[GPSCC-chat] Fwd: RE: Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th?
Spencer Graves
spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
Mon Sep 17 15:49:05 PDT 2012
Peninsula Direct Action (formed by members of Occupy San José and Occupy
Redwood City) will hold an event at the Redwood City City Hall at 5 PM;
see below. Spencer
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Subject: RE: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th?
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:53:54 -0700
From: iq4rent <iq4rent at hotmail.com>
To: <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>, <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
CC: <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>, <chudbabies at gmail.com>
PDA is doing a solidarity event at RWC city hall starting at 5pm. 1017
Middlefield Road, Redwood City. Please spread the word :)
I think there should be events in as many places as possible.
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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:19:17 -0700
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com
CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; iq4rent at hotmail.com; chudbabies at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th?
Occupy San José has NOT made any plans for today. We have a committee
working to organize something for Oct. 6. If you'd like to help with
that, please let me know; I can help you contact the people organizing
that. Spencer
On 9/17/2012 12:14 PM, John Thielking wrote:
My current plan is to go to City Hall at 3PM-5PM today. Anyone else
who wants to join me is welcome.
John Thielking
--- On *Sun, 9/16/12, John Thielking /<pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
<mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
<mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th?
To: "Spencer Graves" <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
<mailto:spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 7:31 PM
Does Occupy SJ have anything planned for Sept 17th? I looked on
all of their available web pages and I didn't see anything
except the Sept 15th foreclosure summit. I suppose I will
wander down to City Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to hold up my
signs about derivatives and free education.
John Thielking
--- On *Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer Graves
/<spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
<mailto:spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>/* wrote:
From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
<mailto:spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court challenge in SF on
Monday morning, September 17
To: "Gerry Gras" <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
<mailto:gerrygras at earthlink.net>
Cc: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
<mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:23 AM
Hi, Gerry, et al.:
I forwarded Gerry's email to the Occupy San José
list. Dave Kadlecek
replied that at most two of the plaintiffs hit with this
quarter-million
dollar judgment were Greens and gave links to more info. I
modified the
Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking a proposal on it
to the Occupy
San José General assembly at noon today.
Below please see Dave's comments and my reply.
Spencer
##############################
Hi, Dave, et al.:
Thanks for the corrections AND the links to further
information.
Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia article on
"California
Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the information in those
two links.
If you have time to review that article and see other
changes that you
feel should be made, please let me know. (Note, however,
that Wikipedia
requires "a neutral point of view" and solid sources for
what is stated
there.)
Next: Revise my proposal for today's General
Assembly, print,
and take them there by noon.
Best Wishes,
Spencer
On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote:
> Spencer and all,
>
> I also urge those of you who can make it to the court
hearing in San
> Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have a correction to
Spencer's email and
> a bit of elaboration.
>
> The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't by "6 Green Party
activists", but by
> six people, at least four of whom are not Greens (Richard
Winger, the
> publisher of Ballot Access News, is a Libertarian; Steve
Chessin, the
> chair of Californians for Electoral Reform, is a
Democrat; and Rodney
> Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action)
are with
> non-ballot qualified parties).
>
> As you may remember, Prop 14 brought about the "top two"
primary system,
> first implemented state-wide this year, which is why
there will be only
> two candidates on the ballot (and no write-in space) in
every race for
> U.S. Congress (both House and Senate) and the state
legislature (both
> State Senate and Assembly) this November. If you don't
like Dianne
> Feinstein and don't want to vote for her Republican
opponent, your only
> choice this November will be to abstain; you can't vote
for a third
> party candidate, because none will be on the ballot, and
you can't even
> write in "Mickey Mouse" because there won't be a write-in
space for U.S.
> Senate.
>
> The lawsuit directly challenged two specific aspects of
SB 6, the bill
> that implemented Prop 14 (which was a constitutional
amendment): one
> that said candidates from non-ballot qualified parties
couldn't have
> their party listed on the ballot, and another that said
write-in votes
> could not be counted in general elections. The judge
ruled against the
> plaintiffs in lower court, and the legislature changed
the relevant law
> (basically to put into the state Elections Code the
interpretations of
> ambiguous language the Secretary of State had made) while
appeals were
> in process.
