[GPSCC-chat] Crimea (was: Updated Part 2: Full BOS Vote Violated Brown Act? Please Vote Down Bottled Water Ban)

[Spencer Graves]

       What would Obama do if Texas were 80% Spanish Speakers and voted 
to succeed from the US and rejoin Mexico -- AND Mexico had a few 
thousand nuclear weapons and troops in Texas?


       According to Al Jazeera, 83 percent of the eligible voters cast 
ballots.  Thus, at least 79 % (0.83 * 0.95) of the Crimean population 
voted to join Russia.


       This is not a surprise, as the Ukrainian Parliament voted 3 weeks 
ago to tell their Russian-speaking minority they could not use Russian 
in government offices.  Acting
President Turchynov vetoed the measure, but the message was heard very 
clearly by Putin and the Russian speakers in the Crimea.  In fact, the 
Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine were transferred to the Ukraine from 
Russia in 1954 after having been a part of Russia for the previous 160 
years.  They had not previously been part of the Ukraine.


       This is the exact opposite of what Canada did 45 years ago: In 
1969 with a popular separatist movement in Quebec, the Canadian 
Parliament gave French co-equal status with English.  The English 
Canadians told the Quebecois they were part of Canada.


       There are several recent precedents for this:


             * In the 1990s, Bosnia and Kosovo became independent of 
Serbia after very bloody wars.


             * In 1992-3 Czechoslovakia split peacefully into the Czech 
Republic and Slovakia.


             * In 1919 plebiscites were held in Schleswig to determine 
the border between German and Denmark.  The Danish king was offered 
Schleswig and Holstein as part of the Treaty of Versailles.  Schleswig 
and Holstein had been part of Denmark in 1860 and had fought wars of 
independence in 1864-6.  To avoid a repeat of this, the Danish king 
organized these plebiscites. Northern Schleswig voted to stay with 
Denmark.  Southern Schleswig voted to stay with Germany.


       Putin moved to both protect both the Russian minority in the 
Crimea and Russian military facilities there.


       Spencer


On 3/16/2014 6:09 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> See more below. I hope this is the last e-mail about this from me for 
> awhile. We need to focus on Ukraine right now. Crimea just today voted 
> to join Russia by a 95% Yes vote.  Hopefully RT America stays on cable 
> tv even after the likely sanctions against Russian investors.
>
> John Thielking
>
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