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On 12/9/2011 10:13 AM, John Thielking wrote:
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">If <var
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businesses' desires to run small businesses out of town,
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I never had any doubts about that: That's precisely why we
need a constitutional amendment that corporations are not people
(but single proprietors are, as are individuals who own LLCs, etc.)
Spencer <br>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Friends,</div>
<div>Amazing! On the eve of the House Judiciary Committee vote,
the head of the Motion Picture Assocation of America admitted
that he's pushing a censorship regime just like China's.
According to Variety, he said:</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><em style="RIGHT: auto"> "When the
Chinese told Google that they had to block sites or they
couldn't do [business] in their country, they managed to
figure out how to block sites."</em></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><a moz-do-not-send="true" style="RIGHT:
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href="http://act.demandprogress.org/go/374?akid=1077.298162.jYxTJx&t=5"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><strong style="RIGHT: auto"><font
style="RIGHT: auto" color="#234786">Please urge your
lawmakers to oppose Internet censorship -- the vote is
coming up next week! </font></strong></a></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">The Stop Online Piracy Act would
require sites to censor their users' posts (or shut down), let
the government block your access to websites, and put people
in jail for uploading unlicensed content (ie, cover band
performances).</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">The House Judiciary Committee is
expected to vote NEXT WEEK. This isn't China -- it's America,
where the First Amendment is supposed to rule the day.</div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><a moz-do-not-send="true" style="RIGHT:
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rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><strong style="RIGHT: auto"><font
style="RIGHT: auto" color="#234786">Please click here to
ask your lawmakers to oppose a China-like Internet
regime in America.</font></strong></a></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto">Thanks.<br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b>
Spencer Graves <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></a><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> John
Thielking <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pagesincolor@yahoo.com"><pagesincolor@yahoo.com></a> <br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org">"sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org"</a>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, December 8, 2011 9:51 PM<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[GPSCC-chat] Amendment Name/Feedback<br>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"> I'm with Drew on this: If
this amendment passes, nothing will change immediately.
They major corporations will still fight tooth and claw
to minimize the impact of the changes. The difference
is that rather than them working with our current
reactionary courts to give them even more power over
natural persons, they will be on the defensive. Even
then, it could take massive amounts of money from
private citizens to pay for the litigation required to
enforce the changes. <br>
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You are doubtless correct about one point in this,
however, namely that the large corporations will eagerly
use their powers to try to limit the power of small
businesses while not limiting the large ones. With the
wording of this amendment, it will be hard for them to
find ways to do that, but they doubtless will try -- and
the commercial media (especially broadcasting) will
support them at every turn. <br>
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Best Wishes, <br>
Spencer <br>
p.s. A cousin is an engineer and a private pilot. He
sometimes asks, "What makes an airplane fly?" Answer:
Money. <br>
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On 12/8/2011 9:42 PM, John Thielking wrote:
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">The only other option that
I can see that won't result in a dark age (not
counting the one we are already in) is to pass
Section 2 and 3 first and then try for section 1
about 10 years later. No delay clauses required.
Still required is a populace that won't just go
back to sleep at the smell of the first victory.<br>
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John Thielking</div>
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Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
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