>
> There were two sets of lawyers on the other side in the
case, one from
> the Attorney General's office, representing the Secretary
of State (the
> defendant), and the other from the Nielsen Merksamer law firm
> representing Abel Maldonado (who got it on the ballot by
extorting the
> Democrats in the legislature for his vote on the 2009
budget deal) and
> the other sponsors of Prop 14. For those who aren't
otherwise aware, the
> Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based in San Rafael, with a
major part of
> their practice representing landlords challenging local
rent control
> laws and other tenant protections; they used to represent
the state
> Republican Party when that party's apparatus was
controlled primarily by
> business interests, but when the social conservative
types (i.e., the
> ones who really are vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice and
anti-immigrant,
> as opposed to just using those issues to win votes) took
over the party
> organization, they switched law firms. It's the Nielsen
Merksamer
> lawyers who were awarded a quarter million dollars. They
didn't trust
> the state's lawyers to properly defend the ballot measure
they backed,
> but instead of going after the state for attorney's fees,
they went
> after the plaintiffs who had sued the state.
>
> For more information, see
>
"http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/"
>
> and "http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148".
>
> /Dave Kadlecek
>
>
> Spencer Graves wrote:
>
>> Hello, All:
>>
>> The Green party is asking for support against an
outrageous
>> judgment in court in San Francisco at Larkin and
McAllister next
>> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM hearing. The 6 Green
Party activists
>> who challenged Prop 14 (the top two primary system) have
been ordered
>> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys representing the top
two system.
>> Prop 14 effectively eliminates third parties from the
general
>> election, except in rare cases where a third party
candidate actually
>> gets in the top two. Other states that have this have
seen a decline
>> in membership of third parties.
>>
>> This punitive settlement may not stop here,
because the same
>> judge who assessed this punitive settlement will also
hear the
>> request request for reconsideration, even though normal
court
>> procedures require a different judge. Moreover, this
hearing was
>> moved up from October to tomorrow, Monday, September 17. The
>> attorney challenging this decision is concerned that he
may be levied
>> a similar punitive judgment for daring to challenge the
$243,500
>> settlement. For more details, see below.
>>
>> I believe this is an attack on democracy. If you
agree and can
>> make it to court in San Francisco next Monday, I
encourage you to do so.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Spencer
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay
Area Greens
>> help in SF on Monday morning, September 17
>> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700
>> From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gerrygras%40earthlink.net>>
>> To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss%40cagreens.org>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am planning on going to court Monday.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>>
>> Gerry Gras wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this is pretty serious. I hope Richard
>>> Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get
>>> plenty of help.
>>>
>>> For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one
>>> that gave us the top two primary system.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF
on Monday
>>> morning,
>>> September 17
>>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700
>>> From: Mike Feinstein <mfeinstein at feinstein.org
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfeinstein%40feinstein.org>>
>>> To: GPCA Forum <gpca-forum at cagreens.org
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gpca-forum%40cagreens.org>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Richard Winger <richardwinger at yahoo.com
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com>>
>>> Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT
>>> To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mfeinstein%40feinstein.org>
>>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on
this list
>>> Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California
Green Party
>>> activists list, I would sure appreciate it. Obviously
it would be
>>> most useful sent to bay area Greens.
>>>
>>> Richard Winger
>>> 415-922-9779
>>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger
<richardwinger at yahoo.com
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com>>
wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Richard Winger <richardwinger at yahoo.com
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=richardwinger%40yahoo.com>>
>>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on
this list
>>> To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com
<http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lpsf-activists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM
>>>
>>> Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow
ruled that the
>>> six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay
$243,500 to the
>>> attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado
and other
>>> supporters of the top-two system. We asked for
reconsideration.
>>>
>>> The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have
the same judge
>>> hear the request for reconsideration, even though
according to the
>>> normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a
different judge.
>>> And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday,
September 17,
>>> at 11 a.m. Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young
attorney in Fremont,
>>> California, is afraid that this same judge is going to
impose
>>> sanctions on him for even daring to ask for
reconsideration. The
>>> attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel
the only
>>> recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as
possible, so
>>> the judge sees that we have support. Please, if you
can possibly come
>>> to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday
morning, I would
>>> really appreciate it. We can meet outside the
courthouse. Please let
>>> me know if you can come. Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Richard Winger
>>> 415-922-9779
>>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147
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