[StrategyPlan] StrategyPlan Digest, Vol 3, Issue 18
Kendra Gonzales
earthworks_works at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 20 14:03:08 PST 2010
From: shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
To: strategyplan at cagreens.org
Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 1:40:11 PM
Subject: Re: [StrategyPlan] StrategyPlan Digest, Vol 3, Issue 18
Kendra:
Where are the responses from the Counties to go?
I address this at length in another email I just posted today...
The 1st request should read "How should the GPCA move forward in 2011/ 2012?"
2010 IS GONE, JUST ABOUT
just a typo....of course should be 2011/2012
You need to draft the request
will do!
.....Shane Que Hee, Dec 20 2010
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> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 14:22:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kendra Gonzales <earthworks_works at yahoo.com>
> To: Green Party Strategy Jan 2011 <strategyplan at cagreens.org>
> Subject: [StrategyPlan] Strategy: answers to Shane
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> Hi there,
>
> My?responses in yellow below:
>
> (from Shane) Kendra:
>
> If we intend to have a draft strategy plan for the March Budget General
>Assembly
> in the plenary packet
>
> Not my intention to have an entire draft strategy plan done by March / next
> Plenary. My intention is an introduction of the general idea and what we have
> collected from the locals?so far, and what the state has addressed?so far, and
> any combination there of.? VERY premliminary!
>
>
> , a Jan 31 deadline is reasonable since all of us (or in this case probably
> mostly you)? need to consider and digest the replies to formulate the draft
> strategic plan.---not a short process.?
>
> I agree this is not a short process and so disagree that Jan 31 is reasonable.
> Please trust me when I say that getting responses from local groups in 1
>month's
> time is just not a reality. This is ever more broad than County Polling and
>that
> took at least 3 months of needling, begging, inspiring, cojoling...over and
>over
> and over and that was a very specific request, whereas this will ignite
> (hopefully!) a whole lot of discussion and debate within the locals. Look how
> long its taking for just the few of us to agree on how to even approach this!.
>
>
>
> ?I also deliberately chose the budget deadline because the co-cos should see
> beforehand any suggested innovations that are in their areas and propose a
> budget for them.?
>
> Again, this is very preliminary....there is not enough time to?think about
> applying budget lines yet. Our working groups ARE thinking about strategy and
> budget lines right now for 2011/2012, and that is a part of the strategic
> planning process, as it always has been, right? The difference in what we are
> attempting here is?asking for direct input from the locals - which, again to
> reiterate is going to take some time.?
> ?
> The Strategic Plan is not going to always be directly tied to funding. Some of
> it is going to be about volunteerism, using free technology (like facebook),
> internal communication, what sort of direction do we generally want to be
> heading, types of campaigns, and so forth. If there is something innovative
>that
> costs money and?comes forward between budgets without any kind of budget line
> from a working group that could be applied to it, then we should have a means
>to
> address that.?Our Bylaws don't address this in full at all and this is in fact
> one of the things that should be on the Strategic Plan!.?Also, any innovations
> that are going to cost money?should have some funding action?attached. Locals
> can raise their own money too.
> ?
>
> ?I suppose the strategic plan could be slated to begin the next budget
> year---that is, 2012--but that is too long to wait in my opinion.
>
> Portions of?a Strategic Plan can be applied right away, some of?it not until
> later. Lets not think of this in terms of an end product...that doesn't
> really?work the best. I'm learning as a non-profit Board?member that usually,
> there?is?planning process like what we're attempting to do now.....an amazing
> document will be created...an "end product"....everyone looks at
> it.....debates.... maybe a final draft is adopted,? then?its filed away in a
> drawer and never looked at again.?I'm hopeful we can look at this as?ever
> evolving and constantly used.?We might not want to?attempt an official
adoption
> per se...getting to THAT point could be endless. Maybe?the way to look at this
> is?as a tool,?a resource,?options to consider....a "roadmap"..
>
> What is your specific alternative time line??
>
> All throughout 2011 and on-going.?By the Spring Plenary, there could be a
basic
> outline of what we all mostly agree on as the direction we want to head, but
>the
> details on HOW to get there?should be dynamic and allow for flexibility. .
>
> It sounds as if you intend to present the March General Assembly with a draft
> plan cold turkey---something that has much less chance of succeeding.
>
> No...just a basic introduction and outline of what are the most important
> actions that Greens are agreeing on at the local and state levels....so far.
>
>
> We need to get people in the locals and Counties thinking immediately so they
> can reply in? a substantive manner.? A month (January) should be long enough
to
> be able to answer one question.??
