[Sosfbay-discuss] Applying NVC to the situtation (Re: Ideas from Far-Flung Places

[JamBoi]

So in order for NVC to do its magic I'll specifically avoid all the
non-NVC barbs in your response and stick strictly to the Feelings and
Needs in order to try to establish an "Empathic Connection" between
us...  I'm going to capitalize the NVC vocabulary so it stands out...

Here's a URL to a Basic Feelings list: http://cnvc.org/feelings.htm
Here's a URL to a Basic Needs list: http://cnvc.org/needs.htm

So am I hearing correctly Roy that you are Feeling Annoyed and Saddened
that ML chose to leave the list and that this situation doesn't meet
your Needs for Connection with a fellow (nonGPSCC) Green?

Do I hear also Roy that you are Feeling Pissed Off that the GPSCC's
longstanding traditions, expectations and SOP and Terms of Service are
not clearly stated on our GPSCC web site and that this does not meet
your Need for Clarity for the Members of the GPSCC who run and use the
e-list?

Do I hear also Roy that you Feel Angry with me because of when I stated
my discomfort with ML's non-Member posting and he subsequently chose to
leave that did not meet your Needs for Connection with and Inclusion of
ML, a fellow (nonGPSCC) Green?

Do I hear also that you Feel Amused that I have initiated an explicit
NVC dialog and that your Need after we've already gotten involved in a
conflict and your Need for Cooperation is unmet in the present
situation?

I'll stop there with my attempt to SERVE YOU by giving the Gift of the
Guess for your Feelings and Needs.

Frankly Roy I Feel Angry about the rest of your e-mail doesn't meet my
Need for Privacy over your private evaluations of a private
conversation between you, me and your friend.  I would have much
preferred that you simply give me a call if you have concerns.   IMO it
is entirely out of line for you to have posted that publically without
first having approached me and talked it over with me to see if you
could get some satisfaction in your concern.

  I WILL say again however that regarding the follow up on the video
recording, last time I checked your arm is not broken and you could
have followed up by contacting me at any time.  As you said you are
well aware of my e-mail.  It is not my sole responsibility to carry out
a relationship between the two of us.  You have your part in it too. 
So let's get this thing together and move forward, shall we???

Impeach for Peace!

Drew



--- Duende <egroups at duendevision.com> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2007, at 8:34 AM, JamBoi wrote:
> 
> > Roy, sure I've got a lot of nerve.  No one has ever accused me of
> > lacking nerve. ;-)  Here hermano, I've had an idea.  You and I have
> > thoroughly expressed ourselves in the traditional way thus far and
> as
> > we can see it has gotten us not very far.  You and I are both  
> > beginners
> > in the art of NonViolent Communication, so what do you say we try
> to
> > apply that and see how much better that works?  I'm thinking it
> could
> > not only be a good healing thing to bring you and I back together
> but
> > could also demonstrate the amazing power of NVC.  What do ya say?
> > Shall we give it a go?
> >
> > So I'll start by doing what Ursula Duncan calls a "gift of a guess"
> to
> > try to empathically connect with you...
> >
> > So Roy, are you Feeling pissed off because your need for
> consideration
> > is unmet in this situation?
> 
> No. But I am annoyed and a bit saddened that a person left this list 
> because he was censured by a member that iin my opinion (and existing
>  
> or lack of existing guidelines)had no right to censur them. The sad  
> part is that other than myself and Tian no one else has stated their 
> 
> being uncomfortable with the whole transaction. I'm also a bit  
> ammused that a person who was throwing around explicatives keeps  
> alluding to NVC as a means to heal a situation when it seems to suit 
> them.
> 
> I have to be honest though Drew. Since our meeting at DeAnza with  
> Darci Cohen I haven't really been comfortable with you. Darci was  
> taking her time to try to help us navigate the corridors of what's  
> public domain images and the like and you were baraging her with your
> Green propoganda though it was quite obvious she didn't want to hear 
> it. Quite truthfully I felt embarrassed by your actions since I'm the
> one who introduced you. There is a time for tabling and this wasn't  
> the time. Then when I got back on the list after a prolonged absence 
> almost every other post is Jamboi. Jamboi here..Jamboi there and I'm 
> 
> wondering who in the f*ck is this guy? Between the aforementioned and
>  
> the lack of follow through concerning my recording the political  
> event at the Adobe House you were not on my warm and fuzzy list for  
> sure though I was admiring your energy from a place of caution. Then 
> 
> seeing Mark leave the list due to your attempted censure (and in his 
> 
> case not attempted but a faite de complie at this point) it totally  
> got my goat.
> 
> Now.. that being said, it's irrelevant that it was you who had  
> censored Mark, I would have taken this stand if it were anyone else. 
> 
> Though maybe not with the same amount of mistrust.
> 
> And.. I will not accept having the issue at hand, the censor of  
> another Green Party member, derailed by slight of hand nor what  
> appears to me to be an NVC shell game.
> 
> 
> Peace
> 
> Duende
> 
> ________________________________________________________
> "If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise  
> they'll kill you."
> 
>      Oscar Wilde
> 


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JamBoi
Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com


 
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