From wrolley at charter.net Mon Sep 1 09:34:38 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:34:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PUBLIC fORUM on CA Drought Message-ID: <5404A01E.90405@charter.net> The San Jose Mercury News has announced a public forum on the CA Drought. You can read the particulars here: http://www.mercurynews.com/drought/ci_26425591/san-jose-mercury-news-hosts-public-forum-san Space is limited, so to reserve your spot, please register at this link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Sept11Drought. There is a related story today regarding the increasing pressure from Ag interests to build new dams. You will note that the movement (if you can call it that) to restore Hetch-Hetchy seems to have disappeared. One problem with the idea of building new dams is the fact that it assumes there will always be enough precip to fill the reservoirs. Given the impact of climate change, that assumption should be challenged. 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URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 2 16:50:16 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:50:16 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] invitation to endorse or sponsor Message-ID: <540657B8.3080208@sbcglobal.net> This is an excerpt of what was sent to me: Hi Jim, My name is John and I'm with the SF Bay Chapter of the Sierra Club. Based on the Green Party of Santa Clara County's support of the Forward on Climate rally last year, we wanted to invite you to support the Northern California People?s Climate Rally this September 21st at Oakland?s Lake Merritt Amphitheater. The purpose of the event is to act in solidarity with the historic People's Climate March in New York, where thousands of people will rally for climate action from a UN Summit on climate change happening that same week. We in the Bay Area also planning major poster & bannering, street actions, etc. all over the region on that day. All these events and actions will welcome families and children, often including games and activities for children. Our Bay Area Rally will be one of dozens of exciting rallies that will be held all across the U.S. and worldwide. * Endorsers ? promote event to their members or, for individuals, * to their associates, friends and colleagues * * Sponsors ? promote event to their members, plus provide * financial support of $25 to $200 and/or volunteers * * Partners ? promote event to their members, provide financial * support of $250 to $1,000 and/or provide volunteers * From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Sep 2 17:04:51 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 17:04:51 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] invitation to endorse or sponsor In-Reply-To: <540657B8.3080208@sbcglobal.net> References: <540657B8.3080208@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1409702691.92875.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I am planning to go to Oakland if I can find anyone to go with me. I really want to endorse and sponsor this event. Caroline On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 4:50 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: This is an excerpt of what was sent to me: Hi Jim, My name is John and I'm with the SF Bay Chapter of the Sierra Club. Based on the Green Party of Santa Clara County's support of the Forward on Climate rally last year, we wanted to invite you to support the Northern California People?s Climate Rally this September 21st at Oakland?s Lake Merritt Amphitheater. The purpose of the event is to act in solidarity with the historic People's Climate March in New York, where thousands of people will rally for climate action from a UN Summit on climate change happening that same week. We in the Bay Area also planning major poster & bannering, street actions, etc. all over the region on that day. All these events and actions will welcome families and children, often including games and activities for children. Our Bay Area Rally will be one of dozens of exciting rallies that will be held all across the U.S. and worldwide. * Endorsers ? promote event to their members or, for individuals, * to their associates, friends and colleagues * * Sponsors ? promote event to their members, plus provide * financial support of $25 to $200 and/or volunteers * * Partners ? promote event to their members, provide financial * support of $250 to $1,000 and/or provide volunteers * _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perrysandy at aol.com Sat Sep 6 18:38:44 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 21:38:44 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [DAGreens] Apple Protest Tues Sep 9th, 8am start @ Memorial Park, across from De Anza In-Reply-To: <300e08b3bfa91a070cf0caa81113403f@riseup.net> References: <300e08b3bfa91a070cf0caa81113403f@riseup.net> Message-ID: <8D19853986B92C6-1418-17395@webmailstg-vd07.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: RainBeauFriend To: dagreenparty ; dasfj Sent: Sat, Sep 6, 2014 3:30 pm Subject: [DAGreens] Apple Protest Tues Sep 9th, 8am start @ Memorial Park, across from De Anza Come join us in action for a better Apple, a better De Anza and a better quality of life for Santa Clara Co. residents. On Tuesday September 9th, begining at 8am the DA Green Party, other concerned De Anza students, faculty and staff, and Unions representing Apple janitors, security officers, and other property service workers will be protesting Apple's actions. We will gather in the Memorial Park across the street, at 8am, so please come join us for our peaceful protest. What are some of our concerns? 1) Apple bribed our administration, took over our supposedly "public" campus for a number of weeks now, intimidated the De Anza community with their "security" officers everywhere, scare tactics over even discussing the monstrous sound stage they built for their Sept. 9th product launch. 2) Apple prospers at the expense of the community, doesn't pay its share of taxes. The resulting jobs v. housing imbalance is destroying the quality of life for residents of Santa Clara and surrounding counties. We need affordable housing, living wages, worker and environmental safety, healthcare: better better labor conditions and a better quality of life for Santa Clarans. Rising inequality remains a threat to Silicon Valley's prosperity. 30% of jobs in the region pay less than a living wage. Apple is a leader of the monster tech corporations and is in a position to make a big difference to the community. We call upon them to step up and lead. Apple currently is a bad neighbor: "...a growing number of local activists say that the country's most successful companies aren't doing their part to improve the communities around them..." "When people talk about Silicon Valley, San Francisco or this whole area, people think that because it's the home of all this big tech that everything should be fine," said Sam Kehinde, who organized the protest as part of a larger campaign targeted at major tech companies. "There should be good roads, infrastructure and good-paying jobs. But that's not the case. Big tech has beautiful campuses, beautiful offices. But the general public's community suffers." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/06/03/protestors-at-wwdc-say-apple-and-other-big-tech-firms-are-bad-neighbors/ https://missionlocal.org/2014/04/labor-union-to-cash-rich-apple-its-tax-time/ http://www.businessinsider.com/protestors-forced-apple-to-shut-down-san-francisco-store-2014-8 3) Last year community activists did the March to Heal the Valley and spoke to Apple and Google about reforming their corporate policies to become responsible corporate neighbors. More info here... http://www.siliconvalleydebug.org/healthevalley/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7eIElvOBU8 Only 12 miles from Apple HQ is the largest homeless encampment in the U.S., called "the jungle". http://www.siliconvalleydebug.org/articles/2013/12/14/why-san-joses-largest-homeless-encampment-feels-occupy Together we can call upon the monster tech corporations to change their shameful behavior and becoming leaders in solving the social problems they are creating. Drew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Sep 8 12:29:07 2014 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 12:29:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Action Call for Overturning Citizens United In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On September 8, the U.S. Senate is scheduled to vote on SJ Res 19, the Democracy for All constitutional amendment that would overturn Citizens United. It would restore the voice of American voters by allowing reasonable limits on campaign spending. SJR 19 would make history if a majority of the Senate votes for it, even if it doesn?t get the 2/3 needed to pass. Plus, it will show exactly which senators stand with voters -- and which stand with the wealthy interests who want to buy elections with unlimited money. Sign the petition thanking Senators Boxer and Feinstein for co-sponsoring and urging them to fight for it now. That's why I signed a petition to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA-1) and Sen. Barbara Boxer (CA-2), which says: "Senator Boxer and Senator Feinstein: Thank you for co-sponsoring SJ Res 19, the Democracy for All constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United. Please fight for it as hard as you can." Will you sign the petition too? 