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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">I think it is wrong and actually divisive for generations to point the finger at each other and cast blame. The blame lies with the corporate capitalist system, not with the American people who have been misled by politicians, the corporate media, and our corporate-controlled education system. The "greatest generation" WAS great - how many of us would leave our families and communities for four or five years and risk our lives to defend what they understood was democracy and freedom?</font></div>
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<div>The greatest generation was ruined by McCarthyism pure and simple. Political debate in America, which thrived from the late 19th century (and earlier) up through the early 1940s, was effectively ended. Communists, socialists, and their "fellow-travelers" were hounded out of Hollywood, the print media, radio, and every available means of communication, not to mention unions, community organizations, cultural groups, and even social clubs. When the left was shut out of the debate - as surely as Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala were shut out of the presidential debates - no wonder the result was war and "mindless patriotism".</div>
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<div>We still suffer from McCarthyism today, where millions of people continue to believe communism is a "criminal conspiracy" as Nixon called it, rather than a viable and idealistic alternative to our broken economy. It is up to us to not be afraid to put forward radical solutions to society's problems. I joined the Greens because they are not afraid to be different - as they say, the color of courage is green. </div>
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<div>I think conditions today are actually more favorable than ever for proposing a new economic paradigm. For most people in the greatest generation, capitalism actually worked (see "Capitalism - A Love Story"). Now it is broken, failing to provide a living for millions and failing to protect the environment. It is time for people like us to step forward and change the world!</div>
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<div>Sandy</div>
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From: Brian <snug.bug@hotmail.com><br>
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Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The Greatest Generation?<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">I was inclined to think so until I recognized that they were not even <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">smart enough to put wheels and a collapsible handle on their luggage</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">--why should they be when Red Caps did all that for them? Of course <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">my disillusionment with the Greatest doesn't change my evaluation of <br>
</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">the Shittiest, my deGeneration, the one that climbed </span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">with Martin <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">Luther King</span></b> out of the abyss to peer from the ridgetop, and then stepped</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">back from the brink of the Promised Land to settle for cocaine and <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">luxury SUVs and McMansions instead of making the dream true.</span></b></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">We did succeed in preventing the war against Nicaragua, and probably <br>
</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">we aided the liberation of South America such that US-backed torturers <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">can now be prosecuted in Chile and Argentina, and victims of US -backed <br>
</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">torturers could become presidents in Chile (Bachelet), Uruguay (Mujica) <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">and Brazil (da Silva and Rouseff). But Hollywood wars in Grenada and <br>
</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">Panama and Kuwait enable the propagandists to claim we accomplished <br>
</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">nothing, and that claim enabled the current crop of corrupt wars that <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">continue today in Bush's fourth term.</span></b></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;">Here's Professor Francis Boyle's poetic rant:</span></b></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">The Greatest Generation?</span></u></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Oh really?</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">If they were so great</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Then why did they send</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Their Sons so willingly</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Off to die
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">In Vietnam</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">A war they started</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">While we suffered from</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">58,000 young men</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Of my generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Were murdered
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">By The Greatest Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Hundreds of Thousands</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Of our Lives were destroyed</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Plus</span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">
</span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> 3 million genocided Vietnamese</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Not that “gooks” mattered to The Greatest Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Then neither did we their Sons
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Why didn’t The Greatest Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Rise up as One</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">And tell the American Empire</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">That you will not have our Sons</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 12pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Over our dead bodies!</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Hell no!</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">They will not go!</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Why did The Greatest Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Not fight for US their Sons
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Against the American Empire</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">As they did against the German</span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">
</span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> and Japanese Empires</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">We the Sons of the Greatest Generation were not worth it</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">They said they were liberating Peoples in Foreign Lands</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Then why did The Greatest Generation send their Sons</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">To fight and die</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">In that God-forsaken Land?</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 18pt;">And to murder millions living in their own
</span></b><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">Land?</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Was this some blood-sport</span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"></span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">we had to play</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">With them as pony riders</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">and US as buzkashi goat carcasses</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Was it reverse Freudian Oedipal Complex</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Them killing us off</span></b><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"></span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">before we got to them</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">And took their place</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Were we blood-sacrifice to Moloch</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">With them as Priests</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">And we as sacrificial lambs</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">Were they our Abrahams</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">Actually murdering US their Isaacs</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">In a Holocaust</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">To their Genocidal Yahweh</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 20pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Hard to say</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">What was going on</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">In the Minds of The Greatest Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 18pt;">If anything at all</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 18pt;">Mindless Patriotism
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 18pt;">The last refuge of them Scoundrels!</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">They knew all about War</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">then sent their Sons marching off</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;"> Into the Valley of Death</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Charge of the Light Brigade</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 12pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">The result was predictable
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">A Decimated Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">A Shattered Generation</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">MY GENERATION!</span></u></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color: red; font-size: 16pt;">BUT WE ENDED THEIR DAMN WAR!</span></u></b></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">The Greatest Generation?</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Hell no!</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">A Pathetic Generation!</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 12pt;"> </span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">May they ever be tormented</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">By Their Own Son’s Souls</span></b></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-family:; font-size: 16pt;">Professor Francis A. Boyle</span></u><span style="font-family:; font-size: 14pt;"> <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Francis A. Boyle</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Law Building</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">504 E. Pennsylvania Ave.</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Champaign, IL 61820 USA</span></b></div>
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