[Sosfbay-discuss] Lorna Salzman on Chris Hedges

[JamBoi]

I believe you're misinterpreting my stance Tian.  AND I DON'T
APPRECIATE your charge that my action has ANYTHING TO DO WITH
"XENOPHOBIA".  Give me an effing break Tian!  I ain't "telling him to
go away", I'm creating a more appropriate space where not just he and
us but everyone across this great nation of ours can talk about these
vital issues and I'm inviting him to join all interested parties there.
 Local County lists need to be controlled by Locals and not spammed by
folks from other parts of the globe.

Green means GO!

Drew

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> I think it's really wrong to tell the only Green in Ohio to go away,
> just because he doesn't attend the same meetings you do. Such
> xenophobia will only cause trouble. The public is invited to watch.
> We should restrict censoring to the worst of the spammers, which
> this person clearly isn't.
> 
> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >Mark, I have to ask where you are writing from.  I'm feeling
> >uncomfortable with someone from outside our County and outside our
> >State giving so much input to the discussion group for the Santa
> Clara
> >County, CA. Please respect our autonomy and please don't continue
> >overdo it with what might be considered outsider spam by some.  
> >Grassroots Democracy, Decentralization and all that.  Maybe once we
> >find out where you're from we could find or create a more
> appropriate
> >forum that is inclusive of only those interested in this topic. 
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Drew Johnson
> >County Council of Santa Clara County
> >
> >--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Mark Lause wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>One more is all I have time for right now....  Saying that things
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>improved
> >>    
> >>
> >>>after 2006 doesn't make what I said about the impact of 2004
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>outdated.  The
> >>    
> >>
> >>>impact of 2004 was what it was regardless of what happened
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>afterwards.  And,
> >>    
> >>
> >>>if vote totals measured the state of the party rather than voter
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>discontent,
> >>    
> >>
> >>>we'd have been in great shape in 2001.  But we weren't.
> >>>
> >>>A lot of these state organizations consist of local groups that
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>don't
> >>    
> >>
> >>>actually meet or do anything.  2004 left my entire state with only
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>one or
> >>    
> >>
> >>>two local groups functioning.  Despite the fact that this
> situation
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>really
> >>    
> >>
> >>>hadn't improved in 2006, we did run some good state campaigns. 
> Yet,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>those
> >>    
> >>
> >>>tens of thousands of votes did not leave us an organization with
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>appreciably
> >>    
> >>
> >>>more people.  It never made us better at involving and integrating
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>new
> >>    
> >>
> >>>people into the party.
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>What state is your local state? Here in Santa Clara County there
> >>might only be one or two active Green groups, but in California
> >>there are A LOT more than that.
> >>    
> >>
> 
> -- 
> Tian

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JamBoi
Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com


 
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