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Sep 9 12:57:11 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:57:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Burnout In-Reply-To: <540F5AA1.4000508@earthlink.net> References: <540F5AA1.4000508@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <540F5B97.5030709@earthlink.net> I recommend two articles to any activist, especially if not familiar with burnout. Dave Roberts wrote for Grist Magazine and took a whole year off to recover from burnout. A short description in an interview of Roberts: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/09/08/3564244/how-to-avoid-online-burnout-dave-roberts/ A long (and funny) description by Roberts himself: http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/media/Reboot-or-Die-Trying.html After reading the outsideonline article, I wonder if it would be better to snail mail paper copies. Ah, well ... ... Here's a related item, (at least I think it's related), an item about stress and productivity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerkes%E2%80%93Dodson_law Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Sep 11 09:44:45 2014 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:44:45 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Exploding Oil Trains in Fremont? Message-ID: Educational and Organizing event Thursday, 9/11/14 7:00 pm Concerned that the oil trains slated to run through the East Bay pose a local threat from spills and explosions and a global threat because the oil they carry will contribute to climate change? Then please come to the educational and organizing event titled, "Exploding Oil Trains in Fremont?" The event will be held on Thursday, September 11, 7:00-9:00 p.m., at the Fremont Senior Center, 40086 Paseo Padre Parkway. The event is free, though donations will be accepted to help cover expenses. The facility is wheelchair accessible. http://eotif.weebly.com/ Concerned that the oil trains slated to run through the East Bay pose a local threat from spills and explosions and a global threat because the oil they carry will contribute to climate change? Then please come to the educational and organizing event titled, "Exploding Oil Trains in Fremont?" The event will be held on Thursday, September 11, 7:00-9:00 p.m., at the Fremont Senior Center, 40086 Paseo Padre Parkway. The event is free, though donations will be accepted to help cover expenses. The facility is wheelchair accessible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Sat Sep 13 17:27:32 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 17:27:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Petitions for mail processing plants In-Reply-To: <9D.24.17105.24794145@outbound.moveon.org> References: <9D.24.17105.24794145@outbound.moveon.org> Message-ID: <1410654452.16662.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:13 PM, Jerry Stidman wrote: Dear Caroline: Today we are asking you to sign and share a group of five petitions for mail processing plants scheduled to close in 2015. These petitions also have provisions to protect six day delivery of mail, rural post offices, keeping strong service standards and repealing the requirement to pre-fund retiree healthcare at levels mandated in HR 6407. The link to these petitions follow: PETITIONS We challenge each and everyone who has a free moment this week to call your Congressman at 202-224-3121. Ask them to support keeping our nation's mail processing plants open, support keeping strong service standards (overnight delivery of local mail) and six day delivery of mail. We need more letters for our mailing campaign. We are coordinating meetings with the media and our elected officials in various areas. Please send your cards and letters to: SAVE OUR POST OFFICE, P.O. Box 5041, Terre Haute, IN 47805. Thank you! Jerry ________________________________ This message was sent to caroline yacoub by Jerry Stidman through MoveOn's public petition website. MoveOn Political Action licensed and paid for this service, but does not endorse contents of this message. To unsubscribe or report this email as inappropriate, click here: http://petitions.moveon.org/unsub.html?i=25203-500711-cQ7OYc Want to make a donation? MoveOn is entirely funded by our 8 million members?no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Sep 16 23:34:58 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:34:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Regarding Prop 45 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1410935698.22440.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:19 PM, Gerald Hunt wrote: Enclosed is a LA Times commentary from Michael Hiltzik about the Board Members of Covered California which forms the basis of some of my comments in the email below. Gerry From:Gerald Hunt [mailto:gwhunt97 at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:29 PM To: 'boardcomments at covered.ca.gov' Subject: Regarding Prop 45 I am very surprised and troubled by the position taken by three Board members objecting to Insurance Commissioner Jones? Prop 45. I am a retired CPA and I have been taking insulin since I passed my CPA license 42 years ago. I had enormous problems getting health insurance, but I am a Vietnam Veteran so my fallback position has been to get accepted as a qualified patient in the VA healthcare system. After 42 years I am not experiencing any side effects of the diabetic condition, but I am experiencing great anger at the positions of Ms. Kennedy, Ms. Dooley, and Ms. Belshe in opposition to private health insurance premium rate review by the state Insurance Commissioner. I have spent 42 years managing my diabetic healthcare without any assistance from private health insurers who denied me care because of my pre-existing condition. I have worked in corporate finance, with a specialty of cost and process analysis for over 20 years, and installed or modified employee health benefit plans at three companies. I worked in Europe, England, Scotland, Portugal, and Germany for six years, and received superb medical care during those years My involvement with the private health insurance industry since my graduation from University (as a Price Waterhouse auditor) has proven over and over again that their primary business model is capitalizing deception. The industry has the overwhelming resources to influence regulators and legislators with deceptive scenarios that are deceptively simple but are seldom factually successful. The public has been paying the price for this deception since the Teddy Roosevelt administration. I have traced historical documents that far back. Being a finance guy with 40 years in the trenches I know how easy it is to manipulate financial reports to show the picture that is favorable rather than factual. That is specifically why the public needs very close oversight and scrutiny of any financial background supporting requests for increases in premium rates and especially at the cost reports segregating medical losses, selling, marketing, electronic data, and administrative costs. I review that NAIC website routinely to see how closely the Insurance Commissioners are monitoring the industry?s reporting. The legislation creating the structure of the health insurance exchange does not provide for any of that oversight, and to the best of my knowledge the three Board Members have not to date suggested any changes that would provide such oversight. There is considerable documentation of Commissioner Jones? effort to reach a compromise on responsibility for oversight without success. The three ladies have been appointed to positions with a responsibility to provide the public with professional, skillful oversight, but the public documentation shows these three members are more interested in being insurance company shills than in their public oversight responsibility. It is exceedingly shameful! I have been involved with Health Care for All-California for the past 20 years, 18 of those years as state Treasurer. Gerald W. Hunt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 17 13:15:11 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:15:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Support a break through campaign in NY! In-Reply-To: <2036762175.612764396@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> References: <2036762175.612764396@wfc.wfcDB.reply.