[Sosfbay-discuss] Lorna Salzman on Chris Hedges

[Paul & Mary Engstrom]

Greens

Stop infighting. Discourages and reduces image of what Green Party is  
all about. Criticize establishment wrongs . Promote Green cooperation  
and mutual support.

   For solidarity-- not egotistic individualism

Paul


On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:14 AM, JamBoi wrote:

> I believe you're misinterpreting my stance Tian.  AND I DON'T
> APPRECIATE your charge that my action has ANYTHING TO DO WITH
> "XENOPHOBIA".  Give me an effing break Tian!  I ain't "telling him to
> go away", I'm creating a more appropriate space where not just he and
> us but everyone across this great nation of ours can talk about these
> vital issues and I'm inviting him to join all interested parties  
> there.
>  Local County lists need to be controlled by Locals and not spammed by
> folks from other parts of the globe.
>
> Green means GO!
>
> Drew
>
> --- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's really wrong to tell the only Green in Ohio to go away,
>> just because he doesn't attend the same meetings you do. Such
>> xenophobia will only cause trouble. The public is invited to watch.
>> We should restrict censoring to the worst of the spammers, which
>> this person clearly isn't.
>>
>> JamBoi wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, I have to ask where you are writing from.  I'm feeling
>>> uncomfortable with someone from outside our County and outside our
>>> State giving so much input to the discussion group for the Santa
>> Clara
>>> County, CA. Please respect our autonomy and please don't continue
>>> overdo it with what might be considered outsider spam by some.
>>> Grassroots Democracy, Decentralization and all that.  Maybe once we
>>> find out where you're from we could find or create a more
>> appropriate
>>> forum that is inclusive of only those interested in this topic.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Drew Johnson
>>> County Council of Santa Clara County
>>>
>>> --- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark Lause wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> One more is all I have time for right now....  Saying that things
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> improved
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> after 2006 doesn't make what I said about the impact of 2004
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> outdated.  The
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> impact of 2004 was what it was regardless of what happened
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> afterwards.  And,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> if vote totals measured the state of the party rather than voter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> discontent,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> we'd have been in great shape in 2001.  But we weren't.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of these state organizations consist of local groups that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> don't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> actually meet or do anything.  2004 left my entire state with only
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> one or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> two local groups functioning.  Despite the fact that this
>> situation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> really
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hadn't improved in 2006, we did run some good state campaigns.
>> Yet,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> those
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> tens of thousands of votes did not leave us an organization with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> appreciably
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> more people.  It never made us better at involving and integrating
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> people into the party.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What state is your local state? Here in Santa Clara County there
>>>> might only be one or two active Green groups, but in California
>>>> there are A LOT more than that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Tian
>
> ___________________
>
> JamBoi
> Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer
>
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
>
>
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