[GPSCC-chat] I Now Have 2 Community Pages On Facebook
Spencer Graves
spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
Tue Jan 3 21:48:38 PST 2012
On 1/3/2012 9:40 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> So Spencer, you don't really believe that the amendment, as it now
> stands, would hurt small business? I don't have much expertise in the
> business world, but I can't read it and feel sure about that.
I think the net impact will more likely be positive. Major
corporations today provide the money that elect the politicians, who
then spend a substantial portion of their time trying to enact verbiage
written by lobbyists for their major contributors. This would not work
if a critical mass of the electorate paid directly for serious
investigative journalism that would tell them in more detail how this
works and would make it clearer to the electorate which candidates would
actually legislate in the interest of the bottom 99%. The business
model of the commercial media is selling behavior change in their
audience to advertisers. The 1% does not what the public to know
exactly the many ways in which they get welfare, and they can retaliate
against honestly liberal media. They know they do not need to feed the
mouth that bites them.
I'd be surprised if passing that amendment would have an
immediate, dramatic effect. However, it would make it more difficult
for the 1% to buy congress and continue the current massive transfers of
wealth from the 99% to the 1%.
Spencer
> Caroline
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
> *To:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Tue, January 3, 2012 9:33:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] I Now Have 2 Community Pages On Facebook
>
> Hi, John, et al.:
>
>
> It is in the best short term interest of the venal 1% to claim
> that repealing corporate personhood would hurt small business. I
> don't know if that is what is happening, but I would expect that
> Citizens United and similar organizations would be paying people to
> write messages on Facebook with claims like, ""SOPA would deprive
> small businesses (ie web sites) of their property (their domain names
> and access to their sites) without due process". Big money in
> politics today is often spent (a) doing focus groups to find out what
> kinds of arguments against it resonate with people, (b) following that
> with sample surveys to pick the strongest of several likely
> candidates, then (c) circulating that message in a variety of ways,
> often concealing the source.
>
>
> The concerns about SOPA and NDAA are real, but I the primary
> impact on small business I see from repeal of corporate personhood is
> that it would deprive the 1% of certain tools they now use to increase
> their wealth and power at the expense of small businesses.
>
>
> (more on your Facebook page citing research that social mobility
> is lower in the US, where the power of corporations has grown
> substantially over the past 125 years, than in much of Europe, which
> reportedly does not have corporate personhood.)
>
>
> Spencer Graves
>
>
> On 1/3/2012 8:44 AM, John Thielking wrote:
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>> I now have two community pages on Facebook which may be
>> of interest to you. Check them out if you like/if you
>> have time.
>> Thanks.
>> Sincerely,
>> John Thielking
>> Small Businesses Are People Too
>> <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Small-Businesses-Are-People-Too/169333889834098>
>>
>>
>> A prime example of the contradictions within the movement
>> and the need to think over carefully the MTA Section 1 is
>> the case of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). SOPA would
>> deprive small businesses (ie web sites) of their property
>> (their domain names and access to their sites) without
>> due process (big businesses could merely petition a judge
>> claiming violations of copyright and the sites would be
>> shut down for a minimum of 5 days before a hearing could
>> be held to present evidence). Some in the Occupy movement
>> are busy protesting this unconstitutional move by
>> Congress, while at the same time pushing for passage of
>> MTA Section 1 which would make their claims of
>> unconstitutionality of SOPA moot. So which is it? Do you
>> support rights for small businesses or don't you?
>>
>> And
>>
>>
>> Peacemovies.com
>> <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Peacemoviescom/253761754669963>
>>
>>
>> The final post for 2011: Go to
>> www.peacemovies.com/offhollywood.html
>> <http://www.peacemovies.com/offhollywood.html> for a
>> quick peek at the possibilities of legally streaming
>> content for "free" that is often of higher quality, more
>> original and almost always less violent than the typical
>> Hollywood fare. If you like what you just streamed,
>> please donate generously to the site that provided the
>> content. Thanks.
>>
>> Peacemovies.com: The Off-Hollywood Page
>> <http://www.peacemovies.com/offhollywood.html>
>> www.peacemovies.com <http://www.peacemovies.com/>
>> non-violent movies, family entertainment
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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