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: <5419EBCF.6080803@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jill Stein Subject: Support a break through campaign in NY! Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Size: 24656 URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 19 00:46:06 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 00:46:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Krugman: Fighting Global Warming could be Cheap? In-Reply-To: <541BDE74.6010205@earthlink.net> References: <541BDE74.6010205@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <541BDF3E.8060603@earthlink.net> FYI, "Could Fighting Global Warming Be Cheap and Free?" by Paul Krugman: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/opinion/paul-krugman-could-fighting-global-warming-be-cheap-and-free.html Last paragraph: "So here?s what you need to know: Climate despair is all wrong. The idea that economic growth and climate action are incompatible may sound hardheaded and realistic, but it?s actually a fuzzy-minded misconception. If we ever get past the special interests and ideology that have blocked action to save the planet, we?ll find that it?s cheaper and easier than almost anyone imagines." NOTE: According to the website: "A version of this op-ed appears in print on September 19, 2014, on page A29 of the New York edition with the headline: Errors And Emissions." Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Sep 22 17:12:29 2014 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:12:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda Message-ID: <1411431149.49570.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi there. I hope the Climate March has inspired all of us to come up with great things to do. The Green meeting is this Thursday. I believe we have a speaker from 350Silicon Valley, so please come at 7:00. Also, please send your agenda items to me so I can get the thing done and make copies. Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Tue Sep 23 21:37:12 2014 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 21:37:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Need volunteers to ask candidates to "pledge to amend" In-Reply-To: <20140923005137.D1D8F4CB61@utility.ontrk.com> References: <20140923005137.D1D8F4CB61@utility.ontrk.com> Message-ID: <54224A78.1090603@effectivedefense.org> Hello, Caroline, et al.: ALL: The "Pledge to amend" coalition is looking for volunteers to contact candidates to ask them to sign a pledge to support a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United. This coalition includes people from many groups who supported passage of Prop 49, which would have asked voters to ask Congress for such a constitutional amendment. CAROLINE: Could you please give me 5 minutes on the agenda for Thursday to provide an update on this? Hope to see you Thursday evening at 7 PM for a 350 presentation followed at 7:30 by our regular monthly meeting. Best Wishes, Spencer -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Prop. 49 Follow-up meeting on Saturday Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:51:37 -0700 From: Eitan Fenson (scc-mta) Reply-To: Eitan Fenson (scc-mta) To: Spencer Graves SANTA CLARA COUNTY PLEDGE TO AMEND CAMPAIGN ?MAKING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS & CANDIDATES RESPONSIBLE? Sat., Sept. 27 at 3 PM AACI, 2400 Moorpark Ave., Room 210, San Jose This broad Prop 49 coalition is asking local elected officials and candidates to sign a pledge in support of the 28th Amendment language. The request along with background information and a pledge form have been sent to 187 federal, state, county, and city elected officials and candidates within Santa Clara County. Democracy activists are urgently needed to contact these elected representatives and candidates before the September 30 date given to them. Contact me at eitan at scc-mta.org. Contact information for your non-responsive elected representative and candidates will be forwarded to you. On September 27 the Prop 49 / MTA Pledge to Amend Campaign will consider how to publicize the results received by September 30: how should we publicize the supporters and opponents of 28th Amendment language? Social media, e-mailings, letters to the editor, etc. will all be considered. In addition, we are planning a January 2015 event denouncing the 5th Anniversary of Citizen?s United. According to the Prop 49 campaign, candidates who support the 28th Amendment language get a boost at the polls of 2-4% over their opponents.This is so because the vast majority of Americans, Democrats, Republicans, and independents alike, are sick and tired of the corrupting influence of big money in political campaigns and the undue influence of corporations over our lives. Contact Richard Hobbs at 408-460-2999 richhobbs at msn.com, Eitan Fenson at 408-459-8549 eitan at scc-mta.org, or Gerry Hunt at 408-266-0107 gwhunt97 at comcast.net . to unsubscribe: http://scc-mta.org/civicrm/mailing/optout?reset=1&jid=761&qid=163616&h=fb39962b77f60865 From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Wed Sep 24 06:09:26 2014 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:09:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest In-Reply-To: <540F35BE.5020406@charter.net> References: <540F35BE.5020406@charter.net> Message-ID: <8792d803-1d2d-4c8b-b263-a1597f0da698@email.android.com> Yep that was us, and I got the audio from KGO and intend to pay it when I get the chance. My blog post was republished (slightly edited) at http://www.popularresistance.org/apple-could-lead-if-it-had-an-iconscience/ Greenvolution is NOW! Drew On September 9, 2014 10:15:42 AM PDT, Wes Rolley wrote: >Listened to morning news on KTVU (Channel 2) today and their story re: >Apple Announcement included a segment on a "planned protest" organized >by the De Anza Greens and joined by ...... > >Not sure who got the word out, but good work. > >KGO story had no such reference. >-- >"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, >then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In speaking with Richard Hobbs today he indicated that one of > 2-3 "polycentric" gatherings of the U.S. Social Forum is being planned > for > the end of June 2015. I went to the Detroit USSF gathering in Detroit a > few years back. It was a very impressive gathering of many different > civic/social movement organizations. I think it would be something we > could > organize around for building the GPSCC and that the GPCA probably should > be > involved. Planning appaarently is under way... > Warner From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Wed Sep 24 11:13:59 2014 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:13:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] consider joining Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy Message-ID: <542309E7.1060307@effectivedefense.org> Hello, Caroline, et al.: ALL: What do you think about becoming a "Coalition Partner" of "Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy" (www.openthegovernment.org)? "Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy" provides a web portal that invites interested people to comment and coordinate action on currently considered legislation. A major issue for them right now is S. 2520, the FOIA Improvement Act, which reportedly would further limit the ability of government bureaucrats to hide documents they don't want published. I propose to learn more about the procedures for becoming a "Coalition Partner" of "Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy" and report same to this group with a proposal for next steps at our next meeting. CAROLINE: Could you please place on the agenda for tomorrow evening, 'Proposed: Spencer is authorized to ask about the requirements for becoming a "Coalition Partner" of "Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy" and report any recommendations for next steps to sosfbay-discuss and our next monthly meeting.' (5 minutes?) Thanks, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PhD Executive Director Effective Defense 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.effectivedefense.org From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Wed Sep 24 11:26:28 2014 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:26:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] creating campaign plans? Message-ID: <54230CD4.5090409@effectivedefense.org> Hello, Caroline, et al.: At the risk of making a pest of myself, I'd like to suggest one other agenda item for tomorrow evening: What do you think about engaging in a more formal planning process for our key foci (currently environment and universal health care)? I just found a 388-page "Campaign Toolkit" that seems to provide an excellent discussion of steps to plan and execute effective campaigns. It's freely downloadable from the IFEX, the International Freedom of Expression Exchange (www.ifex.org/campaign_toolkit). If you agree, we could also discuss how to use this, e.g., a few minutes in each of the next few monthly meetings vs. in separate meetings devoted to environment and health care. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PhD Executive Director Effective Defense 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.effectivedefense.org From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Sep 24 17:06:19 2014 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:06:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest In-Reply-To: <8792d803-1d2d-4c8b-b263-a1597f0da698@email.android.com> References: <540F35BE.5020406@charter.net>, <8792d803-1d2d-4c8b-b263-a1597f0da698@email.android.com> Message-ID: There was a SEIU protest outside Apple's flagship store in Palo Alto last week that went completely blacked out by the media. http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/22/street-level---the-unreported-news--seiu-shuts-down-university-avenue#comment_form Of course it would have been nice if SEIU could have provided some photos and/or videos to go with the story of the blackout. SEIU wants to organize the janitors and the security guards at Apple. Currently those functions are served by non-union employees of outside contractors--and working conditions are poor. From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:09:26 -0700 To: wrolley at charter.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest Yep that was us, and I got the audio from KGO and intend to pay it when I get the chance. My blog post was republished (slightly edited) at http://www.popularresistance.org/apple-could-lead-if-it-had-an-iconscience/ Greenvolution is NOW! Drew On September 9, 2014 10:15:42 AM PDT, Wes Rolley wrote: Listened to morning news on KTVU (Channel 2) today and their story re: Apple Announcement included a segment on a "planned protest" organized by the De Anza Greens and joined by ...... Not sure who got the word out, but good work. KGO story had no such reference. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - Roberto Clemente sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Wed Sep 24 22:39:56 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 22:39:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest In-Reply-To: References: <540F35BE.5020406@charter.net>, <8792d803-1d2d-4c8b-b263-a1597f0da698@email.android.com> Message-ID: <5423AAAC.5090306@structuremonitoring.com> Are you aware that that SEIU sabotaged SB 52, the California Disclose Act, which would have required political ads to prominently identify the primary funders (e.g., David Koch vs. Citizens for Improving Democracy)? According to salon.com, in opposing SB 52 the SEIU stated, ?There is no reason to make any additional changes". "Other unions followed SEIU?s lead. In an example of the need for transparency, it?s hard to find formal opposition to the DISCLOSE Act on labor websites. However, Salon has obtained opposition letters from CTA, the California School Employees Association and the state Labor Federation, a coalition of over 1,200 AFL-CIO and Change to Win union affiliates. CTA even argued SB 52 would violate the Constitution?s free speech clause, a nod to the Citizens United ruling, even though the Supreme Court in that case affirmed disclosure as a viable method to police campaign spending." (www.salon.com/2014/08/27/principles_be_damned_how_campaign_finance_reform_just_got_crushed_in_a_liberal_state) Can someone explain to me why we should support an organization that opposes democracy by supporting the right of unions and big money to engage in deceitful political advertizing? We need a strong, intelligent labor movement. However, I for one will not support any individual or organization like SEIU that seem committed to deceit. Organized labor in the US has been losing ground for 40 years. I'd like an honest discussion of why people think that has happened and what can be done to reverse that trend. These same 40 years have seen increased consolidation of ownership of the commercial media with the virtual elimination of investigative journalism from the nation's airways, where most people get their news and world view. Any media organization that sells advertising sells behavior change in their audience to advertisers. Increased consolidation in ownership means reduced competition for audience -- and increased leverage for advertisers in shaping the editorial content. Labor does not play in that arena. (This helps explain Brian's observation that the SEIU Apple protest got zero coverage in the media.) Also, do labor unions contribute to all credible candidates or only those (usually Democrats) who support their political agenda? Big money contributes to all credible candidates, and they win no matter which candidate wins. If labor doesn't do that, they lose when their candidates lose. I'd like to see organized labor refocus their current political campaign budget to investigative journalism and not spend a penny on political campaigns. They could increase the impact of their investigative journalism by sponsoring debates between leading figures on issues of the day organized by their own investigative journalists and disseminated over their own YouTube and similar channels. Unions could then encourage their own members to support candidates and issues -- sometimes with different union member supporting different candidates in the same race. This could then give them "access" no matter who wins. If they did this, I believe they would change the political environment in the US today so much it would more than offset what they would lose by stopping their purchases of deceitful advertising. However, I have not researched this enough to be confident of everything said above. I would appreciate further comments on this. Best Wishes, Spencer On 9/24/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: > There was a SEIU protest outside Apple's flagship store in Palo Alto last week that went completely blacked out > by the media. > > http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/22/street-level---the-unreported-news--seiu-shuts-down-university-avenue#comment_form > > Of course it would have been nice if SEIU could have provided some photos and/or videos to go with the story of > the blackout. > > SEIU wants to organize the janitors and the security guards at Apple. Currently those functions are served by > non-union employees of outside contractors--and working conditions are poor. > > > > > > > > From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:09:26 -0700 > To: wrolley at charter.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest > > Yep that was us, and I got the audio from KGO and intend to pay it when I get the chance. My blog post was republished (slightly edited) at http://www.popularresistance.org/apple-could-lead-if-it-had-an-iconscience/ > > > > Greenvolution is NOW! > > > > Drew > > On September 9, 2014 10:15:42 AM PDT, Wes Rolley wrote: > > > > > > > Listened to morning news on KTVU (Channel 2) today and their story > re: Apple Announcement included a segment on a "planned protest" > organized by the De Anza Greens and joined by ...... > > > > Not sure who got the word out, but good work. > > > > KGO story had no such reference. > > -- > > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" > - Roberto Clemente > > > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Sep 25 07:05:02 2014 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:05:02 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest In-Reply-To: <5423AAAC.5090306@structuremonitoring.com> References: <540F35BE.5020406@charter.net>, <8792d803-1d2d-4c8b-b263-a1597f0da698@email.android.com> , <5423AAAC.5090306@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: I wasn't soliciting support. I was reporting the facts. SEIU did the Democrats an enormous favor to the Democrats by taking the blame for the third consecutive torpedoing of the California DISCLOSE Act so the Democrats didn't have to sabotage