[Sosfbay-discuss] "Dare to Win"

[Andrea Dorey]

Ask the candidate who proposed it, without reference to the platform.
I heard him (Cobb) propose it and I saw the confusion it caused among  
Greens.
Andrea

On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Bob Alavi wrote:

> Amen Cameron!
>
> I am much less involved in the mainstream of Greens than most of you.
>
> But the simple question inevitably crossed my mind when  
> encountering that obscure and esoteric premise of "safe state"!
>
> Which of the "Ten Key Value[s]" did it accomodate or enhance?
>
> ba
>
> "Cameron L. Spitzer" <cls at truffula.sj.ca.us> wrote:
>
> >From: Andrea Dorey
> >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:28:17 -0700
> >To: Green South Bay Discussion
> >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Dare to Win"
>
>
> >At the risk of repeating myself, anyone who runs with the admonition
> >that he will not run in any state (county, city) that a well-known
> >major party does not have a big lead over the other major party, does
> >*not* "dare to win," and is costing his party its credibility. We
> >got the government we deserve, if we're really honest about it.
> >Andrea
>
> I often hear an allegation that David Cobb ran only in
> "safe" states, or at least said that's what he was gonna do.
> The facts don't support that allegation, though.
> As far as I know, David was talked out of that "strategy"
> at the 2003 convention in DC, along with almost all of its
> proponents at the time, and he campaigned in every
> state where he was on the ballot.
>
> I've been asking the people who make that allegation
> for a verifiable quote in a news story in a real
> newspaper, or perhaps a video interview that wasn't
> cut down to short phrases and reassembled for broadcast.
> It's been a couple of years now and they
> still haven't produced one. Not one. The closest they can
> get is a dramatized opinion piece on MSNBC's Web site.
>
> It seems to me that's pretty close to proof by default
> that the Cobb campaign didn't actually pursue the
> "safe states" strategy that the corporate media
> *projected* onto it. It's one of those things
> that "everybody knows" that just isn't true.
> And the belief has done more damage to our party and
> movement than anything since the GPUSA chicanery.
>
>
> Cameron
>
>
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