[GPSCC-chat] I Now Have 2 Community Pages On Facebook

Caroline Yacoub carolineyacoub at att.net
Tue Jan 3 21:40:27 PST 2012


So Spencer, you don't really believe that the amendment, as it now stands, would 
hurt small business? I don't have much expertise in the business world, but I 
can't read it and feel sure about that.
Caroline




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From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Tue, January 3, 2012 9:33:32 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] I Now Have 2 Community Pages On Facebook

Hi, John, et al.:  


       It is in the best short term interest of the venal 1% to claim that 
repealing corporate personhood would hurt small business.  I don't know if that 
is what is happening, but I would expect that Citizens United and similar 
organizations would be paying people to write messages on Facebook with claims 
like, ""SOPA would deprive small businesses (ie web sites) of their property 
(their domain names and access to their sites) without due process".  Big money 
in politics today is often spent (a) doing focus groups to find out what kinds 
of arguments against it resonate with people, (b) following that with sample 
surveys to pick the strongest of several likely candidates, then (c) circulating 
that message in a variety of ways, often concealing the source.  



      The concerns about SOPA and NDAA are real, but I the primary impact on 
small business I see from repeal of corporate personhood is that it would 
deprive the 1% of certain tools they now use to increase their wealth and power 
at the expense of small businesses.  



      (more on your Facebook page citing research that social mobility is lower 
in the US, where the power of corporations has grown substantially over the past 
125 years, than in much of Europe, which reportedly does not have corporate 
personhood.)  



      Spencer Graves


On 1/3/2012 8:44 AM, John Thielking wrote: 
Folks,
>
>I now have two community pages on Facebook which may be of interest to you.  
>Check them out if you like/if you have time.
>Thanks.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>John Thielking
>
>Small Businesses Are People TooA prime example of the contradictions within the 
>movement and the need to think over carefully the MTA Section 1 is the case of 
>the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). SOPA would deprive small businesses (ie web 
>sites) of their property (their domain names and access to their sites) without 
>due process (big businesses could merely petition a judge claiming violations of 
>copyright and the sites would be shut down for a minimum of 5 days before a 
>hearing could be held to present evidence). Some in the Occupy movement are busy 
>protesting this unconstitutional move by Congress, while at the same time 
>pushing for passage of MTA Section 1 which would make their claims of 
>unconstitutionality of SOPA moot. So which is it? Do you support rights for 
>small businesses or don't you?
>
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>And 
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>Peacemovies.com
>The final post for 2011: Go to www.peacemovies.com/offhollywood.html for a quick 
>peek at the possibilities of legally streaming content for "free" that is often 
>of higher quality, more original and almost always less violent than the typical 
>Hollywood fare. If you like what you just streamed, please donate generously to 
>the site that provided the content. Thanks.
>Peacemovies.com: The Off-Hollywood Pagewww.peacemovies.com
>non-violent movies, family entertainment
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