<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">So this means a continuation of the SOS, namely the rounding up of undocumented immigrants, only this time they can be detained indefinitely. This is not any more acceptable than the previous interpretation. So now the military may soon <VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>be patrolling the streets checking to see if you have a passport or birth certificate and if you don't (especially if you are brown) detaining you indefinitely or until they can sort out your citizenship status. I have heard that the error rate of ICE detaining lawfull residents is as high as 5%. We will have to see how this all shakes out. I'm still sticking with the following slogan: "Since the pasage of NDAA 2012, the lesser of two evils argument has flown out the window and hit its head on the
pavement. Vote the two party system of the Green Party and the Peace and Fredom Party and nevermind the unintended consequences." <BR style="RIGHT: auto" class=yui-cursor></SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr readonly="true" contenteditable="false"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Wes Rolley <wrolley@charter.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:54 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [GPSCC-chat] Civil liberties? What civil liberties?<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV>The basis of my comments are these.<BR><BR>Renumbered... Section 1021 (e) reads...<BR>(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section<BR>shall be construed to affect existing law or<BR>authorities relating to the detention of<BR>United States citizens, lawful resident aliens<BR>of the United States, or any other persons<BR>who are captured or arrested in the United<BR>States.<BR><BR>Renumbered... Section 1022 (b) reads...<BR>(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS<BR>AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—<BR>(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement<BR>to detain a person in military custody<BR>under this section does not extend to citizens<BR>of the United States.<BR>(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement<BR>to detain a person in military custody<BR>under this section does not extend to a lawful<BR>resident alien of the United States on the<BR>basis of conduct taking place within the<BR>United States, except to the extent permitted<BR>by the
Constitution of the United<BR>States.<BR><BR>-- and --<BR>(2) COVERED PERSONS.—The requirement in<BR>paragraph (1)<B> shall apply to any person<BR>whose detention is authorized under section<BR>1021</B> who is determined—<BR><BR>Greenwald fails to consider that American Citizens and Resident Aliens are exempted from the provisions of 1021 and chooses instead to quibble about the meaning of the term "requirement'... sort of like what<I> the meaning of "is" is. <BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>sosfbay-discuss mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org" ymailto="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org">sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss" target=_blank>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss</A><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>