[GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18
Spencer Graves
spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com
Thu Aug 1 21:46:44 PDT 2013
I agree (with Drew and probably everyone else) that we should not
do everything based on money. I'm essentially a full time activist right
now, because I think what I'm doing is important for the future of
humanity, and Betsy and I are able to survive on what we have.
Nevertheless, we (Spencer, Betsy and the Santa Clara Green Party) need
to watch our finances.
Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has
participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for
those events? How many new Green party members did we get? How much
money did we take in? How much did we spend? What was our net? How
much did we spend for each new member?
I very much appreciate John's very generous pledge and his
commitment to be there both days. However, unless we can anticipate
bringing in $300, we'll have to cover at least part of the cost of that
event from other sources. If we subsidize participation in SJ Gay Pride
from other sources, we should make sure the people who bring in those
other funds feel like this is a good use of the money.
Spencer
p.s. I'm guilty of poor planning for the Foreclosure Summit last
September 15. Occupy San José (OSJ) contributed roughly $120 for that
event. Caroline and Merriam collected $25 or so for the Green Party. I
should have passed the hat after the presentations but before the
discussion, but I didn't. As a result, other OSJ contributions
subsidized that event. That was a mistake. If we are going to
subsidize one event from others routinely, we need to discuss the
finances openly, as noted above.
p.p.s. Is it permissible to ask why SJ Pride needs to charge that
much? We table at other events without paying anywhere near that.
On 8/1/2013 8:11 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> I would be willing to contribute $100 at the next Green Party meeting
> if we vote to do the deluxe set up for $400. (I get paid on the 21st.)
> I think it is worth it to have a credible stage presence with a canopy
> and tables, especially if we don't have to haul that stuff ourselves.
> I can also be there to table one or both days if needed.
>
> John Thielking
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Drew <rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Drew <rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org"
> <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18
>
> I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and
> I would like to discourage that line of reasoning. Our whole purpose
> is to get the Green word out, regardless. With the victory over Prop
> 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we
> are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ
> community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception)
> so this is not like going to our base. This is outreach. Outreach is
> what we are here for. We can and will wheel and deal on cost of
> getting space to accomplish our outreach mission.
>
> Green is Rainbow!
>
> Drew
>
> On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> > At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined
> > up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours
> > before negotiating for a reduction in price.
> >
> > I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a
> > great place to be tabling.
>
>
> How much money would we likely collect?
>
>
> I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided
> we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of
> pocket expenses.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
> Spencer
>
> Green is GO!
>
> Drew
>
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> *From:* Drew <rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com>
> *To:* "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM
> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18
>
> Green Party Councilors and members,
>
> For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ
> Pride event. Sadly again this year there will not be a parade,
> though next year its likely.
>
> I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride. I believe we
> should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the
> weekend. He wants us there. He set aside a premium space for us.
> I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I
> realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs
> and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask). He
> said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything
> for $300. He said if that was still too much we should talk to
> him about additional possibilities. One way or the other I
> propose we work something out with him and participate.
> Green is GO!
>
> Drew
>
> ~*~*~*~
> Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green
> Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America
> http://greenshadowcabinet.us
> <http://greenshadowcabinet.us/about-green-shadow-cabinet-united-states>
> Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/
> Climate Voter Power Pledge:
> http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests
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