>
> I agree on immediacy to start this process; I would like for an email to go
out
> to County Contact no later than the end of?December.?Its really 3
> questions.?But,?these are huge questions...
> ?
> How should the GPCA move forward in 2010 / 2011?
> How should the GPCA move forward for the next 5 years?
> How should the GPCA move forward for the next 10 years?
>
> ?
> Kendra Gonzales
> www.vccool.org
> www.cagreens.org/ventura
> "All the energy stored in the Earth's reserves of coal, oil, and natural gas
> ?is matched? by the energy from 20 days of sunshine" ---Union of Concerned
> Scientists
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> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:10:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kendra Gonzales <earthworks_works at yahoo.com>
> To: Green Party Strategy Jan 2011 <strategyplan at cagreens.org>,
> coordinating committee <gpca-cc at cagreens.org>
> Cc: Bert Heuer <truekahuna at comcast.net>
> Subject: [StrategyPlan] Strategizing / Local in-put / using Wiki
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> I'm copying the CC on this email thread to address Jim's concern that the CC
is
> the body this is?authorized to conduct?Strategy Planning and that the CC needs
> to be behind this.
>
>
> We've been debating different approaches on the Strategy Plan listserve:
> strategyplan at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/strategyplan?(to subscribe)
>
> I'm hopeful we can agree to ask 3 very simple questions of the locals:
>
> How does the GPCA move forward in 2011/2012?
> How does the GPCA move forward in 5 years?
> How does the GPCA move forward in 10 years?
>
> At first we were talking about?asking specific questions for the locals to
> answer.?I now agree its better to ask very broad open ended questions like the
> ones above, BUT, "we" can answer the specific questions amongst ourselves (on
> Wiki) and combine those answers with what the locals come back with into one
> place (Wiki) as the basic outline of what will become our Strategic Plan. ?
>
> If this blended approach is agreeable, then I propose we re-draft and email?a
> very simple email to the County Contacts by the end of December, with these 3
> questions and a request to?post their responses to a virtual space for
> recordingd purposes.?(like Wiki)? with the response timeline to be throughout
> Jan, February, March...in preparation for a very preliminary?Plan outline by
>the
> Plenary.
>
>
> Bert Hauer has kindly volunteered to be our IT person for this data
> collection.?I?have responded to his
>
> questions below in yellow.
>
> To all,
>
> Two points: I volunteered to handle the wiki work and I asked for direction.
>
> I don't see that anyone else is handling this, so I will. If someone ELSE
wants
> to do the wiki thing, or if there is some wiki other than wiki.cagreens.org,
> then say so. Otherwise I am moving forward.
>
> The idea of using Wiki, or something like it, is for Locals to do their OWN
>work
> of typing in their responses. This won't happen across the board of course,
but
> its a start. We may have to do some of the documentation, like copying email
> responses into Wiki for the locals who just wont go there.
>
>
> I want to be supportive of Wiki..of course there is concern it will be shut
> down...what is the likelihood of that?.
>
>
> OK, on to the directions. I am going to ask questions of the CO-CO's on this
> list. The time right now it is 12/16/10 0645.? If you have answers or
opinions,
> please get them to me within 36 hours.
>
> I missed this deadline!. So sorry...
> I suggest that anyone else who is interested in working on this subscribe
> specifically to:
>
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/strategyplan?
>
>
> Definition:
>
> Just so we have names for stuff, I am going to call the entries in the Main
>Page
> "Categories" and each page within an category (other than the Table of
Contents
> - a.k.a. first page beneath the category) is a "topic".
>
> Example categories: "Green 2012", "Props 2010", and "IT" are all existing
> "categories" in the GPCA wiki.
>
> Example topics: within the Props 2010 article, are the "topics" Props2010/18,
> Props2010/19, etc.
>
> Please digest the above. Also, I think my names for these things suck. So if
> someone has a better set of names for use in conversations just like this one,
> then say so and we'll use them.
>
> Use each of the questions to locals (above) as a?Topic?
> ?
> ie: "How should the GPCA move forward in 2011/2012" is a Topic.
> ?
> Use each of the "questions" posted by Shane and Jim, and anything else that is
> brought forward by State level Greens as a?Topic as well?:
>
> ?
> ie: "?What are realistic voter registration goals?
>
> But then....how do we break that out into timelines..."2011/2012", "In 5
> Years"..."In 10 Years"...
>
>
> ??? Step 1:
>
> Am I creating a new category? Or am I extending the Green 2012 category?
>
> Unless I hear otherwise: I will create a new category named "Moving Forward: A
> Party Strategy" (or something hifalutin like that). Why? Because Green 2012 is
>a
> two year plan and this "strategy thing" seems to have different horizons.
