[Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Re: [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain why they bar Greens from debates

JamBoi jamboi at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 19 07:07:59 PDT 2006



--- Julia Willebrand <julia.willebrand at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Julia Willebrand <julia.willebrand at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain why they
> bar	Greens
>  from debates
> To: <usgp-media at lists.gp-us.org>
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:56:58 -0400
> 
> Re: "Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that "John"
> interviewed the Green candidate "because she stood a a chance
> (mistake: it is
> a "he," Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi"
> (mistake: the
> incumbent is Feinstein)."
> 
> The mistake is that the comment more likely refers to Green
> congressional
> candidate Krissy Keefer who is running against Nancy Pelosi. Krissy
> is a
> very public performer/celebrity in SF and I think she is the only
> candidate
> running against Pelosi.
> Julia
>  
> On 10/19/06 3:24 AM, "civillib at cwnet.com" <civillib at cwnet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for this...I guess the Chronicle felt a little heat.
> > 
> > Just a side note, but I'm not sure who wrote - but it appears to be
> someone
> > from the Chron and might explain how the know very little about
> Greens
> > surprisingly - the message below that starts with ""Hello Larry..."
> but it
> > is very much in error.
> > 
> > First, the email refers to a "Green (Matt) Gonzalez who "made the
> runoff."
> > Played down just a bit. Matt entered the race very late, was
> outspent 10-1,
> > the GOP and Dems sent big guns (from Clinton to Feinstein) in to
> back
> > Newsom, and yet Newsom won by just a couple of percentage points. A
> little
> > better than just making the runoff.
> > 
> > Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that "John"
> interviewed
> > the Gree candidate "because she stood a a chance (mistake: it is a
> "he,"
> > Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi" (mistake: the
> > incumbent is Feinstein).
> > 
> > Yikes, makes me wonder if the Chronicle has any idea of what's up.
> As a
> > former mainstream reporter for big dailies, let me say there was a
> reason
> > reporters tried to stay far away from editorial board types.
> > 
> > Cres 
> > 
> > 
> > At 10:19 PM 10/18/2006 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote:
> >> (Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded to me by
> >> Scott Tucker.  Note that SF Chronicle editor John
> >> Diaz, in providing these explanations, writes
> >> "Feel free to forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> >> else who inquires." -- Scott)
> >> 
> >> SF Chronicle and candidates:
> >> 
> >> Hello Larry (and Bob),
> >> 
> >> Here is the explanation from John Diaz, our
> >> editorial page editor, who made the decision to
> >> exclude all four third party candidates from the
> >> debate, for the reasons expressed below. Let me
> >> add that in local races, the editorial board
> >> always includes Green candidates along with Dems
> >> and Repubicans because in the Bay Area, they make
> >> a strong showing and actually have a chance of
> >> winning (witness the last mayor's race where a
> >> Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green - Gonzalez, made the
> >> runoff. In the race for US Senate, John
> >> interviewed the Green candidate because she stood
> >> a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but of getting
> >> as many votes statewide as the Republican.
> > 
> >> Here are John's thoughts:
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Diaz, John
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:20 AM
> >> To: Zacchino, Narda
> >> Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hello Narda: Here is my thinking. Feel free to
> >> forward to Larry or Bob or anyone else who
> >> inquires. It really is the perpetual question we
> >> face in the media: Whether to provide "equal"
> >> coverage to minor party candidates and thus
> >> dilute the resources & attention we apply to the
> >> major party candidates. Neither Forrest Hill nor
> >> any of the minor-party candidates for secretary
> >> of state has shown any sign of becoming a factor
> >> in the race. I have been meeting, and will
> >> continue to meet, with Green Party candidates for
> >> various offices, but on a live Webcast, our time
> >> is inherently limited.
> >> 
> >> FYI, here's the statement I'm putting out for any
> >> media inquiries ...
