<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear community, be aware that the link Brian sent that followed<br></div><div><br><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Here's a picture of one of the partially "evaporated" steel girders:</span><br>
</div><div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif"></span></div><br></div>did something to my wife's MacBook Pro. Virus or spyware or something, wedged Firefox dead. I feel so dirtied. Time to wipe the hard-drive and load a free linux operating system. </div>
<br></div><div>I suggest you all don't click on Brian's link...<br></div><div><br></div>Roy III<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Brian Good <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:snug.bug@hotmail.com" target="_blank">snug.bug@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">I remember now the tenth essential mystery of Ground Zero that the government<br>investigation dodged by declining to analyze the towers' collapses.<br><br>I made a somewhat artificial distinction between mystery #9, presence of <br>
molten or melted steel in the rubble pile; and mystery #10, presence of partially <br>"vaporized" steel samples.<br><br>Molten or melted steel (#9) was attested to by 5 PhDs--engineering professors at <br>Berkeley and MIT, the president of Notre Dame, a Johns Hopkins researcher, and<br>
a NYT science writer. It was described by a FDNY Captain, Philip Ruvolo, as<br>"molten steel . . . like you're in a foundry . . . like lava". Leslie Robertson, one of<br>the primary engineers of the WTC told a Stanford audience in the spring of 2002<br>
that he saw "like a little river of steel, flowing". (1)<br><br>#10, the "vaporized" or "evaporated" steel (the New York Times used both adjectives)<br>was described in Appendix C to the 2002 FEMA/ASCE report about the twin towers. (2)<br>
The Appendix C report ascribed the phenomenon to a sulfidation attack on the steel,<br>and said further investigation was needed to identify the source of the sulfur. No<br>further official investigation was done. Lying internet propagandists claim that the <br>
sulfur came from drywall gypsum, but this is impossible because gypsum, calcium<br>sulfate, is fully oxidized and thus chemically inert. That's why drywall is used for<br>fireproofing. A Florida engineer, Jonathan Cole, burned steel with gypsum dust for<br>
several days and detected no corrosion at all. <br><br>Here's a picture of one of the partially "evaporated" steel girders:<br><a href="http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2001/10/03_grou.html" target="_blank">http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2001/10/03_grou.html</a><br>
<br>The New York Times called this "perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the <br>investigation", but the government has never explained it.<br><br>(1)<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF4C6qtU_Fc&feature=c4-overview&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF4C6qtU_Fc&feature=c4-overview&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw</a><br>
(2) <a href="http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm" target="_blank">http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm</a><br><div class="hm HOEnZb"><br><br><br><br><br></div><div>
<div class="hm HOEnZb"><hr>From: <a href="mailto:snug.bug@hotmail.com" target="_blank">snug.bug@hotmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:gerrygras@earthlink.net" target="_blank">gerrygras@earthlink.net</a>; <a href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org" target="_blank">sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org</a><br>
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:50:29 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Risks to Internet?</div><div><div class="h5"><br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Since the internet started as a DARPA. project, the intel community had all this planned<br>out years before we even began to think about it--being able to link people through email,<br>website visits, and even voluntary social networking.<br>
<br>I have long suspected that Larry Silverstein's famous "pull it" remark about his World Trade<br>Center 7 skyscraper was a deliberately ambiguous remark intended to infect the internet <br>with a meme that would allow Isreali intrelligence to track who was spreading it and who<br>
believed it. Stupid bigots like Dr. Kevin Barrett stepped in the poo Big Time, and then tracked <br>it all over the carpets of their internet friends.<br><br>The "Dancing Israelis" stunt had a similar effect. Bigots regard the fact that Mossad agents <br>
went to the moon to get themselves arrested after demonstrating foreknowledge of the <br>9/11 plot as proof that the Mossad did the plot. It's ridiculous. There was a "picture van"<br>stopped a few blocks from the Security Command HQ on 9/11 that had on it a picture of an <br>
airliner attacking Manhattan. Do fools like Barrett honestly believe that Mossad agents in a<br>burst of enthusiasm painted a mural on a van to prove that they (the Mossad) did 9/11?<br>Obviously the Mossad wanted to get their foreknowledge into the public record so as to <br>
underscore the fact that they warned the US authorities before 9/11, even naming names<br>of alleged 9/11 ringleaders, pilots, and hijackers.<br><br>The 9/11 Truth movement has long been plagued by well-financed "friends" like Barrett who <br>
have accomplished little but to make us look really really stupid. Most of the credible people <br>have dropped out of the movement.<br><br>It's a shame, because at its heart the truth movement is these undeniable facts:<br>
<br>1. The 9/11 widows' 300 questions got 27 answers, 73 non-answer reponses, and 300 <br>no-reponses. <br><br>2. The scientific reports from NIST cut off their analysis at the moment the towers began to<br>collapse, thus failing to fulfil their number one objective of explaining "why and how" the <br>
towers collapsed. Truncating their report they are able to dodge TEN essential mysteries of<br>the collapses:<br><br>a, b, c Symmetry, totality, and speed of collapse<br>d The arrested rotation of the top of WTC2, contrary to Newton's 1st Law<br>
e Explosive (122 fps) ejections of pulverized building materials from isolated windows<br>as much as 40 stories below the collapse zone<br>f Multi-ton building components hurled laterally hundreds of yards<br>g pulverization of 180,000 tons of concrete floors, energy requirements of which should<br>
have slowed down the collapses <br>h the collapse of the robust lower core structures, 40 stories tall, after the outer floors had <br>already collapsed, under no more stress than their own weight--though they had been <br>
constructed to hold up the weight of 70 floors above them<br>i the presence of molten or melted steel in the rubble pile. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough <br>to melt steel, nor rubble pile materials. Long heating does not explain it. The 2d law of <br>
thermodynamics provides that a heated material can get no hotter than the fires that heat it.<br><br>OK, that's only nine. There were ten. I'll let you know when I remember the tenth.<br><br>B<br><br><br><br> <br>
<br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div>> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 14:47:17 -0700<br>> From: <a href="mailto:gerrygras@earthlink.net" target="_blank">gerrygras@earthlink.net</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org" target="_blank">sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org</a><br>
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Risks to Internet?<br>> <br>> <br>> NSA reading encrypted email?<br>> NSA monitoring iPhones?<br>> Verizon blocking and censoring users?<br>> <br>> "Internet S.O.S."<br>
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