[Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Re: McKinney on possible Green run
Andrea Dorey
andid at cagreens.org
Fri Jun 29 13:52:16 PDT 2007
I agree, Tian. And we need a good national candidate to stir things
up. Politicians are too complacent these days post-Nader.
Andrea
On Jun 26, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> Don't forget, the minute she announces she becomes subject
> to a whole bunch of reporting requirements. October is a good
> time frame for her to announce. After that getting on the various
> ballots starts to get harder if she doesn't.
>
> At this point she is still the only potential candidate that came
> and looked at us. That's worth something!
>
> Tian
>
> JamBoi wrote:
>
>> I'm totally with you sister. I wish *anyone* would
>> show that capacity. The Congressional Black Caucus
>> has really been the only elected voice for
>> progressive issues in the last few years. No one else
>> seems to have the courage to join them.
>>
>> The latest on McKinney (in the past day or so) is
>> still some mixed reports that on the one hand some
>> Greens who have spoken to her say she's got to take
>> care of some unspecified issues before she can make an
>> announcement but say she's intending to and on the
>> other hand the Media Committee just got another report
>> that said "According to a message from nothing has
>> been decided and it is totally inappropriate to make
>> such an
>> announcement about my schedule when I don't even
>> know what my schedule is yet." " So I'm not happy
>> about what I see as an extended tease.
>>
>> Green is Growth!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>> --- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Possibly. If so, that's a shame. I would like to
>>> see good women
>>> running, especially black women who seem to have the
>>> backbone to
>>> stand up alone and vision to see what's going on to
>>> the down-in-the-
>>> trenches real citizens. I wish white women and men
>>> would show that
>>> capacity.
>>> A.
>>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2007, at 4:16 PM, JamBoi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'll believe she's serious when she actually steps
>>>> forward. She's been teasing us for a very long
>>>>
>>>>
>>> time.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Frankly I don't think she's going to go Green. I
>>>> think her ties are too strong to the Dems
>>>>
>>>>
>>> (including
>>>
>>>
>>>> the need to retire Dem debt). Feet stuck in
>>>> concrete...
>>>>
>>>> Impeach for Peace!
>>>>
>>>> Drew
>>>>
>>>> --- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> McKinney's probably a bit wary of the Greens
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> after
>>>
>>>
>>>>> what happened to
>>>>> Nader—once a useful friend too soon becomes an
>>>>> enemy for perceived
>>>>> missteps?
>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 29, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Curt Wechsler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Cynthia's not "mulling a 'relationship'" wth the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Democratic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Party... she's challenging the Greens to get off
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> their collective
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> asses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> gplac-forum at cagreens.org;sosfbay-discuss at greens.org
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Sent: 5/29/2007 10:16:33 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> possible Green run
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Green Friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am disappointed with this statement by Cynthia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> McKinney.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frankly, I do not know why Cynthia is being so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> coy
>>>
>>>
>>>>> about this. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> can't believe that after all she has been
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> through
>>>
>>>
>>>>> she's still
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> mulling a "relationship" with the Democratic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Party.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a divorce, Cynthia!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each individual must travel her or his own path
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> and we all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> understand this. Nevertheless, at this stage of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> the game I am
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> starting to get impatient even with some people
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> inside the Greens
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> who can't quite get their brains around the fact
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> that WE ARE an
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> independent political party. I fear that some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>
>>>>> our messy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> internal disputes have something to do with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> people
>>>
>>>
>>>>> thinking of us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> as an "interest group" rather than a "political
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> party." If you are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> an "interest group" then you fight like hell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> over
>>>
>>>
>>>>> policy details
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> because influencing policy is the main thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> interests groups do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus, for example, when I was active with the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> San
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Jose Peace
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Center, we had intense debates over how to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> handle
>>>
>>>
>>>>> the Palestinian-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Israeli question. Early in the war we had
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> fights
>>>
>>>
>>>>> over the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> relationship of the San Jose Peace Center with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> International
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A.N.S.W.E.R. Those fights were painful but
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> necessary because,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> after all, agitating for peace is the main work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>
>>>>> a peace center.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, if you are a "political
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> party",
>>>
>>>
>>>>> then recruiting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> and training good candidates, contesting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> elections, framing your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> differences with the other guys, and ACTUALLY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> GOVERNING is the main
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing. If you are the Green Party it's not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> important that some
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> people like bicycles and some people like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> electric
>>>
>>>
>>>>> cars. The main
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thing is getting people into office committed to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> breaking the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> addiction to oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For six months I've been saying "It's too early
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>>> talk about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008!" Well, as we go into a summer of heavy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> politicking it is no
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> longer too early.&n bsp; I like Cynthia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> McKinney
>>>
>>>
>>>>> so I guess I need
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to write her a letter urging her to quit the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats, register
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Green, and make a commitment to the Green Party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>
>>>>> would like her
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to come back to Los Angeles and campaign for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Brezenoff in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> California's 37th Congressional District.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a divorce, Cynthia!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex Walker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Shane Que Hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
>>>>>> To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 7:22 am
>>>>>> Subject: [GPLAC-Forum] McKinney on possible
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> Green
>>>
>>>
>>>>> run in 2008;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Memorial Day speech in Georgia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: McKinney on possible Green run in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> 2008;
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Memorial Day speech in Georgia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cynthia McKinney Radio Interview Asks About
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Potential of Her Being Green Candidate for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ballot Access News
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edited by Richard Winger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May 28th, 2007
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/05/28/cynthia-mckinney-radio-
>>
>>
>> interview-asks-about-potential-of-her-being-green-candidate-for-
>>
>>
>>>>>> president/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 25, former Congresswoman Cynthia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> McKinney
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> participated in a 23-minute interview on Radio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Station WBAI. The hosts asked her about the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> possibility that she may seek the Green Party
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> presidential nomination in 2008. She said,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> “With
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the failure of the Democratic Congress to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> repeal
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> the Patriot Act, the Secret Evidence Act, the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Military Tribunals Act, I have to seriously
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> question my relationship with the Democratic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Party. The idea has not been ruled out. All the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current Democrats running for president support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the principle of potential military action
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> against Iran; none of them is for impeachment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> the President. They can’t speak for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>
>>>>> am open
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to a lot of ideas in 2008.†Thanks to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> Darcy
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Richardson for this news.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>> unconditionally" (anon)
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>> JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
>> The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
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>>
>> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
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