[GPSCC-chat] Civil liberties? What civil liberties?

[John Thielking]

So this means a continuation of the SOS, namely the rounding up of undocumented immigrants, only this time they can be detained indefinitely.  This is not any more acceptable than the previous interpretation.  So now the military may soon be patrolling the streets checking to see if you have a passport or birth certificate and if you don't (especially if you are brown) detaining you indefinitely or until they can sort out your citizenship status. I have heard that the error rate of ICE detaining lawfull residents is as high as 5%. We will have to see how this all shakes out.  I'm still sticking with the following slogan: "Since the pasage of NDAA 2012, the lesser of two evils argument has flown out the window and hit its head on the pavement.  Vote the two party system of the Green Party and the Peace and Fredom Party and nevermind the unintended consequences." 


From: Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Civil liberties? What civil liberties?


The basis of my comments are these.

Renumbered... Section 1021 (e) reads...
(e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section
shall be construed to affect existing law or
authorities relating to the detention of
United States citizens, lawful resident aliens
of the United States, or any other persons
who are captured or arrested in the United
States.

Renumbered... Section 1022 (b) reads...
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS
AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement
to detain a person in military custody
under this section does not extend to citizens
of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement
to detain a person in military custody
under this section does not extend to a lawful
resident alien of the United States on the
basis of conduct taking place within the
United States, except to the extent permitted
by the Constitution of the United
States.

-- and --
(2) COVERED PERSONS.—The requirement in
paragraph (1)shall apply to any person
whose detention is authorized under section
1021 who is determined—

Greenwald fails to consider that American Citizens and Resident Aliens are exempted from the provisions of 1021 and chooses instead to quibble about the meaning of the term "requirement'... sort of like whatthe meaning of "is" is. 





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