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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi, John: OK. I yield. Do you need
anything from me to make this happen? If yes, what? Spencer <br>
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On 10/11/2012 9:27 PM, John Thielking wrote:<br>
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<div>This video is useful to show before the election
because it does a good job of clearing up the
uncertainty about weather or not GMOs are really bad for
us (they are really bad for us and for farm animals).
In the Yes On N campaign about water fluoridation being
banned in Santa Cruz, which passed and became law, a lot
of the debate hinged on the dangers of fluoridation, not
so much on the nuts and bolts of the initiative that
simply stated that nothing could be added to the water
to treat humans as opposed to treating the water. I did
spring for a wi fi adapter for my laptop, but if it
would be better to play the video from a hard drive I
can do that instead. I called Shelby and confirmed that
the Peace Center has cables to run from the laptop to
the projector and the sound system. Another thing that
the video points out is that there is a voluntary "GMO
free" labeling initiative afoot similar to the labels on
milk saying that the milk is rBGH free. The market
share of products with those labels is growing by 250%
per year. As for campaigning for prop 37, handing out
fliers for the movie would do some of that too. You can
hand out 3 fliers per minute, as opposed to spending 5
minutes or more contacting and talking to each person
that you manage to reach going door to door. We can put
the url for the movie on the flier so that people who
can't make the exact date and time can still watch the
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<div>John Thielking<br>
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--- On <b>Thu, 10/11/12, Spencer Graves <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></a></i></b>
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From: Spencer Graves <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spencer.graves@prodsyse.com"><spencer.graves@prodsyse.com></a><br>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why you should vote Yes on
Prop 37<br>
To: "eden" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:edenw@gal3.com"><edenw@gal3.com></a><br>
Cc: "Greens" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org"><sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org></a><br>
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012, 7:16 PM<br>
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<div class="plainMail"> Thinking more about this,
I'm concerned that it may not be a good use of
resources to schedule a showing of this video at the
Peace Center before the election. Specifically, I'm
concerned that the vast majority of the people who
might come to see this would already be planning to
vote for prop 37. Moreover, they time they spend
watching this video could be better spent having them
make phone calls or ringing the doorbells of their
neighbors and asking some appropriate question like,
do they feel they should have a right to know what's
in the food they eat -- whatever question the Prop 37
campaign says we should ask.<br>
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What can you tell us about what the "Yes on prop
37" campaign suggests we use for talking points with
neighbors, etc.? If I'm not mistaken, they have enough
money, they should have done focus groups, etc., to
make good recommendations about the sound bites that
are most likely to be effective.<br>
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Spencer<br>
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On 10/11/2012 6:38 PM, eden wrote:<br>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Spencer Graves<br>
> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> 3. I have not worked much with
YouTube. However, from my limited<br>
>> experience, I've had lots of problems with
YouTube videos in real time,<br>
>> especially for something like this. If you
are trying to download it and<br>
>> play it via wi fi in real time, I would NOT
expect it to go smoothly.<br>
> I agree.<br>
> <br>
>> It<br>
>> would be best to download the video to a hard
drive (or maybe a USB drive or<br>
>> CD) and play it from there. With a typical
DSL connection, it can easily<br>
>> take 3 hours to download the data for a 1.5
hour video, and if a user clicks<br>
>> the wrong thing, it can restart from the
beginning. If you've watched it,<br>
>> it probably is some place on your hard
drive. However, I have not done this<br>
>> myself, so I don't know the details of how to
do it. I just know that it<br>
>> should be feasible unless there is some
special copyright protection in<br>
>> YouTube and the operating system to prevent
that.<br>
> I just attempted to download that YouTube
using the DownloadHelper<br>
> plugin for Firefox and it started to download
with no problem. That<br>
> usually implies that the file is free to
download. (In other words, if<br>
> the person who posted it didn't want it to be
downloaded for copyright<br>
> or other reasons, the file would not normally be
downloadable with the<br>
> plugin.)<br>
> <br>
> Enjoy.<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> eden<br>
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Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
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