[Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: How Greens helped Gore win the 2000 election

[Fred Duperrault]

On what did Nader and Scheer disagree?  I agree with most of what they 
both say.

Fred

I call Gore the former 'President in Exile' since he won the 2000 election
  before he and the Dems allowed the Republicans to steal it away from him
and more importantly from The People. Here's how we Greens helped him win.
For the next time you here some smack about Nader 2000 here's some facts.


Green is Core!

Drew Johnson
GPCA

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Subject: [G-C-F] Nader 2000 mobilization effect erased spoiler effect
From:    "Chuck Giese"
Date:    Mon, October 22, 2007 14:27
To:      "greens cal forum"
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Folks,

Over the weekend I listened to the recent
debate between Robert Scheer and Ralph Nader
on one of those cruises sponsored by The
Nation magazine.  This debate was brought to
G-C-F's attention by Lisa Taylor on Oct. 11.
(Thank you, Lisa.)  She provided this link:

 
http://www.truthdig.com/podcast/item/20071009_robert_scheer_debates_ralph_nader/

In the debate, Nader refers to a study by
Solon Simmons that investigated the effect
of Nader's presence in the race in mobilizing
voters who otherwise would not have voted.
He concludes that "Nader actually helped Gore
to do better than he would have in some cases
by mobilizing voters who were then captured
by the Gore ticket in the campaign's closing
weeks."

This means that Nader's net spoiler effect
was probably non-existent, and that Nader
probably generated a net GAIN in votes for
Gore, that Gore would not have received if
Nader had not been a candidate!  Simmons'
data suggest that not only would Gore have
lost Florida and New Hampshire by wider
margins without Nader in the race, but that
Gore might even have lost Wisconsin and New
Mexico without Nader in the race!

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In the debate with Scheer, Nader mentions
that this study by Solon Simmons can be found
at votenader.org.  Unfortunately, that link
is broken, because Simmons has moved to a new
job at a different university.  But I found
the study in MS Word format.  The Google
search result also had a "convert to HTML"
option, to read it in your browser instead
of as a Word document.  (If you read it as
HTML, however, the bar graph gets lost.)

This document is not just the Simmons article,
but a short political journal with a few
articles.  The Solon Simmons article is:
"One in Ten Thousand: Ralph Nader Takes on
the Presidency".


URL (MS Word version):

http://www.uwosh.edu/political_science/word/Wisconsin_Political_Scientist_Summer_2004.doc


URL (HTML with missing bar graph):

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:jQIR-IaszaMJ:www.uwosh.edu/political_science/word/Wisconsin_Political_Scientist_Summer_2004.doc+%22Solon+Simmons%22+Green+vote+Democrats&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us&client=mozilla

(This last URL may not last long, as the document is in Google's cache.)


Enjoy,
Chuck Giese

Fremont, Calif.
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