>
> Does Wiki just have the 2 layers of Category and then Topic?
>
> ?
> If so, that is kind of limiting....can we create a whole new Wiki link just
for
> this?
> Or, do we want ONE Wiki for all things Greens for the entire State? Can one
>Wiki
> accomodate everything we do?
>
> ??? Step 2:
>
> Throughout all of the email threads, there have been a number of questions
> suggested. So the next decision is:
>
> (a) Do we want one big topic for the whole thing (broken into sections),
>
> OR
>
> (b) Do we want to break the discussion up into separate topics (ex: one for
>each
> of the questions posed by various co-co's)
>
> Again, depends on what Wiki allows for...
>
> Unless I hear otherwise: I will assume a separate topic for each question.
Why?
> Because I am anal-retentive that way. Also I see it as helping "people who
> contribute" to stay focused (see "direction" below). And so that "people who
> collate" have an easier time of it.
>
> Lets visit this soon unless its already done? Its probley best to all look at
> Wiki together at the same time if we can manage it. Maybe a conference call?
>
> ??? Step 3:
>
> Who do we expect to contribute? County councilpersons? State party Co-co's? CC
> members? Any CA registered Green? Any Green at all? Any person at all?
>
> YES, all.....open, so no one feels left out if they are not on a certain list
>or
> committee or council.
>
> We have to be VERY CLEAR that this request needs to go out further than just
>the
> person who gets the County Contact email.. Plus, we can post it to all of the
> working groups...Cal-Forum, etc..
>
> I will get in touch with IT and we'll see about logins and rights and such
>like.
>
> ??? Step 4:
>
> I can/will read back through all of the email and create a "question list". I
> can present the "question list" to THIS list for comment.
>
> Sounds Good!
>
> Note the "question list" is needed w/o regard to the decision in Step 2.
>
> Really Note: the "question list" could be just the one question posed by Jim.
>
> I'm not certain what this one question is any more!
>
>
> Though I agree with Kendra: if we ask one question w/o any additional
>direction,
> I fear we will receive responses that are "all over the map".
>
> The direction can come from?the 14 or so Questions that "we've" come up with
> that locals will see on Wiki. So, there is space for them to respond to our
> specifics, and space for them to come up with entirely new or different issues
> we might not be thinking about. I'm all about balancing the 2 approaches.
>
> Really Really Note: If someone else wants to do Step 4, then say so and I
won't
> spend MY time on it.
>
> ??? Step 5:
>
> Assuming I am doing the work, I want to create the wiki category and topic
> page(s) next weekend (12/18..12/19). That is when I have the time. So, if I
> don't hear anything, or if what I do hear are equivocations and ambiguity,
then
> what work I do will be subject to my mind-reading skills (and all overly-harsh
> passive-aggressive post-facto armchair quarterbacking will be met with Bert's
> Standard Two Word Response).
>
> Please get back to me ASAP; let's get this done together,
>
> Bert
>
>
> As always, I may be a day late and a dollar short....its now Monday.....wah.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kendra Gonzales wrote:
> >
> > Honestly, we are wasting too much time trying to agree on the right
>questions.?
> >Though these are? very relevent issues to raise and thank you Jim and Shane
>(and
> >others) for all of the input, its too much...eyes will glaze over....mine
>are!?
> >Jim....hold on to your hat....lets go with your approach and ask he locals
ONE
> >question:
> >? "How should the GPCA move forward in 2011/2012, in 5 years, in 10 years?"
> >? But, we MUST, MUST, MUST give direction on how the locals give us the
> >answer(s)!
> > Can we PLEASE, pretty please create a Wiki for this and try it out. If it
> >doesn't work, fine we can work on getting those answers from locals and
> >documenting them somewhere ourselves.
> >? We should be the ones to answer or give pros/cons on the issues we've been
> >bringing up and then combine that with what locals respond with from this one
> >very simple question.
> >? How about it?
> >?
> >?
> > Kendra Gonzales
> > www.vccool.org
> > www.cagreens.org/ventura
> > "All the energy stored in the Earth's reserves of coal, oil, and natural gas
> >? is matched? by the energy from 20 days of sunshine" ---Union of Concerned
> >Scientists
> >
> >
> > *From:* shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
> > *To:* strategyplan at cagreens.org
> > *Sent:* Wed, December 15, 2010 1:26:23 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [StrategyPlan] StrategyPlan Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7
> >
> > Everyone:
> >
> > Here is the latest version of my suggested letter to the
> >Counties/Locals:....Shane Que Hee, Dec 15 2010
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >-
> >
> >
> >
> > The Green Party of California needs the help of our County Councils and
> >
> > Locals in charting our way forward following the November elections.
