[Sosfbay-discuss] Request for CC response to list abuse: [was re Disagreements]

[Brian Good]

Warner wrote: 
  

I am requesting that the County Coucil review the 
ongoing 
emails by Brian where he brings personal attacks to this email list that
 have 
nothing to do with Green Party business, that involve his personal sense
 of 
injury over events that happened years ago, and after he has been 
personally requested to stop.  This is just plain disrespectful to 
everybody else on this email list.  Warner

   Warner, I found your message so baffling that I sent you a whole list of
questions trying to divine the assumptions behind it.  Unfortunately you 
ignored my questions in your response.

   9/11 is certainly not out of the sphere of Green Party business; Presidential
candidates David Cobb and Cynthia McKinney are well known 9/11 truthers, as 
well as 14th district candidate Carol Brouillet, Ralph Nader.  I know you and 
Cameron to be naysayers on this issue, but as I see the consensus of the 
monthly county meetings you are outsiders on that issue.  My impression is
that few Greens have bothered to do much research into 9/11 even while they
espouse the Cobb/McKinney/Nader line, and thus I wish to warn them about 
discrediting personages such as William Rodriguez, the 9/11 con artist; Craig 
Ranke, the 9/11 con artist; and Kevin Barrett the 9/11 lunatic, bigot, liar, and
negligent researcher.  That is Green Party business.   

   Your "personal attack" rubric might be invoked by any defense attorney to 
defend any criminal offense.  "How dare you personally attack my client by 
accusing him of murder?"  I have not personally attacked anybody.  Willie has
engaged in fraud.  Kevin has advocated violence and arson.  Carol has 
committed libel against me. 

   The events of which I am complaining are not years in the past but as recent
as last Sunday when Carol in very carefully crafted language suggested that I
am pathologically jealous, maintain delusions, and might be serving the aims of
COINTELPRO.

  I hope you are not advocating a "Star Chamber" proceeding to which rank-and-file Greens are not invited, for which no minutes will be taken, and where those accused (me) will not be permitted to speak.

  Brian



  



From: WB4D23 at aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:34:43 -0500
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for CC response to list abuse: [was re	Disagreements]









In a message dated 2/16/2010 11:04:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
snug.bug at hotmail.com writes:

   Carol, I doubt I'm alone in believing your post below 
  unworthy of you.  
Your heap of 
  irrelevancies can't disguise its failure to address any of my 
  
points.  It indulges also 
  in dark and baseless speculations about my 
motives and even my thoughts.  Given irrefutable 
  proof that William 
Rodriguez's 9/11 hero story is a lie, you respond by claiming I'm 
  
pathologically jealous and 
  advancing the principle that exposing obvious 
9/11 con artists 
  somehow discredits the truth 
  movement.  Why would 
you provide a "supportive environment" to blatant 
  frauds?  Whatever 
the easy rationalizations, cover-ups corrupt the movement and our
leadership 
  and allow liars to trample our 
  precious credibility. 

   You have been running, hiding, and 
  shrinking from our disagreements 
ever since I warned you 
  about Willie in 2006 and Barrett in 2007.  
Subsequent events only confirmed my early observations, but I'll 
  
resist the temptation to mount an "open letter" 
  soapbox about our 
conflicts, as it would ill serve our audience 
  and it would be destructive 
to 
  you.  

  One sign of progress is that you did not repeat the lying 
  charges against 
me from one of your broadsides in the past, nor 
  the lies you've allowed 
your con-artist friends 
  to circulate about me.  Do you get it now, Carol?  
Lies are quicksand.  Flailing only sinks you deeper.  When 
  you're ready, 
I'll throw you a rope. You'll find me 
  understanding, forgiving, and supportive 
when you're back on dry 
  land.

 B
  

I am requesting that the County Coucil review the ongoing 
emails by Brian where he brings personal attacks to this email list that have 
nothing to do with Green Party business, that involve his personal sense of 
injury over events that happened years ago, and after he has been 
personally requested to stop.  This is just plain disrespectful to 
everybody else on this email list.  Warner
  		 	   		  
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