[GPSCC-chat] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse
Drew
rainbeaufriend at riseup.net
Mon Aug 19 13:23:48 PDT 2013
Just to clarify, the note from Jesse M (I don't know that person) was from
a different email list.
Luis sounds very interesting. I am enjoying reading his book "Always
Running: La Vida Loca" right now, describing how he extracted himself from
gang life and became an inspirational leader for urban youth and people of
color everywhere.
I know there is some discussion questioning how loyal he would be to the
Greens, given that he was the VP. nominee from the Justice Party last
year. The Justice Party was created by mostly disaffected former Greens
that were Naderites. There used to be a very strong two-faction rift in
the GPCA between the Feinstein faction and the
anti-Feinstein/Naderite/Cameo faction. Previously Feinstein went out of
his way to using unethical and possibly illegal tactics to trash the
Nativo Lopez (who was part of the anti-Feinstein/Naderite/Cameo) and
alienated Nativo Lopez' large Latino base to Green Party to the point
where now the GPCA is labeled racist in some circles. I don't know if
there is any direct connection between Nativo Lopez and Luis Rodriguez
beyond both being prominent Latino leaders from the LA area (where
Feinstein dominates), but it wouldn't surprise me if so. And it wouldn't
surprise me if Luis Rodriguez weren't a target of Feinstein's.
So I definitely hope we can end up in a much better place with Latinos and
expanding the Greens in that way, and I also hope L.R. is constructively
working to build the Green Party (not refactionalize it).
Verde esta vamanos!
Drew / Andreas
> I know very little about Luis from these emails. Jesse M,
> why badmouth Cheri? I thought she was fine when in San
> Jose. Badmouthing a Green is more toxic than badmouthing a
> Democrat. They have more members and can be lost in the crowd.
>
> Luis sounds like a dynamo. Who in the Greens here can put
> out some inquiries as to Luis' interest in coming up north,
> what he thinks his needs might be, and what dates seem to
> work for him? Betsy
>
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>
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> On 8/17/2013 11:23 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>> Well, Betsy, if you read the email, you know as much as I
>> do. You have the advantage of having another County Council
>> person at hand to talk about it with. We have talked about
>> reaching out to the Latino population. We are having the
>> event at Seven Trees, where, we hope, we will have a large
>> number of Latinos present. We have a Latino candidate.
>> Sounds like an opportunity to me.
>> Caroline
>>
>> *From:* Betsy Wolf-Graves <betsy237 at prodsyse.com>
>> *To:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>> *Cc:* Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>; spencerg
>> <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J.
>> Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting
>> the Cart Before the Horse
>>
>> How much would Luis require? Does he want to stay
>> overnight? What might be overhead he needs for his travel
>> expenses? Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/2013 5:15 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>> > I think that at least the County council (can't remember who
>> > all they are just now) should discuss this and see about
>> > getting a date (preferably after Sept 6) for him to come up
>> > here.
>> > Caroline
>> >
>> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> > *From:* Tian Harter <tnharter at aceweb.com
>> <mailto:tnharter at aceweb.com>>
>> > *To:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net
>> <mailto:carolineyacoub at att.net>>
>> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:26 PM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J.
>> > Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting
>> > the Cart Before the Horse
>> > I'd say call them up at the number near the bottom of the
>> > email.On 08/17/2013 04:06 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>> >> Wow! It would be terrific if we could get him up here AND,
>> >> if we have a date, and it's AFTER Sept 6, we could hand
>> >> out flyers announcing his candidacy and his appearance
>> >> here at the Seven Trees event. Woo Hoo!
>> >> Caroline
>> >>
>> >> *From:* Tian Harter mailto:tnharter at aceweb.com
>> <mailto:tnharter at aceweb.com>
>> >> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> >> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>>
>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:06 PM
>> >> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J.
>> >> Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting
>> >> the Cart Before the Horse
>> >> This guy would be glad to coordinate getting his candidate
>> >> for Governor of California to our county to speak to a
>> >> meeting and raise some awareness about his campaign. Seems
>> >> like we ought to host him or invite him to the GPSCC
>> >> meeting or something. I think he is LA bases, but willing
>> >> to come up here for us. Tian -------- Original Message
>> >> --------
>> >> Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green
>> Party
>> >> Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse
>> >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:06 -0700
>> >> From: Edy Alvarez mailto:valleycollegegreens at msn.com
>> <mailto:valleycollegegreens at msn.com>
>> >> Reply-To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group
>> >> mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
>> <mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>
>> >> To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group
>> >> mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
>> <mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>
>> >>
>> >> As many would PRESUMABLY know, the Green Party operates on
>> >> a very limited budget, and as someone who spearheaded
>> >> the Jill Stein California Campus Tour, even I had
>> >> difficulty maintaining constant contact with the
>> >> JS campaign. I would hope that Greens understand that it
>> >> is extremely difficult to hire part-time or full-time
>> >> staff for a national campaign and that maintaining
>> >> constant communication with the voluminous amounts of
>> >> inquiries that come into a campaign becomes a monumental
>> >> task. Regardless, I am asking ALL Greens around the
>> >> state to rally behind the candidacy of Luis Rodriguez in
>> >> the hopes that we can bring in hundreds of thousands of
>> >> new voters into the Green Party, especially all those tens
>> >> of thousands of Latinos that are turning eighteen
>> >> everyday. I need people to think BEYOND the normal
>> >> parameters of what it means to be a Green and run as a
>> >> Green. We need everyone to become involved! Your friend,
>> >> Edy Alvarez 818-336-2834
>> >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:23:06 -0700 From:
>> >> moorman.jesse at gmail.com <mailto:moorman.jesse at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:moorman.jesse at gmail.com
>> <mailto:moorman.jesse at gmail.com>>
>> >> To: floresrmagon at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:floresrmagon at hotmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:floresrmagon at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:floresrmagon at hotmail.com>>; gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
>> <mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>
>> >> <mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
>> <mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>> Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg]
>> >> Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorial candidiate
>> >> - Putting the Cart Before the Horse
>> >> Here's the message I sent to Jill Stein on September 11,
>> >> 2012:
>> >>
>> >> Cheri was interviewed on KPFK here in Los Angeles
>> >> tonight. She was
>> >> really, really bad. Remember Sarah Palin? Cheri was
>> >> less prepared than
>> >> Palin when McCain introduced her. Can someone give her
>> >> a crash
>> >> course on the issues and on the Green Party's platform
>> >> and values?
>> >>
>> >> I never heard Honkala interviewed again, and I never heard
>> >> about another interview, but maybe she was great the next
>> >> time. Another thing that bothered me deeply about the
>> >> Stein campaign was that I never could get a response from
>> >> anybody about anything I told them. One exception - I
>> >> volunteered something and did not hear for weeks, so I had
>> >> second thoughts and canceled the offer, and then after
>> >> about 2 months someone contacted me, not knowing that I
>> >> had canceled it.
>> >> Jesse
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>> > Tian
>> > http://tian.greens.org/
>> > Latest addition: pictures & words on a privacy rally in
>> San Francisco.
>> > There is a New Mexico flag on a Maryland quarter in my home.
>> >
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