> >
> >
> >
> > In keeping with our key value of decentralization we would like your written
> >
> > response by January 31 2011 to the following questions that we hope you can
> >
> > formulate at Locals/County/Regional meetings as appropriate:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.. Given the current recession and its detrimental effect on fundraising,
> >
> > should GPCA and its Locals and Counties adopt a "survival plan" until
>recovery
> >
> > is tangible (e.g. unemployment below 8%)? How would this affect all goals
and
> >
> > strategies?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. What are realistic voter registration goals? What attracts people to a
> >
> > small party? What caused the California Green registration decline of the
>past
> >
> > six years, can it be reversed? Was the 2010 election new registrations of
> >
> > about 1,000 too unambitious?
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. Given that we have fewer than 1% of registered voters, what are realistic
> >
> > electoral strategies for a party of our size? Do we continue attempts in
> >
> > partisan races or focus on non-partisan races?
> >
> > If there is to be focus on State-wide office, then should GPCA focus on MOST
> >"winnable seats"? What are the latter? What funding and effort split is
> >
> > desirable?
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. How do we recruit/develop electable candidates for non-partisan offices?
> >
> >
> >
> > 5. How do we recruit electable candidates for state-wide offices?
> >
> >
> >
> > 6. Does Prop 14 provide any potential to us? Should GPCA continue to be part
> >
> > of the lawsuit against Prop 14? Do we raise funds for the lawsuit?
> >
> >
> >
> > 7. Should we make a real, concerted effort to promote ranked-choice voting
> >
> > (i.e. Instant Runoff Voting and proportional representation)?
> >
> >
> >
> > 8. Should GPCA consider closer ties with the Progressive Caucus of the
> >
> > California Democratic Party? How would this work at the level of the Locals
> >
> > and Counties?
> >
> >
> >
> > 9. The GPCA's decentralized structure and consensus-seeking decision process
> >
> > is an experiment that we've carried on for 20 years. Is it working well
> >
> > enough? Is there a good balance of responsibilities between the state party
> >
> > and the county parties? Should we examine giving more authority over
internal
> >business
> >
> > to the state party? Is continuing to rely solely on volunteer labor a viable
> >
> > plan for growth?
> >
> >
> >
> > 10. What kind of representation do Counties/regions/locals want in GPCA? How
> >
> > should the current system be changed for the better?
> >
> >
> >
> > 11. What factors have created viable, stable Locals and Counties? What
>factors
> >
> > have caused Locals and Counties to deteriorate?
> >
> >
> >
> > 12. What resources do Locals and Counties need from the state party? What
> >resources does the state party need from Locals and Counties? What specific
> >services/mutual agreements do Counties/regions/locals want from GPCA? How
>should
> >the current system be changed?
> >
> >
> >
> > 13. Should in-person General Assemblies be scrapped? If yes, what should
> >replace them? Are the alternatives cost-effective?
> >
> >
> >
> > 14: Do the Counties and Locals have other concerns about our future not
>covered
> >above in the previous 13 questions? Please provide your
> >assessments/perspectives..
> >
> >
> >
> > Please send the responses to strategyplan at cagreens.org
> ><mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>.
> >
> >
> >
> > We hope to present the submitted responses and our resulting proposed GPCA
> >strategic plan for comment in the March Budget General Assembly Plenary
packet
> >for discussion "....Kendra Gonzalez, CCWG Co-Co, DEC 14 2010
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> >-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > t 12:00 PM 12/15/2010, you wrote:
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> >? >
> >? >? ? 1. Re: [gpca-cocos] StrategyPlan Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
> >? >? ? ? (Jim Stauffer)
> >? >? ? 2. Re: our approach to Strategizing (Jim Stauffer)
> >? >
> >? >
> >? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >? >
> >? > Message: 1
> >? > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:24:10 -0800
> >? > From: Jim Stauffer <jims at greens.org <mailto:jims at greens.org>>
> >? > To: GPCA Strategy Planning <strategyplan at cagreens.org
> ><mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>>
> >? > Subject: Re: [StrategyPlan] [gpca-cocos] StrategyPlan Digest, Vol 3,
> >? >? ? ? ? Issue 4
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> ><mailto:4D0834DA.1040106 at greens.org>>
> >? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >? >
> >? > I cannot state how strongly I disagree with this.
> >? >
> >? > Jim
> >? >
> >? >
> >? >
> >? >
> >? >
> >? > On 12/14/2010 7:07 AM, shane que hee wrote:
> >? > > Kendra/Jim:
> >? > >
> >? > > I agree that our request needs to be as short and simple as possible.
