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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Spencer Graves <spencer.graves@prodsyse.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub@att.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> John Thielking <pagesincolor@yahoo.com>; "sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue, January 3, 2012 9:48:38 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [GPSCC-chat] I Now Have 2 Community Pages On Facebook<BR></FONT><BR>On 1/3/2012 9:40 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
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<DIV>So Spencer, you don't really believe that the amendment, as it now stands, would hurt small business? I don't have much expertise in the business world, but I can't read it and feel sure about that.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> I think the net impact will more likely be positive. Major corporations today provide the money that elect the politicians, who then spend a substantial portion of their time trying to enact verbiage written by lobbyists for their major contributors. This would not work if a critical mass of the electorate paid directly for serious investigative journalism that would tell them in more detail how this works and would make it clearer to the electorate which candidates would actually legislate in the interest of the bottom 99%. The business model of the commercial media is selling behavior change in their audience to advertisers. The 1% does not what the public to know
exactly the many ways in which they get welfare, and they can retaliate against honestly liberal media. They know they do not need to feed the mouth that bites them. <BR><BR><BR> I'd be surprised if passing that amendment would have an immediate, dramatic effect. However, it would make it more difficult for the 1% to buy congress and continue the current massive transfers of wealth from the 99% to the 1%. <BR><BR><BR> Spencer <BR><BR><BR>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Spencer Graves <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> John Thielking <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:pagesincolor@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:pagesincolor@yahoo.com"><pagesincolor@yahoo.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org">"sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org"</A> <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org"><sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Tue, January 3, 2012 9:33:32 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [GPSCC-chat] I Now Have 2 Community Pages On Facebook<BR></FONT><BR>Hi, John, et al.: <BR><BR><BR> It is in the best short term interest of the venal 1% to claim that repealing corporate personhood would hurt small business. I don't know if that is what is happening, but I would expect that Citizens United and similar organizations would be paying people to write messages on Facebook with claims like, ""SOPA would deprive small businesses (ie web sites) of their property (their domain names and access to their sites) without due process". Big money in politics today is often spent (a) doing focus groups to find out what kinds of arguments against it resonate with people, (b) following that with sample surveys to pick the strongest of several likely candidates, then (c) circulating that message in a variety
of ways, often concealing the source. <BR><BR><BR> The concerns about SOPA and NDAA are real, but I the primary impact on small business I see from repeal of corporate personhood is that it would deprive the 1% of certain tools they now use to increase their wealth and power at the expense of small businesses. <BR><BR><BR> (more on your Facebook page citing research that social mobility is lower in the US, where the power of corporations has grown substantially over the past 125 years, than in much of Europe, which reportedly does not have corporate personhood.) <BR><BR><BR> Spencer Graves<BR><BR><BR>On 1/3/2012 8:44 AM, John Thielking wrote:
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<DIV class="actorDescription actorName"><A href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Small-Businesses-Are-People-Too/169333889834098" rel=nofollow target=_blank><FONT color=#3b5998 size=4>Small Businesses Are People Too</FONT></A></DIV></H6><SPAN class=messageBody>
<H6 id=id_4f0326d60c5065c87547689 class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><FONT size=4>A prime example of the contradictions within the movement and the need to think over carefully the MTA Section 1 is the case of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). SOPA would deprive small businesses (ie web sites) of their property (their domain names and access to their sites) without due process (big businesses could merely petition a judge claiming violations of copyright and the sites would be <SPAN class=text_exposed_show>shut down for a minimum of 5 days before a hearing could be held to present evidence). Some in the Occupy movement are busy protesting this unconstitutional move by Congress, while at the same time pushing for passage of MTA Section 1 which would make their claims of unconstitutionality of SOPA moot. So which is it? Do you support rights for small businesses or don't you?</SPAN></FONT></H6>
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<H6 class=uiStreamMessage><SPAN class=messageBody><FONT size=4>The final post for 2011: Go to </FONT><A href="http://www.peacemovies.com/offhollywood.html" rel=nofollow target=_blank><FONT size=4><FONT color=#3b5998><SPAN>www.peacemovies.com/</SPAN><SPAN class=word_break></SPAN></FONT>offhollywood.html</FONT></A><FONT size=4> for a quick peek at the possibilities of legally streaming content for "free" that is often of higher quality, more original and almost always less violent than the typical Hollywood fare. If you like what you just streamed, please donate generously to the site that provided the content. Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></H6>
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