[GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Prop 14 (Top Two) forum in Santa Clara on Tuesday, March 23 AM

Jim Stauffer jims at greens.org
Sun Mar 21 19:42:24 PDT 2010


As I said in the original message, more info is coming soon.

Minor parties don't do worse or better in parliamentary systems compared to a 
presidential system. Those are government structures. What makes a difference 
is the electoral system.

And I believe it is perfectly obvious that will be bad for minor parties to be 
prevented from running candidates in the general election.

Jim



On 3/21/2010 5:51 PM, spencerg wrote:
>   Why is this obviously bad for third parties?
>
>
> What evidence is available on this?
>
>
> The only evidence I see is the comparison with parliamentary systems
> that go to a second round between the two candidates getting the most
> votes if no candidate gets a majority. Don't third parties do better in
> such systems than in ours?
>
>
> Logic is a very poor tool for evaluating anything unless there is a
> substantial empirical basis to show that the premises are valid.
> Otherwise, seemingly great sounding but fallacious premises lead to
> erroneous conclusions. That's why I ask for evidence.
>
>
> Spencer Graves
>
>
> On 3/21/2010 5:28 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote:
>>
>>
>> The Santa Clara, California, Chamber of Commerce will hold a forum on
>> Proposition 14 on Tuesday, March 23, at 8:00 a.m.
>>
>> Speaking in favor of Proposition 14 will be Brian Brennan of the Silicon
>> Valley Leadership Group.
>>
>> Speaking against will be Christina Tobin, founder of Free & Equal.
>>
>> The event is at 1850 Warburton Avenue, Santa Clara.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Prop 14 is a myopic dissaster that will prevent all minor parties from
>> participating in the General Election.
>>
>> At the March 2010 General Assembly, the Green Party easily reached
>> consensus on opposing Proposition 14. If adopted, all candidates for
>> partisan office would be required to run in a single, combined Primary
>> Election rather than each party having it’s own Primary. Voters may
>> vote for any party’s candidate, and only the two highest voted
>> candidates would proceed to the General Election. No longer would each
>> party be represented in the General. In fact, the two candidates in
>> the General could be from the same party.
>>
>> They'll be more info about organizing against Prop 14 coming out shortly.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
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