it themselves as they did in the previous two incarnations of the bill. How exactly SEIU had the power to foreclose the issue has never been to my knowledge explained. Do we have any actual evidence that SEIU opposition was the controlling factor, or is this simply a cover story? The DISCLOSE Act was popular among SEIU rank and file, and local leaders, and I suspect that any order from SEIU leadership about opposition to the bill would have been very costly internally. Perhaps SEIU's legal counsel advised them that he/she could not advocate that they support any legislation that would limit their power to engage in anonymous political ad campaigns. Of course he or she couldn't. His or her duty is to the narrow interests of the client (and to her own interests in serving those narrow interests unswervingly), not to the greater public good. The obligation of SEIU leadership is to recognize that the opinion of their highly-paid and highly-self-interested legal technician should be regarded as merely advisory. Perhaps SEIU got some deal from the Democrats for this favor, or from the CA Chamber of Commerce. Maybe payoffs to individuals were involved. Maybe the story that SEIU torpedoed the bill is a myth offered by Democrats who lacked the courage to overtly oppose the bill this time. I can only speculate. Politics is complicated. If a stressed-out friend lets me down now and then, that may alter the friendship but it doesn't have to destroy it. Brian Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 22:39:56 -0700 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com To: snug.bug at hotmail.com; rainbeaufriend at riseup.net; wrolley at charter.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest Are you aware that that SEIU sabotaged SB 52, the California Disclose Act, which would have required political ads to prominently identify the primary funders (e.g., David Koch vs. Citizens for Improving Democracy)? According to salon.com, in opposing SB 52 the SEIU stated, ?There is no reason to make any additional changes". "Other unions followed SEIU?s lead. In an example of the need for transparency, it?s hard to find formal opposition to the DISCLOSE Act on labor websites. However, Salon has obtained opposition letters from CTA, the California School Employees Association and the state Labor Federation, a coalition of over 1,200 AFL-CIO and Change to Win union affiliates. CTA even argued SB 52 would violate the Constitution?s free speech clause, a nod to the Citizens United ruling, even though the Supreme Court in that case affirmed disclosure as a viable method to police campaign spending." (www.salon.com/2014/08/27/principles_be_damned_how_campaign_finance_reform_just_got_crushed_in_a_liberal_state) Can someone explain to me why we should support an organization that opposes democracy by supporting the right of unions and big money to engage in deceitful political advertizing? We need a strong, intelligent labor movement. However, I for one will not support any individual or organization like SEIU that seem committed to deceit. Organized labor in the US has been losing ground for 40 years. I'd like an honest discussion of why people think that has happened and what can be done to reverse that trend. These same 40 years have seen increased consolidation of ownership of the commercial media with the virtual elimination of investigative journalism from the nation's airways, where most people get their news and world view. Any media organization that sells advertising sells behavior change in their audience to advertisers. Increased consolidation in ownership means reduced competition for audience -- and increased leverage for advertisers in shaping the editorial content. Labor does not play in that arena. (This helps explain Brian's observation that the SEIU Apple protest got zero coverage in the media.) Also, do labor unions contribute to all credible candidates or only those (usually Democrats) who support their political agenda? Big money contributes to all credible candidates, and they win no matter which candidate wins. If labor doesn't do that, they lose when their candidates lose. I'd like to see organized labor refocus their current political campaign budget to investigative journalism and not spend a penny on political campaigns. They could increase the impact of their investigative journalism by sponsoring debates between leading figures on issues of the day organized by their own investigative journalists and disseminated over their own YouTube and similar channels. Unions could then encourage their own members to support candidates and issues -- sometimes with different union member supporting different candidates in the same race. This could then give them "access" no matter who wins. If they did this, I believe they would change the political environment in the US today so much it would more than offset what they would lose by stopping their purchases of deceitful advertising. However, I have not researched this enough to be confident of everything said above. I would appreciate further comments on this. Best Wishes, Spencer On 9/24/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: There was a SEIU protest outside Apple's flagship store in Palo Alto last week that went completely blacked out by the media. http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/22/street-level---the-unreported-news--seiu-shuts-down-university-avenue#comment_form Of course it would have been nice if SEIU could have provided some photos and/or videos to go with the story of the blackout. SEIU wants to organize the janitors and the security guards at Apple. Currently those functions are served by non-union employees of outside contractors--and working conditions are poor. From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:09:26 -0700 To: wrolley at charter.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest Yep that was us, and I got the audio from KGO and intend to pay it when I get the chance. My blog post was republished (slightly edited) at http://www.popularresistance.org/apple-could-lead-if-it-had-an-iconscience/ Greenvolution is NOW! Drew On September 9, 2014 10:15:42 AM PDT, Wes Rolley wrote: Listened to morning news on KTVU (Channel 2) today and their story re: Apple Announcement included a segment on a "planned protest" organized by the De Anza Greens and joined by ...... Not sure who got the word out, but good work. KGO story had no such reference. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - Roberto Clemente sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Sep 25 07:55:18 2014 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:55:18 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest In-Reply-To: References: <540F35BE.5020406@charter.net>, <8792d803-1d2d-4c8b-b263-a1597f0da698@email.android.com> , <5423AAAC.5090306@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <54242CD6.80508@structuremonitoring.com> Thanks very much Brian: I need to be more precise in stating what is known, which means being more tentative about its effects. sg On 9/25/2014 7:05 AM, Brian wrote: > I wasn't soliciting support. I was reporting the facts. > > SEIU did the Democrats an enormous favor to the Democrats by taking the blame for the third consecutive > torpedoing of the California DISCLOSE Act so the Democrats didn't have to sabotage it themselves as they > did in the previous two incarnations of the bill. > > How exactly SEIU had the power to foreclose the issue has never been to my knowledge explained. Do we > have any actual evidence that SEIU opposition was the controlling factor, or is this simply a cover story? > The DISCLOSE Act was popular among SEIU rank and file, and local leaders, and I suspect that any order > from SEIU leadership about opposition to the bill would have been very costly internally. > > Perhaps SEIU's legal counsel advised them that he/she could not advocate that they support any legislation > that would limit their power to engage in anonymous political ad campaigns. Of course he or she couldn't. > His or her duty is to the narrow interests of the client (and to her own interests in serving those narrow > interests unswervingly), not to the greater public good. The obligation of SEIU leadership is to recognize > that the opinion of their highly-paid and highly-self-interested legal technician should be regarded as merely > advisory. > > Perhaps SEIU got some deal from the Democrats for this favor, or from the CA Chamber of Commerce. Maybe > payoffs to individuals were involved. Maybe the story that SEIU torpedoed the bill is a myth offered by > Democrats who lacked the courage to overtly oppose the bill this time. > > I can only speculate. Politics is complicated. If a stressed-out friend lets me down now and then, that may > alter the friendship but it doesn't have to destroy it. > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 22:39:56 -0700 > From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com > To: snug.bug at hotmail.com; rainbeaufriend at riseup.net; wrolley at charter.