[GPSCC-chat] SOPA and PROTECT IP

Spencer Graves spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
Fri Dec 9 10:25:05 PST 2011


On 12/9/2011 10:13 AM, John Thielking wrote:
> If you have any doubts about big businesses' desires to run small 
> businesses out of town, this should erase them. See below:


       I never had any doubts about that:  That's precisely why we need 
a constitutional amendment that corporations are not people (but single 
proprietors are, as are individuals who own LLCs, etc.)  Spencer
> Friends,
> Amazing!  On the eve of the House Judiciary Committee vote, the head 
> of the Motion Picture Assocation of America admitted that he's pushing 
> a censorship regime just like China's.  According to Variety, he said:
> / "When the Chinese told Google that they had to block sites or they 
> couldn't do [business] in their country, they managed to figure out 
> how to block sites."/
> *Please urge your lawmakers to oppose Internet censorship -- the vote 
> is coming up next week! * 
> <http://act.demandprogress.org/go/374?akid=1077.298162.jYxTJx&t=5>
> The Stop Online Piracy Act would require sites to censor their users' 
> posts (or shut down), let the government block your access to 
> websites, and put people in jail for uploading unlicensed content (ie, 
> cover band performances).
> The House Judiciary Committee is expected to vote NEXT WEEK.  This 
> isn't China -- it's America, where the First Amendment is supposed to 
> rule the day.
> *Please click here to ask your lawmakers to oppose a China-like 
> Internet regime in America.* 
> <http://act.demandprogress.org/go/374?akid=1077.298162.jYxTJx&t=6>
> Thanks.
> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
> *To:* John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 8, 2011 9:51 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Amendment Name/Feedback
>
>       I'm with Drew on this:  If this amendment passes, nothing will 
> change immediately.  They major corporations will still fight tooth 
> and claw to minimize the impact of the changes.  The difference is 
> that rather than them working with our current reactionary courts to 
> give them even more power over natural persons, they will be on the 
> defensive.  Even then, it could take massive amounts of money from 
> private citizens to pay for the litigation required to enforce the 
> changes.
>
>
>       You are doubtless correct about one point in this, however, 
> namely that the large corporations will eagerly use their powers to 
> try to limit the power of small businesses while not limiting the 
> large ones.  With the wording of this amendment, it will be hard for 
> them to find ways to do that, but they doubtless will try -- and the 
> commercial media (especially broadcasting) will support them at every 
> turn.
>
>
>       Best Wishes,
>       Spencer
> p.s.  A cousin is an engineer and a private pilot.  He sometimes asks, 
> "What makes an airplane fly?"  Answer:  Money.
>
>
> On 12/8/2011 9:42 PM, John Thielking wrote:
>> The only other option that I can see that won't result in a dark age 
>> (not counting the one we are already in) is to pass Section 2 and 3 
>> first and then try for section 1 about 10 years later. No delay 
>> clauses required.  Still required is a populace that won't just go 
>> back to sleep at the smell of the first victory.
>>
>> John Thielking
>> The rest of this message was deleted because the system blocked 
>> sending the message since it was over the limit of 80k.
>>
>>
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