[GPSCC-chat] Obama Claims That Russian Takeover Of Crimea Is "Worse" Than US Takeover Of Iraq

[John Thielking]

Some have claimed that Obama did not actually claim that the vote by Crimea to join Russia was "worse" than the US invasion of Iraq. What was actually said by Obama was that in Iraq the US did not annex the territory and did not appropriate its resources for the benefit of the US. The implication still is that the situation in Iraq turned out better for Iraqis because their borders were intact after the US pulled out all of its troops.  The full transcript was published by the Washington Post here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/transcript-president-obama-gives-speech-addressing-europe-russia-on-march-26/2014/03/26/07ae80ae-b503-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html 

John Thielking

PS In this speech, Obama repeats the lies that the US was not supporting the Nazi overthrow of the duly elected president of Ukraine and that the uprising in Tripoli (Libya) was also not supported by outside forces.




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Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama Claims That Russian Takeover Of Crimea Is	"Worse" Than US Takeover Of Iraq
 


While it may be true that the Crimean vote to join Russia did not have a "no" or "none of the above" option when choosing between joining Russia or going back to the 1992 constitution where Crimea is essentially independent from Ukraine, I hardly think that the shock and awe bombing campaign against Iraq killed less people than Russia's (or the Russian backed "self defense forces' ") takeover of Crimea.  But that is exactly what Obama is asserting, as broadcast this AM on rt.com. I will check out CNN too to see if they are swallowing that fish whole or not.  As in the novel '1984', violence (80 dead in Kiev at the hands of Neo-Nazi snipers) is nonviolence (or at least nonviolent democratic 'victims' at the hands of Yanocovich) and nonviolence (as in the Russian takeover of Crimea) is violence.


John Thielking

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