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest > > > > > > > Are you aware that that SEIU > sabotaged SB 52, the California Disclose Act, which would have > required political ads to prominently identify the primary funders > (e.g., David Koch vs. Citizens for Improving Democracy)? > According to salon.com, in opposing SB 52 the SEIU stated, ?There > is no reason to make any additional changes". "Other unions > followed SEIU?s lead. In an example of the need for transparency, > it?s hard to find formal opposition to the DISCLOSE Act on labor > websites. However, Salon has obtained opposition letters from CTA, > the California School Employees Association and the state Labor > Federation, a coalition of over 1,200 AFL-CIO and Change to Win > union affiliates. CTA even argued SB 52 would violate the > Constitution?s free speech clause, a nod to the Citizens United > ruling, even though the Supreme Court in that case affirmed > disclosure as a viable method to police campaign spending." > (www.salon.com/2014/08/27/principles_be_damned_how_campaign_finance_reform_just_got_crushed_in_a_liberal_state) > > > > > > Can someone explain to me why we should support an > organization that opposes democracy by supporting the right of > unions and big money to engage in deceitful political > advertizing? > > > > > > We need a strong, intelligent labor movement. However, I > for one will not support any individual or organization like SEIU > that seem committed to deceit. > > > > > > Organized labor in the US has been losing ground for 40 > years. I'd like an honest discussion of why people think that has > happened and what can be done to reverse that trend. These same > 40 years have seen increased consolidation of ownership of the > commercial media with the virtual elimination of investigative > journalism from the nation's airways, where most people get their > news and world view. Any media organization that sells > advertising sells behavior change in their audience to > advertisers. Increased consolidation in ownership means reduced > competition for audience -- and increased leverage for advertisers > in shaping the editorial content. Labor does not play in that > arena. (This helps explain Brian's observation that the SEIU > Apple protest got zero coverage in the media.) > > > > > > Also, do labor unions contribute to all credible candidates > or only those (usually Democrats) who support their political > agenda? Big money contributes to all credible candidates, and > they win no matter which candidate wins. If labor doesn't do > that, they lose when their candidates lose. > > > > > > I'd like to see organized labor refocus their current > political campaign budget to investigative journalism and not > spend a penny on political campaigns. They could increase the > impact of their investigative journalism by sponsoring debates > between leading figures on issues of the day organized by their > own investigative journalists and disseminated over their own > YouTube and similar channels. Unions could then encourage their > own members to support candidates and issues -- sometimes with > different union member supporting different candidates in the same > race. This could then give them "access" no matter who wins. If > they did this, I believe they would change the political > environment in the US today so much it would more than offset what > they would lose by stopping their purchases of deceitful > advertising. > > > > > > However, I have not researched this enough to be confident > of everything said above. I would appreciate further comments on > this. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Spencer > > > > > > On 9/24/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > There was a SEIU protest outside Apple's flagship store in Palo Alto last week that went completely blacked out > by the media. > > http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/22/street-level---the-unreported-news--seiu-shuts-down-university-avenue#comment_form > > Of course it would have been nice if SEIU could have provided some photos and/or videos to go with the story of > the blackout. > > SEIU wants to organize the janitors and the security guards at Apple. Currently those functions are served by > non-union employees of outside contractors--and working conditions are poor. > > > > > > > > From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 06:09:26 -0700 > To: wrolley at charter.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Apple Protest > > Yep that was us, and I got the audio from KGO and intend to pay it when I get the chance. My blog post was republished (slightly edited) at http://www.popularresistance.org/apple-could-lead-if-it-had-an-iconscience/ > > > > Greenvolution is NOW! > > > > Drew > > On September 9, 2014 10:15:42 AM PDT, Wes Rolley wrote: > > > > > > > Listened to morning news on KTVU (Channel 2) today and their story > re: Apple Announcement included a segment on a "planned protest" > organized by the De Anza Greens and joined by ...... > > > > Not sure who got the word out, but good work. > > > > KGO story had no such reference. > > -- > > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" > - Roberto Clemente > > > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web: www.structuremonitoring.com > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Sep 25 11:03:23 2014 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 11:03:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Save 80 gallons of water per week Message-ID: I posted to the broad cal-forum list, and instead my post was tranferred to the G-C-F forum where "nutjobs" are permitted to post about 9/11. I have developed a sustainable protocol by which male Greens can pee into a modified TIDE bottle, sequestering their nitrogenous wastes so they may be flushed efficiently. Since I work at home as a freelance editor, I pee almost exclusively at home. I save at least 80 gallons of water a week by pissing into my bottle. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(10 min) 8:10-8:30 Discussion of Peoples' Climate March, the Oakland Rally, and ideas for future actions by us and in coalition ( Tian, Gerry, Caroline, Spencer--Tool Kit-- 20 minutes) 8:30-8:40 Letter Writing and Schwag production (Caroline 10 min) 8:40-8:45 Contacting Candidates to sign a pledge to support an amendment to overturn Citizens United. (Spencer--5 min) 8:45-8:50 Proposed: Spencer is authorized to ask about the requirements for becoming a "Coalition Partner" of "Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy." (Spencer 5 Min) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spencer -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Prop. 49 Follow-up meeting on Saturday Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:51:37 -0700 From: Eitan Fenson (scc-mta) Reply-To: Eitan Fenson (scc-mta) To: Spencer Graves SANTA CLARA COUNTY PLEDGE TO AMEND CAMPAIGN ?MAKING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS & CANDIDATES RESPONSIBLE? Sat., Sept. 27 at 3 PM AACI, 2400 Moorpark Ave., Room 210, San Jose This broad Prop 49 coalition is asking local elected officials and candidates to sign a pledge in support of the 28th Amendment language. The request along with background information and a pledge form have been sent to 187 federal, state, county, and city elected officials and candidates within Santa Clara County. Democracy activists are urgently needed to contact these elected representatives and candidates before the September 30 date given to them. Contact me at eitan at scc-mta.org. Contact information for your non-responsive elected representative and candidates will be forwarded to you. On September 27 the Prop 49 / MTA Pledge to Amend Campaign will consider how to publicize the results received by September 30: how should we publicize the supporters and opponents of 28th Amendment language? Social media, e-mailings, letters to the editor, etc. will all be considered. In addition, we are planning a January 2015 event denouncing the 5th Anniversary of Citizen?s United. According to the Prop 49 campaign, candidates who support the 28th Amendment language get a boost at the polls of 2-4% over their opponents.This is so because the vast majority of Americans, Democrats, Republicans, and independents alike, are sick and tired of the corrupting influence of big money in political campaigns and the undue influence of corporations over our lives. Contact Richard Hobbs at 408-460-2999 richhobbs at msn.com, Eitan Fenson at 408-459-8549 eitan at scc-mta.org, or Gerry Hunt at 408-266-0107 gwhunt97 at comcast.net . to unsubscribe: http://scc-mta.org/civicrm/mailing/optout?reset=1&jid=761&qid=163616&h=fb39962b77f60865 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Sep 25 21:09:49 2014 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:09:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of September 25, 2014, meeting of the Green Party of Santa Clara County, CA In-Reply-To: <1411669808.54009.