[GPSCC-chat] IRV vs. Approval Voting

[Jim Stauffer]

Hi, Rob -

Approval Voting and IRV are similar, but IRV gives a finer granulation of 
voter preference. With AV, you check all candidates of whom you approve. You 
do the same with IRV but also get to specify your preferences among the 
candidates of whom you approve.

If you had a set of election that you could run with both AV and IRV, you'd 
probably get the same results most of the time. But in an election where the 
votes between candidates are really close, IRV will do a better job of making 
a fine distinction in voters' choices.

I would agree that AV is simpler, but I wouldn't agree that it's more effective.

That's my 2 cents.

Jim



On 6/11/2012 2:37 PM, Rob Means wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I picked up the IRV flag and started touting it about a decade ago. Today, I
> learned a bit about Approval Voting which purports to be simpler and more
> effective than IRV. Does anyone have other knowledge?
>
> Learn more here: http://www.electology.org/approval-voting
>
> --
> Rob Means
> ATRA Legislative Advisor
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>> Dear friends, colleagues, supporters, activists,
>>
>> Many thanks to all who pitched in and helped with my Congressional
>> Campaign, we learned a lot and I'm glad we did it. I hope what we did
>> will make it easier to mobilize people into a stronger political
>> force in the future.  There are plenty of campaigns, efforts that
>> need support.  I generally want to do"everything,"  but the
>> Congressional Campaign forced me to be more focused and let go of
>> trying to do"way more than I could..."   Now I'm obliged to choose
>> again where to put my time, energy, resources and that is not an easy
>> task.  I do have certain responsibilities (like fetching the signs in
>> from where they were deployed in transit corridors) and showing up in
>> court (to avoid additional jail time and hefty fines) and I did sign
>> up to be a delegate to the Continental Congress 2.0
>> (<http://www.the99declaration.org/>http://www.the99declaration.org/  )
>> taking place in Philadelphia, alongside another national gathering
>> for the Occupy Movement
>> (<http://www.occupynationalgathering.com/>http://www.occupynationalgathering.com/
>> ) during the first week of July.  I'm also committed to helping with
>> the premiere of the new 9/11 Explosive Evidence- Experts Speak Out
>> (Seehttp://www.ae911truth.org  ) in July, as well as a June 23rd
>> premiere of a documentary, A Noble Lie, Oklahmoa City 1995, about the
>> Oklahoma City Bombing on in Berkeley
>> (<http://www.bfuu.org/events>http://www.bfuu.org/events  ).
>>
>> Of course, with my three sons at home now, there are other demands
>> upon me, such as making blueberry waffles this Sunday, giving them
>> time and attention this summer. (Now that the youngest is in college,
>> it is rare to
>>    have  them all home at the same time.  I also want to visit my mom,
>> who is getting on in years.
>>
>> There are also events coming up to push for Single Payer Healthcare,
>> a local resolution to support a 28th Amendment to abolish corporate
>> personhood, the annual monetary reform conference, efforts to rein in
>> the growing police state, efforts to shut down nuclear power in
>> California, efforts to prevent an impending war with Syria and Iran.
>>
>> Today, though, I will just work on waffles, collecting yard signs
>> (I'm going to clean off the ones that I find and store them for
>> possible reuse in 2014), writing thank-you letters, catching up with
>> the unending pile of tasks at hand.  If you have one or more yard
>> signs that you would like me to pick up- please let me know (and give
>> me your address).  If you would like to accompany me on the yard sign
>> hunt, let me know (I'll be passing by Castle Rock, so an opportunity
>> for a hike is also a tempting possibility. (If you want waffles&  to
>> help with yard signs/hike - aim to be at my home at 11:30 am...)
>>
>> Carol Brouillet,cbrouillet at igc.org  <mailto:cbrouillet at igc.org>
>> 650-857-0927
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