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    Hi, John, et al.:  <br>
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           It is in the best short term interest of the venal 1% to
    claim that repealing corporate personhood would hurt small
    business.  I don't know if that is what is happening, but I would
    expect that Citizens United and similar organizations would be
    paying people to write messages on Facebook with claims like, ""SOPA
    would deprive small businesses (ie web sites) of their property
    (their domain names and access to their sites) without due
    process".  Big money in politics today is often spent (a) doing
    focus groups to find out what kinds of arguments against it resonate
    with people, (b) following that with sample surveys to pick the
    strongest of several likely candidates, then (c) circulating that
    message in a variety of ways, often concealing the source.  <br>
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          The concerns about SOPA and NDAA are real, but I the primary
    impact on small business I see from repeal of corporate personhood
    is that it would deprive the 1% of certain tools they now use to
    increase their wealth and power at the expense of small businesses. 
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          (more on your Facebook page citing research that social
    mobility is lower in the US, where the power of corporations has
    grown substantially over the past 125 years, than in much of Europe,
    which reportedly does not have corporate personhood.)  <br>
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          Spencer Graves<br>
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    On 1/3/2012 8:44 AM, John Thielking wrote:
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              data-ft="{"type":2}"><font size="4">Folks,</font></div>
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            <div style="RIGHT: auto" class="actorDescription actorName"
              data-ft="{"type":2}"><font size="4">I now have
                two community pages on Facebook which may be of interest
                to you.  Check them out if you like/if you have time.</font></div>
            <div style="RIGHT: auto" class="actorDescription actorName"
              data-ft="{"type":2}"><font size="4">Thanks.</font></div>
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              data-ft="{"type":2}"><font size="4">Sincerely,</font></div>
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            <div style="RIGHT: auto" class="actorDescription actorName"
              data-ft="{"type":2}"><font size="4">John
                Thielking</font></div>
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            <div style="RIGHT: auto" class="actorDescription actorName"
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href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Small-Businesses-Are-People-Too/169333889834098"
data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=169333889834098"><font
                  style="RIGHT: auto" color="#3b5998" size="4">Small
                  Businesses Are People Too</font></a></div>
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              class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><font size="4">A
                prime example of the contradictions within the movement
                and the need to think over carefully the MTA Section 1
                is the case of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). SOPA
                would deprive small businesses (ie web sites) of their
                property (their domain names and access to their sites)
                without due process (big businesses could merely
                petition a judge claiming violations of copyright and
                the sites would be <span style="RIGHT: auto"
                  class="text_exposed_show">shut down for a minimum of 5
                  days before a hearing could be held to present
                  evidence). Some in the Occupy movement are busy
                  protesting this unconstitutional move by Congress,
                  while at the same time pushing for passage of MTA
                  Section 1 which would make their claims of
                  unconstitutionality of SOPA moot. So which is it? Do
                  you support rights for small businesses or don't you?</span></font></h6>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
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