> >? > >
> >? > > I also think they should send their replies to this strategy E mail
> >listserve
> >? > > by the end of January.
> >? > >
> >? > > We might then do a wiki.
> >? > >
> >? > >
> >? > > All I think we need to say to the Counties/Locals by County Contacts
is:
> >? > >
> >? > > "The Green Party of California needs the help of our County Councils
and
> >? > > Locals in charting our way forward following the November elections.
> >? > >
> >? > > .In keeping with our key value of decentralization we would like your
> >written
> >? > > response by January 31 2011 to the following questions that we hope you
> >can
> >? > > formulate at Locals/County/Regional meetings as appropriate:
> >? > >
> >? > > 1. Given the current recession and its detrimental effect on
>fundraising,
> >? > > should GPCA and its Locals and Counties adopt a "survival plan" until
> >recovery
> >? > > is tangible (e.g. unemployment below 8%)? How would this affect all
>goals
> >and
> >? > > strategies?
> >? > >
> >? > > 2. What are realistic voter registration goals? What attracts people to
>a
> >? > > small party? What caused the California Green registration decline of
>the
> >past
> >? > > six years, can it be reversed? Was the 2010 election new registrations
>of
> >? > > about 1,000 too unambitious?
> >? > >
> >? > > 3. Given that we have fewer than 1% of registered voters, what are
> >realistic
> >? > > electoral strategies for a party of our size? Do we continue attempts
in
> >? > > partisan races or focus on non-partisan races?
> >? > > If there is to be focus on State-wide office, then should GPCA focus on
> >MOST
> >? > > "winnable seats"? What are the latter? What funding and effort split is
> >? > > desirable?
> >? > >
> >? > > 4. How do we recruit/develop electable candidates for non-partisan
> >offices?
> >? > >
> >? > > 5. How do we recruit electable candidates for state-wide offices?
> >? > >
> >? > > 6. Does Prop 14 provide any potential to us? Should GPCA continue to be
> >part
> >? > > of the lawsuit against Prop 14? Do we raise funds for the lawsuit?
> >? > >
> >? > > 7. Should we make a real, concerted effort to promote ranked-choice
> voting
> >? > > (i.e. Instant Runoff Voting and proportional representation)?
> >? > >
> >? > > 8. Should GPCA consider closer ties with the Progressive Caucus of the
> >? > > California Democratic Party? How would this work at the level of the
> >Locals
> >? > > and Counties?
> >? > >
> >? > > 9. The GPCA's decentralized structure and consensus-seeking decision
> >process
> >? > > is an experiment that we've carried on for 20 years. Is it working well
> >? > > enough? Is there a good balance of responsibilities between the state
> >party
> >? > > and the
> >? > > county parties? Should we examine giving more authority over internal
> >business
> >? > > to the state party? Is continuing to rely solely on volunteer labor a
> >viable
> >? > > plan for growth?
> >? > >
> >? > > 10. What kind of representation do Counties/regions/locals want in
GPCA?
> >How
> >? > > should the current system be changed for the better?
> >? > >
> >? > > 11. What factors have created viable, stable Locals and Counties? What
> >factors
> >? > > have caused Locals and Counties to deteriorate?
> >? > >
> >? > > 12. What resources do Locals and Counties need from the state party?
>What
> >? > > resources does the state party need from Locals and Counties? What
> >specific
> >? > > services/mutual agreements do Counties/regions/locals want from GPCA?
>How
> >? > > should the current system be changed?
> >? > >
> >? > > 13. Should in-person General Assemblies be scrapped? If yes, what
should
> >? > > replace them? Are the alternatives cost-effective?
> >? > >
> >? > > Please send the responses to strategyplan at cagreens.org
> ><mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>.
> >? > >
> >? > > We hope to present the submitted responses and our resulting proposed
> GPCA
> >? > > strategic plan for comment in the March Budget General Assembly Plenary
> >packet
> >? > > for discussion "....Kendra Gonzalez, GCWG Co-Co, DEC 14 2010"
> >? > >
> >? > > ....Shane Que Hee, Dec 14 2010
> >? > >
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> >? > >> 1. web tool from Jenni Woodward (Kendra Gonzales)
> >? > >> 2. our approach to Strategizing (Kendra Gonzales)
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> >? > >> Message: 1
> >? > >> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:16:43 -0800 (PST)
> >? > >> From: Kendra Gonzales <earthworks_works at yahoo.com
> ><mailto:earthworks_works at yahoo.com>>
> >? > >> To: Green Party Strategy Jan 2011 <strategyplan at cagreens.org
> ><mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>>
> >? > >> Subject: [StrategyPlan] web tool from Jenni Woodward
> >? > >> Message-ID: <601249.30492.qm at web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com
> ><mailto:601249.30492.qm at web56902.mail.re3.yahoo.com>>
> >? > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >? > >>
> >? > >> For consideration as a tool to use in our Strategy process:
> >? > >>
> >? > >> (by the way, I'm curious as to who is subscribed to this list?)
