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    Hello, All:  <br>
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          The Forum for Immigrant Rights and Empowerment (FIRE) is
    organizing a meeting with Santa Clara County Supervisor Cindy Chavez
    for oct 29 7pm at the First Unitarian church in San José to share
    with her the desire of FIRE members to support the current Santa
    Clara County policy to NOT participate in the "Secure Communities"
    program of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) unless the US
    Federal Government explicitly pays the County for incremental
    expenses.  <br>
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          This raises two questions:  <br>
    <br>
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                1.  Would any of you care to attend and / or share this
    information with anyone interested?  FIRE does not have an official
    announcement yet;  basic information appears below.  <br>
    <br>
    <br>
                2.  Could we please add an agenda item for the meeting
    tomorrow evening to discuss whether the Green Party of Santa Clara
    County wishes to be part of FIRE (which would include being listed
    as a member FIRE for this event)?  I'd estimate 5-10 minutes:  This
    should be a no-brainer.  If it's not, we may not be able to get
    consensus.  <br>
    <br>
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    RESOLVED:  The Green Party of Santa Clara County wishes to be a
    member of the Forum for Immigrant Rights and Empowerment (FIRE).  <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    DISCUSSION:  <br>
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          1.  Being a member would imply being listed as such in the
    announcement for for the Oct. 29 event.  <br>
    <br>
    <br>
          2.  FIRE, you may know, is the successor organization to the
    coalition that helped enact the current policy of not honoring
    requests from ICE unless the federal government explicitly paid for
    incremental expenses incurred by the county for doing this.  The
    feds have refused to do so, claiming they are already supplying
    money to help local law enforcement.  FIRE research notes that the
    alleged 2-day holds under this "Secure Communities" program have
    averaged roughly 20 days in other jurisdictions.  Some people have
    been held for months and have successfully sued the government over
    illegal detention.  <br>
    <br>
    <br>
          3.  The current policy is opposed by DA Rosen, Sheriff Smith,
    City Councilmember Olivario, and others including the San José
    Mercury News.  They have cited the case of Martha Casillas murdered
    allegedly by her estranged husband, Mario Chavez, while out on bail
    from threatening his youngest son with a knife (<a
href="http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_24069740/san-jose-man-jailed-fatally-stabbing-estranged-wife">http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_24069740/san-jose-man-jailed-fatally-stabbing-estranged-wife</a>). 
    The Mercury said this was NOT a Willie Horton issue.  I agree, but
    the Mercury has that upside down:  I hated the 1988 Willie Horton ad
    that helped win that election for GHW Bush.  However, that ad was
    relevant to that campaign, because Horton committed other crimes
    after having been released under a program supported by Bush's
    opponent, presidential candidate Dukakis.  In the Casillas-Chavez
    case, Casillas would likely have been killed anyway if Chavez had
    been a US citizen (<a
href="http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24232857/oct-4-readers-letters-banning-lead-bullets-government">http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_24232857/oct-4-readers-letters-banning-lead-bullets-government</a>).<br>
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          Spencer <br>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Subject:
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            <td>Re: Detainer Policy Action update</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
            <td>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:56:49 -0700</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
            <td>Donna Wallach <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:palestineis@dslextreme.com"><palestineis@dslextreme.com></a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Reply-To:

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            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:SCC_FIRE_CoreTeam@googlegroups.com">SCC_FIRE_CoreTeam@googlegroups.com</a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th>
            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:SCC_FIRE_CoreTeam@googlegroups.com">SCC_FIRE_CoreTeam@googlegroups.com</a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">CC: </th>
            <td>charisse domingo <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:charissedomingo@gmail.com"><charissedomingo@gmail.com></a></td>
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      <div dir="ltr">Jerry 
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        <div>Can you do one of those Doodle meeting scheduler for us to
          set up a meeting so we can discuss strategy and updates. I am
          really hoping I can make the next meeting.</div>
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        <div>All,</div>
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        <div>Those of  you who have been attending the meetings, could
          you please send some notes of what is going on.</div>
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        <div>Thank you,</div>
        <div>Donna</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Betsy
          Wolf-Graves <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:betsy237@prodsyse.com" target="_blank">betsy237@prodsyse.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Yes. I
            support FIRE meeting to discuss strategy and update us.
             Betsy
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                On 10/18/2013 12:00 PM, Jill Malone wrote:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  Does fire want to handle the research report section
                  if the program?<br>
                  <br>
                  Should fire have a meeting soon to discuss the overall
                  strategy and give an update about the public action?<br>
                  <br>
                  Sent from my iPhone<br>
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jill Malone <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:jkmalone@me.com" target="_blank">jkmalone@me.com</a>>

                    wrote:<br>
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                    Yes, Oct 29 is the date for the action.<br>
                    <br>
                    It would be great if you can come to the planning
                    meeting tonight.<br>
                    <br>
                    All the planning meetings are PACT and FIRE meetings
                    and we really need active FIRE participation for
                    these meetings and for the action.<br>
                    <br>
                    It would be great to have a co-chair from FIRE for
                    the action.  Ernesto from PACT will be the other
                    co-chair.<br>
                    Sent from my iPhone<br>
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                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:06 AM, charisse domingo
                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:charissedomingo@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">charissedomingo@gmail.com</a>>

                      wrote:<br>
                      <br>
                      Is this a meeting with just PACT or an action (for
                      the 29th?)<br>
                      <br>
                      I ** might ** be able to stop by the 7pm mtg
                      tonight because I'm shooting a<br>
                      wedding at the church.  But no guarantees.  Will
                      see how that goes.<br>
                      <br>
                      :)<br>
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                        solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 10/17/13 10:20 PM,
                        "Jill Malone" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:jkmalone@me.com" target="_blank">jkmalone@me.com</a>>

                        wrote:<br>
                        <br>
                        Chavez is confirmed for oct 29 7pm at the First
                        Unitarian church. There is a<br>
                        planning meeting Friday the 18th at 7pm at OLG
                        church. The media committee is<br>
                        meeting Saturday at noon at a nearby library.<br>
                        <br>
                        I apologize for the brief message but my
                        computer is getting fixed and I'm<br>
                        doing everything with my phone.<br>
                        <br>
                        Sent from my iPhone<br>
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