> >> 
> >> There are six certified candidates for secretary
> >> of state. Two of them - Republican incumbent
> >> Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra Bowen - have a
> >> plausible chance of winning. All indications are
> >> that this is an extremely close race and the two
> >> major-party candidates have two distinctly
> >> different visions about the role of secretary of
> >> state. This is their first - and only scheduled -
> >> debate of the campaign. So the question comes
> >> down to whether Californians would be better
> >> served by a more focused and extensive comparison
> >> of the two major-party candidates - one of whom
> >> will be secretary of state for the next four
> >> years - or a forum that also included the Green,
> >> Libertarian, American Independent and Peace and
> >> Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is that
> >> Californians need this chance to directly compare
> >> Bowen and McPherson.
> >> 
> >> -John
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Zacchino, Narda
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:12 AM
> >> To: Diaz, John
> >> Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> This is the chair of the communications
> >> department at usc
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Larry Gross [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:00 AM
> >> To: Robert Scheer
> >> Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Bob,
> >> what's this all about? What was Narda think about
> >> this exclusionary, anti-democratic decision by
> >> the Chronicle? Who decided to do this anyway, and
> >> why? Larry
> >> 
> >> 
> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >> Larry Gross
> >> Professor and Director
> >> School of Communication
> >> Annenberg School
> >> University of Southern California
> >> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> >> [213] 740-3770
> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> To: info at voteforrest.org
> >>> Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> >>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02 -0700
> >>> From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >>> Reply-to: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> PLEASE FORWARD
> >>> 
> >>> Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF Debates
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Forrest has called a press conference for
> >> tomorrow 
> >> (Weds.) at 1 pm to
> >>> protect his exclusion from the San Francisco
> >> Chronicle's 
> >> debate.
> >>> 
> >>> We need your support to let the media know that
> >> it is no 
> >> longer
> >>> accepted to discriminate against third party
> >> candidates.
> >>> 
> >>> If you live in the Bay Area please come down to
> >> KPIX-TV, 
> >> 855 Battery
> >>> St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and help us make
> >> some noise. 
> >> We will have
> >> 
> >>> signs, but feel free to bring your own.
> >>> 
> >>> See press release below for details.
> >>> 
> >>> URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> >>> Tuesday October 17, 2006
> >>> Contact: Cres Vellucci, press secretary,
> >> 916.996-9170
> >>> civillib at cwnet.com
> >>> 
> >>> ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> >>> 
> >>> Chronicle called undemocratic by candidate
> >>> excluded from Secretary of State debate;
> >> Pickets
> >>> expected at campaign forum Wednesday
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party Secretary of State
> >> candidate 
> >> Dr. Forrest
> >>> Hill charged today that the San Francisco
> >> Chronicle may 
> >> have excluded
> >>> him from a televised debate on Wednesday either
> >> because 
> >> the paper
> >>> "does not believe in democracy (or) because I
> >> am the only 
> >> openly gay
> >>> candidate running for statewide office."
> >>> 
> >>> Hill has called a news conference - and a
> >> picket of the 
> >> debate -
> >>> WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery St., at 1
> >> p.m., shortly 
> >> before the
> >>> debate is due to begin.
> >>> 
> >>> The debate will feature incumbent Republican
> >> Bruce 
> >> McPherson and
> >>> Democrat Debra Bowen, but the Chronicle
> >> excluded Hill, 
> >> who has a
> >>> doctorate from the Massachusetts Institute of
> >> Technology 
> >> and is a
> >>> former campaign advisor to Ralph Nader.
> >>> 
> >>> In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill said he
> >> found it 
> >> "simply
> >>> irresponsible for a powerful news outlet like
> >> the 
> >> Chronicle to limit
> >>> voter choices by promoting only two points of
> >> view...in a 
> >> city where
> >>> Greens often out poll Republicans.
> >>> 
> >>> "The Chronicle has an opportunity to take the
> >> high road 
> >> by opening up
> >>> the debate to candidates running outside the
> >> two 
> >> mainstream parties.
> >>> (The Chronicle) can play an important role in
> >> rebuilding 
> >> confidence in
> >> our Democratic system by allowing me to take part
> >> in 
> >> Wednesday's
> >> Secretary of State debate," said Hill.
> >>> -30-
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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