[GPSCC-chat] Cherries

Tian Harter tnharter at aceweb.com
Mon Apr 14 10:22:08 PDT 2014


Cherries are one of my favorite fruits. I'm bummed that there won't be 
much local fruit this year. :-(

On 04/14/2014 08:06 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>
> My impression is the actual climate situation is quite a bit worse 
> than the public is being told.  Scientists active in the field 
> complain in private that the IPCC's function is to water down the 
> findings because the reality is far beyond what politicians can admit 
> in public and remain in office.
>
> That said, we climate activists need to be very careful to always 
> speak with scientific accuracy.  Every mistake or distortion is 
> carefully recorded by the denialist campaign, and never goes away.  
> Some of the most persuasive talking points in that campaign are 
> exaggerated predictions from decades past which didn't come true.  
> Rush Limbaugh's web site has a countdown to the day and minute when Al 
> Gore said New York would be under water, Hurricane Sandy notwithstanding.
>
> There's a rich irony here.  No scientist positively attributes any 
> particular extreme weather event to global warming.  That's despite 
> the fact that we are beginning to get large events which were highly 
> improbable (p < 0.01) before the current temperature anomaly.  Climate 
> models don't predict such brief events as a single warm winter.  They 
> just say warm winters are more likely.
>
> I'm here to congratulate Wes for getting it exactly right.  May we all 
> speak as carefully and as authoritatively, citing real evidence, as he 
> does.
>
> -/Cameron/
>
>
>
>
> On 04/14/2014 07:17 AM, Wes Rolley wrote:
>> I went to a fruit growers meeting on Saturday.  Interesting topic was 
>> the fact that no one has good cherry crops in the South County this 
>> year.  Not in Morgan Hill, not in Gilroy, not even down in Hollister 
>> (San Benito County).
>>
>> Lest you think that the culprit might be colony collapse disorder in 
>> bees, or drought, the information that I was given by a respected 
>> Morgan Hill Grower is simply that it was too warm this winter... or 
>> conversely, there was not enough hours of chill (850 for many 
>> varieties) to trigger the right response in most cherry varieties.  
>> So, localvores beware, cherries will be much more expensive if they 
>> are available at all before Washington crops come in... and those 
>> will not be local.
>>
>> Why do I post this?  Because both the drought and the effect of 
>> rising temperatures on food prices are both features of climate 
>> change that the scientists have been warning us about.
>> -- 
>> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, 
>> then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/
>>
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