIM: If you'd like to send me the electronic copy of the previous letter to ROV, I can take care of the rest. Spencer On 7/7/2014 9:35 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > What a good idea. Who will be getting this copy? How will we access it? > > > On Monday, July 7, 2014 9:29 PM, Jim Doyle > wrote: > > > The Registrar of Voters (ROV) will still give us one copy of the voter > list > when we submit a formal request on "letterhead." > > I have an electronic copy of the previous one which I could reuse > after changing the date. > > Jim Doyle > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So here it is uncensored: Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Jul 10 08:38:55 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:38:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1405006735.43821.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks John. I am always grateful to have a worry removed. It's also nice to know I could buy uranium on amazon.? Caroline On Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:18 AM, John Thielking wrote: The following text would not post to the article on rt.com that talked about the uranium being stolen in Iraq because the software thought it contained "offensive language". So here it is uncensored: Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. John Thielking _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edenw at gal3.com Thu Jul 10 09:20:34 2014 From: edenw at gal3.com (eden) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:20:34 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: > The following text would not post to the article on rt.com > that talked about the uranium being stolen in Iraq > because the software thought it contained "offensive language". So > here it is uncensored: > > Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on Amazon.com, > I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT start jumping on > the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought that path was proven > to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in Iraq story is also > sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted propaganda used to justify > bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, ok, but fool me twice? Come on > RT, get it together. I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not aware of? -- eden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peacemovies at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 09:45:23 2014 From: peacemovies at gmail.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:45:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Thielking Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories To: eden Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is messing up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my Facebook wall where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium available on Amazon.com (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire posting has gone missing. Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available on Amazon.com. John Thielking On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden wrote: > On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: > > The following text would not post to the article on rt.com that talked > about the uranium being stolen in Iraq because the software thought it > contained "offensive language". So here it is uncensored: > > Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on Amazon.com, I > wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT start jumping on the > "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought that path was proven to be > bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in Iraq story is also sourced from > Reuters, probably USA planted propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet > again. Fool me once, ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. > > > I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on Amazon > and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not aware of? > > -- > eden > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Jul 10 11:10:17 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:10:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Uranium on Amazon (was: Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories) In-Reply-To: References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> Message-ID: <53BED709.9070400@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: John was correct: The first two matches when I Googled for "Uranium on Amazon" were small quantities sold for research purpose and testing Geiger counters (http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405011818&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium+ore#productDescription and http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM). The second was is labeled 766 cpm (counts per minute). If I computed correctly, to get this many cpm, this container would have roughly 30 micrograms. (For my calculations, see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m1D_WmOcmbcrZhK177G1NBWnITjht1dr72fn8UObuvc/edit?usp=sharing). If I understand correctly, the primary problem with uranium is NOT radioactivity but toxicity, roughly like eating or inhaling lead. See Wikipedia, "Uranium" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium). Spencer On 7/10/2014 9:45 AM, John Thielking wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *John Thielking* > > Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest > "WMDs in Iraq" Stories > To: eden > > > > Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is > messing up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my > Facebook wall where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium > available on Amazon.com (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire > posting has gone missing. Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available on > Amazon.com. > > John Thielking > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden > wrote: > > On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: >> The following text would not post to the article on rt.com >> that talked about the uranium being stolen in >> Iraq because the software thought it contained "offensive >> language". So here it is uncensored: >> >> Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on >> Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT >> start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I >> thought that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical >> weapons in Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA >> planted propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool >> me once, ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. > > I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on > Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not > aware of? > > -- > eden > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Jul 10 11:51:13 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:51:13 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> Message-ID: <53BEE0A1.5040908@earthlink.net> What about this? http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405017912&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium or http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Z7KS0ES6P9Z995EEZGE . But I don't consider these to be very dangerous. You would need a lot of these and some expensive equipment and some months to get weapons grade uranium. Gerry John Thielking wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *John Thielking* > > Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs > in Iraq" Stories > To: eden > > > > Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is messing > up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my Facebook wall > where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium available on Amazon.com > (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire posting has gone missing. > Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available on Amazon.com. > > John Thielking > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden > wrote: > > On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: >> The following text would not post to the article on rt.com >> that talked about the uranium being stolen in Iraq >> because the software thought it contained "offensive language". So >> here it is uncensored: >> >> Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on >> Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT >> start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought >> that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in >> Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted >> propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, >> ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. > > I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on > Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not aware of? > > -- > eden > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From wrolley at charter.net Thu Jul 10 12:17:47 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:17:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ongoing Drought Message-ID: <53BEE6DB.20003@charter.net> I checked reservoir levels just now: Lexington (2nd largest reservoir) is at 19.2 % of capacity. Uvas is at 9.2 %. Chesbro is at 4.0 % Calero is at 45.5 % Thankfully, the largest reservoir we have, Anderson, is at 62.9 % since that is where water deliveries from the State Water Project eventually arrive. Yet, I have read that most of Silicon Valley is not conserving water as requested. In fact, the average useage in San Jose had gone up. We seem to be ill prepared... maybe incapable of thinking about it... to deal with an extended drought. Is it time to shame our neighbors? Is it time to shame our City Officials? And, there is a real surprise waiting for us all. Since all of the water infrastructure including it's operations, is funded by a user fee, when the usage drops, the per unit fees will have to rise just to cover costs. One Bay Area Water district has already decided to deal with this by implementing a "Drought Surcharge." -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and y $ou don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Jul 10 12:18:31 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:18:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: <53BEE0A1.5040908@earthlink.net> References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> <53BEE0A1.5040908@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53BEE707.4090002@structuremonitoring.com> Hi, Gerry et al.: One was marked 766 cpm (counts per minute), which per my computations corresponds to roughly 30 micrograms, which is advertised at $40 or very roughly $1 per microgram = $1 million per gram = $1 billion per kilogram. "As little as 15 lb (7 kg) of uranium-235 can be used to make an atomic bomb" (Wikipedia, Uranium). Natural uranium ore is 0.71 percent U-235. Thus, you'd need 140 pounds of natural uranium ore to get one pound of U-235 or roughly a ton of ore to get 15 pounds of U-235. If you bought it from Amazon, you'd need $1 trillion. You can probably get it much cheaper elsewhere. As I said before, however, the bigger problem is biological toxicity. Wikipedia says that inhalation is a better problem than eating it. There are trace amounts of all kinds of toxic things in the food we eat. This probably includes uranium. Fortunately, the amounts are usually so small, the health effects are usually negligible. I doubt if 30 micrograms is enough to do you much harm, but I'm not going to perform that experiment. Spencer On 7/10/2014 11:51 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > What about this? > http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405017912&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium > > or > http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Z7KS0ES6P9Z995EEZGE > . > > But I don't consider these to be very dangerous. You would > need a lot of these and some expensive equipment and some > months to get weapons grade uranium. > > Gerry > > > John Thielking wrote: >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *John Thielking* > > >> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs >> in Iraq" Stories >> To: eden > >> >> >> Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is messing >> up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my Facebook wall >> where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium available on Amazon.com >> (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire posting has gone missing. >> Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available on Amazon.com. >> >> John Thielking >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden > > wrote: >> >> On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: >>> The following text would not post to the article on rt.com >>> that talked about the uranium being stolen in Iraq >>> because the software thought it contained "offensive language". So >>> here it is uncensored: >>> >>> Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on >>> Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT >>> start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought >>> that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in >>> Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted >>> propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, >>> ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. >> >> I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on >> Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not >> aware of? >> >> -- >> eden >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Jul 10 12:24:00 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:24:00 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Uranium on Amazon In-Reply-To: <1405019082.77328.