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Peninsula Direct Action (formed by members of Occupy San José and
Occupy Redwood City) will hold an event at the Redwood City City
Hall at 5 PM; see below. Spencer <br>
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PDA is doing a solidarity event at RWC city hall starting at
5pm. 1017 Middlefield Road, Redwood City. Please spread the word
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<div>I think there should be events in as many places as
possible.<br>
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com">spencer.graves@prodsyse.com</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th?<br>
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<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Occupy San José has NOT made
any plans for today. We have a committee working to
organize something for Oct. 6. If you'd like to help with
that, please let me know; I can help you contact the
people organizing that. Spencer <br>
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On 9/17/2012 12:14 PM, John Thielking wrote:<br>
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<div>My current plan is to go to City Hall at
3PM-5PM today. Anyone else who wants to join me
is welcome.</div>
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<div>John Thielking<br>
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From: John Thielking <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept
17th?<br>
To: "Spencer Graves" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 7:31 PM<br>
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<div>Does Occupy SJ have anything
planned for Sept 17th? I looked on
all of their available web pages and
I didn't see anything except the
Sept 15th foreclosure summit. I
suppose I will wander down to City
Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to
hold up my signs about derivatives
and free education.</div>
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<div>John Thielking<br>
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--- On <b>Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer
Graves <i><a
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From: Spencer Graves <a
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Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a
court challenge in SF on Monday
morning, September 17<br>
To: "Gerry Gras" <a
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Cc: "GPSCC" <a
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Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012,
11:23 AM<br>
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class="ecxyiv1031236104plainMail">Hi,
Gerry, et al.:<br>
<br>
<br>
I forwarded Gerry's email to
the Occupy San José list. Dave
Kadlecek <br>
replied that at most two of the
plaintiffs hit with this
quarter-million <br>
dollar judgment were Greens and
gave links to more info. I
modified the <br>
Wikipedia article on that, and I'm
taking a proposal on it to the
Occupy <br>
San José General assembly at noon
today.<br>
<br>
<br>
Below please see Dave's
comments and my reply.<br>
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Spencer<br>
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Hi, Dave, et al.:<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for the corrections
AND the links to further
information. <br>
Using the links, I updated the
Wikipedia article on "California <br>
Proposition 14 (2010)" to
summarize the information in those
two links. <br>
If you have time to review that
article and see other changes that
you <br>
feel should be made, please let me
know. (Note, however, that
Wikipedia <br>
requires "a neutral point of view"
and solid sources for what is
stated <br>
there.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Next: Revise my proposal
for today's General Assembly,
print, <br>
and take them there by noon.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best Wishes,<br>
Spencer<br>
<br>
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On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave
Kadlecek wrote:<br>
> Spencer and all,<br>
><br>
> I also urge those of you who
can make it to the court hearing
in San<br>
> Francisco tomorrow to go, but
I have a correction to Spencer's
email and<br>
> a bit of elaboration.<br>
><br>
> The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen)
wasn't by "6 Green Party
activists", but by<br>
> six people, at least four of
whom are not Greens (Richard
Winger, the<br>
> publisher of Ballot Access
News, is a Libertarian; Steve
Chessin, the<br>
> chair of Californians for
Electoral Reform, is a Democrat;
and Rodney<br>
> Martin (Reform Party) and
Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action)
are with<br>
> non-ballot qualified
parties).<br>
><br>
> As you may remember, Prop 14
brought about the "top two"
primary system,<br>
> first implemented state-wide
this year, which is why there will
be only<br>
> two candidates on the ballot
(and no write-in space) in every
race for<br>
> U.S. Congress (both House and
Senate) and the state legislature
(both<br>
> State Senate and Assembly)
this November. If you don't like
Dianne<br>
> Feinstein and don't want to
vote for her Republican opponent,
your only<br>
> choice this November will be
to abstain; you can't vote for a
third<br>
> party candidate, because none
will be on the ballot, and you
can't even<br>
> write in "Mickey Mouse"
because there won't be a write-in
space for U.S.<br>
> Senate.<br>
><br>
> The lawsuit directly
challenged two specific aspects of
SB 6, the bill<br>
> that implemented Prop 14
(which was a constitutional
amendment): one<br>
> that said candidates from
non-ballot qualified parties
couldn't have<br>
> their party listed on the
ballot, and another that said
write-in votes<br>
> could not be counted in
general elections. The judge ruled
against the<br>
> plaintiffs in lower court,
and the legislature changed the
relevant law<br>
> (basically to put into the
state Elections Code the
interpretations of<br>
> ambiguous language the
Secretary of State had made) while
appeals were<br>
> in process.<br>
><br>
> There were two sets of
lawyers on the other side in the
case, one from<br>
> the Attorney General's
office, representing the Secretary
of State (the<br>
> defendant), and the other
from the Nielsen Merksamer law
firm<br>
> representing Abel Maldonado
(who got it on the ballot by
extorting the<br>
> Democrats in the legislature
for his vote on the 2009 budget
deal) and<br>
> the other sponsors of Prop
14. For those who aren't otherwise
aware, the<br>
> Nielsen Merksamer law firm is
based in San Rafael, with a major
part of<br>
> their practice representing
landlords challenging local rent
control<br>
> laws and other tenant
protections; they used to
represent the state<br>
> Republican Party when that
party's apparatus was controlled
primarily by<br>
> business interests, but when
the social conservative types
(i.e., the<br>
> ones who really are
vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice
and anti-immigrant,<br>
> as opposed to just using
those issues to win votes) took
over the party<br>
> organization, they switched
law firms. It's the Nielsen
Merksamer<br>
> lawyers who were awarded a
quarter million dollars. They
didn't trust<br>
> the state's lawyers to
properly defend the ballot measure
they backed,<br>
> but instead of going after
the state for attorney's fees,
they went<br>
> after the plaintiffs who had
sued the state.<br>
><br>
> For more information, see<br>
> "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/</a>"<br>
><br>
> and "<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148</a>".<br>
><br>
> /Dave Kadlecek<br>
><br>
><br>
> Spencer Graves wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello, All:<br>
>><br>
>> The Green party is
asking for support against an
outrageous<br>
>> judgment in court in San
Francisco at Larkin and McAllister
next<br>
>> Monday at 10:45 AM for an
11 AM hearing. The 6 Green Party
activists<br>
>> who challenged Prop 14
(the top two primary system) have
been ordered<br>
>> to pay $243,500 to the
attorneys representing the top two
system.<br>
>> Prop 14 effectively
eliminates third parties from the
general<br>
>> election, except in rare
cases where a third party
candidate actually<br>
>> gets in the top two.
