[Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney

[cls at truffula.sj.ca.us]

>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com>
>To: scc <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
>Reply-To: JamBoi at Greens.org

>Greens,

>The following site includes both video and transcript:

>http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070407Y.shtml


As Sam pointed out, You Tube is pretty much browser neutral,
unlike the Microsoft-General Electric site.


Truthout, like Moveon, is a source of email spam.
Anybody can put any address on its mailing list.

Someone went through and signed up a bunch of the
GP of Cal mailman lists a while ago, adding to the
workload of the list owner/moderators.
Many of those list owners have already given up
on their own garbage queues, so guess who gets
to clean them out.

There are harrassment programs which automatically
sign the victim up to hundreds of such non-confirming
mailing lists.  Truthout and Moveon have both been
informed of this problem and refuse to move to
the industry standard of confirmed opt-in.
That makes them part of the movement by corporate media,
the ACLU, and the big telcos to destroy the public email
system.  (The ACLU thinks spamming, like money,
is "free speech.")

I won't refer anyone to either site until they
drop the "we're too important" attitude
and join the consensus governed Internet community.


Cameron





>--- Sam Rafter <gyral at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> If you're having trouble getting the video from
>> MSNBC, the good people over at
>> YouTube can help out in this particular situation:
>> 
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=NN-eGOtBGbg
>> 
>> > Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:56:16 -0000
>> > From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >From: "Kaisha Torres" <kaisha_marie at comcast.net>
>> > >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:17:51 -0700
>> > 
>> > >I agree! Scathing yet so apt. I cannot believe
>> more people are not up in arms right now.
>> > > I am sending this to everyone I know.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately, "everyone you know" will not be
>> able to play the video.
>> > The MSNBC site is rigged so that it will only send
>> the stream to certain clients.  It goes through a
>sequence of tests to lock out users of non-commercial
>> software.
>> > 
>> > The page in the URL has three Flash movies on it. 
>> The two CDW advertisements play on any browser.  The
>Olbermann video doesn't.
>> > One more example of intentional anticompetitive
>> behavior by MSFT.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Cameron