[GPSCC-chat] Why you should vote Yes on Prop 37

[Spencer Graves]

Hi, John:  OK.  I yield.  Do you need anything from me to make this 
happen?  If yes, what?  Spencer


On 10/11/2012 9:27 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> This video is useful to show before the election because it does a 
> good job of clearing up the uncertainty about weather or not GMOs are 
> really bad for us (they are really bad for us and for farm animals). 
> In the Yes On N campaign about water fluoridation being banned in 
> Santa Cruz, which passed and became law, a lot of the debate hinged on 
> the dangers of fluoridation, not so much on the nuts and bolts of the 
> initiative that simply stated that nothing could be added to the water 
> to treat humans as opposed to treating the water.  I did spring for a 
> wi fi adapter for my laptop, but if it would be better to play the 
> video from a hard drive I can do that instead.  I called Shelby and 
> confirmed that the Peace Center has cables to run from the laptop to 
> the projector and the sound system.  Another thing that the video 
> points out is that there is a voluntary "GMO free" labeling initiative 
> afoot similar to the labels on milk saying that the milk is rBGH 
> free.  The market share of products with those labels is growing by 
> 250% per year.  As for campaigning for prop 37, handing out fliers for 
> the movie would do some of that too.  You can hand out 3 fliers per 
> minute, as opposed to spending 5 minutes or more contacting and 
> talking to each person that you manage to reach going door to door.  
> We can put the url for the movie on the flier so that people who can't 
> make the exact date and time can still watch the movie.
> John Thielking
>
> --- On *Thu, 10/11/12, Spencer Graves /<spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>/* 
> wrote:
>
>
>     From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>     Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Why you should vote Yes on Prop 37
>     To: "eden" <edenw at gal3.com>
>     Cc: "Greens" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     Date: Thursday, October 11, 2012, 7:16 PM
>
>           Thinking more about this, I'm concerned that it may not be a
>     good use of resources to schedule a showing of this video at the
>     Peace Center before the election. Specifically, I'm concerned that
>     the vast majority of the people who might come to see this would
>     already be planning to vote for prop 37.  Moreover, they time they
>     spend watching this video could be better spent having them make
>     phone calls or ringing the doorbells of their neighbors and asking
>     some appropriate question like, do they feel they should have a
>     right to know what's in the food they eat -- whatever question the
>     Prop 37 campaign says we should ask.
>
>
>           What can you tell us about what the "Yes on prop 37"
>     campaign suggests we use for talking points with neighbors, etc.?
>     If I'm not mistaken, they have enough money, they should have done
>     focus groups, etc., to make good recommendations about the sound
>     bites that are most likely to be effective.
>
>
>            Spencer
>
>
>     On 10/11/2012 6:38 PM, eden wrote:
>     > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Spencer Graves
>     > <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
>     <http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=spencer.graves@prodsyse.com>>
>     wrote:
>     >>        3.  I have not worked much with YouTube.  However, from
>     my limited
>     >> experience, I've had lots of problems with YouTube videos in
>     real time,
>     >> especially for something like this.  If you are trying to
>     download it and
>     >> play it via wi fi in real time, I would NOT expect it to go
>     smoothly.
>     >     I agree.
>     >
>     >> It
>     >> would be best to download the video to a hard drive (or maybe a
>     USB drive or
>     >> CD) and play it from there.  With a typical DSL connection, it
>     can easily
>     >> take 3 hours to download the data for a 1.5 hour video, and if
>     a user clicks
>     >> the wrong thing, it can restart from the beginning.  If you've
>     watched it,
>     >> it probably is some place on your hard drive.  However, I have
>     not done this
>     >> myself, so I don't know the details of how to do it.  I just
>     know that it
>     >> should be feasible unless there is some special copyright
>     protection in
>     >> YouTube and the operating system to prevent that.
>     >     I just attempted to download that YouTube using the
>     DownloadHelper
>     > plugin for Firefox and it started to download with no problem. That
>     > usually implies that the file is free to download. (In other
>     words, if
>     > the person who posted it didn't want it to be downloaded for
>     copyright
>     > or other reasons, the file would not normally be downloadable
>     with the
>     > plugin.)
>     >
>     >     Enjoy.
>     >
>     > --
>     > eden
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