<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ask the candidate who proposed it, without reference to the platform.<DIV>I heard him (Cobb) propose it and I saw the confusion it caused among Greens.</DIV><DIV>Andrea</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Bob Alavi wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>Amen Cameron!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am much less involved in the mainstream of Greens than most of you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But the simple question inevitably crossed my mind when encountering that obscure and esoteric premise of "safe state"! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Which of the "Ten Key Value[s]" did it accomodate or enhance?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ba<BR><BR><B><I>"Cameron L. Spitzer" <<A href="mailto:cls@truffula.sj.ca.us">cls@truffula.sj.ca.us</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>>From: Andrea Dorey <BR>>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:28:17 -0700<BR>>To: Green South Bay Discussion <BR>>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Dare to Win"<BR><BR><BR>>At the risk of repeating myself, anyone who runs with the admonition <BR>>that he will not run in any state (county, city) that a well-known <BR>>major party does not have a big lead over the other major party, does <BR>>*not* "dare to win," and is costing his party its credibility. We <BR>>got the government we deserve, if we're really honest about it.<BR>>Andrea<BR><BR>I often hear an allegation that David Cobb ran only in<BR>"safe" states, or at least said that's what he was gonna do.<BR>The facts don't support that allegation, though.<BR>As far as I know, David was talked out of that "strategy"<BR>at the 2003 convention in DC, along with almost all of its<BR>proponents at the time, and he campaigned in every<BR>state where he was on the ballot.<BR><BR>I've been asking the people who make that allegation<BR>for a verifiable quote in a news story in a real<BR>newspaper, or perhaps a video interview that wasn't<BR>cut down to short phrases and reassembled for broadcast.<BR>It's been a couple of years now and they<BR>still haven't produced one. Not one. The closest they can<BR>get is a dramatized opinion piece on MSNBC's Web site.<BR><BR>It seems to me that's pretty close to proof by default<BR>that the Cobb campaign didn't actually pursue the<BR>"safe states" strategy that the corporate media<BR>*projected* onto it. It's one of those things<BR>that "everybody knows" that just isn't true.<BR>And the belief has done more damage to our party and<BR>movement than anything since the GPUSA chicanery.<BR><BR><BR>Cameron<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>sosfbay-discuss mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@marla.cagreens.org">sosfbay-discuss@marla.cagreens.org</A><BR>http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><HR size="1">New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. <A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman6/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.com">Call regular phones from your PC</A> and save big.</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>