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> <53BED709.9070400@prodsyse.com> <1405019082.77328.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53BEE850.5020805@prodsyse.com> On 7/10/2014 12:04 PM, John Thielking wrote: > Spencer, > > Looking at your spreadsheet, it seems that you are assuming that the > stuff being sold is pure uranium. sg: no. > Actually, the net wt of the ore in the product description appears to > be 2 oz or so, probably with a U238 content of 30 micrograms. I estimated you'd need 30 micrograms of pure uranium to get 766 counts per minute. That could be mixed with any amount of other material, e.g. 2 ounces (= roughly 60 grams; there are 30 grams per ounce). > Since there is only one left in stock, it seems like it would be > pretty hard for a terrorist to get enough U235 to build a bomb from > this source. Even the 80 lbs of ore that was claimed to have been > stolen from Iraq wouldn't produce much of anything even if it were > refined further. agreed. sg > Please repost to the list if you agree with this part (I can't post to > the list from this e-mail address) Thanks. > > John Thielking > > *From:* Spencer Graves > *To:* John Thielking ; sosfbay discussion group > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:10 AM > *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] Uranium on Amazon (was: Why We Should Not > Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories) > > Hello, All: > > > John was correct: The first two matches when I Googled for > "Uranium on Amazon" were small quantities sold for research purpose > and testing Geiger counters > (http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405011818&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium+ore#productDescription > and http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM). The > second was is labeled 766 cpm (counts per minute). If I computed > correctly, to get this many cpm, this container would have roughly 30 > micrograms. (For my calculations, see > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m1D_WmOcmbcrZhK177G1NBWnITjht1dr72fn8UObuvc/edit?usp=sharing). > > > > If I understand correctly, the primary problem with uranium is > NOT radioactivity but toxicity, roughly like eating or inhaling lead. > See Wikipedia, "Uranium" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium). > > > Spencer > > > On 7/10/2014 9:45 AM, John Thielking wrote: >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *John Thielking* > > >> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest >> "WMDs in Iraq" Stories >> To: eden > >> >> >> Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is >> messing up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my >> Facebook wall where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium >> available on Amazon.com (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire >> posting has gone missing. Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available >> on Amazon.com. >> >> John Thielking >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden > > wrote: >> >> On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: >>> The following text would not post to the article on rt.com >>> that talked about the uranium being stolen in >>> Iraq because the software thought it contained "offensive >>> language". So here it is uncensored: >>> >>> Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on >>> Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT >>> start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I >>> thought that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical >>> weapons in Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA >>> planted propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool >>> me once, ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. >> >> I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on >> Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not >> aware of? >> >> -- >> eden >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web:http://www.structuremonitoring.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Thu Jul 10 16:10:00 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:10:00 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Uranium on Amazon In-Reply-To: <53BED709.9070400@prodsyse.com> References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> <53BED709.9070400@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <53BF1D48.3000402@charter.net> On 7/10/2014 11:10 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: > Hello, All: > > > John was correct: The first two matches when I Googled for > "Uranium on Amazon" were small quantities sold for research purpose > and testing Geiger counters > (http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405011818&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium+ore#productDescription > and http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM). The > second was is labeled 766 cpm (counts per minute). If I computed > correctly, to get this many cpm, this container would have roughly 30 > micrograms. (For my calculations, see > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m1D_WmOcmbcrZhK177G1NBWnITjht1dr72fn8UObuvc/edit?usp=sharing). > > > > If I understand correctly, the primary problem with uranium is > NOT radioactivity but toxicity, roughly like eating or inhaling lead. > See Wikipedia, "Uranium" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium). It is all in context, Spencer. Doctoral research by Stephanie Raymond-Whish at N. Ariz. Univ. established that Uranium is also an estrogen mimic. That accounts for the rapid rise in cancer rates among Navajo women when the US started to mine on the Navajo Reservation, including at least 2 members of Raymond-Whish's family including her mother. https://www.hcn.org/issues/371/17708 I think that all members of Congress who vote for extended uses of uranium should be wiling to have the female members of their families drink groundwater from down slope of the old mining sites tailing ponds and slag piles. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does it matter what the individual reservoirs have or is just the sum total of water in all the reservoirs? For example if one were transport 1,000,000 gallons from Anderson to Chesbro, would it make a differenc? > > Yet, I have read that most of Silicon Valley is not conserving water as > requested. In fact, the average useage in San Jose had gone up. We seem > to be ill prepared... maybe incapable of thinking about it... to deal > with an extended drought. Is it time to shame our neighbors? Is it > time to shame our City Officials? I think a lot of people figure "Why should I cut back when my neighbor is not?" This is another example of the tragedy of the commons. And I heard someone say that when they enforce mandatory conservation, the amount allotted to each household depends on the amount each household has been consuming. So that would provide an incentive to use more for now. I think it is time to ask some serious questions of our relevant public officials. One thing I would like to know is, "If the drought continues as it has been, and we keep consuming as we have been, when with the water pipes run dry?". If the answer were 10 years, I think not many would take it seriously. If the answer were 6 months, I think people would take it seriously. Gerry > > And, there is a real surprise waiting for us all. Since all of the > water infrastructure including it's operations, is funded by a user fee, > when the usage drops, the per unit fees will have to rise just to cover > costs. One Bay Area Water district has already decided to deal with > this by implementing a "Drought Surcharge." > > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and y $ou don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Jul 10 16:53:17 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:53:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: <53BEE707.4090002@structuremonitoring.com> References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> <53BEE0A1.5040908@earthlink.net> <53BEE707.4090002@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <53BF276D.6080506@earthlink.net> Spencer Graves wrote: > Hi, Gerry et al.: > > > > One was marked 766 cpm (counts per minute), which per my > computations corresponds to roughly 30 micrograms, which is advertised > at $40 or very roughly $1 per microgram = $1 million per gram = $1 > billion per kilogram. > > > "As little as 15 lb (7 kg) of uranium-235 can be used to make an > atomic bomb" (Wikipedia, Uranium). Natural uranium ore is 0.71 percent > U-235. Thus, you'd need 140 pounds of natural uranium ore to get one > pound of U-235 or roughly a ton of ore to get 15 pounds of U-235. If > you bought it from Amazon, you'd need $1 trillion. You can probably get > it much cheaper elsewhere. > Ok. > > As I said before, however, the bigger problem is biological > toxicity. Wikipedia says that inhalation is a better problem than > eating it. There are trace amounts of all kinds of toxic things in the > food we eat. This probably includes uranium. Fortunately, the amounts > are usually so small, the health effects are usually negligible. I > doubt if 30 micrograms is enough to do you much harm, but I'm not going > to perform that experiment. Ok, so if a family with small children were to have this uranium ore, their biggest fear should that a child might eat it. But for national policies, the fears tend to be about WMDs, and these Amazon products should not be of concern in terms of WMDs. Gerry > > > Spencer > > > On 7/10/2014 11:51 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> >> What about this? >> http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405017912&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium >> >> or >> http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Z7KS0ES6P9Z995EEZGE >> . >> >> But I don't consider these to be very dangerous. You would >> need a lot of these and some expensive equipment and some >> months to get weapons grade uranium. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> John Thielking wrote: >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *John Thielking* >> > >>> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs >>> in Iraq" Stories >>> To: eden > >>> >>> >>> Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is messing >>> up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my Facebook wall >>> where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium available on Amazon.com >>> (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire posting has gone missing. >>> Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available on Amazon.com. >>> >>> John Thielking >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden >> > wrote: >>> >>> On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: >>>> The following text would not post to the article on rt.com >>>> that talked about the uranium being stolen in Iraq >>>> because the software thought it contained "offensive language". So >>>> here it is uncensored: >>>> >>>> Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on >>>> Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT >>>> start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I thought >>>> that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in >>>> Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted >>>> propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, >>>> ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. >>> >>> I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on >>> Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not >>> aware of? >>> >>> -- >>> eden >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> > From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Jul 10 22:12:36 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 22:12:36 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest "WMDs in Iraq" Stories In-Reply-To: <53BF276D.6080506@earthlink.net> References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> <53BEE0A1.5040908@earthlink.net> <53BEE707.4090002@structuremonitoring.com> <53BF276D.6080506@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53BF7244.2000404@structuremonitoring.com> On 7/10/2014 4:53 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > Spencer Graves wrote: >> Hi, Gerry et al.: >> >> >> >> One was marked 766 cpm (counts per minute), which per my >> computations corresponds to roughly 30 micrograms, which is advertised >> at $40 or very roughly $1 per microgram = $1 million per gram = $1 >> billion per kilogram. >> >> >> "As little as 15 lb (7 kg) of uranium-235 can be used to make an >> atomic bomb" (Wikipedia, Uranium). Natural uranium ore is 0.71 percent >> U-235. Thus, you'd need 140 pounds of natural uranium ore to get one >> pound of U-235 or roughly a ton of ore to get 15 pounds of U-235. If >> you bought it from Amazon, you'd need $1 trillion. You can probably get >> it much cheaper elsewhere. >> > > Ok. > >> >> As I said before, however, the bigger