[Sosfbay-discuss] Lorna Salzman on Chris Hedges

[Duende]

I just saw this post. Amen Bro. Now if there was a list called  
"country business" maybe that could be limited to members of Santa  
Clara commenting/posting but even still open to reading.

Peace
Duende
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On Mar 2, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Tian Harter wrote:

> I think it's really wrong to tell the only Green in Ohio to go away,
> just because he doesn't attend the same meetings you do. Such
> xenophobia will only cause trouble. The public is invited to watch.
> We should restrict censoring to the worst of the spammers, which
> this person clearly isn't.
>
> JamBoi wrote:
>
>> Mark, I have to ask where you are writing from.  I'm feeling
>> uncomfortable with someone from outside our County and outside our
>> State giving so much input to the discussion group for the Santa  
>> Clara
>> County, CA. Please respect our autonomy and please don't continue
>> overdo it with what might be considered outsider spam by some.
>> Grassroots Democracy, Decentralization and all that.  Maybe once we
>> find out where you're from we could find or create a more appropriate
>> forum that is inclusive of only those interested in this topic.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Drew Johnson
>> County Council of Santa Clara County
>>
>> --- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mark Lause wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> One more is all I have time for right now....  Saying that things
>>>>
>>>>
>>> improved
>>>
>>>
>>>> after 2006 doesn't make what I said about the impact of 2004
>>>>
>>>>
>>> outdated.  The
>>>
>>>
>>>> impact of 2004 was what it was regardless of what happened
>>>>
>>>>
>>> afterwards.  And,
>>>
>>>
>>>> if vote totals measured the state of the party rather than voter
>>>>
>>>>
>>> discontent,
>>>
>>>
>>>> we'd have been in great shape in 2001.  But we weren't.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of these state organizations consist of local groups that
>>>>
>>>>
>>> don't
>>>
>>>
>>>> actually meet or do anything.  2004 left my entire state with only
>>>>
>>>>
>>> one or
>>>
>>>
>>>> two local groups functioning.  Despite the fact that this situation
>>>>
>>>>
>>> really
>>>
>>>
>>>> hadn't improved in 2006, we did run some good state campaigns.   
>>>> Yet,
>>>>
>>>>
>>> those
>>>
>>>
>>>> tens of thousands of votes did not leave us an organization with
>>>>
>>>>
>>> appreciably
>>>
>>>
>>>> more people.  It never made us better at involving and integrating
>>>>
>>>>
>>> new
>>>
>>>
>>>> people into the party.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What state is your local state? Here in Santa Clara County there
>>> might only be one or two active Green groups, but in California
>>> there are A LOT more than that.
>>>
>>>
>
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> We had an earthquake during last evening's Green Party meeting.
>
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