[Sosfbay-discuss] Ideas from Far-Flung Places

[JamBoi]

Oh and further Roy let's simply read the very purpose item you yourself
quote:

email lists
The Green Party of Santa Clara County has two subscription email  
lists. One for announcements and one for discussion of topics  
relevant to the Green Party.

ML IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE GPSCC.   As the above states these two lists
belong to the Green Party of Santa Clara County.  He's not a Member of
The Green Party which is refered to above.  If we allow non-members to
observe they are guests and do not have the 'right' to be here, and
certainly do not have the 'right' to post (at all if we chose to limit
them which we have not).

So again my very mildly in best NVC fashion letting ML know that I (as
part of the GPSCC authority, the County Council) felt uncomfortable
with his non-Member posting.  He got into a tizzy and mistook me to be
asking him to leave.  I didn't ask him to do that, but given how he
responded I'm perfectly pleased that he chose to leave voluntarily.  
That's the way it is Roy and all your ongoing attempt to blow it out of
proportion is not accomplishing anything positive.  So please just stop
and let's get on with working together to get our Media Committee
effort up and running.

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

--- Duende <egroups at duendevision.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the rouble post but there was a whole bunch that needed to 
> 
> be cut.
> 
> Drew
> 
> You're obfuscating the issue. The issue was about this list and who  
> could participate on it.
> 
> Take a look at the website  http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara/ it  
> says right there that this list is for "discussion of topics relevant
>  
> to the Green Party". That's it bubba. There's nothing about the Santa
>  
> Clara Greens only or anything close. It's all in your mind. You rant,
>  
> you rave, you capitalize letters like a screaming fool but you still 
> 
> have no substance for your position. Now, if it's really important to
>  
> you you can get this changed by proper methods but until that time it
>  
> would be nice if you quit your what's becoming a rather abusive
> tirade.
> 
> 
> email lists
> The Green Party of Santa Clara County has two subscription email  
> lists. One for announcements and one for discussion of topics  
> relevant to the Green Party.
> 
> 
> >>
> >> In the best NVC fashion you told him what you were uncomfortable
> with
> >>
> >> yes. But it was also easy to see you would be comfortable
> censoring
> >> him.
> >
> > Give me a break!
> 
> Why ? You were attempting to censure him. Period.
> 
> >
> >> However in following posts it's obvious you wwre not open to
> >> discussion concerning this and have made one absolute declaration
> >> after another about what YOU will tolerate and what YOU will stand
> >> for. You can wrap your original comment in anything you want
> however
> >>
> >> it was clear to my self and others what you meant by your
> statements.
> >>
> >> Maybe you need to work on that NVC. Marshall's coming into the
> area
> >> again.
> >
> > As you stated in person when we spoke, you came to NVC because you
> > needed it and I said the same.  Great!  NVC is great for all us
> > Irishmen!
> 
> I'm for the most part English and am a faster learner obviously.
> 
> 
> >
> > As to the video although you may not have seen it I publically
> posted
> > previously to this list that I had misplaced the e-mail of the Roy 
> 
> > that
> > had helped us with the video and that I'd wanted to get back with  
> > them.
> >  (and its not like I've been hiding so you could have contacted me
> at
> > any point)
> 
> You must have used disappearing ink. There's lots of people on this  
> list who could have hooked u up. Also, Fred hooked us up originally  
> so if you wanted me you he sure would have known. Also I brought this
>  
> up before and you didn't respond. Only now that it seems to suit you.
> 
> > So there you are!  Great!  Let's get together and work on
> > it.
> 
> What work on it? My offer was to video tape the event and you  
> supposedly were going to do something with it.
> 
> >
> > As yes, I WILL suggest that you continue to get involved!  We need
> the
> > efforts of ALL our members, especially those with the talents you
> > possess.  We're forming a Media Committee and I want you (along w/
> me
> > and Andrea and others) to be vital members!
> 
> That's a whole other kettle of fish.
> 
> >
> >> Anyway, as far as this thread I decided to not let this drop the
> way
> >> it had with a member of this list being told how and where they
> could
> >> post by someone who hadn't consulted with anyone else about doing
> so.
> >>
> >> I think this topic needs a rest. All I wanted to do was try to
> stir
> >> some other members of this list to what in my opinion was to do
> the
> >> right thing but it appears that the right thing still is rather
> >> fuzzy.
> >
> > Well the other problem Roy is that just a few days back were
> berating
> > Cameron for the way he runs this list.
> 
> I was berating the reply to field. Others also found it a nuisance.  
> Since Cameron was determined to defend the reply to field and was  
> being held up as an unquestionable authority in the affair I felt it 
> 
> fair if he was in the line of fire.
> 
> > In that case it was you
> > (unelected, unappointed) trying to tell Cameron (who's been a GPSCC
> > stalwart, creator and mod of this list from the beginning) how to
> do
> > his job!!!
> 
> I didn't know I had to be elected, never mind  appointed to request  
> an improvement to this list. It was just me, a member of this list  
> (one of the little people) who was trying to get the list to respond 
> 
> in an friendlier manner. As I told Cameron off list, of the hundreds 
> 
> of lists that I controlled for my company as an administrator, I  
> worked for the list co-administartors/members and attempted to  
> fulfill their requests when it came to list functions. They weren't  
> there to fulfill my needs.
> 
> > So please try to understand how that came across and then
> > for you to take up the banner for this nonGPSCC Member to have the
> > right to dominate and stir up shit - I don't think so.
> 
> There you go with these gross exaggerations again.  As a Green Party 
> 
> member Mark made comments concerning the effectiveness of the Green  
> Parties campaign in 2004. He also made references to his state so  
> there was no intent on his behalf to hide where he was from.
> 
> Drew.. you were wrong to try to limit his participation. You had a  
> hissy fit your self when Tian quite appropriately used the word  
> xenophobic to describe this behaviour.
> 
> I'd suggest you take some time and reflect on all that's transpired  
> here.
> 
> Peace
> 
> Duende
> 
> 


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JamBoi
Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com


 
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