[Sosfbay-discuss] Green Bikers

[JamBoi]

My point is that we could foster closer ties to SVBC
http://www.svbcbikes.org/ and have some mutual support happening.

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> If you go to the SVBC meetings you will find people that like what
> we are doing and don't really mind being fellow travelers. Some
> of them (at least one I've seen) even wear Green Party T shirts to
> the meeting. They see their work as advocacy more than change,
> so they won't be running against us soon.
> 
> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >Unlike the author of that particular letter, I don't see it as a
> choice
> >of either/or.  In other words, yes we need to improve our transit
> >system, and yes we need to improve our cycling system.  The cycling
> >part costs a mere pittance compared to the money spent on autos and
> >gets a very large 'bang for the buck'.  I still think about how in
> the
> >Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition we were fighting for the state and
> >county folks just to fullfill what they'd committed to (required by
> law
> >actually) to build up the cycling path beside 85 and how the
> squirreled
> >out of it as unfortunately happens so frequently.  Damn we would
> have
> >done well to turn to the Green Party to get some political muscle
> >behind it.  Still could.  The cycling community and SVBC could be
> >another source of Green Party recruits, especially if we can
> actually
> >get some changes effected.
> >
> >A Million Votes for Peace,
> >
> >Drew
> >
> >--- Bob Alavi <baalavi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hi All, This was [not bilke commute friendly ] in Chronicle of Aug
> 5:
> >>   
> >>  " 
> >>  TED LOEWENBERG  San Francisco 
> >>  
> >>---------------------------------
> >>    Bicycle commuting is a dead horse 
> >>  Editor -- Your frequent advocacy for bicycle commuting has made
> me
> >>rethink the idea. An experienced rider can probably maintain 20 mph
> >>for a reasonable distance in bike clothing. A commuter, dressed for
> >>work, would be hard pressed, especially in traffic and with crowded
> >>bike lanes.   When I rode 8 miles to my dental office on a good
> bike
> >>path, on a warm day, it usually required about 25 minutes of
> riding,
> >>and 30 minutes of drip dry, as there was no shower available.
> >>Schlepping a change of clothes back and forth is not a viable
> >>solution.   For most people, this is ridiculous, and to keep
> >>suggesting such a method as reasonable is to continue beating a
> very
> >>dead horse. Get real. Society requires subsidized transit for all
> in
> >>the Bay Area.   "
> >>   
> >>  I guess the "5 letters" were in response to this.  Since about
> the
> >>beginning of the year, I have been commuting with a bicycle.  I
> think
> >>it has been tremendously helpful in my case.  My commute is about
> 15
> >>miles, one way.  But some of the items noted in the letter as
> >>problems of commuting with a bicyle, seem reasonable to me.  I just
> >>didn't like the tone of that letter.  To be specific, I think 20
> MPH
> >>for a bike is way too fast in most city streets.  I feel I'd be
> going
> >>dangerously fast when I go over 12-15 MPH.  But that may be my
> >>problem.  Oh yes, sweating is a problem, but if I ride Light Rail
> for
> >>part of that commute, I hardly break a sweat.  Proper clothing is
> >>completely a different area by itself.
> >>   
> >>  We as a society have invested over 100 years to develop
> "automobile
> >>traffic friendly" system and roads.  If we invest a fraction of
> that
> >>into a "bicyle friendly" system, we -- that's all of us, will do a
> >>lot better.
> >>   
> >>  ba
> >>   
> >>  
> >>Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org> wrote:
> >>  Gerry, Tian, Cameron, Drew, Dana and other Green bikers - OR
> BIKERS
> >>TO 
> >>BE, There are five "Letters to the Editor," in today's (Aug 12) SF 
> >>Chronicle, under "A happy gaggle of bike commuters," that you might
> >>be 
> >>interested in. Either get it on line or pick up a Chronicle today.
> >>The 
> >>letters are on the "Opinion" page, Section B, Page 4.
> >>    
> >>
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
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JamBoi
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