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<br><br> I'm sure Steven G. Bradbury doesn't sound like part of the Rice network, either.<br>He used to live at the hippie commune Synergy House. But that didn't stop him<br>from writing memos at the DoJ Office of Legal Counsel that authorized enhanced<br>interrogations.<br><br> These Good Germans make me sick.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:19:50 -0800<br>> From: tnharter@aceweb.com<br>> To: sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org<br>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [TASC Notes:] The Future of the Automobile]<br>> <br>> Nope. Not a word about anything in your first paragraph. He did say that<br>> it's unlikely autonomous cars will be regular sights on the road soon,<br>> mainly because of the liability issues. He said that vision for robots<br>> under the hood is a problem for cars because it's hard to keep the<br>> sensors clean over the typical life of a car.<br>> <br>> He did say that between him and his wife, they put an average of 6,000<br>> miles on the family car "because driving isn't fun the way it once was."<br>> I liked that answer.<br>> <br>> The guys background was in cars for the public. He didn't sound like<br>> part of the Rice network.<br>> <br>> Tian<br>> <br>> Brian Good wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Did he mention the fact that the immediate beneficiaries of the <br>> > Autonomous Vehicle<br>> > work the CARS program is doing will obviously be the military, who can <br>> > use it to create<br>> > driverless vehicles with infra-red vision to go around killing <br>> > everything with a pulse? Did<br>> > he mention that it will enable such vehicles to be disposable?<br>> > <br>> > I bet he doesn't like to think about that. I don't know how those <br>> > people sleep at<br>> > night. Stanford is getting to be famous for some really shameful <br>> > stuff--Rehnquist,<br>> > O'Connor, Rice, and now robot suicide bombers.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:26:35 -0800<br>> > > From: tnharter@aceweb.com<br>> > > To: sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org<br>> > > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [TASC Notes:] The Future of the Automobile]<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -------- Original Message --------<br>> > > Subject: [TASC Notes:] The Future of the Automobile<br>> > > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:09:30 EST<br>> > > From: TNHarter@aol.com<br>> > > To: undisclosed-recipients:;<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > * Sven A. Beiker, PhD<br>> > > *<br>> > > > * The Future of the Automobile*<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Sven Beiker is Executive Director, Center for Automotive Research at<br>> > > > Stanford (CARS), the interdisciplinary automotive affiliates program<br>> > > > at Stanford University. The vision of CARS is to create a community<br>> > > > of faculty and students from a range of disciplines at Stanford with<br>> > > > leading industry researchers to radically re-envision the automobile<br>> > > > for unprecedented levels of safety, performance, sustainability, and<br>> > > > enjoyment. Their mission is to discover, build, and deploy the<br>> > > > critical ideas and innovations for the next generation of cars and<br>> > > > drivers.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Before joining Stanford University, Sven worked at the BMW Group for<br>> > > > more than 13 years, and has worked in three major automotive and<br>> > > > technology locations: Germany, Silicon Valley, and Detroit. Since<br>> > > > Spring 2009 Sven has been teaching a Stanford class on "The Future<br>> > > > of the Automobile" to educate students in interdisciplinary<br>> > > > automotive thinking and to get them involved with the industry<br>> > > > early on.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Sven will describe his work at CARS to bring research with automotive<br>> > > > interest from industry and academia together, and his vision for the<br>> > > > automobile's future.<br>> > > ><br>> > > Sven began by giving us a brief history of the automobile, starting with<br>> > > the first true self powered and steered car back in 1885 in Germany.<br>> > > He explained that in those early days there was lots of debate about<br>> > > engine configuration, steering and so forth. The second period of car<br>> > > history change was driven by different drive trains, chassis, and <br>> > options.<br>> > > These matters have been mostly mature technologies since the 1970s.<br>> > > More recently safety issues, driver assistance, and crash safety have<br>> > > been factors in changing car design.<br>> > ><br>> > > Moving forward, the main challenges for car design that CARS have<br>> > > identified are safety (last year 1,200,000 people died in traffic<br>> > > Accidents worldwide and 34,000 in the United States), efficiency<br>> > > (last year the average commuter spent 36 hours per year stuck in<br>> > > traffic), pollution (last year 1.9 million tons of CO2 were emitted<br>> > > by the transportation sector), and cost (the average consumer<br>> > > spends $8,758 per year for transportation).<br>> > ><br>> > > Driver assistance is one area where Sven sees a lot of room for<br>> > > innovation. One reason is that human error plays a role in many<br>> > > accidents. Another is that computers can run the engine of a car<br>> > > much more efficiently than most drives. Another thing is that the<br>> > > legal challenges involved with a self driving car give the auto industry<br>> > > nightmares. The liability is unclear in case of an accident. Car <br>> > companies<br>> > > are already releasing cars with things like adaptive cruise control that<br>> > > came from driver assistance research. Sven expects more of that in<br>> > > the future.<br>> > ><br>> > > Electric drive is more efficient than internal combustion engines,<br>> > > if you look at just one car and its power source. The problem is that<br>> > > there are many questions to be answered about where to get the<br>> > > power for millions of cars. That is an area where a lot of research<br>> > > is still to be done.<br>> > ><br>> > > Connectivity is another area where a lot of research is being done.<br>> > > Areas such as vehicle to vehicle (V2V) communication and vehicle<br>> > > to infrastructure (V2I) are being explored to find ways to add to the<br>> > > safety of driving. A big stumbling block is the question "who will pay<br>> > > for the infrastructure upgrades?" There are regulatory decisions<br>> > > about that coming in the 2013 time frame. In the mean time, cell<br>> > > phones are turning out to be good interfaces for many needs.<br>> > ><br>> > > Looking forward, Sven expects plug in hybrid cars to become more<br>> > > common by 2020 while it remains to be seen how battery electric<br>> > > vehicle will catch on.<br>> > ><br>> > > Tian Harter<br>> > ><br>> > > --<br>> > > Tian<br>> > > http://tian.greens.org<br>> > > Latest change: Added a picture of 2010's quarters culled from junk mail.<br>> > > The manga video pin I got in '04 is on an American Samoa quarter now.<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list<br>> > > sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org<br>> > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list<br>> > sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org<br>> > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Tian<br>> http://tian.greens.org<br>> Latest change: Added a picture of 2010's quarters culled from junk mail.<br>> The manga video pin I got in '04 is on an American Samoa quarter now.<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list<br>> sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org<br>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss<br> </body>
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