problem is biological >> toxicity. Wikipedia says that inhalation is a better problem than >> eating it. There are trace amounts of all kinds of toxic things in the >> food we eat. This probably includes uranium. Fortunately, the amounts >> are usually so small, the health effects are usually negligible. I >> doubt if 30 micrograms is enough to do you much harm, but I'm not going >> to perform that experiment. > > Ok, so if a family with small children were to have this > uranium ore, their biggest fear should that a child might > eat it. Fear#1: Child (or adult) breaths it into lungs. The cilia in lungs work to get rid of foreign material, but I don't think they are as efficient with uranium compounds as the rest of the body including the gastro-intestinal tract. Fear#2: Eating it. Fear#3: Radiation. Wikipedia: Uranium "occurs naturally in low concentrations of a few parts per million in soil, rock and water. ... A person can be exposed to uranium (or its radioactive daughters such as radon) by inhaling dust in air or by ingesting contaminated water and food. [NOTE: Everyone should make sure they have enough air circulation to prevent radon produced by decay of the uranium in the soil from building up to harmful levels. This is especially a problem in basements, if I understand correctly.] "[P]eople who work in factories that process phosphate fertilizers, live near government facilities that made or tested nuclear weapons, live or work near a modern battlefield where depleted uranium weapons have been used, or live or work near a coal-fired power plant, facilities that mine or process uranium ore, or enrich uranium for reactor fuel, may have increased exposure to uranium. ... Most ingested uranium is excreted during digestion. Only 0.5% is absorbed when insoluble forms of uranium ... are ingested, whereas absorption of the more soluble uranyl ion can be up to 5%. However, [the latter] tend to quickly pass through the body whereas insoluble [forms], especially when inhaled ..., pose a more serious exposure hazard. After entering the bloodstream, the absorbed uranium tends to bioaccumulate and stay for many years in bone tissue because of uranium's affinity for phosphates." > > But for national policies, the fears tend to be about WMDs, > and these Amazon products should not be of concern in terms > of WMDs. Correct: Weapons of minimal destruction ;-) > > Gerry > > >> >> >> Spencer >> >> >> On 7/10/2014 11:51 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: >>> >>> What about this? >>> http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405017912&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium >>> >>> >>> or >>> http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=pd_sbs_indust_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0Z7KS0ES6P9Z995EEZGE >>> >>> . >>> >>> But I don't consider these to be very dangerous. You would >>> need a lot of these and some expensive equipment and some >>> months to get weapons grade uranium. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> John Thielking wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: *John Thielking* >>> > >>>> Date: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why We Should Not Worry About The Latest >>>> "WMDs >>>> in Iraq" Stories >>>> To: eden > >>>> >>>> >>>> Could you please repost this to the entire list? My computer is >>>> messing >>>> up and won't let me reply all. Anyway, I double checked my Facebook >>>> wall >>>> where I know I had saved the link to the Uranium available on >>>> Amazon.com >>>> (and the whole rabbit too) but now the entire posting has gone >>>> missing. >>>> Oh well. Uranium ore USED TO BE available on Amazon.com. >>>> >>>> John Thielking >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM, eden >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> On 14-07-10 08:18, John Thielking wrote: >>>>> The following text would not post to the article on rt.com >>>>> that talked about the uranium being stolen in >>>>> Iraq >>>>> because the software thought it contained "offensive >>>>> language". So >>>>> here it is uncensored: >>>>> >>>>> Considering that you can buy research grade uranium ore on >>>>> Amazon.com, I wouldn't worry about this story. Since when did RT >>>>> start jumping on the "there are WMDs in Iraq" bandwagon? I >>>>> thought >>>>> that path was proven to be bogus in 2003. The chemical weapons in >>>>> Iraq story is also sourced from Reuters, probably USA planted >>>>> propaganda used to justify bombing Iraq yet again. Fool me once, >>>>> ok, but fool me twice? Come on RT, get it together. >>>> >>>> I agree with your conclusion, but i tried to find uranium on >>>> Amazon and failed. Are you referring to something that i'm not >>>> aware of? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> eden >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>> >> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Jul 10 22:20:12 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 22:20:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Uranium on Amazon In-Reply-To: <53BF1D48.3000402@charter.net> References: <53BEBD52.8080103@gal3.com> <53BED709.9070400@prodsyse.com> <53BF1D48.3000402@charter.net> Message-ID: <53BF740C.3020608@structuremonitoring.com> Hi, Wes: On 7/10/2014 4:10 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > On 7/10/2014 11:10 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: >> Hello, All: >> >> >> John was correct: The first two matches when I Googled for >> "Uranium on Amazon" were small quantities sold for research purpose >> and testing Geiger counters >> (http://www.amazon.com/naturally-contains-Uraninite-radiation-detector/dp/B00CQ9LLR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405011818&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium+ore#productDescription >> and http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM). The >> second was is labeled 766 cpm (counts per minute). If I computed >> correctly, to get this many cpm, this container would have roughly 30 >> micrograms. (For my calculations, see >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m1D_WmOcmbcrZhK177G1NBWnITjht1dr72fn8UObuvc/edit?usp=sharing). >> >> >> >> If I understand correctly, the primary problem with uranium is >> NOT radioactivity but toxicity, roughly like eating or inhaling >> lead. See Wikipedia, "Uranium" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium). > It is all in context, Spencer. Doctoral research by Stephanie > Raymond-Whish at N. Ariz. Univ. established that Uranium is also an > estrogen mimic. That accounts for the rapid rise in cancer rates among > Navajo women when the US started to mine on the Navajo Reservation, > including at least 2 members of Raymond-Whish's family including her > mother. https://www.hcn.org/issues/371/17708 Thanks for this. Might you have time to look for a way to work this into the Wikipedia article on uranium? I couldn't find this mentioned, and it looks like it belongs, either in the section on " Human exposure" or "Effects and precautions". I don't want to take the lead on this, but I'd be pleased to help with the syntax of the Mediawiki markup language if you'd like. Spencer > > I think that all members of Congress who vote for extended uses of > uranium should be wiling to have the female members of their families > drink groundwater from down slope of the old mining sites tailing > ponds and slag piles. > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Dennis Kucinich: Both Political Parties Have Failed America" http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/dennis_kucinich_both_political_parties_have_failed_america_20140711 NOTE: He says it was only Fox News that would ask him his point of view when he was in Congress. Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jul 11 12:22:13 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:22:13 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "World Council of Churches pulls fossil fuel investments" In-Reply-To: <53C038FF.1030009@earthlink.net> References: <53C038FF.1030009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53C03965.2050502@earthlink.net> "World Council of Churches pulls fossil fuel investments" "Campaigners hail 'major victory' as council representing half a billion Christians says it will stop investing in fossil fuels" http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/11/world-council-of-churches-pulls-fossil-fuel-investments =================== "Group Representing Half A Billion Christians Says It Will No Longer Support Fossil Fuels" http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/07/11/3459111/wcc-christians-divests/ Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jul 11 18:13:27 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:13:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Senate Judiciary Committee supports an amendment against "Citizens United" In-Reply-To: <53C08984.4030907@earthlink.net> References: <53C08984.4030907@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53C08BB7.1060601@earthlink.net> FYI, "The Senate Judiciary Committee Just Backed an Amendment to Overturn ?Citizens United?" by John Nichols http://www.thenation.com/blog/180605/senate-judiciary-committee-just-backed-amendment-overturn-citizens-united Move to Amend is the first grassroots movement to be mentioned. Gerry From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Fri Jul 11 21:01:42 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:01:42 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! In-Reply-To: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140710194822@mail55.atl71.mcdlv.net> References: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140710194822@mail55.atl71.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: <53C0B326.8010705@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: SB 1272 would place a measure on the November ballot asking the electorate to ask the US congress to pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, declaring that corporations are not people and money is not speech. This is stalled in Gov. Brown's office having passed both the California Assembly and Senate. You can help get move this item as follows: 1. Sign their online petition to Gov. Brown at "http://CAdisclose.us7.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=218404b9b7d17b8e087467c45&id=9f713842f5&e=4646e74eb4". (NOTE: This is new. Previous petitions went to various committees and members of the CA Assembly and Senate. This is to Gov. Brown.) 2. Next week some time M-F, 9-5, could you please call his office at (877)561-5708 and ask him to sign? If you get a human, ask what they know about the status of SB 1272, then indicate your support and then report their response to this list. See below part of an email from the CA Clean Money Campaign on this. Thanks, Spencer Graves -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:48:53 +0000 From: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money Reply-To: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money To: Spencer Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! Because you support disclosure or campaign finance reform. View this email in your browser *Please call Governor Brown to ask him to sign SB 1272! (877) 561-5708* Call between 9am-5pm and just say: /"Hi, my name is [NAME]. I'm calling to ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272, the Overturn Citizens United Act. Thank you!"/ Report your call! *The /Overturn Citizens United Act/ is on Governor Brown's desk now!* Getting the California Senate and Assembly to pass SB 1272, the /Overturn Citizens United Act/, was a major victory that was made possible by the more than 50,000 people who signed petitions urging the legislature to pass it. But SB 1272 needs Governor Brown's signature to go onto the ballot so Californians can demand that Congress pass a U.S. Constitutional amendment that overturns /Citizens United/ and that says once and for all that *corporations aren't people*, and *money isn't speech*. *Please call Governor Brown to urge him to sign SB 1272!* *Calls are one of the most powerful things you can do. The number is (877) 561-5708*. Call between 9am and 5pm (or maybe a little after). When it picks up, press 1 for English or 2 for Spanish. In the next menu, press 6 to speak to a live person who will take your message. They're getting a lot of calls, so you may have to hold a little while ? but stay on because somebody should eventually answer! When they answer, all you have to say is something like: /Hi, my name is [NAME]. I'm calling to ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272, the Overturn Citizens United Act. Thank you!/ That's all you have to do. It's great if you can use your own words, but even calling with exactly that message will make a big difference. Be sure to thank them for their time! *Call him at (877) 561-5708 now!* Report your call! *Are you reading this after 5pm or before 9am?* If you open this email after 5pm, there probably won't be anybody to answer, so instead please sign the petition to Governor Brown to send him an email . *Already signed?