[Sosfbay-discuss] "Dare to Win"

Andrea Dorey andid at cagreens.org
Tue Apr 11 18:49:05 PDT 2006


Nader got into these issues long before anyone else thought of it,  
Kerry or no Kerry--Cobb or no Cobb.  And this, in spite of the media  
freeze against him.
Andrea

On Apr 6, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:

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> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
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>>> From: Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:28:17 -0700
>>> To: Green South Bay Discussion <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Dare to Win"
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>>> At the risk of repeating myself, anyone who runs with the admonition
>>> that he will not run in any state (county, city) that a well-known
>>> major party does not have a big lead over the other major party,  
>>> does
>>> *not* "dare to win," and is costing his party its credibility.  We
>>> got the government we deserve, if we're really honest about it.
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>
>> I often hear an allegation that David Cobb ran only in
>> "safe" states, or at least said that's what he was gonna do.
>> The facts don't support that allegation, though.
>> As far as I know, David was talked out of that "strategy"
>> at the 2003 convention in DC, along with almost all of its
>> proponents at the time, and he campaigned in every
>> state where he was on the ballot.
>>
>> I've been asking the people who make that allegation
>> for a verifiable quote in a news story in a real
>> newspaper, or perhaps a video interview that wasn't
>> cut down to short phrases and reassembled for broadcast.
>> It's been a couple of years now and they
>> still haven't produced one.  Not one.  The closest they can
>> get is a dramatized opinion piece on MSNBC's Web site.
>>
>> It seems to me that's pretty close to proof by default
>> that the Cobb campaign didn't actually pursue the
>> "safe states" strategy that the corporate media
>> *projected* onto it.  It's one of those things
>> that "everybody knows" that just isn't true.
>> And the belief has done more damage to our party and
>> movement than anything since the GPUSA chicanery.
>>
>>
>> Cameron
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> David Cobb came to Stanford less than a month before Election
> Day, 2004.  He said he had just come from Pennsylvania and
> Ohio, both of which were "swing" states.
>
> Also, Cobb and the Libertarian Presidential candidate were
> suing Ohio over its results, long before Kerry ever got
> involved in the suit (assuming that he eventually did, I
> don't know.  Despite the fact that in terms of who got to
> be President, it only mattered to Kerry.
>
> Gerry
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