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1411669808.54009.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5424E70D.1000107@prodsyse.com> On 9/25/2014 11:30 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > 7:00 Lisa Altieri will make a presentation on how to go CO2 Free. goco2free.org Grass roots organizing around climate for over 20 years. Creates custom data tools for business applications. Also reading on public perceptions on climate + how to motivate behavior changes e.g., in smoking and diabetes. Fear and guilt do not work to motivate people do change. What works is positive messaging: Creating a vision of an attractive future. Creating plans also work. Crowdfunding via Indiagogo. Playing video on the crowdfunding page. Prof. Mark Jacobson, Stanford says we need to do 3 things. 1. change to carbon free electricity. 2. Fuel switch. 3. Be efficient. 3 steps do not address methane, which is the second largest piece from CO2. Q: subsidies for fossil fuels? Greens table, e.g., Junior State @ Santa Clara Mariott in November. Radio & TV? San Jos? Peace & Justice Center low power radio. CreaTVsj.org -> your video. Program in 2 different versions: One is a community version -- local meetings, impacts, ... . Plus a general site. > > 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify > Facilitator: Sandy > Note Taker: Spencer > , Time Keeper: Tian > , Vibes Watcher: Caroline > , and Agenda Preparer for next month: Jim Doyle. > . (5 min) > > 7:35 Introductions, announcements, additions or corrections to Agenda (10 minutes) Blair, Tian, Sandy, Caroline, Jim Doyle, Spencer, Drew > > 7:45 Treasurer's report and hat passing (Jim 5 min) Balance prior: $966.31. 9 to 5: $32 net > > 7:50-8:00 Report on tabling at 9 To 5 Conference (Jim and Caroline 10 min) Caroline: Wage theft. Jim: Living wage. & preparing for organizing. Currently targeting the County of Santa Clara. $4.4 billion budget $2.1 billion contracts. 9 to 5 and other organizations are working on Labor Council, Working Partnerships USA, Human Relations Written up in the Business Journal. San Jos? has a Living Wage ordinance of ~$15. Sandy produced testimony that with current housing prices, a living wage is $32. > > 8:00-8:10 Brian Haberley will make a plea for support of a resolution for a moratorium on Fracking in Palo Alto. (10 min) Blair: Fracking question: About 6 months ago, there was a feeling that fracking had been ended or seriously reduced in CA. Now in the past month or two, someone is trying again to get more fracking in CA. Tian: Exxon or Chevron is pushing fracking. A group in San Benito County is working on fracking. Guy from Holister came for the film Gasland. > 8:10-8:30 Discussion of Peoples' Climate March, the Oakland Rally, and ideas for future actions by us and in coalition ( Tian, Gerry, Caroline, Spencer--Tool Kit-- 20 minutes) Gerry attended a rally Sunday. Caroline: Merc News: "Tens of thousands of people took to the streets in New York and other cities around the world." "Corporate leaders speak on climate." Tian: ~500 in Oakland. "The effect of leave it in the ground." Pedal power volunteers provided the electricity for the music. Art was better than in the past but no watershed of increased public participation. There was about as many people as the location could comfortably handle. 8:30: Campaign for Healthy California (CHC) Last month's meeting: Approved we join a Campaign for a Healthy California. They need principal and secondary Liaison: Sandy is Principal. Caroline is secondary. CHAM is working on a downtown health care fair with Single Payer Coalition, ... . November 7. 8:50: DeAnza Apple protest: Apple took over the DeAnza campus and had a secret agreement. The staff who signed the agreement could not admit who the contract was with. There was a 3 story construction for a 1 or 2-day (product launch?) event, and no one was allowed to discuss what it was about. heartbeatearth.wordpress.com and popularresistance.org and maybe later at greenshadowcabinet.us. > 8:30-8:40 Letter Writing and Schwag production (Caroline 10 min) Saturday: Letter writing party at Caroline's house. She will have sample letters. There will be other issues about which you can write. She will provide stationary, stamps, ... 2-6 PM. Need schwag for the Holiday Peace Fair. Tian will help make schwag. Will call Caroline. > > 8:40-8:45 Contacting Candidates to sign a pledge to support an amendment to overturn Citizens United. (Spencer--5 min) Come Saturday 3-5 AACI to learn their next steps. > > 8:45-8:50 Proposed: Spencer is authorized to ask about the requirements for becoming a "Coalition Partner" of "Americans for Less Secrecy, More Democracy." (Spencer 5 Min) > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org Fri Sep 26 11:41:20 2014 From: spencer.graves at effectivedefense.org (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:41:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] creating campaign plans? Message-ID: <5425B350.9000801@effectivedefense.org> Hello, All: We began a planning exercise last night following the 388-page "Campaign Toolkit" freely downloadable from the IFEX, the International Freedom of Expression Exchange (www.ifex.org/campaign_toolkit). Could someone suggest a way to make the notes from this discussion available some place where many people can edit and leave comments? If we do this right, the resulting documentation will become too unwieldy for an email, least of all for sosfbay-discuss with its limit on email length. The IFEX Campaign Toolkit describes a campaign in terms of 6 steps: [1] Build (select issue and plan campaign), [2] Fund, [3], Digitise, [4] Support, [5] Escalate, and [6] Tell. Below please find a discussion of the first part of stop 1. PHASE ONE. BUILD: "Building" starts with reviewing the core vision and mission of the organization and selecting specific issue(s) to work on. Sept. 25, we discussed three issues: * 1. Building the Green Party. * 2. Environment, especially global warming. * 3. Healthcare for all. The Campaign Toolkit asked how these issues relate to the organization's core vision and mission. The first two are in the name "Green". To evaluate the connection of healthcare to the Green vision and mission, it may help to recite the "four pillars that define Green politics: ecology, social justice, grassroots democracy, and non-violence." (Wikipedia, "Green politics) For me at least, healthcare for all is an important component of social justice. SUBSTEP 2. CAMPAIGN CYCLE WORKSHEET: The next step recommended by the Toolkit is a "campaign cycle worksheet", which requires answering two questions: 2 A. What specific problem or problems related to the larger issue will you focus your campaign on? 2 B. How do these problems align with your organisation?s core vision and mission? Caroline said that where ever she goes, there are people unhappy with the Republicans and Democrats. She then invites them to register Green. She also noted that Lisa Altieri (goco2free.org and 350.org) wants to be apolitical. Caroline noted that we could easily politicize their issue. SG: Nader (2014) Unstoppable (Nation Books) suggests that there are broad segments of the US population, including people registered Republicans and Libertarians -- especially conservative icons like Friedrich Hayak, who advocated regulatory mechanisms to prevent deception and monopolies and preserve health, and who also supported a comprehensive system of social insurance for sickness and accidents (pp. 161-162). This is most obvious for infectious diseases: We'd all be healthier if everyone else got all the effective vaccines and sought medical attention for any condition that might be contagious. I think many conservatives now know that the US lags the rest of the developed world in public health. We need to talk with conservatives to learn more about their concerns and what they would support. Regarding increasing voter registration and electoral participation, people noted that Prop 14 created problems for the Greens and other minority parties. Spencer said that Dave Kadlecek, who's with the Peace & Freedom Party, said that they conducted write-in campaigns for uncontested seats in the primary. SPENCER WILL ASK ABOUT THE RULES FOR CONDUCTING AN OFFICIAL WRITE-IN CAMPAIGN. ** WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT INVITING PEACE & FREEDOM PARTY MEMBERS TO OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS? We can share the agenda and collaborate on common issues. Only Green party members can vote to decide what the Greens want to do, and similarly for the Peace & Freedom party members. I should ask Kadlecek. Comments? Clearly, we can have a broader discussion of specific problems related to party registration, environment and health care including how they align with our Ten Key Values. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PhD Executive Director Effective Defense 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.effectivedefense.org From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 26 21:31:50 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 21:31:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 350.org buttons Message-ID: <54263DB6.2090301@earthlink.net> I would like to buy 20 more 350.org buttons. Can that be arranged? Gerry From perrysandy at aol.com Fri Sep 26 22:11:59 2014 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 01:11:59 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Discussion of This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein Message-ID: <8D1A828B35C97BD-B94-1BB3F@webmailstg-vd08.sysops.aol.com> Economics for Activists over the next two months will readand discuss the new Naomi Klein book, This Changes Everything: Capitalismvs. the Climate. This book, which was released just in time for the massiveSeptember 21 New York City climate march, addresses the worldwide movement forsurvival of the planet, and how it converges with and transforms the othergreat social movements of our times ? for peace, economic justice, humanrights, and democracy. In October we will read chapters 1 ? 6 of the book, with ameeting to discuss it at 7 pm on Monday, October 27. In November, we will read the second half, chapters 7through the conclusion, and meet for discussion at 7 pm on Monday, November 24. Economics for Activists is a practical, not an academic group,so our discussions are geared toward understanding and assessing the materialfrom the point of view of how to advance the various day-to-day struggles weare all involved in. The discussion meetings will be held at the San Jose Peaceand Justice Center, 48 S. Seventh Street, San Jose. We urge everyone concerned with the future of the planet toread this book and join us if possible. Although we have heard it is not yetavailable in public libraries, it can be found at bookstores and various onlinesites. A trailer about the book can be viewed at http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/08/17/changes-everything-trailer-naomi-kleins-coming-blockbuster -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 26 22:54:32 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 22:54:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Discussion of This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein In-Reply-To: <8D1A828B35C97BD-B94-1BB3F@webmailstg-vd08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1A828B35C97BD-B94-1BB3F@webmailstg-vd08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <54265118.5090505@earthlink.net> perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > Economics for Activists over the next two months will read and discuss > the new Naomi Klein book, _This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the > Climate_. This book, which was released just in time for the massive > September 21 New York City climate march, addresses the worldwide > movement for survival of the planet, and how it converges with and > transforms the other great social movements of our times ? for peace, > economic justice, human rights, and democracy. > In October we will read chapters 1 ? 6 of the book, with a meeting to > discuss it at 7 pm on Monday, October 27. > In November, we will read the second half, chapters 7 through the > conclusion, and meet for discussion at 7 pm on Monday, November 24. > Economics for Activists is a practical, not an academic group, so our > discussions are geared toward understanding and assessing the material > from the point of view of how to advance the various day-to-day > struggles we are all involved in. The discussion meetings will be held > at the San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 S. Seventh Street, San Jose. > We urge everyone concerned with the future of the planet to read this > book and join us if possible. Although we have heard it is not yet > available in public libraries, it can be found at bookstores and various > online sites. It's been "On Order" for quite a while (4 to 6 weeks) at the Palo Alto Library. There are 20 holds, mine is #3. I gave up waiting and bought it yesterday at Kepler's for $30. I am now up to page 66. It's very good so far. Tonight I was at a showing of "Surviving Progress". Someone there said "This Changes Everything" is a must read. Kepler's says it is selling well. They already ran out and had to reorder it once. Gerry > A trailer about the book can be viewed at > http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/08/17/changes-everything-trailer-naomi-kleins-coming-blockbuster > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 26 23:30:32 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:30:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] button materials Message-ID: <54265988.50305@sbcglobal.net> I have plenty of button material. At least 250 if not 500 sets. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 26 23:34:39 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:34:39 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC Paypal account Message-ID: <54265A7F.2010903@sbcglobal.net> My recent dealings with paypal have resulted in receiving this email from them: Hello Green Party of Santa Clara County, Our review is complete and we have restored your account. We appreciate your patience and thank you for your help in making PayPal the safest and most trusted online payment solution. Thanks, Chris PayPal Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 26 23:36:43 2014 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 23:36:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item Message-ID: <54265AFB.2090103@sbcglobal.net> future use of paypal account jim d 8 minutes From wrolley at charter.net Mon Sep 29 11:28:48 2014 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:28:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Discussion of This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein In-Reply-To: <54265118.5090505@earthlink.net> References: <8D1A828B35C97BD-B94-1BB3F@webmailstg-vd08.sysops.aol.com> <54265118.5090505@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5429A4E0.1020404@charter.net> You can listen to a podcast interview of Naomi Klein from the Inquiring Minds pages at MoJo. http://www.motherjones.com/category/secondary-tags/inquiring-minds Some intro ads about an event in the bay area, but the rest is good. Note: Interviewer Indre Viskontis is based in San Francisco and is both a neuroscientist and an opera singer. On 9/26/2014 10:54 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > perrysandy at aol.com wrote: >> Economics for Activists over the next two months will read and discuss >> the new Naomi Klein book, _This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the >> Climate_. This book, which was released just in time for the massive >> September 21 New York City climate march, addresses the worldwide >> movement for survival of the planet, and how it converges with and >> transforms the other great social movements of our times ? for peace, >> economic justice, human rights, and democracy. >> In October we will read chapters 1 ? 6 of the book, with a meeting to >> discuss it at 7 pm on Monday, October 27. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Sep 29 12:06:42 2014 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 12:06:42 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Bernie Sanders and Pathetic Democrats Message-ID: <5429ADC2.5050309@earthlink.net> FYI, a lengthy interview with Senator Bernie Sanders. "Bernie Sanders: Longterm Democratic strategy is 'pathetic'" "Senator Bernie Sanders sits down with Salon to talk inequality, the GOP, and whether or not he'll run for president" http://www.salon.com/2014/09/28/we_need_a_political_revolution_bernie_sanders_on_americas_broken_political_system/ Gerry