* Then please share it with your friends on Facebook ! Thank you for your support, and stay tuned for more ways you can help pass SB 1272 and other ways to address the problem of money in politics, SB 52 /California DISCLOSE Act/. Together, we will create a democracy that is truly of, by, and for the people. Trent Lange President, California Clean Money Action Fund -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe this is a threat to democracy, to world peace, and to the prosperity of the bottom 99 percent. The mainstream commercial media has all but eliminated investigative journalism from television: It threatens the ability of their advertisers to get favors from government, increasing the wealth of those with power while impoverishing everyone else. It is now known that Saddam Hussein did NOT have weapons of mass destruction in 2003, and the media fired journalists and television personalities to prevent the public from hearing from those claiming he didn't. Best Wishes, Spencer p.s. I recently uploaded a 60-second video to YouTube asked we "Restrict secrecy more than data collection" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV8mHfu3mDw). It mentions a blog at "sanjosepeace.wordpress.com", which I am currently revising. Please let me know if you'd like to review my draft before I publish it. MY EMAIL TO THE FCC Please support net neutrality. Broadband is a telecommunications service. However, I've heard that a proposed FCC rule would deny that for the purposes of Title II of the Telecommunications Act. A vote against net neutrality is a vote against democracy and for the ability of the mainstream media to stampede the public into war on fraudulent grounds, as occurred with the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 and support further increases in inequality of income and wealth. Thomas Piketty says this will further destabilize the international political economy. I believe he is correct. Please support democracy and world peace by supporting net neutrality. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Four days to stand up for Net Neutrality Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:53:18 +0000 From: Jon Fox, Access To: Spencer Graves *Join the chorus: Tell the FCC to reclassify broadband and adopt real Net Neutrality rules today!* Spencer, Over the past few months, HBO host John Oliver, hundreds of tech companies, and millions of people like you have come out strong in support of Net Neutrality - the principle protecting free speech online. *But right now the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is considering new rules that could kill Net Neutrality.* We need your voice to join the chorus telling the FCC to stand up for users and to pass strong rules that actually protect the open internet! *Tell Chairman Tom Wheeler to end network discrimination by reclassifying broadband as a telecommunications service and enforcing real Net Neutrality rules in the United States.* Earlier this year, FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler introduced a plan that would allow internet service providers to set up internet ?fast lanes? for those who could afford them, and ?slow lanes? for everyone else. Not surprisingly, these rules caused a fast and furious public outcry. If it passes these rules, the FCC would give companies like AT&T, Comcast, and Verizon the green light to crush the founding principles of the open internet. That?s why we at Access ? and millions of others ? are fighting back. Only by reclassifying broadband as a ?telecommunications service? can the FCC truly protect our rights online. *Tell the FCC to stand up for users and reclassify broadband as a telecommunications service under Title II of the Telecommunications Act.* On July 15, the FCC will close the first public comment period on its proposed rules. Access and other partners have already flooded the FCC with calls, emails, and tweets demanding the FCC protect the open internet. Now it?s time to for you to make your voice heard by posting a comment ? we'll deliver it straight to the FCC. *Don?t let Comcast, AT&T, Verizon and others slow you down. 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Score 69 X-AVG-Antispam-Info: 69,4.5,0,0f0f734238b51a4f,d41d8cd98f00b204, ca19zlima-113 at mail.house.gov,wrolley at refpub.com, RULES_HIT:4:10:41:72:355:379:455:474:539:541:542:581:901:960:962:967:969:973:978:983:988:989:1189:1208:1221:1260:1308:1309:1313:1314:1345:1390:1431:1432:1433:1434:1437:1516:1517:1518:1546:1571:1575:1588:1589:1594:1730:1744:1777:1792:2107:2198:2199:2380:2525:2527:2568:2610:2636:2682:2685:2859:2894:2895:2902:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3353:3586:3590:3664:3769:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4264:4321:4362:4365:4886:5007:6238:6248:6261:6653:6669:6674:6688:7603:7903:7980:8513:8518:8550:8583:8599:8603:8660:8885:8906:8957:9025:9059:9077:9080:9111:9388:9411:9416:9908:10007:10049:10183:10332:10346:11026:11253:11473:11658:11854:12043:12050:12295:12438:12555:12698:12737:12812:13139:13148:13160:13161:13163:13181:13229:13230:13234:13235:13236:13237:13294:13548:14089:14090:14091:14094:14096:14294:21060:21080, 0, RBL:205.214.170.226:@mail.house.gov:wrolley at refpub.com.lbl8.mailshell.net-62.20.0.100 64.201.201.201, CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk, SPF:ff,MSBL:0,DNSBL:neutral, Custom_rules:0:2:0 Dear Friend, I want to update you on a huge development in unwarranted NSA surveillance and Congress. And I'd like your opinion too. Last month, the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed my bipartisan amendment - by a 293-123 margin - to shut the backdoor on unwarranted NSA surveillance. For the first time, the House was able to debate and vote on the distinct issue of the 4th amendment and the NSA, and the House stood with the American people and the constitution.Now the Senate needs to follow suit. You can read more about the amendment here . *Now I want to hear from you. What do you think about NSA warrantless surveillance? Tell me below:* Should the NSA and other surveillance agencies search data on US persons without a warrant? No, that's unconstitutional. Yes, it doesn't bother me. I don't know. Click to open Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate your input. Sincerely, Zoe Lofgren Member of Congress Please do not reply to this message, as this inbox is unattended. To contact me please visit http://lofgren.house.gov . If you need immediate help with a Federal Agency please call my San Jose Office at 408-271-8700. To unsubscribe, click here . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sun Jul 13 12:49:20 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 12:49:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: An update on NSA spying In-Reply-To: <53C2CD98.1080203@REFPUB.COM> References: <872911B79A9D4C0D8681A6FA483BC53D@US.House.gov> <53C2CD98.1080203@REFPUB.COM> Message-ID: <53C2E2C0.902@structuremonitoring.com> 1. I would encourage all Greens to contact their Representatives and Senators on this. (If you don't know how to do that, go to house.gov and senate.gov and select "Find your" Representative / Senators.) 2. Feinstein is an infamous hawk. However, even infamous hawks sometimes moderate their positions in the face of opposition. Below please find the message I just sent to her. 3. When I tried to reply to Lofgren's email below, I got an error. I therefore sent her a reply via her web portal at "http://lofgren.house.gov/contact" Best Wishes, Spencer Graves to Sen. Feinstein: Why is James R. Clapper still the Director of National Intelligence? Why has he not been prosecuted for perjury? Congress cannot perform its oversight function if public servants lie with impunity and those who expose those lies are imprisoned and tortured. Does the US have any substantive enemies on the international stage other than ones we have earned by opposing democracy, liberty and justice for all? I know of none. See the summary of my research on this in the 60-second YouTube, "Restrict secrecy more than data collection" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV8mHfu3mDw). The NSA today has the power to infect the computers of millions of its "enemies" with viruses and espionage software. It can use the information so obtained to send fraudulent emails designed to sow dissension among these "enemies". Nixon had 20 on his original enemies list. That grew to over 500. With today's technology his team could have done far more damage to democracy with less chance of being caught. Sincerely, Spencer Graves On 7/13/2014 11:19 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > Do those Greens in Lofgren's district want to answer her survey? > > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: - Sun Jul 13 11:13:48 2014 > X-Account-Key: account5 > X-UIDL: 45fff09400002752 > X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > X-Mozilla-Keys: > Return-Path: > Received: from mx5.netgate.net (mx5.netgate.net [205.214.170.226]) by > vp3.netgate.net (8.11.6/8.11.7) with ESMTP id s6DHtgL29577 for > ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx248.postini.com [64.18.0.168]) by > mx5.netgate.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s6DHtgSC032586 for > ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:55:42 -0700 (envelope-from > CA19ZLima-113 at mail.house.gov) > Received: from s-bulk1-f.house.gov ([143.228.181.89]) (using TLSv1) > by exprod5mx248.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 > 17:55:42 GMT > Received: from LMBG005.US.House.gov (lmbg005.us.house.gov > [143.228.113.49]) by s-bulk1-f.house.gov with ESMTP id s6DHtfgD008169 > for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:55:41 -0400 > X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 s-bulk1-f.house.gov s6DHtfgD008169 > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=mail.house.gov; s=November2012-msg-mhg; t=1405274141; > bh=+L6yO7RIbFO9B2dsFrgCnRhrhZ3KoXroCEgL2j/RsFY=; > h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; > b=g5WDP/A0yHPdOqPpkCpGOTxfw/Z277wp/Lo8uh/jdex51tLySilfgYDUGdOBYuqZ1 > VGP47uMgC5FnaUY4AsunPdQ7gNZpyMtBvyK/tLmd7/UgmZ+Ms1hiZNH3Y8XjyjwkOC > D9Sej4M9MC7HIvE+JL+7/1LsGroFiPUMlb9tyBXk= > Received: from mail pickup service by LMBG005.US.House.gov with > Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:55:40 -0400 > thread-index: Ac+ew6kGqIt8J40sRzG8qTsyHw/5Eg== > Thread-Topic: An update on NSA spying > From: Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren > To: > Cc: > Subject: An update on NSA spying > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:55:40 -0400 > Message-ID: <872911B79A9D4C0D8681A6FA483BC53D at US.House.gov> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_5A2D_01CF9EA2.21F468B0" > X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 > Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message > Importance: normal > Priority: normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2014 17:55:40.0937 (UTC) > FILETIME=[A911EF90:01CF9EC3] > X-pstn-neptune: 1/1/1.00/100 > X-pstn-levels: (S: 7.99927/99.90000 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 > R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:95.5423 C:98.6951 ) > X-pstn-dkim: 1 skipped:not-enabled > X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:0.0010) s cv gt6 gt5 gt4 gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c > X-pstn-addresses: from [704/34] > Status: > X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2013.0.3485 [3955/7847] > X-AVG-ID: ID70563E31-1DCC877F > X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 6.5.17. 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And I'd like your opinion too. > Last month, the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed my > bipartisan amendment > - > by a 293-123 margin - to shut the backdoor > > on unwarranted NSA surveillance. > For the first time, the House was able to debate and vote on the > distinct issue of the 4th amendment and the NSA, and the House stood > with the American people and the constitution.Now the Senate needs to > follow suit. > You can read more about the amendment here > . > *Now I want to hear from you. What do you think about NSA warrantless > surveillance? Tell me below:* > Should the NSA and other surveillance agencies search data on US > persons without a warrant? > No, that's unconstitutional. > Yes, it doesn't bother me. > I don't know. > > Click to open > > Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate your input. > Sincerely, > Zoe Lofgren > Member of Congress > > > > Please do not reply to this message, as this inbox is unattended. > > To contact me please visit http://lofgren.house.gov > . > > If you need immediate help with a Federal Agency please call my San > Jose Office at 408-271-8700. > > To unsubscribe, click here > . > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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(EOM) In-Reply-To: <1405387186.86314.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <2568820E-5CF6-4107-9A19-A7487D21D495@wrytor.com> <1405387186.86314.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1405387521.10644.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Monday, July 14, 2014 6:19 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: Wednesday, if I can find help, I will be tabling at the Sunnyvale Library. 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Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act by July 21 In-Reply-To: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140710194822@mail55.atl71.mcdlv.net> References: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140710194822@mail55.atl71.