Other states that have this have
seen a decline<br>
>> in membership of third
parties.<br>
>><br>
>> This punitive
settlement may not stop here,
because the same<br>
>> judge who assessed this
punitive settlement will also hear
the<br>
>> request request for
reconsideration, even though
normal court<br>
>> procedures require a
different judge. Moreover, this
hearing was<br>
>> moved up from October to
tomorrow, Monday, September 17.
The<br>
>> attorney challenging this
decision is concerned that he may
be levied<br>
>> a similar punitive
judgment for daring to challenge
the $243,500<br>
>> settlement. For more
details, see below.<br>
>><br>
>> I believe this is
an attack on democracy. If you
agree and can<br>
>> make it to court in San
Francisco next Monday, I encourage
you to do so.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Spencer<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original Message
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>> Subject: Re:
[GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum]
Need Bay Area Greens<br>
>> help in SF on Monday
morning, September 17<br>
>> Date: Sat, 15 Sep
2012 23:09:55 -0700<br>
>> From: Gerry Gras <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gerrygras%40earthlink.net"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gerrygras@earthlink.net</a>><br>
>> To: GPSCC <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss%40cagreens.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I am planning on going to
court Monday.<br>
>><br>
>> Gerry<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Gerry Gras wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think this is
pretty serious. I hope Richard<br>
>>> Winger (Ballot Access
News) and the other 5 get<br>
>>> plenty of help.<br>
>>><br>
>>> For those who don't
remember, Prop 14 is the one<br>
>>> that gave us the top
two primary system.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Gerry<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> -------- Original
Message --------<br>
>>> Subject: [gpca-forum]
Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on
Monday<br>
>>> morning,<br>
>>> September 17<br>
>>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep
2012 20:39:49 -0700<br>
>>> From: Mike Feinstein
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfeinstein%40feinstein.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mfeinstein@feinstein.org</a>><br>
>>> To: GPCA Forum <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gpca-forum%40cagreens.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gpca-forum@cagreens.org</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> From: Richard Winger
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>> Date: September 14,
2012 8:19:06 PM PDT<br>
>>> To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfeinstein%40feinstein.org"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mfeinstein@feinstein.org</a><br>
>>> Subject: I badly hope
to obtain help from everyone on
this list<br>
>>> Reply-To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear Mike, if you
could pass this on to any
California Green Party<br>
>>> activists list, I
would sure appreciate it.
Obviously it would be<br>
>>> most useful sent to
bay area Greens.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Richard Winger<br>
>>> 415-922-9779<br>
>>> PO Box 470296, San
Francisco Ca 94147<br>
>>><br>
>>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12,
Richard Winger <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> From: Richard Winger
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">richardwinger@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>> Subject: I badly hope
to obtain help from everyone on
this list<br>
>>> To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lpsf-activists%40yahoogroups.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
>>> Date: Friday,
September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM<br>
>>><br>
>>> Some of you know that
on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow
ruled that the<br>
>>> six of us who
challenged Prop. 14 in court, must
pay $243,500 to the<br>
>>> attorneys who
intervened in the case for Abel
Maldonado and other<br>
>>> supporters of the
top-two system. We asked for
reconsideration.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The attorney for the
intervenors has arranged to have
the same judge<br>
>>> hear the request for
reconsideration, even though
according to the<br>
>>> normal court
procedures, we were supposed to
have a different judge.<br>
>>> And he got the
hearing moved up from October to
Monday, September 17,<br>
>>> at 11 a.m. Our
attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young
attorney in Fremont,<br>
>>> California, is afraid
that this same judge is going to
impose<br>
>>> sanctions on him for
even daring to ask for
reconsideration. The<br>
>>> attorney for the
other side is very cocky and we
feel the only<br>
>>> recourse is to try to
have as many friends in court as
possible, so<br>
>>> the judge sees that
we have support. Please, if you
can possibly come<br>
>>> to court at Larkin
and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday
morning, I would<br>
>>> really appreciate
it. We can meet outside the
courthouse. Please let<br>
>>> me know if you can
come. Thank you very much.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Richard Winger<br>
>>> 415-922-9779<br>
>>> PO Box 470296, San
Francisco Ca 94147</div>
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