> >? > >>
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Hi Gloria,
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Thank you for the endorsement of the survey.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> FYI I copied Obama's OFA survey, made a few edits to it so it is GPCA
> >specific,
> >? > >> and put it on my CAGreens-Test site.? The revised survey for the GPCA
>has
> >been
> >? > >> available there since about 24 hours after I emailed the GPCA folks
> who's
> >? > >> addresses I have.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> I haven't checked if anyone has taken the survey.? I'll do that in the
> >next 72
> >? > >> hours, and perhaps post some interim results on the web site.? And
I'll
> >keep
> >? > >> the
> >? > >> survey "open" for anyone to take through the holidays.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Please "pass it on" that the survey is "up and running" on
>CAGreens-Test
> >also
> >? > >> very soon to be known as CAGreenIDEAS.org.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> I just yesterday registered a new domain name, CAGreenIDEAS.org.? It
> will
> >? > >> "point
> >? > >> to" the very same CAGreens-Test site which was not registered.? If all
> >goes
> >? > >> well
> >? > >> the domain registration will allow people to web search for things
like
> >this
> >? > >> survey as well as find other content on the site they o/w don't know
is
> >there.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> BTW: I think the "TRANSLATED" CAGreen, SF Greens, US Greens feature I
> >? > >> discovered
> >? > >> just a few days before the Nov. 2 election is WAY COOL! Potentially
one
> >can
> >? > >> look
> >? > >> at ANY Green web site in any of 52 languages, even though the web site
> >? > >> builder/maintainers never added "translation of web pages" to their
> >site.?
> >? > >> Check
> >? > >> it out in the "Web Links" section c/o the left hand side Main Menu.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> CAGreens-Test is reached at: www.weblearningtools.org/CAGreens-Test.
> >? > >> CAGreenIDEAS.org will be reachable at either cagreenideas.org or
> >? > >> www.cagreenideas.org .
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Jennifer Gopinathadasi Woodward
> >? > >> San Francisco
> >? > >>
> >? > >>
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> >? > >>
> >? > >> Message: 2
> >? > >> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:42:18 -0800 (PST)
> >? > >> From: Kendra Gonzales <earthworks_works at yahoo.com
> ><mailto:earthworks_works at yahoo.com>>
> >? > >> To: Green Party Strategy Jan 2011 <strategyplan at cagreens.org
> ><mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>>
> >? > >> Cc: Barry Hermanson <barry at barryhermanson.org
> ><mailto:barry at barryhermanson.org>>, Barry Hermanson
> >? > >> <barry at hermansons.com <mailto:barry at hermansons.com>>
> >? > >> Subject: [StrategyPlan] our approach to Strategizing
> >? > >> Message-ID: <181530.58966.qm at web56906.mail.re3.yahoo.com
> ><mailto:181530.58966.qm at web56906.mail.re3.yahoo.com>>
> >? > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Hello all,
> >? > >>
> >? > >> I've briefly scanned over Jim's draft to send to County
Contacts....its
> >not at
> >? > >> all disimilar to what?we've been proposing. However, I suggest we
>really
> >? > >> simplify the email,?offer just a handful of suggested topic items or
> >questions
> >? > >> for their consideration.
> >? > >>
> >? > >> The email is a bit too lengthy and people might?feel overwhelmed when
> >reading
> >? > >> it....not to say?all the content isn't important, but I've found that
> >email
> >? > >> communication warrants a short and to the point approach because its
>just
> >too
> >? > >> easy to hit "delete". As evidenced by this email, I have the same
> problem
> >? > >> myself
> >? > >> and need to really edit things down for simplicity's sake!
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Another missing component is a place to send local ideas and action
>items
> >so we
> >? > >> can record and organize them together into the "Plan".??How do we
> >document
> >? > >> everything? I have suggested Wiki....Marnie Glickman has created one
> >? > >> but?specific to her proposal for?the first part of 2011. Can we use?it
> >for the
> >? > >> larger picture stuff
> too??http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/Green_2012.?
> >? > >>
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Do we create our own Wiki, or use something else all together?