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: <53C5AB3A.3090509@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: I just spoke with "Sri" in Gov. Brown's office at the number below. I asked his position on SB 1272 (see below). He said the Governor has 12 days to decide starting from when he received it, July 9. If you haven't already, I encourage you to call (877) 561-5708, M-F, 9-5, and ask the same question ;-) Best Wishes, Spencer ################## SB 1272 would place a measure on the November ballot asking the electorate to ask the US congress to pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, declaring that corporations are not people and money is not speech. This is stalled in Gov. Brown's office having passed both the California Assembly and Senate. You can help get move this item as follows: 1. Sign their online petition to Gov. Brown at "http://CAdisclose.us7.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=218404b9b7d17b8e087467c45&id=9f713842f5&e=4646e74eb4". (NOTE: This is new. Previous petitions went to various committees and members of the CA Assembly and Senate. This is to Gov. Brown.) 2. Next week some time M-F, 9-5, could you please call his office at (877)561-5708 and ask him to sign? If you get a human, ask what they know about the status of SB 1272, then indicate your support and then report their response to this list. See below part of an email from the CA Clean Money Campaign on this. Thanks, Spencer Graves -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:48:53 +0000 From: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money Reply-To: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money To: Spencer Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! Because you support disclosure or campaign finance reform. View this email in your browser *Please call Governor Brown to ask him to sign SB 1272! (877) 561-5708* Call between 9am-5pm and just say: /"Hi, my name is [NAME]. I'm calling to ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272, the Overturn Citizens United Act. Thank you!"/ Report your call! *The /Overturn Citizens United Act/ is on Governor Brown's desk now!* Getting the California Senate and Assembly to pass SB 1272, the /Overturn Citizens United Act/, was a major victory that was made possible by the more than 50,000 people who signed petitions urging the legislature to pass it. But SB 1272 needs Governor Brown's signature to go onto the ballot so Californians can demand that Congress pass a U.S. Constitutional amendment that overturns /Citizens United/ and that says once and for all that *corporations aren't people*, and *money isn't speech*. *Please call Governor Brown to urge him to sign SB 1272!* *Calls are one of the most powerful things you can do. The number is (877) 561-5708*. Call between 9am and 5pm (or maybe a little after). When it picks up, press 1 for English or 2 for Spanish. In the next menu, press 6 to speak to a live person who will take your message. They're getting a lot of calls, so you may have to hold a little while ? but stay on because somebody should eventually answer! When they answer, all you have to say is something like: /Hi, my name is [NAME]. I'm calling to ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272, the Overturn Citizens United Act. Thank you!/ That's all you have to do. It's great if you can use your own words, but even calling with exactly that message will make a big difference. Be sure to thank them for their time! *Call him at (877) 561-5708 now!* Report your call! *Are you reading this after 5pm or before 9am?* If you open this email after 5pm, there probably won't be anybody to answer, so instead please sign the petition to Governor Brown to send him an email . *Already signed?* Then please share it with your friends on Facebook ! Thank you for your support, and stay tuned for more ways you can help pass SB 1272 and other ways to address the problem of money in politics, SB 52 /California DISCLOSE Act/. Together, we will create a democracy that is truly of, by, and for the people. Trent Lange President, California Clean Money Action Fund -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Wed Jul 16 18:51:57 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:51:57 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gov. Brown will NOT veto SB 1272 In-Reply-To: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140710194822@mail55.atl71.mcdlv.net> References: <218404b9b7d17b8e087467c454646e74eb4.20140710194822@mail55.atl71.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: <53C72C3D.3090003@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: Gov. Brown declared today he would NOT veto SB 1272. He claims to agree that Citizens United was wrongly decided but opposes purely advisory measures like this; see "http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_1272.pdf". The next major challenge will be to ensure the passage of the initiative: It would be a massive defeat if the initiative failed in November. Spencer ################ I just spoke with "Sri" in Gov. Brown's office at the number below. I asked his position on SB 1272 (see below). He said the Governor has 12 days to decide starting from when he received it, July 9. If you haven't already, I encourage you to call (877) 561-5708, M-F, 9-5, and ask the same question ;-) Best Wishes, Spencer ################## SB 1272 would place a measure on the November ballot asking the electorate to ask the US congress to pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, declaring that corporations are not people and money is not speech. This is stalled in Gov. Brown's office having passed both the California Assembly and Senate. You can help get move this item as follows: 1. Sign their online petition to Gov. Brown at "http://CAdisclose.us7.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=218404b9b7d17b8e087467c45&id=9f713842f5&e=4646e74eb4". (NOTE: This is new. Previous petitions went to various committees and members of the CA Assembly and Senate. This is to Gov. Brown.) 2. Next week some time M-F, 9-5, could you please call his office at (877)561-5708 and ask him to sign? If you get a human, ask what they know about the status of SB 1272, then indicate your support and then report their response to this list. See below part of an email from the CA Clean Money Campaign on this. Thanks, Spencer Graves -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:48:53 +0000 From: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money Reply-To: Trent Lange, CA Clean Money To: Spencer Call Governor Brown to sign the Overturn Citizens United Act! Because you support disclosure or campaign finance reform. View this email in your browser *Please call Governor Brown to ask him to sign SB 1272! (877) 561-5708* Call between 9am-5pm and just say: /"Hi, my name is [NAME]. I'm calling to ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272, the Overturn Citizens United Act. Thank you!"/ Report your call! *The /Overturn Citizens United Act/ is on Governor Brown's desk now!* Getting the California Senate and Assembly to pass SB 1272, the /Overturn Citizens United Act/, was a major victory that was made possible by the more than 50,000 people who signed petitions urging the legislature to pass it. But SB 1272 needs Governor Brown's signature to go onto the ballot so Californians can demand that Congress pass a U.S. Constitutional amendment that overturns /Citizens United/ and that says once and for all that *corporations aren't people*, and *money isn't speech*. *Please call Governor Brown to urge him to sign SB 1272!* *Calls are one of the most powerful things you can do. The number is (877) 561-5708*. Call between 9am and 5pm (or maybe a little after). When it picks up, press 1 for English or 2 for Spanish. In the next menu, press 6 to speak to a live person who will take your message. They're getting a lot of calls, so you may have to hold a little while ? but stay on because somebody should eventually answer! When they answer, all you have to say is something like: /Hi, my name is [NAME]. I'm calling to ask Governor Brown to sign SB 1272, the Overturn Citizens United Act. Thank you!/ That's all you have to do. It's great if you can use your own words, but even calling with exactly that message will make a big difference. Be sure to thank them for their time! *Call him at (877) 561-5708 now!* Report your call! *Are you reading this after 5pm or before 9am?* If you open this email after 5pm, there probably won't be anybody to answer, so instead please sign the petition to Governor Brown to send him an email . *Already signed?* Then please share it with your friends on Facebook ! Thank you for your support, and stay tuned for more ways you can help pass SB 1272 and other ways to address the problem of money in politics, SB 52 /California DISCLOSE Act/. 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Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth, may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only?" * Patrick McKerchner of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend will discuss this with us. *** Regarding this: It seems likely that big money interests already have a plan for how to defeat this. Their plan would likely include focus groups and sample surveys to determine the best way to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt about the real impact of this. Two years ago, big money defeated GMO labeling, which early on seemed almost certain to win. *** REGARDING AGENDA: Could we have a vote on the agenda to endorse this effort plus a discussion of anything else we may want to do about this? I'm fairly confident they will be asking for volunteers and financial contributions. However, those pieces may not be in place by the time of our meeting. On 7/15/2014 3:19 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > July 15, 2014 > The next GPSCC monthly general meeting will be July 24th > (4th Thursday). We have a number of carry over items from the June > meeting. I agreed to prepare the draft agenda. Please submit your > proposals to the discuss list. Warner > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) Report on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use ? County Council (15 minutes) Status Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council ? Spencer (1 minute) Proposal: The GPSCC endorses a ?Yes? vote on Proposition 49 ? Spencer (5 minutes) Continue Discussions regarding GPSCC web page(s) and email list(s) ? Warner and Drew (15 minutes) Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ?executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ? executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) Report on Single Payer Work ? Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report on Climate Change Work -- Caroline (15 Minutes) Discussion of status of tabling supplies ? (10 Minutes) Plans for Tabling ? Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 Minutes) Continued Strategy Discussions ? Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) -? Sandy: Report on compiling summary of past year?s events and activities. Warner: Visioning exercise: Write and read statements for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015 (2.1 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Proposition 49, recently placed on the ballot for the November General Election, will ask the voters the following: "Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth, may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only?? &&& -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Tue Jul 22 22:18:49 2014 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (rainbeaufriend at riseup.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:18:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Pres. Obama, Keep Open Internet Rally Wed., Los Altos Message-ID: I'm not too thrilled with MoveOn's centralized power style and dedication to the unDemocratic Party to the exclusion of any other, but here is one point of action I agree with them on. Thanks to Cristy for fowarding this to me. Greenvolution is NOW! Drew 9:30 AM MEET AT CORNER OF SOUTH SAN ANTONIO ROAD AND WEST EDITH STREET, LOS ALTOS. http://losaltos.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/activists-plan-los-altos-rally-during-president-obamas-visit This is from an email: Hi there, I just want to make sure you saw this message. We hope you can join us tomorrow in Los Altos. This Wednesday, July 23, President Obama is visiting Silicon Valley for a high-dollar fundraiser with leaders in the tech industry. And we, the voters who twice propelled him to office using the power of the Internet, are gathering to tell him, "Don't Kill the Internet!" In the past, President Obama has promised to uphold Net Neutrality?the principle that the Internet is an equal playing field for all. But he's failed to speak out this summer, while big decisions are being made, for the solution: treating the Internet as a public utility, the same way we treat phone services and water. We're calling on him to act while there's still time. That's why, on the morning of July 23, MoveOn members and allies will be gathering in Los Altos, CA. We'll greet President Obama and send him this important message. Can you join us? Here are the details: What: Rally to save the Internet. When: Wednesday, July 23, from 9:30 a.m.-11:00 a.m. Where: Los Altos, CA. Road closures are common when the president is in town. Last week the movement to save the Internet hit a major milestone: the FCC was flooded with more than 600,000 public comments?causing the website to shut down and forcing the FCC to extend the deadline. Since the spring, MoveOn members have submitted thousands of stories to the FCC, held rallies at their offices across the country, and been calling the White House every day to stop the FCC from allowing corporations to take over the Internet. Now we have to turn up the heat on President Obama, and demand he keep his promise to preserve the open Internet. It's time for him to publicly state that he supports the FCC treating the Internet as the public utility it is. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 23:36:40 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:36:40 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Nader Book Tour in California In-Reply-To: <53CF5549.9070004@earthlink.net> References: <53CF5549.9070004@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53CF57F8.9080409@earthlink.net> July 30: http://www.kpfa.org/events/kpfa-radio-941-fm-presents-ralph-nader-unstoppable-emerging-left-right-alliance-dismantle-cor July 31: http://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/2014-07-31/ralph-nader August 1: http://www.booksoup.com/ralph-nader-2014 Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Jul 23 09:08:21 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 09:08:21 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] talk on Prop 49 to overturn Citizens United, 7-7:30 PM tomorrow, Thursday July 24th Message-ID: <53CFDDF5.2050205@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: There will be a presentation before the meeting tomorrow evening on Prop 49 on this November's ballot: It's an advisory initiative asking voters, "Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United ... to allow the full regulation ... of campaign contributions and spending, ... and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only?" The presenter will be Patrick McKercher of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend group. He will outline the campaign organization currently being built and suggest how concerned individuals can help. *** I personally believe that this proposition will be quite important, because if big money defeat this, like they did GMO labeling 2 years ago, it could be a major setback for the effort to limit the power of major corporations. Conversely, if it wins, especially if it wins big, it could by itself push Congress to act while also catalyzing similar actions in other states. Below please find the draft agenda for the meeting 7:30 - 9:30 compiled by Warner. [Of course, if you come at 7 PM, you don't have to stay for the regular meeting.] Spencer GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting July 24, 2014 San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Between Santa Clara and San Fernando Streets) 7:00 pm ??? Speaker: Patrick McKerchner of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend will discuss Proposition 49 which will be on the ballot in November (see below for text). 7:30 pm ??? Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Treasurer???s Report ??? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) Report on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use ??? County Council (15 minutes) Status Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council ??? Spencer (1 minute) Proposal: The GPSCC endorses a ???Yes??? vote on Proposition 49 ??? Spencer (5 minutes) Continue Discussions regarding GPSCC web page(s) and email list(s) ??? Warner and Drew (15 minutes) Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that was previously established by the GPCA CC???s former ???executive manager??? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. Proposal: The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was previously established by the GPCA CC???s former ??? executive manager??? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) Report on Single Payer Work ??? Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report on Climate Change Work -- Caroline (15 Minutes) Discussion of status of tabling supplies ??? (10 Minutes) Plans for Tabling ??? Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 Minutes) Continued Strategy Discussions ??? Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) -??? Sandy: Report on compiling summary of past year???s events and activities. Warner: Visioning exercise: Write and read statements for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015 (2.1 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Proposition 49, recently placed on the ballot for the November General Election, will ask the voters the following: "Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth, may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only???? &&& -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Jul 23 10:49:34 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:49:34 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site P O Box In-Reply-To: <53CEDE59.2010000@sbcglobal.net> References: <53CEDE59.2010000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <53CFF5AE.80800@prodsyse.com> I just corrected the County Council on our web site contacts page. Thanks to Jim for fixing the PO box. Spencer On 7/22/2014 2:57 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > I have just corrected our Post Office Box number > on our web siite on the contacts page. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Jul 23 16:57:37 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:57:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] list of registered voters Message-ID: <53D04BF1.80504@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: With Jim's help I just requested an updated list of registered voters in Santa Clara County. In so doing, I learned that the rules have changed. The new rules are as follows: * We can get one pro bono list per "partisan" election. With the "Top Two" primary, the only "partisan" election is presidential. However, in spite of the fact that there are no "partisan" elections in Santa Clara County this year, our Registrar of Voters is still providing one pro bono list for each qualifying political party. In 2016, if the California legislature doesn't change the rules before then, we will be able to get two free lists: One for the primary and another for the general. * However, if we want to buy a list, we can get that for $82 (under current law); previously it was $500. If we want all the history, it's an additional $20. I paid $20 to get all the history, in case we want it for something. * In a few days, I should receive an email with an ftp address from which I should be able to download the data requested. Questions? Comments? See you tomorrow evening. Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From perrysandy at aol.com Thu Jul 24 21:11:41 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Medicare's Birthday 12 Noon Wed. July 30 at SJ Federal Building Message-ID: <8D175D5AC387F76-7DC-25D6@webmail-va094.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, The Santa Clara County Single Payer Health Care Coalition, of which our local Green Party is an active member, is co-sponsoring this upcoming rally at the Federal Building in San Jose to celebrate Medicare and call for its extension to every resident of the United States. Single payer health care has been long supported by the Green Party at every level. Here is an opportunity to show your support! Sandy Perry 408-691-6153 Join the Campaign forMedicare: Protect it! Improve it! Expand it to CoverEveryone! July 30th is Medicare?s Birthday! This event is beingsponsored by the California Alliance for Retired Americans and the Campaign fora Healthy California. For more information call: Greg Miller 408-254-3311 Join Us On Wednesday, July30th to Celebrate: When: 12:00 noon Where: Federal Building 280 S. 1st St. San Jose What: Rally and celebration for Medicare?sbirthday. Songs, cake, and information on the importance of the Medicareprogram and California?s efforts to win an improved Medicare for all systemthat will finish the job that the Affordable Care Act has begun. We will alsoshow our support for the Social Security Administration and efforts toeliminate sequestration cuts and re-open SSA offices and restore hours. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tableat De Anza College Feb 27, 2013 - Speakat Oak Grove HS Apr 7, 2013 - Tableat David Cobb appearance at SBLC Apr. 13, 2013 - Helporganize and table at Andrew Hill Health Fair Apr 27, 2013 - Tableat Junior State May 1, 2013- SponsorMay Day A2K at De Anza College May 8, 2013 - Tableat Spring into Green, De Anza College Jun 15, 2013 - Tableat Juneteenth Jun 22, 2013 - Participatein Napa State Assembly Aug 3, 2013 - Participatein Richmond Summer Heat Sept 6, 2013 - Co-sponsor,table, and speak at Single Payer Health Care forum at Seventrees Sept 16, 2013 - Speakat Jill Stein event in SF Oct 7 ? 10, 2013 - Participate in March to Heal the Valley Nov 16, 2013 - Participatein Santa Rosa State Assembly Nov 19, 2013 - Tableat Move to Amend campaign event Dec 14, 2013 - Tableat Peace Fair Dec 2013-Mar 2014 ? Signature drive collected over 1200signatures for GP candidates Jan 18, 2014 ? Co-sponsor MLK Freedom Games in Menlo Park Jan 23, 2014 - Tableat Club Day at De Anza Jan 30, 2014 - SponsorSharat Lin talk on Syria & Iran at De Anza Feb 7, 2014 - Participatein Camp Wellstone De Anza College Feb 27, 2014 - Speakat Oak Grove Mar 11, 2014 - Sponsor3 workshops at LEAD Conference, De Anza Apr 9, 2014 - Tableat Gayle Mclaughlin San Jose appearance Apr 5, 2014 - Tableat Junior State Apr 12, 2014 - Co-sponsorAndrew Hill Health Fair Apr 22, 2014 - SponsorEarth Day action at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) Apr 22, 2014 - Tableat Earth Day at SJSU Apr 24, 2014 - Tableat Club Day at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) Apr 28, 2014 - SponsorLuis Rodriguez appearance at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) Apr 30, 2014 - SponsorHip Hop performance at De Anza College (Global Climate Convergence) May 1, 2014 - Co-sponsorHefas appearance at De Anza (Global Climate Convergence) May 15, 2014 - Tableat De Anza Carnival May 23, 2014 - Sponsorcampaign appearance by Laura Wells & Ellen Brown at De Anza May 27, 2014 - Co-sponsorappearance by Father Michael Lapsley at de Anza May 27, 2014 ? Lucinda Gutierrez house meeting for LuisRodriguez May 28, 2014 ? Table at Free Higher Education event at DeAnza Jun 17, 2014 - SponsorSharat Lin talk ?On the Border? at De Anza -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Jul 25 11:56:32 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:56:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Measure, supported by the Santa Clara Greens Message-ID: <53D2A860.9070802@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: By unanimous vote of the County Council, the Green Party of Santa Clara County endorses Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United measure to appear on this November's ballot in California. We did this believing that the corrosive effect of big money on politics in the US is a major obstacle to progress on virtually all major issues facing humanity today. If Prop 49 fails, it could be a major set back for all future efforts to fix any of these problems. If it succeeds -- especially if it gets overwhelming support -- it could catalyze similar efforts in other states and movement in the US Congress on a constitutional amendment "to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign contributions and spending ..., and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only."[*] You may recall that initiatives to require labeling genetically modified foods (Genetically Modified Organisms, GMOs) were defeated in California and elsewhere after having overwhelming support in early polls, because big money interests invested in successful public relations campaigns against them. We therefore hope you will take every opportunity you find to inform yourselves and all your contacts about this measure and facilitate its overwhelming adoption. This could include mentioning it in meetings on other issues like health care and the environment. Thanks. Spencer Graves [*] Prop 49 implements SB 1272, which contains draft language for the initiative. See "http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB1272". You probably know that Harvard Law Prof. Lawrence Lessig (2011, Republic, Lost) insists that campaign finance is the "gateway problem" facing the US today, in that progress on other critical issues is largely blocked until we fix this issue. Overturning Citizens United can help with this problem but won't solve it. I believe a bigger problem is funding investigative journalism, as noted in my recent blog on "Restrict secrecy more than data collection" at sanjosepeace.wordpress.com (http://sanjosepeace.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/restrict-secrecy-more-than-data-collection/). -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Jul 28 09:37:44 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:37:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] talk on Prop 49 to overturn Citizens United, 7-7:30 PM tomorrow, Thursday July 24th In-Reply-To: <53CFDDF5.2050205@prodsyse.com> References: <53CFDDF5.2050205@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1406565464.97821.