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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Occupy San José has NOT made any plans
for today. We have a committee working to organize something for
Oct. 6. If you'd like to help with that, please let me know; I
can help you contact the people organizing that. Spencer <br>
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On 9/17/2012 12:14 PM, John Thielking wrote:<br>
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<div>My current plan is to go to City Hall at 3PM-5PM
today. Anyone else who wants to join me is welcome.</div>
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<div>John Thielking<br>
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From: John Thielking <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pagesincolor@yahoo.com"><pagesincolor@yahoo.com></a><br>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th?<br>
To: "Spencer Graves" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></a><br>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org">sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org</a><br>
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 7:31 PM<br>
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<div>Does Occupy SJ have anything planned for
Sept 17th? I looked on all of their
available web pages and I didn't see
anything except the Sept 15th foreclosure
summit. I suppose I will wander down to
City Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to hold
up my signs about derivatives and free
education.</div>
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<div>John Thielking<br>
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--- On <b>Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer Graves <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></a></i></b>
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From: Spencer Graves
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></a><br>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court
challenge in SF on Monday morning, September
17<br>
To: "Gerry Gras"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gerrygras@earthlink.net"><gerrygras@earthlink.net></a><br>
Cc: "GPSCC"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org"><sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org></a><br>
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:23 AM<br>
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<div class="yiv1031236104plainMail">Hi,
Gerry, et al.:<br>
<br>
<br>
I forwarded Gerry's email to the
Occupy San José list. Dave Kadlecek <br>
replied that at most two of the plaintiffs
hit with this quarter-million <br>
dollar judgment were Greens and gave links
to more info. I modified the <br>
Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking
a proposal on it to the Occupy <br>
San José General assembly at noon today.<br>
<br>
<br>
Below please see Dave's comments and
my reply.<br>
<br>
<br>
Spencer<br>
<br>
<br>
##############################<br>
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<br>
Hi, Dave, et al.:<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for the corrections AND the
links to further information. <br>
Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia
article on "California <br>
Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the
information in those two links. <br>
If you have time to review that article
and see other changes that you <br>
feel should be made, please let me know.
(Note, however, that Wikipedia <br>
requires "a neutral point of view" and
solid sources for what is stated <br>
there.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Next: Revise my proposal for
today's General Assembly, print, <br>
and take them there by noon.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best Wishes,<br>
Spencer<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote:<br>
> Spencer and all,<br>
><br>
> I also urge those of you who can make
it to the court hearing in San<br>
> Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have
a correction to Spencer's email and<br>
> a bit of elaboration.<br>
><br>
> The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't
by "6 Green Party activists", but by<br>
> six people, at least four of whom are
not Greens (Richard Winger, the<br>
> publisher of Ballot Access News, is a
Libertarian; Steve Chessin, the<br>
> chair of Californians for Electoral
Reform, is a Democrat; and Rodney<br>
> Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff
Mackler (Socialist Action) are with<br>
> non-ballot qualified parties).<br>
><br>
> As you may remember, Prop 14 brought
about the "top two" primary system,<br>
> first implemented state-wide this
year, which is why there will be only<br>
> two candidates on the ballot (and no
write-in space) in every race for<br>
> U.S. Congress (both House and Senate)
and the state legislature (both<br>
> State Senate and Assembly) this
November. If you don't like Dianne<br>
> Feinstein and don't want to vote for
her Republican opponent, your only<br>
> choice this November will be to
abstain; you can't vote for a third<br>
> party candidate, because none will be
on the ballot, and you can't even<br>
> write in "Mickey Mouse" because there
won't be a write-in space for U.S.<br>
> Senate.<br>
><br>
> The lawsuit directly challenged two
specific aspects of SB 6, the bill<br>
> that implemented Prop 14 (which was a
constitutional amendment): one<br>
> that said candidates from non-ballot
qualified parties couldn't have<br>
> their party listed on the ballot, and
another that said write-in votes<br>
> could not be counted in general
elections. The judge ruled against the<br>
> plaintiffs in lower court, and the
legislature changed the relevant law<br>
> (basically to put into the state
Elections Code the interpretations of<br>
> ambiguous language the Secretary of
State had made) while appeals were<br>
> in process.<br>
><br>
> There were two sets of lawyers on the
other side in the case, one from<br>
> the Attorney General's office,
representing the Secretary of State (the<br>
> defendant), and the other from the
Nielsen Merksamer law firm<br>
> representing Abel Maldonado (who got
it on the ballot by extorting the<br>
> Democrats in the legislature for his
vote on the 2009 budget deal) and<br>
> the other sponsors of Prop 14. For
those who aren't otherwise aware, the<br>
> Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based
in San Rafael, with a major part of<br>
> their practice representing landlords
challenging local rent control<br>
> laws and other tenant protections;
they used to represent the state<br>
> Republican Party when that party's
apparatus was controlled primarily by<br>
> business interests, but when the
social conservative types (i.e., the<br>
> ones who really are vehemently
anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-immigrant,<br>
> as opposed to just using those issues
