[GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership

[John Thielking]

Spencer,

The default for the Santa Clara County Green Party Page should always be to announce the current month's meeting and current events for that month that the GP is tabling at. Consider that to be an ongoing action item request from me.  And yes, I think that Drew should lighten up on MG's initiative to start some FB pages.  Simply join the groups in question and then message the moderator with our requests to hand over admin functions. Thanks.

Sincerely,

John Thielking




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 From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com>
To: Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net>; Sandy Perry <PerrySandy at aol.com> 
Cc: Post South SF Bay discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership
 


On 8/20/2013 10:47 AM, Wes Rolley wrote:

On 8/20/2013 7:45 AM, Drew wrote on the GROW email list:
>
>So I'll say it again: these are not legit FB pages, certainly ot for our
(Santa Clara) party.  Marnie needs to hand over admin rights to the
respective councils and this exercise in unGreen centralization should
NEVER be repeated. Green is DEcentralized! Drew 
It appears that the concept of Green Party Leadership is an oxymoron.  Whenever anyone understands a need for actions, and then takes the steps to make that action possible, they are accused of being un-democratic.  
>
>My real worry is that those who live at the grassroots of the
      party become so driven by the news of the day that then never step
      back and think about what needs to be done and how to make that
      happen.   Rather than standing on the decentralization soapbox and
      castigating someone who had the foresight to take step 1, maybe
      the best approach is to say ... "Thank you for getting this
      started.  We really needed it.  Now, how do we keep it working."  
      Unless, of course, you don't think it is needed. 
>
>Drew, as worded, your comments appear more like a power grab than
      an offer to help.   It could be interpreted as saying that you
      want to take over so that you can make sure that it dies.   If you
      were to introduce a motion for the Santa Clara County council to
      the effect that: 
>- Having a local presence on facebook is an important part of our
      success and wishes to thank Marnie Glickman for getting that
      started, 
>- The County Council recognizes that importance and are wiling to
      allocate the time and energy to maintain the minimal
      administration duties.
>- The County Council will make the effort to ensure that
      interested people in Santa Clara County have the opportunity to
      participate in the group,
>- and we formally request that Admin duties be transferred to a
      person designated by the county council. 
>
>I am sure that Marnie will be more than happy to make that
      happen.   
>
>Exercising Grassroots Democracy means taking responsibility for
      action, not just leading yet another demonstration.  

      I agree with Wes:  I once heard someone say, "I'm not a member
    of any organized political party:  I'm a Democrat."  We need to
    assume good intentions on the part of all -- even when we perceive
    evidence to the contrary.  A seminal study of twentieth century
    revolutions found that the successes were all a product of
    defections, and people are more likely to defect if they are treated
    with respect (effectivedefense.org -> "violence and
    nonviolence").  Ya catch more flies with honey than vinegar ;-)  


SANDY:  Can we allocate a few minutes to discuss this issue (the
    Facebook account for the Santa Clara Greens) at our meeting this
    Thursday?  I'd be happier if someone else did it.  However, I'm
    willing to do it under the same rules I use to maintain our primary
    web page (www.cagreens.org/santaclara), where I only act when someone requests it.  The last request was in mid-July, and the page still announces our July meeting and two other July events.  That's mediocre but better than what we had before I started doing this ;-)  


      Spencer 



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