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> So did somebody take notes at the meeting? I haven't seen any. Caroline On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:08 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hello, All: ??? ? There will be a presentation before the meeting tomorrow evening on Prop 49 on this November's ballot:? It's an advisory initiative asking voters, "Shall the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature ratify, an amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United ... to allow the full regulation ... of campaign contributions and spending, ... and to make clear that the rights protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons only?" ??? ? The presenter will be Patrick McKercher of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend group.? He will outline the campaign organization currently being built and suggest how concerned individuals can help. ??? ? *** I personally believe that this proposition will be quite important, because if big money defeat this, like they did GMO labeling 2 years ago, it could be a major setback for the effort to limit the power of major corporations.? Conversely, if it wins, especially if it wins big, it could by itself push Congress to act while also catalyzing similar actions in other states. ??? ? Below please find the draft agenda for the meeting 7:30 - 9:30 compiled by Warner.? [Of course, if you come at 7 PM, you don't have to stay for the regular meeting.]? Spencer ? GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Meeting July 24, 2014 San? Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA? (Between Santa Clara and San Fernando? Streets) 7:00 pm ? Speaker:? Patrick? McKerchner of the Santa Clara County Move to Amend will discuss Proposition 49? which will be on the ballot in November (see below for? text). 7:30 pm ? Begin meeting -- Select Facilitator, Note taker, Time keeper, and Vibes watcher(s); Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) Report? on status of obtain updated registered voters data and discuss plans for use ?? County Council (15 minutes) Status? Report regarding GPCA reappointment of County Council ?? Spencer? (1 minute)? Proposal:? The GPSCC endorses a ?Yes? vote on? Proposition 49 ? Spencer (5 minutes)? Continue Discussions regarding GPSCC web page(s) and email list(s) ? Warner and Drew (15? minutes) Proposal:? The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet? Technology Committee remove, delete and terminate a second duplicative and out-of-date GPSCC web page that? was previously established by the GPCA CC?s former ?executive manager? Marnie? Glickman without prior consultation with the GPSCC County? Council. Proposal:? The GPSCC requests that the GPCA Coordinating Committee and its Internet Technology Committee remove, delete and? terminate a GPSCC Facebook page or pages that was previously established by the? GPCA CC?s former ? executive manager? Marnie Glickman without prior consultation? with the GPSCC County Council. (20 Minutes) Report? on Single Payer Work ? Caroline and Sandy (15 Minutes) Report? on Climate Change Work -- Caroline? (15 Minutes) Discussion of status of tabling supplies ? (10 Minutes)? Plans? for Tabling ? Need to identify events coordinators -- (10 Minutes)? Continued? Strategy Discussions ? Warner and Sandy (20 Minutes) -?? Sandy:? Report on compiling summary of past? year?s events and activities.? Warner:? Visioning? exercise:? Write and read statements? for one GPSCC accomplishment for 2015? (2.1 Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) Proposition? 49, recently placed on the ballot for the November General Election, will ask? the voters the following:? "Shall? the Congress of the United States propose, and the California Legislature? ratify,? an? amendment or amendments to the United States Constitution to overturn Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010) 558 U.S. 310, and other applicable? judicial precedents, to allow the full regulation or limitation of campaign? contributions and spending, to ensure that all citizens, regardless of wealth,? may express their views to one another, and to make clear that the rights? protected by the United States Constitution are the rights of natural persons? only?? &&& _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Jul 28 14:20:35 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:20:35 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. Message-ID: <53D6BEA3.7010208@charter.net> One of the more important local elections this fall will be fore Directors of the Santa Clara Valley Water District. This is all the more critical as we are in the 3rd year of what appears to be an extended drought... maybe even the establishment of a new normal climate for our area. The following Director terms end in December, 2014: * District 1. Dennis Kennedy * District 4. Linda J. Lazotte * District 6. Tony Estremera * District 7. Brian A Schmidt If you don't know what district you are in, check the maps on this page: http://www.valleywater.org/About/Board_of_Directors/District_Boundaries.aspx I live in District 1, the most rural of all the districts and know Kennedy since he was Mayor of Morgan Hill. I will publicly endorse him this time, in particular after reading these commenst about his role as an elected official: From one email: > We, as water wholesalers, are limited by the enforcement measures > available. We must rely on the retailers; cities and water companies > to enforce our goals. > > I am angered by the careless disregard of some water waisters and will > do my best to get them to stop. > and from another: > One of the toughest challenges for elected officials is changing the > mind set of some bureaucrats who have been "hunkered down" for a while. I have seen this tendency to "hunker down" before. I have also seen bureaucrats who will trust the consultants that they hired to justify a project before they listen to the public when it is critical of their efforts. If for no other reason than this, I would not consider that a Director's experience working for the District to be a plus. It is not necessarily a detriment but voters should consider whether the long time associations might be like blinder keep them from seeing the real problems. I don't know the other Directors all that well. But if they are your director, you should. You should also begin to pay attention to such issues as the planned water bond that will give the state NO NEW WATER. We also need to pay close attention to ground water use. The State of CA has no system to inform planners as to how much ground water is being pumped nor how much is left. As a result, we have some areas in the Central Valley that are experiencing nearly a foot of subsidence per year. Santa Clara County's experience with ground water pumping is very evident in Alviso. This community was not always below sea level, even without the sea level rise we know is coming. Finally, we also need to be sure that the District Board is up front considering the impact of sustained drought on their financial status. As Kennedy wrote, they are wholesalers. That means they get revenue by selling water to retailers (cities, water companies). When usage drops there is less revenue and so rates will necessarily have to rise just to cover the real expenses of supplying water. Droughts of short duration can be handled by incurring more debt. However, that can not be sustained. District long term financial plans must be transparent. You know what to look for. Challenge the candidates in your districts to do the right things. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelmasser at hotmail.com Mon Jul 28 14:45:01 2014 From: joelmasser at hotmail.com (Joel Masser) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:45:01 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. In-Reply-To: <53D6BEA3.7010208@charter.net> References: <53D6BEA3.7010208@charter.net> Message-ID: I believe Director Kennedy is in favor of the Delta Tunnel project. Director Schmidt says he hasn?t decided yet. From: Wes Rolley Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 2:20 PM To: Post South SF Bay discuss Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. One of the more important local elections this fall will be fore Directors of the Santa Clara Valley Water District. This is all the more critical as we are in the 3rd year of what appears to be an extended drought... maybe even the establishment of a new normal climate for our area. The following Director terms end in December, 2014: a.. District 1. Dennis Kennedy b.. District 4. Linda J. Lazotte c.. District 6. Tony Estremera d.. District 7. Brian A Schmidt If you don't know what district you are in, check the maps on this page: http://www.valleywater.org/About/Board_of_Directors/District_Boundaries.aspx I live in District 1, the most rural of all the districts and know Kennedy since he was Mayor of Morgan Hill. I will publicly endorse him this time, in particular after reading these commenst about his role as an elected official: >From one email: We, as water wholesalers, are limited by the enforcement measures available. We must rely on the retailers; cities and water companies to enforce our goals. I am angered by the careless disregard of some water waisters and will do my best to get them to stop. and from another: One of the toughest challenges for elected officials is changing the mind set of some bureaucrats who have been ?hunkered down? for a while. I have seen this tendency to "hunker down" before. I have also seen bureaucrats who will trust the consultants that they hired to justify a project before they listen to the public when it is critical of their efforts. If for no other reason than this, I would not consider that a Director's experience working for the District to be a plus. It is not necessarily a detriment but voters should consider whether the long time associations might be like blinder keep them from seeing the real problems. I don't know the other Directors all that well. But if they are your director, you should. You should also begin to pay attention to such issues as the planned water bond that will give the state NO NEW WATER. We also need to pay close attention to ground water use. The State of CA has no system to inform planners as to how much ground water is being pumped nor how much is left. As a result, we have some areas in the Central Valley that are experiencing nearly a foot of subsidence per year. Santa Clara County's experience with ground water pumping is very evident in Alviso. This community was not always below sea level, even without the sea level rise we know is coming. Finally, we also need to be sure that the District Board is up front considering the impact of sustained drought on their financial status. As Kennedy wrote, they are wholesalers. That means they get revenue by selling water to retailers (cities, water companies). When usage drops there is less revenue and so rates will necessarily have to rise just to cover the real expenses of supplying water. Droughts of short duration can be handled by incurring more debt. However, that can not be sustained. District long term financial plans must be transparent. You know what to look for. Challenge the candidates in your districts to do the right things. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - Roberto Clemente -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Jul 28 18:45:27 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:45:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Messaging for Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014 Message-ID: <53D6FCB7.2090900@prodsyse.com> What do you think we should say in literature supporting Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014? I've heard that Money Out, Voters In (www.moneyoutvotersin.org), which I believe led the effort to get Prop 49 on the ballot, is now working frantically on messaging and are eager for input on this. I put my thoughts on this (1 page) in Google Docs so anyone with the link can comment: "https://docs.google.com/document/d/11gTyZcJrVMn8jStSCDAOaWS3pqgFw8VUOwrnMKLJKJA/edit?usp=sharing". Comments welcomed. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Jul 28 21:40:48 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:40:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Messaging for Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014 In-Reply-To: <53D6FCB7.2090900@prodsyse.com> References: <53D6FCB7.2090900@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1406608848.66140.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I think we should have these to offer to people who want more detailed information, but I think we need something big and catchy with no more than 100 words to press into peoples hands. Caroline On Monday, July 28, 2014 6:46 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: ? ? ? What do you think we should say in literature supporting Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014? ? ? ? I've heard that Money Out, Voters In (www.moneyoutvotersin.org), which I believe led the effort to get Prop 49 on the ballot, is now working frantically on messaging and are eager for input on this. ? ? ? I put my thoughts on this (1 page) in Google Docs so anyone with the link can comment: "https://docs.google.com/document/d/11gTyZcJrVMn8jStSCDAOaWS3pqgFw8VUOwrnMKLJKJA/edit?usp=sharing". ? ? ? Comments welcomed. ? ? ? Best Wishes, ? ? ? Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Jul 29 07:29:25 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:29:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Messaging for Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014 In-Reply-To: <1406608848.66140.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <53D6FCB7.2090900@prodsyse.com> <1406608848.66140.