> >? > >> Jenni Woodward has also created a Greens Specific virtual space on her
> >own
> >? > >> platform:
> >? > >>
> >? > >>
> >? > >> CAGreens-Test is reached at: www.weblearningtools.org/CAGreens-Test.
> >? > >> CAGreenIDEAS.org will be reachable at either cagreenideas.org or
> >? > >> www.cagreenideas.org .
> >? > >>
> >? > >> I'll create a draft email to the counties as well, and Barry said he
>was
> >going
> >? > >> to do one. Maybe between Jim, Barry, and myself we can create a best
> >approach.
> >? > >>
> >? > >>
> >? > >> Kendra Gonzales
> >? > >>
> >? > >>
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> >? >
> >? > Message: 2
> >? > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:10:08 -0800
> >? > From: Jim Stauffer <jims at greens.org <mailto:jims at greens.org>>
> >? > To: strategyplan at cagreens.org <mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>
> >? > Subject: Re: [StrategyPlan] our approach to Strategizing
> >? > Message-ID: <4D083FA0.8080707 at greens.org
> ><mailto:4D083FA0.8080707 at greens.org>>
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> >? >
> >? > We really don't seem to be communicating. If you put out a list of 10
> issues
> >? > (each one being fairly broad) and ask for pro/con statements on each,
> you've
> >? > just used up at least half of the 4 hours being proposed for this
>exercise.
> >? > That is not a "stating point" or just a reference, it's a major task by
> >? > itself. How do you get a "local view point" if all you're asking is for
> them
> >? > to rate a set of pre-determined ideas sent to them?
> >? >
> >? > Again, I'm trying to stress the need for Locals to tell us what ideas
they
> >? > have. If they respond with some of the same ideas as in the referenced
>list
> >of
> >? > issues, then they're telling us they agree.
> >? >
> >? > If we really think it's important to get their feedback on the list of
> >issues,
> >? > let's just ask them to rate each on a scale of importance, rather than
> >asking
> >? > for pro/con narratives that will require a lot of discussion and
> >documenting.
> >? >
> >? > You repeat, "All we are asking locals to do is consider the issues we
> >raise."
> >? > I keep saying we should ask the Locals what issues they are thinking
>about.
> >? >
> >? > As to the CC collecting responses, it is their designated responsibility
>to
> >? > produce a strategy plan for the party. And they have to present it at a
>GA.
> >We
> >? > haven't discussed this part, but some team will need to organize and
> analyze
> >? > the responses. Wiki does not automatically organize responses for you.
> >Whether
> >? > by email or wiki, someone(s) will have to collect and work the data. We
>may
> >? > get 'official' response from the meeting and some individual responses.
We
> >? > need to distinguish between the two. I would like to see the official
> >? > responses go to the CC, or to this list if the CC prefers.
> >? >
> >? > As to warning the Locals that this is coming, I can only restate the
>number
> >of
> >? > years I've been doing this, and that there is a notable difference in the
> >? > response if you've had the opportunity to discuss the issue with the
>Locals
> >? > before sending them the project. But there are definitely drawbacks to
> >? > postponing this to the Summer.
> >? >
> >? > Jim
> >? >
> >? >
> >? >
> >? > On 12/13/2010 9:08 PM, Kendra Gonzales wrote:
> >? > > my responses in yellow below
> >? > >
> >? > > Kendra Gonzales
> >? > >
> >? > >
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> >? > >
> >? > >
> >? > *From:* Jim Stauffer <jims at greens.org <mailto:jims at greens.org>>
> >? > > *To:* GPCA Strategy Planning <strategyplan at cagreens.org
> ><mailto:strategyplan at cagreens.org>> *Sent:* Mon,
> >? > > December 13, 2010 7:42:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [StrategyPlan] our approach
> to
> >? > > Strategizing
> >? > >
> >? > > Kendra -
> >? > >
> >? > > Every time I raise a concern or suggest something different you say
it's
> >? > > the same as what you've proposed. It is not. Your last proposal was to
> >send
> >? > > a list of issues to the counties and ask them to write pro/con
>statements
> >? > > on each. I'm proposing the counties tell us what they think are the
> issues
> >? > > we should concentrate on in the long term. Not telling the counties
what
> >? > > issues the state party thinks we should work on and see if they agree.
> >? >
> >? > > Yes, I suggest we send a short list of issues asking for pros/cons,
>_just
> >? > > as a starting point..._just as some kind of reference or example of
what
> a
> >? > >? Strategic Plan might include - just as you suggest.