to win votes) took over the party<br>
> organization, they switched law
firms. It's the Nielsen Merksamer<br>
> lawyers who were awarded a quarter
million dollars. They didn't trust<br>
> the state's lawyers to properly
defend the ballot measure they backed,<br>
> but instead of going after the state
for attorney's fees, they went<br>
> after the plaintiffs who had sued the
state.<br>
><br>
> For more information, see<br>
> "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/</a>"<br>
><br>
> and "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148</a>".<br>
><br>
> /Dave Kadlecek<br>
><br>
><br>
> Spencer Graves wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello, All:<br>
>><br>
>> The Green party is asking
for support against an outrageous<br>
>> judgment in court in San
Francisco at Larkin and McAllister next<br>
>> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM
hearing. The 6 Green Party activists<br>
>> who challenged Prop 14 (the top
two primary system) have been ordered<br>
>> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys
representing the top two system.<br>
>> Prop 14 effectively eliminates
third parties from the general<br>
>> election, except in rare cases
where a third party candidate actually<br>
>> gets in the top two. Other
states that have this have seen a decline<br>
>> in membership of third parties.<br>
>><br>
>> This punitive settlement
may not stop here, because the same<br>
>> judge who assessed this punitive
settlement will also hear the<br>
>> request request for
reconsideration, even though normal court<br>
>> procedures require a different
judge. Moreover, this hearing was<br>
>> moved up from October to
tomorrow, Monday, September 17. The<br>
>> attorney challenging this
decision is concerned that he may be
levied<br>
>> a similar punitive judgment for
daring to challenge the $243,500<br>
>> settlement. For more details,
see below.<br>
>><br>
>> I believe this is an attack
on democracy. If you agree and can<br>
>> make it to court in San Francisco
next Monday, I encourage you to do so.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Spencer<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original Message
--------<br>
>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat]
Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens<br>
>> help in SF on Monday morning,
September 17<br>
>> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012
23:09:55 -0700<br>
>> From: Gerry Gras <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gerrygras@earthlink.net"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gerrygras@earthlink.net</a>><br>
>> To: GPSCC <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I am planning on going to court
Monday.<br>
>><br>
>> Gerry<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Gerry Gras wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think this is pretty
serious. I hope Richard<br>
>>> Winger (Ballot Access News)
and the other 5 get<br>
>>> plenty of help.<br>
>>><br>
>>> For those who don't remember,
Prop 14 is the one<br>
>>> that gave us the top two
primary system.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Gerry<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> -------- Original Message
--------<br>
>>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need
Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday<br>
>>> morning,<br>
>>> September 17<br>
>>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012
20:39:49 -0700<br>
>>> From: Mike Feinstein <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfeinstein@feinstein.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mfeinstein@feinstein.org</a>><br>
>>> To: GPCA Forum <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gpca-forum@cagreens.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gpca-forum@cagreens.org</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> From: Richard Winger <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger@yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: September 14, 2012
8:19:06 PM PDT<br>
>>> To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfeinstein@feinstein.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mfeinstein@feinstein.org</a><br>
>>> Subject: I badly hope to
obtain help from everyone on this list<br>
>>> Reply-To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger@yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear Mike, if you could pass
this on to any California Green Party<br>
>>> activists list, I would sure
appreciate it. Obviously it would be<br>
>>> most useful sent to bay area
Greens.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Richard Winger<br>
>>> 415-922-9779<br>
>>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco
Ca 94147<br>
>>><br>
>>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard
Winger <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger@yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> From: Richard Winger <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger@yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>> Subject: I badly hope to
obtain help from everyone on this list<br>
>>> To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
>>> Date: Friday, September 14,
2012, 8:13 PM<br>
>>><br>
>>> Some of you know that on
August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that
the<br>
>>> six of us who challenged
Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to
the<br>
>>> attorneys who intervened in
the case for Abel Maldonado and other<br>
>>> supporters of the top-two
system. We asked for reconsideration.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The attorney for the
intervenors has arranged to have the same
judge<br>
>>> hear the request for
reconsideration, even though according to
the<br>
>>> normal court procedures, we
were supposed to have a different judge.<br>
>>> And he got the hearing moved
up from October to Monday, September 17,<br>
>>> at 11 a.m. Our attorney,
Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont,<br>
>>> California, is afraid that
this same judge is going to impose<br>
>>> sanctions on him for even
daring to ask for reconsideration. The<br>
>>> attorney for the other side
is very cocky and we feel the only<br>
>>> recourse is to try to have as
many friends in court as possible, so<br>
>>> the judge sees that we have
support. Please, if you can possibly come<br>
>>> to court at Larkin and
McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I
would<br>
>>> really appreciate it. We can
meet outside the courthouse. Please let<br>
>>> me know if you can come.
Thank you very much.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Richard Winger<br>
>>> 415-922-9779<br>
>>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco
Ca 94147</div>
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Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
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