[Sosfbay-discuss] car scrapping

[Brian Good]

   One thing to consider is that according to Michael Ruppert it takes
12% of the energy a car will consume in its lifetime to manufacture
the car.    
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Research.html

   At the least we should demand that our new eco-mobiles be built 
for easy maintenance and repair, and for a hundred-year lifetime.

  I'd like to see a conversion industry that rebuilds and converts a 
popular model (the Camry has sold over 400,000 a year since 2000) 
on an industrial scale.  

  Battery conversion might also be a practical proposition for some
used SUVs if their high fuel consumption tends to limit their range 
anyway.  The world is likely to be awash in SUVs built to take on
the desert but never driven off road, which have a great potential 
to achieve hundred-year lifetimes.  Their engines will wear out 
long before their suspensions will.

 




> From: eameece at sfo.com
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:49:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] car scrapping
> 
> It might be a great idea if they are swapping old cars for plug-in 
> electrics, etc.
> Eric M
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Doyle" <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "sosfbay discussion group" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 7:05 PM
> Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] car scrapping
> 
> 
> >I first heard of something similar in a report of a letter to the editor.
> > Originally I thought it was a little bit off the wall although it sounded
> > to me like a good idea in principle.
> >
> > Now look at what there is in other parts of the globe
> > http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=90905&sectionid=3510213
> >
> > Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:49:52 GMT
> > The German government increases the budget for its car-scrapping plan
> > with goal of turning over up to two million cars, not just 600,000.
> >
> > The government will triple the amount of money it originally set aside
> > from 1.5b to 5b euros under a program which has been welcomed in the
> > country.
> >
> > The new car purchase incentive scheme came amid signs that the German
> > economy still suffers from the contraction of international demand, as
> > new figures show the country's exports continued to fall for the fifth
> > month in a row.
> >
> > The 2,500 euro bonus is for car owners who scrap cars at least nine
> > years old and buy new ones. It was set up earlier this year in order to
> > boost the country's auto industry as part of a wider 50b euro economic
> > stimulus.
> >
> > The number of applications for car-scrapping in Germany increased by the
> > end of last week to 1.2 million. The government meanwhile announced that
> > the program would be expanded, but has not yet clarified the details.
> >
> > The German car industry, like those in many other countries, has been
> > attempting to deal with a decrease in sales during the economic recession.
> >
> > Scrapping schemes are now in operation in Austria, Portugal, Italy,
> > Spain and France, while the UK is reportedly looking into a similar
> > program.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

_________________________________________________________________
Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. 
http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss_lists.cagreens.org/attachments/20090413/2dc3dbf1/attachment.html>