> >? > >
> >? > > The only use I see for an issues list is as an example of the kinds of
> >? > > topics we want discussed. Again, exactly my point. All we are asking
> >locals
> >? > > to do is consider the issues we raise. They may throw them right out as
> >? > > being irrelevent, though I doubt that. Of course, we also ask for their
> >? > > ideas.
> >? > >
> >? > > The message I'm proposing is not too long. It is shorter than most GA
> >? > > proposals, and it's not a complex topic. My experience has been that
> >? > > counties do respond (relatively speaking) to short, succinct projects
> like
> >? > > this. The only lengthy section of the message is the reference list of
> >? > > issues, but I assumed we would whittle that down. I agree with the
> >? > > whittling down
> >? > >
> >? > > The message asks each group to submit a summary of their discussion to
> the
> >? > > CC. I don't object to using a wiki, but I doubt its usefulness so I
>don't
> >? > > want to spend a lot of time on it.
> >? >
> >? > > So, if the CC is the recipient of all the data, then they are
>responsible
> >? > > for putting it into some sort of recorded strutcture. What do you
>propose
> >? > > that would be?. I disagree that Wiki is not useful. Also, locals can
>have
> >? > > an opportunity to post their responses and ideas themselves. If they
> >don't,
> >? > > then fine...the CC can do it for them.
> >? > >
> >? > >
> >? > > I'd like to hear comments on the two approaches being proposed:
> >? > >
> >? > > - Send a list of issues to the counties for their comment.
> >? > >
> >? > > - Ask the counties to send us a list of issues. Why not do both?. Send
>10
> >? > > "suggested" issues, ask for pros / cons and ask for THEIR ideas too.
> >That's
> >? > > the main focus of what this project - the local viewpoint. The 10 (or
>so)
> >? > > items are just suggestions.
> >? > >
> >? > > My main concern is that this project is coming to the counties with no
> >? > > forewarning. There's better participation when the project is first
> >? > > discussed at a GA. This is now going to need some active support from
>the
> >? > > CC to promote it through the Regional Reps. Or, put this off until
after
> >? > > the Spring GA.
> >? >
> >? > > I don't see the need for a warning. Its a pretty basic request and
>simply
> >? > > opening up lines of communication. We would waste the entire first
> quarter
> >? > > of 2011 waiting for the GA and then we certainly don't have all of our
> >? > > locals represented there. One of the benefits of this proposal
happening
> >? > > now and throughout Jan, Feb, March is to offer plenty of opportunity
for
> >? > > locals to receive, digest, discuss, and respond. And, time for us to do
> >? > > follow-up from those who don't respond to the email(s). I would also
>like
> >? > > to hear back from others please. The 10 suggested items and Wiki seem
to
> >be
> >? > > the only thing we disagree on. Getting close!
> >? > >
> >? > >
> >? > >
> >? > > On 12/12/2010 12:42 PM, Kendra Gonzales wrote:
> >? > >
> >? > >> Hello all,
> >? > >
> >? > >> I've briefly scanned over Jim's draft to send to County
Contacts....its
> >? > >> not at all disimilar to what we've been proposing. However, I suggest
>we
> >? > >> really simplify the email, offer just a handful of suggested topic
>items
> >? > >> or questions for their consideration.
> >? > >
> >? > >> The email is a bit too lengthy and people might feel overwhelmed when
> >? > >> reading it....not to say all the content isn't important, but I've
>found
> >? > >> that email communication warrants a short and to the point approach
> >? > >> because its just too easy to hit "delete". As evidenced by this email,
>I
> >? > >> have the same problem myself and need to really edit things down for
> >? > >> simplicity's sake!
> >? > >
> >? > >> Another missing component is a place to send local ideas and action
> >? > >> items so we can record and organize them together into the "Plan". How
> do
> >? > >> we document everything? I have suggested Wiki....Marnie Glickman has
> >? > >> created one but specific to her proposal for the first part of 2011.
>Can
> >? > >> we use it for the larger picture stuff too?
> >? > >> http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/Green_2012.
> >? > >
> >? > >> Do we create our own Wiki, or use something else all together?
> >? > >
> >? > >> Jenni Woodward has also created a Greens Specific virtual space on her
> >? > >> own platform:
> >? > >
> >? > >> CAGreens-Test is reached at: www.weblearningtools.org/CAGreens-Test.
> >? > >> CAGreenIDEAS.org will be reachable at either cagreenideas.org or
> >? > >> www.cagreenideas.org .
> >? > >
> >? > >> I'll create a draft email to the counties as well, and Barry said he
>was
> >? > >> going to do one. Maybe between Jim, Barry, and myself we can create a
> >? > >> best approach.
> >? > >
> >? > >> Kendra Gonzales
> >? > >>
> >? > >
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