[GPSCC-chat] Should the Ampire invade Syria?

[Drew]

Well stated Brian.  We've given ourselves a pass on committing nondefensive "Wars of Aggression" which under international law and the Nuremberg Principles (used to prosecute Nazi war criminals after WWII) is a "Crime against Peace" and is MORE SERIOUS than run of the mill "War Crimes" or even "Genocide"!!!  Crimes against Peace aremost serious level of international crime!!!!  And under usurper to the presidency Bush and President Obama there is no discussion as to whether we (the Empire of Amerikkka or Ameripire or simply Ampire) should refrain from this most serious international crime.  I was happy to hear  David Cobb, Lawrence Lessig and the other speakers at the Rootstrikers Conference freely acknowledge that there is no fig leaf of democracy left in the United Corporations of Ampire

 
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> From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
>To: gerry gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Should US get involved in Syria?
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>Just as it happened in the case of Iraq, by allowing the issue to be framed as Should We or
>Shouldn't We? or as Did They Use Sarin or Not? (with our intervention assumed if they did)
>we starting the discussion having already yielded on the most important issue:  The USA has
>no legal right to wage war on countries that are not threatening us militarily
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>It is the United Nations' job to determine if humanitarian interests justify sending troops.
>The USA has no legal right to do so on its own.
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>This principle was trashed when Bush and Blair invaded Afghanistan, ostensibly in a search
>posse to capture Osama bin Laden, but soon revealing their agenda to overthrow the 
>Afghan government.  According to Noam  Chomsky, at the time of the invasion the USA had
>no evidence that Osama had done 9/11, and the mission creep to overthrow the government 
>was "totally illegal" (here's a five-minute video).
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mprzq1mA9Jk&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw&index=7
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>I don't remember any criticism of the Afghan invasion at the time, probably because the Taliban  
>government was despised around the world, but the law is supposed to protect the despised 
>as well as the respected.
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>Invasion of Syria, even for the best of reasons (yeah, right) would be illegal.  It should not even
>be discussed as an option.
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>> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 11:47:14 -0700
>> From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
>> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Should US get involved in Syria?
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>> Recent poll says 62% say no to intervention,
>> 24% say yes.
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>> "Phyllis Bennis, a fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies, says that 
>> a growing push for war in Syria should remind US citizens of the 
>> invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was was largely fueled by an uncritical 
>> press and a barrage of false information by some of the same power 
>> brokers now pushing for intervention in Syria."
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>> "Americans Overwhelmingly Say 'No' to US Military Intervention in Syria"
>> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/05/01-7
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>> Gerry
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