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<font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">It may well
be a waste of time, but I decided to answer this comment sent by one
reactionary reader.<br>
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In any case it was good practice to summarize the impeachment arguments.<br>
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<td>Re: impeach bush letter -- an answer to your charges</td>
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<td>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:21:08 -0400</td>
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<td>Alan Kobrin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:alank@spotgrafix.com"><alank@spotgrafix.com></a></td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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<font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Mr. Dziadik,<br>
<br>
In reference to my letter about impeachment and censorship published in
the Jan. 28, 2008 Miami Herald, you admonished me "not [to] waste
newspaper space with such dribble." I think the word you wanted is <i>drivel</i>.
Aside from the personal insult which is not so important, there is a
very major principle you seem to be missing.<br>
<br>
I wish I knew how to make you SEE, so please indulge me, and follow
this through. It will be worth your time.<br>
<br>
1- America IS its Constitution. Without it, we have nothing special to
offer this planet. It is what set this "land of the free" apart
historically, why we call ourselves the "great experiment in democracy
(laws made by the people)". It is what spelled out the basis for a
democratic society, that which George Bush claims to be sending people
to kill and die for on the other side of the world.<br>
<br>
2- Built into that Constitution is a self-defense mechanism, the
process of impeachment (basically a congressional accusation, which
could lead to a trial). It was written there in order to prevent and
deal with possible abuses of power or breaches of the Constitution.<br>
<br>
3- The President, the Congress, and the Armed Forces ALL make an Oath
to that Constitution, not to the president, not to a political party,
not to a flag, but to the Constitution, to defend it against "all
enemies, foreign and domestic." <br>
<br>
4- If, when an abuse <i>seems</i> apparent, as is the case of the
George Bush administration (whether you agree with that notion or not),
impeachment is called for to <i>look into</i> the case to see whether
such abuse has really gone on. Conservative elements used impeachment
against Bill Clinton for absolutely frivolous reasons, in order not
only to harass and hinder him and attempt to remove a political
opponent from office, but also to get the public to "see" impeachment
as a mere <i>political partisan tool</i> </font></font><font size="+1"><font
face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">(instead of the safeguard of our
Constitution that it is)</font></font><font size="+1"><font
face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">--so it would not likely ever be
used against <i>them</i> in the future. Indeed, it seems they
succeeded in sullying the use of Impeachment itself.<br>
<br>
5- If, in cases of seeming great abuse, impeachment is <b><i>not</i> </b>called
upon (as required by our Constitution), then:<br>
a. our Constitution becomes "defenseless", and loses its means of
protection from abuse<br>
b. our Congress, by <b><i>not</i></b> invoking impeachment,
violates its Oath of Office to defend that Constitution, and becomes
complicit in possible wrong-doing<br>
c. The Constitution might never be protected again, and thus,
effectively America, as we know it, will have DIED, never to be
resurrected again as it was...and all our officials will have breached
their Oaths to defend it. The backbone of America will be broken.<br>
<br>
So, those who say impeachment is wrong, or that there is not enough
time, are effectively allowing America to commit suicide,</font></font><font
size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"> never to to have
that dream again. They will have done more damage to the US (and the
world) than any Al Queda or other foreign-based enemy ever could do. It
wouldn't matter any more what happens with America's wars abroad. Our
security (the constitutional basis for our society) will have been
severely breached, and the war at home will be LOST, our freedoms lost.
<br>
<br>
Spying, torture, no habeus corpus, preemptive wars, illegal unlimited
detention, infiltration of civic groups, censorship, accusing political
opposition of being "terrorists," etc....does this sound like the USA
you and I know? Sounds kinda like the ol' Soviet Union, doesn't it? I
don't know about you, but I don't want a dictatorship implanted here. I
want an ever-more-perfected democracy.<br>
<br>
</font></font><font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">George
Bush
has been quoted as calling the Constitution, "that goddamned piece of
paper." THAT UTTERANCE, alone, is a violation of the inaugural Oath of
Office he took, and the document he swore to defend; it makes him unfit
to continue in that office, and should land him in the street.</font></font><br>
<font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br>
There is no higher political or moral duty at this time for REAL
patriots to do their duty as it is <i>required</i> by law, by our
Constitution, to impeach. There simply ARE NO higher priorities than to
save America's Laws and Life.<br>
<br>
So, NO, sir, to pretend there are <i>more</i> important things to do
in Congress during Bush's last six months, is to willingly stick one's
head in the sand while America dies an ignoble death. Do you want that
on your conscience? Is THAT the legacy you wish to give your children?
Or might you rather have them be proud to be part of a nation that knew
how to </font></font><font size="+1"><font
face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">REALLY </font></font><font
size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">defend itself
from abuse--and not just with bombs and bullets--but rather, with the
Supreme Law of the Land, the US Constitution.<br>
<br>
Before you jump to conclusions and make emotional charges against those
who care deeply about the future of our nation, I suggest you actually
READ the <a
href="http://southfloridaimpeachmentcoalition.org/resolutions/bush_impeach.pdf">35
charges</a> by Kucinich (no matter what physical height or looks he
might have) and be able to deny <u>all</u> 35 of them. In any case,
America has the right, the need, the <i>Constitutional obligation</i>,
to look into such allegations for their <b>merit</b>. Any single one
of them, if proven true, is grounds for impeachment as written in our
Constitution, which, the last time I looked, still reigns as the
supreme law in our land.<br>
<br>
Yours, with due respect,<br>
<br>
Alan Kobrin<br>
<br>
PS-<br>
</font></font><font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">The
only
connection between the impeachment charges and effort to get hearings
(currently supported by a number of Democratic congresspeople,
including Florida's Wexler) and the Green Party, is that our Party
looked at the evidence (and there is an astonishing amount), and has
been calling for impeachment of Bush & Cheney since 2003. We are
glad that finally others in our nation have seen the seriousness of
what has happened to the land we love, and are beginning to demand that
Law be followed and our Constitution be secured so that We, the People,
can be truly secure.</font></font><br>
<font size="+1"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br>
If our Party is "not taken seriously" it is to a great degree because
those in the two major parties (whom you apparently DO take seriously),
in clearly anti-democratic actions and to the detriment of open public
debate on the issues, prevent our group and other parties from access
to public debates and the media.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:statesmc@bellsouth.net">statesmc@bellsouth.net</a>
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid062820081151.4507.486625BB000CFFBA0000119B22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0C039C0A9B0E9B9C@att.net"
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<div> After reading you editorial in the Miami Herald I realize
why your party is not taken seriously. There was a reason why no one
was on the floor in Congress and why neither the press nor the public
cared about the little troll like person called Kucinich wasted his
time and taxpayers money by bringing up charges of impeachment.
Whether you support OUR PRESIDENT or not, and obviously you do not,
President Bush will be leaving office in 6 months. Your idea to waste
Congress's and the Senate's time on impeachment when there is so many
more important issues to deal with and the fact impeachment would take
more time then the President has in office, is just assinine. It is
time for this country to heal and come together to solve our problems
of today, not waste it's time or energy on ripping it apart on a dead
issue. Please, if your going to write letters to the editor, do not
waste newspaper space with such dribble.</div>
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<div>Sincerely,</div>
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<div>Bob Dziadik</div>
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