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53D7AFC5.3010005@prodsyse.com> Hi, Caroline et al.: When would you like something? In particular, when is the next meeting of e.g., Healthcare for All, 350.org, where someone could distribute such literature? I assume we can get someone to hand out literature there? What about getting at least a few seconds on the agenda for someone to say something like, "Healthcare for all [or whatever] has largely been stalled, because of the undue influence of big money in politics. Prop 49 will help control this problem, though it won't eliminate it." I believe I can produce acceptable literature for any reasonable deadline. Thanks, sg On 7/28/2014 9:40 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > I think we should have these to offer to people who want more detailed information, but I think we need something big and catchy with no more than 100 words to press into peoples hands. > Caroline > > > On Monday, July 28, 2014 6:46 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: > > > > What do you think we should say in literature supporting Prop 49, > the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, > Nov. 4, 2014? > > > I've heard that Money Out, Voters In (www.moneyoutvotersin.org), > which I believe led the effort to get Prop 49 on the ballot, is now > working frantically on messaging and are eager for input on this. > > > I put my thoughts on this (1 page) in Google Docs so anyone with > the link can comment: > "https://docs.google.com/document/d/11gTyZcJrVMn8jStSCDAOaWS3pqgFw8VUOwrnMKLJKJA/edit?usp=sharing". > > > > > Comments welcomed. > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Jul 29 09:15:38 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:15:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Messaging for Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014 In-Reply-To: <53D7AFC5.3010005@prodsyse.com> References: <53D6FCB7.2090900@prodsyse.com> <1406608848.66140.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <53D7AFC5.3010005@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1406650538.77959.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Actually, Tian and I tabled at the Sunnyvale Library, because they were having a lecture on how to use power more wisely in your home. We passed out Green lit with our new address on it. I had rubber stamps made and Jim Doyle came over and helped stamp. Sandy went to the healthcare meeting. I have tried to send along 350.org notifications of upcoming events, but they don't get posted. Shall I just send them to you? Caroline On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: Hi, Caroline et al.: ? ? ? When would you like something? ? ? ? In particular, when is the next meeting of e.g., Healthcare for All, 350.org, where someone could distribute such literature? I assume we can get someone to hand out literature there?? What about getting at least a few seconds on the agenda for someone to say something like, "Healthcare for all [or whatever] has largely been stalled, because of the undue influence of big money in politics.? Prop 49 will help control this problem, though it won't eliminate it." ? ? ? I believe I can produce acceptable literature for any reasonable deadline. ? ? ? ? Thanks, ? ? ? sg On 7/28/2014 9:40 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > I think we should have these to offer to people who want more detailed information, but I think we need something big and catchy with no more than 100 words to press into peoples hands. > Caroline > > > On Monday, July 28, 2014 6:46 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >? > > >? ? ? ? What do you think we should say in literature supporting Prop 49, > the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, > Nov. 4, 2014? > > >? ? ? ? I've heard that Money Out, Voters In (www.moneyoutvotersin.org), > which I believe led the effort to get Prop 49 on the ballot, is now > working frantically on messaging and are eager for input on this. > > >? ? ? ? I put my thoughts on this (1 page) in Google Docs so anyone with > the link can comment: > "https://docs.google.com/document/d/11gTyZcJrVMn8jStSCDAOaWS3pqgFw8VUOwrnMKLJKJA/edit?usp=sharing". > > > > >? ? ? ? Comments welcomed. >? ? ? ? Best Wishes, >? ? ? ? Spencer > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Jul 29 09:23:44 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:23:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Messaging for Prop 49, the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, Nov. 4, 2014 In-Reply-To: <1406650538.77959.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <53D6FCB7.2090900@prodsyse.com> <1406608848.66140.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <53D7AFC5.3010005@prodsyse.com> <1406650538.77959.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53D7CA90.4040507@prodsyse.com> Hi, Caroline: Yes, please send me the 350.org notifications of upcoming events you mentioned. What can you tell me about why "they don't get posted"? Do you get an error message? What do you do why you "have tried"? Thanks, sg On 7/29/2014 9:15 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Actually, Tian and I tabled at the Sunnyvale Library, because they were having a lecture on how to use power more wisely in your home. We passed out Green lit with our new address on it. I had rubber stamps made and Jim Doyle came over and helped stamp. Sandy went to the healthcare meeting. I have tried to send along 350.org notifications of upcoming events, but they don't get posted. Shall I just send them to you? > Caroline > > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: > > > > Hi, Caroline et al.: > > > When would you like something? > > > In particular, when is the next meeting of e.g., Healthcare for > All, 350.org, where someone could distribute such literature? I assume > we can get someone to hand out literature there? What about getting at > least a few seconds on the agenda for someone to say something like, > "Healthcare for all [or whatever] has largely been stalled, because of > the undue influence of big money in politics. Prop 49 will help control > this problem, though it won't eliminate it." > > > I believe I can produce acceptable literature for any reasonable > deadline. > > > Thanks, > sg > > > > On 7/28/2014 9:40 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> I think we should have these to offer to people who want more detailed information, but I think we need something big and catchy with no more than 100 words to press into peoples hands. >> Caroline >> >> >> On Monday, July 28, 2014 6:46 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >> >> >> >> What do you think we should say in literature supporting Prop 49, >> the Overturn Citizens United Advisory Measure on the California ballot, >> Nov. 4, 2014? >> >> >> I've heard that Money Out, Voters In (www.moneyoutvotersin.org), >> which I believe led the effort to get Prop 49 on the ballot, is now >> working frantically on messaging and are eager for input on this. >> >> >> I put my thoughts on this (1 page) in Google Docs so anyone with >> the link can comment: >> "https://docs.google.com/document/d/11gTyZcJrVMn8jStSCDAOaWS3pqgFw8VUOwrnMKLJKJA/edit?usp=sharing". >> >> >> >> >> Comments welcomed. >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From wrolley at charter.net Tue Jul 29 12:00:54 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:00:54 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. In-Reply-To: References: <53D6BEA3.7010208@charter.net> Message-ID: <53D7EF66.2070808@charter.net> On 7/28/2014 2:45 PM, Joel Masser wrote: > I believe Director Kennedy is in favor of the Delta Tunnel project. > Director Schmidt says he hasn?t decided yet. I think that Director Kennedy is in favor of a rational Bay Delta Conservation Plan. That does not mean that he agrees on the tunnels. I know that his campaign manager is a strong supporter of Restore the Delta and very much against the tunnels. Here is an excerpt from a piece that Kennedy ran in Morgan Hill Life around the beginning of the year. > While water conflicts are legendary in California, we know that > sustaining our Silicon Valley economy and quality of life is of > paramount importance. That?s why our board has held a series of public > meetings, seeking out different views on BDCP. We have not made a > decision and are still evaluating the proposed project. As we continue > a transparent process to evaluate the plan?s components and analyze > the costs and benefits to Silicon Valley, we must also reflect on the > costs of doing something different and the costs of doing nothing. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joelmasser at hotmail.com Tue Jul 29 14:20:21 2014 From: joelmasser at hotmail.com (Joel Masser) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:20:21 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. In-Reply-To: <53D7EF66.2070808@charter.net> References: <53D6BEA3.7010208@charter.net> <53D7EF66.2070808@charter.net> Message-ID: Right, Dennis and Swanee disagree on the tunnels. From: Wes Rolley Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:00 PM To: Post South SF Bay discuss Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. On 7/28/2014 2:45 PM, Joel Masser wrote: I believe Director Kennedy is in favor of the Delta Tunnel project. Director Schmidt says he hasn?t decided yet. I think that Director Kennedy is in favor of a rational Bay Delta Conservation Plan. That does not mean that he agrees on the tunnels. I know that his campaign manager is a strong supporter of Restore the Delta and very much against the tunnels. Here is an excerpt from a piece that Kennedy ran in Morgan Hill Life around the beginning of the year. While water conflicts are legendary in California, we know that sustaining our Silicon Valley economy and quality of life is of paramount importance. That?s why our board has held a series of public meetings, seeking out different views on BDCP. We have not made a decision and are still evaluating the proposed project. As we continue a transparent process to evaluate the plan?s components and analyze the costs and benefits to Silicon Valley, we must also reflect on the costs of doing something different and the costs of doing nothing. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - Roberto Clemente -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Jul 29 21:30:58 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:30:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. In-Reply-To: References: <53D6BEA3.7010208@charter.net> <53D7EF66.2070808@charter.net> Message-ID: <1406694658.14587.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Instead of paying billions to move water we no longer have, why don't we get to work on desalination? Caroline On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:20 PM, Joel Masser wrote: Right, Dennis and Swanee disagree on the tunnels.? From: Wes Rolley Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:00 PM To: Post South SF Bay discuss Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Water, water nowhere. ? On 7/28/2014 2:45 PM, Joel Masser wrote: I believe Director Kennedy is in favor of the Delta Tunnel project. Director Schmidt says he hasn?t decided yet.I think that Director Kennedy is in favor of a rational Bay Delta Conservation Plan.?? That does not mean that he agrees on the tunnels.?? I know that his campaign manager is a strong supporter of Restore the Delta and very much against the tunnels. Here is an excerpt from a piece that Kennedy ran in Morgan Hill Life around the beginning of the year.? While water conflicts are legendary in California, we know that sustaining our Silicon Valley economy and quality of life is of paramount importance. That?s why our board has held a series of public meetings, seeking out different views on BDCP. We have not made a decision and are still evaluating the proposed project. As we continue a transparent process to evaluate the plan?s components and analyze the costs and benefits to Silicon Valley, we must also reflect on the costs of doing something different and the costs of doing nothing. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - Roberto Clemente ________________________________ _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Inhofe blocks climate change resolution" http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/213559-inhofe-blocks-climate-change-resolution congress.gov info (Text and Summary not yet available): https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-resolution/524 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jul 30 16:53:34 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:53:34 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Nader Book Tour in California In-Reply-To: <53CF57F8.9080409@earthlink.net> References: <53CF5549.9070004@earthlink.net> <53CF57F8.9080409@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <53D9857E.9060307@earthlink.net> Nader was on KQED Forum this morning: http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201407301000 A forum will be rebroadcast tonight at 10PM, but I don't know if it will be the Nader forum or the 9AM forum. Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > July 30: > http://www.kpfa.org/events/kpfa-radio-941-fm-presents-ralph-nader-unstoppable-emerging-left-right-alliance-dismantle-cor > > > July 31: > http://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/2014-07-31/ralph-nader > > August 1: > http://www.booksoup.com/ralph-nader-2014 > > Gerry